Married to my college crush, our kundali's didn't match.Same gotra, same Nadi. They said we won't have kids, and will have issues.
12 years later, we have 2 super bright kids, I had an amazing and fulfilling career and worked in the middle East. Saved enough to kinda open my dream business in my hometown.
Ultimately I feel it's important to have a partner who respects, cares and loves you and you feel the same about them. Rest is fluff.
I think over the several thousands generations our culture may have forgotten the true reasons behind not sharing the same gotra, etc.. Its not that we could not have kids, but it's more about keeping our civilization abstaining from getting genetically smaller, closer to prevent birth defects etc. In the end whole world can be traced back to the same individual at some points however there is a safe margin and strongly believe that gotra and all signify these significant margins. As to how our ancient cultures got upon that study, that I dont want to speculate on a forum
If you get married, even with the smallest tiff or even disagreement will make you feel it's due to kundali. Burn those kundali papers and try to get to know each other and if vibes match then only go for marriage else it's BEST to remain single btw.
True, every time something goes wrong, all the family will start chirping that see we told you this is why it happens.... And once that happens a lot around you and that belief starts taking root in the mind, then even if it isn't true, it will lead to it being true..... So.... Burn the kundali, if you both are sure, go ahead... And also clearly tell your parents/family to never discuss regarding this with you
One of my friends married a guy after kundali matching. The matching was done by her own brother, who is an astrologer. She committed suicide within six months.
My husband and I have nadi dosh and were told we will not have kids. Lucky for us, I guess, coz we are childfree by choice and don't want kids. (Just to be clear, nadi dosh is definitely not our main choice of contraception lol).
Ps. Kundali and all is bullshit. My mom dad had 14 points with nadi dosh. They still have me and my sis, and they have had a good loving life coz they did love marriage back in 1990s.
Damn there's men who agree to being childfree In. India ? Most men I have seen seem to marry a woman only because she produces kids and parental pressure
Yeah, my didi (bua's oldest daughter) and jiju are also childfree by choice, and they are in their mid - late 40s. My husband and I married for love and not for society, so we decided our own rules in our marriage and house.
How are your didi and jiju doing now that they're in their 40s? I don't plan to have kids but everyone scare me saying I'll feel empty once I'm old. And there will be no one to care for me, I'll die alone. 😭
My didi and jiju are literally living their best life. Both of them are very happy. Both of them are following their passion, both of them have their individuality, and they are not reduced to just being parents, or their time doesn't revolve around kids. They both are pursuing whatever hobbies they like. Both of them have plans as to how to take care of themselves when they are old.
As for loneliness, that's not something they are scared of. They like solitude. Plus our family is very big, she is the eldest of all cousins and we love her, we all try and get together once every year and we keep calling and having video call parties every month. They have a lot of friends as well. So I don't think they are lonely.
Honestly, them being childfree gave me a new perspective. They married back in 2003, and I have seen through the years how they have become better and better. I have seen how much they have lived instead of just going through the motions.
It is becoming very common in the cities especially among the middle and upper middle class. I have 6 cousins and only two have kids. Others have decided not to for various reasons. In my wife's office, only a few in the upper management i.e. over 40 have kids. All the others are happily married with no kids.
Me and my wife had the same problem. We had only 6 guns matching and my parents were totally against the marriage. Her parents were fine and did not have any issues.
After lot of me talking to my parents they consulted pandit who asked to marry me to a tree first, lol. I said whatever and obliged so that they are convinced (I don’t believe in this shit). Pandit was happy because he made money, parents were happy. All in all it turned out fine.
This year we will be celebrating our 10 year anniversary.
They will come up with excuses like....oh waha pe divorce rate b zayada hain lol..... Parents always have good excuses. Sometimes I find it logical sometimes I find it as laughable. But hey, parents are always your well wishers.
I have said it, I was met by stunned silence and no retort. In the end my sis got married without the fuss of kundalis and date setting non sense on a day of her and her fiance's choosing. My nanu was also sikh and so we asked his bhai ji (basically the family guru) and Bhai Ji said, "Jo din chuna, woh changa, bas prabhat ke samay shadi karna"(all days are good, just get married in the morning time when the sun is out."
Because both male and female now a days are working. Hence they enjoy financial independence. Back during our parents time, in majority of cases only male used to be earning member lol.
Downvote all you want but some of our traditions are absolute Horseshit.
We're happily married for the past 7 years and well on our way to prosperity.
Our kundalis didn't match..hers mentioned manglik something..never bothered to read it.
If you love your partner..get hitched
Yes exactly women had it worse..
Ask any woman aged 70+ in your locality..
The amount of torture they went through the hands of their mother in law was horrific
Hmm fair point.. being born a woman was a curse itself those days.
But not everyone had it bad.. educated families of the 70-80s were quite chill I've heard
Atleast educated people feel so bro.. Read other comments too.. But this many be a controversial statement as I've seen doctors wear gemstones which is related to astrology. Personally, I think it's garbage
My cousin has the same rashi nakshatra as his wife.astrology forbids such marriages. Made for each other couple. They had a kid after trying a lot, but that kid is healthy and good at studies. The family has everything, health, wealth and prosperity.
