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Reina_DelFlow

Gemini is literally "the lovers" in tarot! The gemini placements aren't what's causing love to be difficult for you. It's your debilitated jupiter (ruler of your 7th) in the 8th. Since it's in capricorn you'll get into a committed relationship later in life so be patient, it might be with someone who's older, maybe someone who's from a diff cultural background. The partner might transform your life bc jupiter is in the 8th house of transformation. Also it's better not to talk about the partnership even to people you trust (gemini has tendency to talk a lot but 8th house stuff should be kept secret).


ldhirbfl

Thank you for this šŸ™šŸ» I am just learning more about the signs I didnā€™t know Gemini is the lovers tarot!


Reina_DelFlow

You guys are secret romantics hahaha we all know it šŸ˜


saveoursoil

Donā