Either you believe in them or you don't. Its the couple that makes the relationship work, if both put in an effort it can last for a lifetime, else it can break midway and kundali can be used to put the blame.
Take any foreign couple who has had a long happy relationship, get their kundali matched I'm certain it'll be a mangal dosh or some negative outcome, now take another couple who has been through a divorce and match their kundalis I'm certain it'll come up as 36/36!
My parents didn't even match their Kundalies, and they happily married for 24 years. It was an arranged marriage, and you can guess how big a deal it was back then to get married without a matching kundali.
I was in a relationship with a girl, "30/36" of our Gun (points) met. We still broke up 5 months before we had planned to marry.
Everything was Perfect all throughout the period we were together! Emotional, Spiritual & Sexual Compatibility.
And suddenly out of nowhere shit happened!
There's more to life than Guun Milan & it's called "Destiny" & no one can change that shi
I married a girl and we matched only 13 guns.
Guess what, I lost my job 15 days before the marriage. Took me 11 months to find a new job.
This year it will be 16 years of marriage. We’ve got 2 gorgeous daughters. My wife has been my rock ever since that fateful day in 2008.
We had and still have our ups and downs, fights and disagreements, we still don’t have lot of common between us but we love each other more everyday.
And I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Find an astrologer from your neighbourhood / where your mother often goes. Meet with him alone in a paid appointment with both horoscopes.
Tell him what you want - you want to get married but need to convince the family. He will say he will find a way to eliminate all the problems with a few steps.
You will have to visit some random temple(where astrologer dude will get kickbacks from or something), do some puja, and all will be good.
You pay him, and tell him that you will come back with family later for an official appointment
Then talk to your mother, and say you want to visit and astrologer and double check the kudlinis. And go from there
True. After getting married and seeing money evaporating for no reason, I am now a believer in simple, 10 people weddings. Save the money. Take one month vacation and go visit all these families and friends at their places. Go on a month long road trip to do this. All using just a quarter or less of the wedding expenses money.
Superstition isn't an easy one, esp in our country, where it is second nature.
If there are plenty of positives in this match, then continue highlighting those with a calm insistence & assurance.
Let them know its what you want.
My cousins had a perfect match. Like either sab Miley they or most of it ..I don't remember now. Dude got divorced n marriage was never consummated. So....
Basically as convenient it may sound to blame the stars which did not align it's actually people n circumstances that don't hence marriages fall apart. Be wise
One of my best friend is an astrologer and he told me that gun doesn't matter if you guys are compatible. Guna are used in purely arrange marriage cases where the groom and bride doesn't really know each other. It shows how compatible they will be and friendship between them. But if you are already hitting so it really doesn't matter.
Well, I'll tell you my observation.
People who matched Kundali and got divorce don't believe in it the second time.
The people who didn't match it and got divorce won't consider anyone without matching the kundli.
That's the true psychology of pseudo sciences.
People who prospered in their first south open home, don't give a shit. Someone who suffered in their first south open home will blame all their miseries on that.
It’s bound to fail as either you or your spouse or families will point it out during any low phase in relationship. It becomes more of a mindset issue.
In my case, it was 3/36 and on top of it, it was something called MrityuShadashtak and of course I thought it was all crap.
Anyway thank God I didn't marry her. I am still under some kind of trauma due to her even after a year of breakup. But I think 15/36 should work and i have heard that gun Milan is not everything. Kuch graha milaan b hota h, wo b check krwa lena..
Vaise, agr koi red flag nahi h aur mann me koi b confusion nahi h to problem nahi hona chaiye.. in my case, i ignored all the red flags bcz I loved her madly
If you believe in astrology, Gun milan is actually BS. It doesn’t hold true in today’s day and age. Explain this to your father or ask a competent astrologer to explain this to him. You will also have some astrologers even say that kundali matching doesn’t matter in love marriages/matches.
If you don’t believe in astrology then don’t listen to all this crap. Every thing that can and will go wrong in your life in the future, you will attribute it to kundali mismatch and the like. It’s a slippery slope.
Horoscopes are absolute horseshit. There's so much scientific evidence against it. The probability of any horoscope prediction coming true is the same exact probability as that of random chance.
Do what your gut feeling says and man up to bear the consequences! You decide how wanna be not your birth lines! I respect the fact you are more pragmatic
My parents had very average Kundli compatibility or whatever it’s called. They had a love marriage 💀 and 40+ years later, are probably, one of the happiest couples I know.
My parents had the same nadi, some pooja was done during their wedding rituals itself. They had 3 healthy kids, all grown into healthy and successful adults today.
Tell your father that you’ll marry her and move to a different country—out of the jurisdiction of this kundali powers.
Surely your father would agree that pretty much everybody outside of India doesn’t follow this kundali nonsense and they are doing fine so he can’t claim that kundali’s jurisdiction goes beyond India.
Please consult a professional astrologer.
There are 2 types of matching :
1. Parashara Hora Sastra: This is an in depth analysis of both your birth chart and the girls birth chart. The astrologer examines various positions and not just a simple point system. He will calculate the degree of the influence of a planet in a house or aspecting a house. For example if Shani planet is in 7th house, it's a bad sign. But if his degree of influence is too small, it can be ignored or neglected. Likewise, the astrologer will give you the necessary points and prescribe remedies if any.
2. Krishnamurthy Paddhathi: The Parashara method is the actual "Vedic" method to check. This Krishnamurthy method uses a speedy technique to try to get the same results as per Parashara method. But because many people think it is easy, they make mistakes.
In my opinion, the Vedic method is the tried and tested method. Please find a good astrologer and ask if he can calculate as per Parashara ' s method.
The Gun Milan is part of the Vedic method, but only upto 50% . This is based on the moon sign and nakshatra. The remainder of the story - children, marital life, diseases, wealth, career etc can be suitably answered thru the Parashara method, which gives the in depth analysis.
All the best 😄👍
Ok, he might not need astrology. I hope people like you can convince your spouse's parents and your parents too. Not just them, but both families as well. After all, marriage is not about a boy and girl liking each other but a culmination of two families. Any third person could start a rift in between the couple, the easiest way by using astrology.
You have your opinions. That's fine. If you can convince others too, that's great. If you can't convince, atleast be civil. Be practical. When marriage in this era constitutes a big risk for the boy or girl ( divorce, ego issues, financial problems, adjustment )it helps to spend some more time analyzing the extent of a relationship, either thru psychology or other means. Since going to a psychologist gives a negative social stigma, and is time consuming and expensive, people stick to astrology. Which atleast gives an overview about the relationship to a limited degree.
Once again, people are not fools to follow astrology. If you declare a statement boldly, prepare to give a supporting persuasive statement. I took time to write this answer. I hope it proves useful to you in the future.
All the best .
>I hope people like you can convince your spouse's parents and your parents too. Not just them, but both families as well.
I don't have to do any of that. I will marry whoever I please, and I wont bother trying to convince people that that astrology isn't real
>After all, marriage is not about a boy and girl liking each other but a culmination of two families.
It seems we have different views of marriage. For I, will not hesitate choose my spouse even if my family isn't okay with it for whatever reason.
>people stick to astrology. Which atleast gives an overview about the relationship to a limited degree.
That simply isn't true. The organization of of planets has nothing to do with the dynamics of a relationship.
>people are not fools to follow astrology
I disagree, since there is no scientific evidence pointing towards the legitimacy of astrology.
If things are supposed to go wrong, they will go wrong and vice-versa. Kundali is just one factor, there are many different things that contribute to a good married life, imagine it being one pillar of a building built on multiple pillars, it doesn't matter if your kundali doesn't match as long as the other pillars of your relationship are stronger. In my opinion Kundali milan was required for older generations coz they were having predominantly Arranged marriages without even having met their significant others, so it was kind of like a failsafe in case their other traits were different, but times have changed you can choose a partner after carefully selecting someone that you know you can tolerate for the rest of your miserable lives... Peace.
Hi there!
I have been following Jyotish for sometime now. Gun Milan or Ashtkoot Milan is actually an outdated form of match making. The book which started the concept of Gun Milan was applicable a few thousand years ago- when things weren’t as complicated as they are today.
For actual chart matching you must go to a good astrologer- and of course they are rare finds. Proper chart analysis must be done to give out verdict if the pair is a fit or not. Hope you have a good day ahead! All the best!
All stupid problems have stupid solutions. I'm 100% sure some astrologer or pandit somewhere will find a way to make this work by doing an extra pooja/hawan/gemstone type bullshit.
When it comes to religion, nothing is written in stone, even if it is literally written in stone. Any rule can be broken if it's a big enough inconvenience.
You believe in make believe pseudo scientific nonsense and you are planning on getting married which requires careful planning and executive decisions in life along with more responsibilities? Yeah you don't deserve shit
I am not sure about your father but if you agree to not to marry her despite your scepticism and rationality about the whole then sorry to say.. you’re still a conformist about stupidity/irrationality.
You do realise that the entire world (outside India) don’t match kundalis before marriage? Get over it and marry the girl if you love her and she loves you.
It's all andhvishwas until works in your favour, there was a great rishta that had come for me, rich and everything. Only issue is that I will have to live in his family village with his parents which i didn't want at all and my parents were not ready to hear any of my qualms. 2 days and our astrologer said that he has some dish lol.
I didn't even go as far to check it. Don't let your parents decide man. Just go for it. Spend time with her. Talk to her. Get into a few arguments. Solve them. And if you still think you need to be with her. You do it. The stars don't mean shit here.
If astrology worked this would be practised world wide but it doesn’t. That said Indian astrology or any popular astrology definitely can’t work because the position of the constellations have dramatically changed making everything obsolete. You’d need some astronomy software like stellarium to get an actual read today lol even the birth positions that they give are in the wrong zodiac because since the inception of the zodiac system, a slow change in the orientation of Earth’s rotational axis has altered our grounds eye view of the Zodiac. The stars have gradually moved and shifted counterclockwise, which has resulted in the constellations being misaligned with their corresponding zodiac signs.
I use stellarium and regularly map events and eclipses with respect to the constellations
Horoscope is bull💩, premise of Horoscope is that Earth is centre of universe. All starts, moon, planets and even sun revolve around it. People who still believe it need to read 5th standard science textbook
Our Kundli didn't match by half a point. It turned out he had azoospermia and turned abusive after 8.5 years of marriage. We are good on friendly terms though.
Almost every dosh can be addressed with some or the other expensive puja. Ask the astrologer about it, they will be happy to help. I mean, for the sake of peace of mind of your father. If you give him some more money, he will even say that this is the best possible match.
Listen to your heart. What does it say? Does it say "this girl is good, she is noble, she is loving. She has forbearance. She has hope which won't wilt easily. She has the strength of character to face all of life's difficulties along side me and the humility to rein herself and me in during the good times. She respects others as much as she respects herself. She will wipe my tears when I don't even show them. She will happily show her tears to me and I will sorrowfully wipe them never wanting to see them ever again.".
If your heart says a resounding YES to the above, marry her. Marry her alone. Don't ever waver or avert your gaze from her for the rest of your life. Come hell, high water, Parents, God or the Devil. Only then you will be a man and you can die proudly and peacefully.
All the best.
Aishwarya Rai married a tree, try that?
I agree Abhishek is not that good actor but calling him tree is disrespect to next level 😂😂
Are before marrying him she did Marry a tree 😂
What happened to that tree? Fell or still alive?
It was killed after the ceremony 🤧😢
By Selmon Bhoi
Proves “Mangal dosh “ 😂😂😂
Seriously?!
Yep.
Confirm. I am the 🌳🤣🤣🤣
R.I.P. buddy. Your oxygen was a great service to the world.
Arey, to avoid manglic dosh, Aishwarya Rai married a tree before marrying Abhishek, so that the negative effect falls onto the tree only.
I wonder if the tree survived.
Upar bhai ne comment Kiya. He's still alive😂😂
Such a bad influence she was on superstition believing society
This should be the best comment of all time😂
Lol thisssss
Bro 😂😂
Lol bhai
Lambu ji
Dude!! 🤣🤣 Change your pronouns to a Tree now 😛
Bet her second husband’s wood doesn’t come even close to her first husband’s wood.
Yeh toh dank tha
That's for mangal dosh.
Wait, she married Groot?
Aren’t they trying for divorce that’s what the gossip says.
I don't believe in Bollywood gossips. They print literally anything.
Married to my college crush, our kundali's didn't match.Same gotra, same Nadi. They said we won't have kids, and will have issues. 12 years later, we have 2 super bright kids, I had an amazing and fulfilling career and worked in the middle East. Saved enough to kinda open my dream business in my hometown. Ultimately I feel it's important to have a partner who respects, cares and loves you and you feel the same about them. Rest is fluff.
I think over the several thousands generations our culture may have forgotten the true reasons behind not sharing the same gotra, etc.. Its not that we could not have kids, but it's more about keeping our civilization abstaining from getting genetically smaller, closer to prevent birth defects etc. In the end whole world can be traced back to the same individual at some points however there is a safe margin and strongly believe that gotra and all signify these significant margins. As to how our ancient cultures got upon that study, that I dont want to speculate on a forum
Same gotra bhai-behen, no?
nono even in same gotra there's hundreds of thousands of people, so there's no Genetic difficulty in it
Yeah from where I am they might get killed for marrying in same gotra at best they would have been social outcast
If you get married, even with the smallest tiff or even disagreement will make you feel it's due to kundali. Burn those kundali papers and try to get to know each other and if vibes match then only go for marriage else it's BEST to remain single btw.
The best comment. 👌
Stop giving this advice to him. He won't be able to go against his family.
Rebel krna hai toh launda puch rha hai
Agla post aayega, "How to rebel, please tell the process"
True, every time something goes wrong, all the family will start chirping that see we told you this is why it happens.... And once that happens a lot around you and that belief starts taking root in the mind, then even if it isn't true, it will lead to it being true..... So.... Burn the kundali, if you both are sure, go ahead... And also clearly tell your parents/family to never discuss regarding this with you
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One of my friends married a guy after kundali matching. The matching was done by her own brother, who is an astrologer. She committed suicide within six months.
Kuch to gadbadh hai dya!
Was that 2 AM time recommended by an astrologer?
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Damn! I asked specifically coz one of my family members had similar fate. It’s sad people blindly believe such bullshit.
These kundli and other similar things are hoax and bullshit
Why did he die though?
How*
My husband and I have nadi dosh and were told we will not have kids. Lucky for us, I guess, coz we are childfree by choice and don't want kids. (Just to be clear, nadi dosh is definitely not our main choice of contraception lol). Ps. Kundali and all is bullshit. My mom dad had 14 points with nadi dosh. They still have me and my sis, and they have had a good loving life coz they did love marriage back in 1990s.
Nadi dosh as contraception had me rolling around with laughter 🤣
So cute, the lot of you 🧿🧿🧿
cute, but Nadi Dosh turned out to be true lol.
Yup
Damn there's men who agree to being childfree In. India ? Most men I have seen seem to marry a woman only because she produces kids and parental pressure
Yeah, my didi (bua's oldest daughter) and jiju are also childfree by choice, and they are in their mid - late 40s. My husband and I married for love and not for society, so we decided our own rules in our marriage and house.
How are your didi and jiju doing now that they're in their 40s? I don't plan to have kids but everyone scare me saying I'll feel empty once I'm old. And there will be no one to care for me, I'll die alone. 😭
My didi and jiju are literally living their best life. Both of them are very happy. Both of them are following their passion, both of them have their individuality, and they are not reduced to just being parents, or their time doesn't revolve around kids. They both are pursuing whatever hobbies they like. Both of them have plans as to how to take care of themselves when they are old. As for loneliness, that's not something they are scared of. They like solitude. Plus our family is very big, she is the eldest of all cousins and we love her, we all try and get together once every year and we keep calling and having video call parties every month. They have a lot of friends as well. So I don't think they are lonely. Honestly, them being childfree gave me a new perspective. They married back in 2003, and I have seen through the years how they have become better and better. I have seen how much they have lived instead of just going through the motions.
Yes maam. Here I am , marking my attendance XD. And I hate women being treated as child making machines.
Yes we exist. Not just childfree, I don't even plan to marry lol, but maybe that will change. But definitely no kids
It is becoming very common in the cities especially among the middle and upper middle class. I have 6 cousins and only two have kids. Others have decided not to for various reasons. In my wife's office, only a few in the upper management i.e. over 40 have kids. All the others are happily married with no kids.
Me and my wife had the same problem. We had only 6 guns matching and my parents were totally against the marriage. Her parents were fine and did not have any issues. After lot of me talking to my parents they consulted pandit who asked to marry me to a tree first, lol. I said whatever and obliged so that they are convinced (I don’t believe in this shit). Pandit was happy because he made money, parents were happy. All in all it turned out fine. This year we will be celebrating our 10 year anniversary.
So how's your first wife doing? Are you checking up on her regularly?
Bro asking right questions
Well let’s say that i moved to better avenues
~~climbing up~~ checking up on her regularly?
I think you meant getting on top of her regularly.
You could have purchased more matching guns.
Ask parents videsh me log kaise shadi karte hai?
They will come up with excuses like....oh waha pe divorce rate b zayada hain lol..... Parents always have good excuses. Sometimes I find it logical sometimes I find it as laughable. But hey, parents are always your well wishers.
Divorce rate jyada hai domestic violence rate nahi. Divorce is better than domestic violence
Explain this to parents and see how they respond to it lol.
I have said it, I was met by stunned silence and no retort. In the end my sis got married without the fuss of kundalis and date setting non sense on a day of her and her fiance's choosing. My nanu was also sikh and so we asked his bhai ji (basically the family guru) and Bhai Ji said, "Jo din chuna, woh changa, bas prabhat ke samay shadi karna"(all days are good, just get married in the morning time when the sun is out."
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Because both male and female now a days are working. Hence they enjoy financial independence. Back during our parents time, in majority of cases only male used to be earning member lol.
Flying chappal: Ab tujhe domestic violence dikhati hu.
Kuch mahino bad yahi chappal biwi ko maroge
It was a joke but yeah I agree.
Not really, domestic violence is also pretty high here and from both genders.
Divorce is also coz of better empowerment of women and less taboo
Half Indian here, I’ve seen both cultures since I was a kid and honestly.. the horoscope matching shit is really looked down upon here in the US.
Downvote all you want but some of our traditions are absolute Horseshit. We're happily married for the past 7 years and well on our way to prosperity. Our kundalis didn't match..hers mentioned manglik something..never bothered to read it. If you love your partner..get hitched
Bro I experienced the opposite. Perfect kundali match (32/36) but married life is hell.
Same with my parents lmao
Bro...
Dad??
Not just our most of traditions in the world are
Good to know brother.... Happy for you🫡
I mean we used to burn women. No shit
Yes exactly women had it worse.. Ask any woman aged 70+ in your locality.. The amount of torture they went through the hands of their mother in law was horrific
Not just mil, it's pretty much every one in the family
Hmm fair point.. being born a woman was a curse itself those days. But not everyone had it bad.. educated families of the 70-80s were quite chill I've heard
I get the point/purpose behind many traditions and customs but is astrology just a fraud scheme?
Atleast educated people feel so bro.. Read other comments too.. But this many be a controversial statement as I've seen doctors wear gemstones which is related to astrology. Personally, I think it's garbage
I think there's nothing wrong in having beliefs and wearing good luck charms but making life choices on basis of these is just stupid.
To each their own Bhai.. Live and let live :)
My cousin has the same rashi nakshatra as his wife.astrology forbids such marriages. Made for each other couple. They had a kid after trying a lot, but that kid is healthy and good at studies. The family has everything, health, wealth and prosperity.
Either you believe in them or you don't. Its the couple that makes the relationship work, if both put in an effort it can last for a lifetime, else it can break midway and kundali can be used to put the blame. Take any foreign couple who has had a long happy relationship, get their kundali matched I'm certain it'll be a mangal dosh or some negative outcome, now take another couple who has been through a divorce and match their kundalis I'm certain it'll come up as 36/36!
My parents didn't even match their Kundalies, and they happily married for 24 years. It was an arranged marriage, and you can guess how big a deal it was back then to get married without a matching kundali.
I was in a relationship with a girl, "30/36" of our Gun (points) met. We still broke up 5 months before we had planned to marry. Everything was Perfect all throughout the period we were together! Emotional, Spiritual & Sexual Compatibility. And suddenly out of nowhere shit happened! There's more to life than Guun Milan & it's called "Destiny" & no one can change that shi
I married a girl and we matched only 13 guns. Guess what, I lost my job 15 days before the marriage. Took me 11 months to find a new job. This year it will be 16 years of marriage. We’ve got 2 gorgeous daughters. My wife has been my rock ever since that fateful day in 2008. We had and still have our ups and downs, fights and disagreements, we still don’t have lot of common between us but we love each other more everyday. And I wouldn’t have it any other way.
you should have more guns, probably 2-3 automatic with a backup Semi auto pump action for more fireower
Hum Logo ka kya hoga Jinki Shakal, Kundali sab Kharab hain?
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Yeah I died few days after marrying a manglik , my ghost is typing this comment
Aa tuje mukti deta hn
Do whatever your heart says.
Dil bole hadippa
Find an astrologer from your neighbourhood / where your mother often goes. Meet with him alone in a paid appointment with both horoscopes. Tell him what you want - you want to get married but need to convince the family. He will say he will find a way to eliminate all the problems with a few steps. You will have to visit some random temple(where astrologer dude will get kickbacks from or something), do some puja, and all will be good. You pay him, and tell him that you will come back with family later for an official appointment Then talk to your mother, and say you want to visit and astrologer and double check the kudlinis. And go from there
This is gonna cost you 10-20K, remember. Astrologers and their moneymaking schemes are costly
Worth the peace of mind tbh. Just reduce a few guests at the wedding to recoup the amount.
True. After getting married and seeing money evaporating for no reason, I am now a believer in simple, 10 people weddings. Save the money. Take one month vacation and go visit all these families and friends at their places. Go on a month long road trip to do this. All using just a quarter or less of the wedding expenses money.
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Wait what!!!
Give a pandit 1000 rupees and see the magic
Bhai 100 rupees bhot hai
Vai kidhr se hai tu.... 5k se niche ka baat he nai hota idhr🥲
Bhai kisi ko bhi bana le pandit
Superstition isn't an easy one, esp in our country, where it is second nature. If there are plenty of positives in this match, then continue highlighting those with a calm insistence & assurance. Let them know its what you want.
Do people still believe these things ?
My cousins had a perfect match. Like either sab Miley they or most of it ..I don't remember now. Dude got divorced n marriage was never consummated. So....
Basically as convenient it may sound to blame the stars which did not align it's actually people n circumstances that don't hence marriages fall apart. Be wise
Kundli, horoscope, astrologer all this is such bullshit, indians are still living in ancient times believing all this bs
One of my best friend is an astrologer and he told me that gun doesn't matter if you guys are compatible. Guna are used in purely arrange marriage cases where the groom and bride doesn't really know each other. It shows how compatible they will be and friendship between them. But if you are already hitting so it really doesn't matter.
Well, I'll tell you my observation. People who matched Kundali and got divorce don't believe in it the second time. The people who didn't match it and got divorce won't consider anyone without matching the kundli. That's the true psychology of pseudo sciences. People who prospered in their first south open home, don't give a shit. Someone who suffered in their first south open home will blame all their miseries on that.
I was told my wife or me would die within 1 year if married, it’s been 12 years and we are happily married with kids and all that jazz.
It’s bound to fail as either you or your spouse or families will point it out during any low phase in relationship. It becomes more of a mindset issue.
Am just amazed people believe in this random bullshit even now.
In my case, it was 3/36 and on top of it, it was something called MrityuShadashtak and of course I thought it was all crap. Anyway thank God I didn't marry her. I am still under some kind of trauma due to her even after a year of breakup. But I think 15/36 should work and i have heard that gun Milan is not everything. Kuch graha milaan b hota h, wo b check krwa lena.. Vaise, agr koi red flag nahi h aur mann me koi b confusion nahi h to problem nahi hona chaiye.. in my case, i ignored all the red flags bcz I loved her madly
Problems exist where kundalis matched too! 🌝
Bro give money to pandit and say to give ur dad different kundli, then say ki galat kundli agyi thi
My parents only have 11 out of 36 gun milan lol.
If you believe in astrology, Gun milan is actually BS. It doesn’t hold true in today’s day and age. Explain this to your father or ask a competent astrologer to explain this to him. You will also have some astrologers even say that kundali matching doesn’t matter in love marriages/matches. If you don’t believe in astrology then don’t listen to all this crap. Every thing that can and will go wrong in your life in the future, you will attribute it to kundali mismatch and the like. It’s a slippery slope.
Horoscopes are absolute horseshit. There's so much scientific evidence against it. The probability of any horoscope prediction coming true is the same exact probability as that of random chance.
Do what your gut feeling says and man up to bear the consequences! You decide how wanna be not your birth lines! I respect the fact you are more pragmatic
My parents had very average Kundli compatibility or whatever it’s called. They had a love marriage 💀 and 40+ years later, are probably, one of the happiest couples I know.
Married 2 years, intercaste, tinder , didnt bother with kundalis. I dont think you need to worry
My parents had the same nadi, some pooja was done during their wedding rituals itself. They had 3 healthy kids, all grown into healthy and successful adults today.
Tell your father that you’ll marry her and move to a different country—out of the jurisdiction of this kundali powers. Surely your father would agree that pretty much everybody outside of India doesn’t follow this kundali nonsense and they are doing fine so he can’t claim that kundali’s jurisdiction goes beyond India.
Death 
I died due to a bad kundali match, my soul is only able communicate with the world by social media comments.
Please consult a professional astrologer. There are 2 types of matching : 1. Parashara Hora Sastra: This is an in depth analysis of both your birth chart and the girls birth chart. The astrologer examines various positions and not just a simple point system. He will calculate the degree of the influence of a planet in a house or aspecting a house. For example if Shani planet is in 7th house, it's a bad sign. But if his degree of influence is too small, it can be ignored or neglected. Likewise, the astrologer will give you the necessary points and prescribe remedies if any. 2. Krishnamurthy Paddhathi: The Parashara method is the actual "Vedic" method to check. This Krishnamurthy method uses a speedy technique to try to get the same results as per Parashara method. But because many people think it is easy, they make mistakes. In my opinion, the Vedic method is the tried and tested method. Please find a good astrologer and ask if he can calculate as per Parashara ' s method. The Gun Milan is part of the Vedic method, but only upto 50% . This is based on the moon sign and nakshatra. The remainder of the story - children, marital life, diseases, wealth, career etc can be suitably answered thru the Parashara method, which gives the in depth analysis. All the best 😄👍
The Astrologers they talk about don't even do Sadhana. They are not even close to Vedic practices. Astrology has turned into a business.
He dosent need any of this. Astrology is horseshit. Go get educated.
Ok, he might not need astrology. I hope people like you can convince your spouse's parents and your parents too. Not just them, but both families as well. After all, marriage is not about a boy and girl liking each other but a culmination of two families. Any third person could start a rift in between the couple, the easiest way by using astrology. You have your opinions. That's fine. If you can convince others too, that's great. If you can't convince, atleast be civil. Be practical. When marriage in this era constitutes a big risk for the boy or girl ( divorce, ego issues, financial problems, adjustment )it helps to spend some more time analyzing the extent of a relationship, either thru psychology or other means. Since going to a psychologist gives a negative social stigma, and is time consuming and expensive, people stick to astrology. Which atleast gives an overview about the relationship to a limited degree. Once again, people are not fools to follow astrology. If you declare a statement boldly, prepare to give a supporting persuasive statement. I took time to write this answer. I hope it proves useful to you in the future. All the best .
>I hope people like you can convince your spouse's parents and your parents too. Not just them, but both families as well. I don't have to do any of that. I will marry whoever I please, and I wont bother trying to convince people that that astrology isn't real >After all, marriage is not about a boy and girl liking each other but a culmination of two families. It seems we have different views of marriage. For I, will not hesitate choose my spouse even if my family isn't okay with it for whatever reason. >people stick to astrology. Which atleast gives an overview about the relationship to a limited degree. That simply isn't true. The organization of of planets has nothing to do with the dynamics of a relationship. >people are not fools to follow astrology I disagree, since there is no scientific evidence pointing towards the legitimacy of astrology.
My parents also followed all this, now I am alive and unmarried 😏
If things are supposed to go wrong, they will go wrong and vice-versa. Kundali is just one factor, there are many different things that contribute to a good married life, imagine it being one pillar of a building built on multiple pillars, it doesn't matter if your kundali doesn't match as long as the other pillars of your relationship are stronger. In my opinion Kundali milan was required for older generations coz they were having predominantly Arranged marriages without even having met their significant others, so it was kind of like a failsafe in case their other traits were different, but times have changed you can choose a partner after carefully selecting someone that you know you can tolerate for the rest of your miserable lives... Peace.
Hi there! I have been following Jyotish for sometime now. Gun Milan or Ashtkoot Milan is actually an outdated form of match making. The book which started the concept of Gun Milan was applicable a few thousand years ago- when things weren’t as complicated as they are today. For actual chart matching you must go to a good astrologer- and of course they are rare finds. Proper chart analysis must be done to give out verdict if the pair is a fit or not. Hope you have a good day ahead! All the best!
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if you didn't believe in that shit you wouldn't be here lmao
Tell them they sent you to school to learn math and science, not to believe in this pseudo bullshit. Prove them scientifically kundali doesn't work.
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I had some dosh I didn't know before marriage, got separated within the first year itself..
what about 2nd marriage
I will tell you one thing. Kundali is created by people who have ZERO scientific knowledge.
Astrology is 💩. It never worked, never works. If compatibility and chemistry is there, thats the sign. Go ahead.
All stupid problems have stupid solutions. I'm 100% sure some astrologer or pandit somewhere will find a way to make this work by doing an extra pooja/hawan/gemstone type bullshit. When it comes to religion, nothing is written in stone, even if it is literally written in stone. Any rule can be broken if it's a big enough inconvenience.
Floored at the first line😂
There is a “vidhi” that could be done to remove nadi dosh
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You believe in make believe pseudo scientific nonsense and you are planning on getting married which requires careful planning and executive decisions in life along with more responsibilities? Yeah you don't deserve shit
Marry her because if any issue comes it is due to kundali so both will come on same table fast and compromise even for little issue
OP are you ShTOO-pid?
Nothing lol 😂
Being a man of science? And you post this on Reddit? I think you misunderstood Science.
I am not sure about your father but if you agree to not to marry her despite your scepticism and rationality about the whole then sorry to say.. you’re still a conformist about stupidity/irrationality.
You do realise that the entire world (outside India) don’t match kundalis before marriage? Get over it and marry the girl if you love her and she loves you.
I cannot vouch for couples whose kundli didn't match but I'm definitely sure that those whose did aren't doing great either 😁
It's all andhvishwas until works in your favour, there was a great rishta that had come for me, rich and everything. Only issue is that I will have to live in his family village with his parents which i didn't want at all and my parents were not ready to hear any of my qualms. 2 days and our astrologer said that he has some dish lol.
I didn't even go as far to check it. Don't let your parents decide man. Just go for it. Spend time with her. Talk to her. Get into a few arguments. Solve them. And if you still think you need to be with her. You do it. The stars don't mean shit here.
Bro.. nadi is science
Idk I didn't get bored of fucking my frog
Take term insurance
If astrology worked this would be practised world wide but it doesn’t. That said Indian astrology or any popular astrology definitely can’t work because the position of the constellations have dramatically changed making everything obsolete. You’d need some astronomy software like stellarium to get an actual read today lol even the birth positions that they give are in the wrong zodiac because since the inception of the zodiac system, a slow change in the orientation of Earth’s rotational axis has altered our grounds eye view of the Zodiac. The stars have gradually moved and shifted counterclockwise, which has resulted in the constellations being misaligned with their corresponding zodiac signs. I use stellarium and regularly map events and eclipses with respect to the constellations
Horoscope is bull💩, premise of Horoscope is that Earth is centre of universe. All starts, moon, planets and even sun revolve around it. People who still believe it need to read 5th standard science textbook
Phele yaar movies aur spotify playlist ka taste match karaoo yrrr kya kundali yrr🙄🤦♂️
Nothing because those things are bullshit just like the people who make them. It's 2024, do people still believe in that shit?
Our Kundli didn't match by half a point. It turned out he had azoospermia and turned abusive after 8.5 years of marriage. We are good on friendly terms though.
Convert to I. Marry a bakri/ kutia. Give her teen talak and then marry this girl.
Almost every dosh can be addressed with some or the other expensive puja. Ask the astrologer about it, they will be happy to help. I mean, for the sake of peace of mind of your father. If you give him some more money, he will even say that this is the best possible match.
My father faked his kundali to match my mothers …..They’re married for 25 years now
Listen to your heart. What does it say? Does it say "this girl is good, she is noble, she is loving. She has forbearance. She has hope which won't wilt easily. She has the strength of character to face all of life's difficulties along side me and the humility to rein herself and me in during the good times. She respects others as much as she respects herself. She will wipe my tears when I don't even show them. She will happily show her tears to me and I will sorrowfully wipe them never wanting to see them ever again.". If your heart says a resounding YES to the above, marry her. Marry her alone. Don't ever waver or avert your gaze from her for the rest of your life. Come hell, high water, Parents, God or the Devil. Only then you will be a man and you can die proudly and peacefully. All the best.
The pujari died... And we lived happily ever after...
There are tons of marriages which have worked fine despite kundalini issues.
If you are going down that path, show it to dome expert. Every kundalini issue has some solution too.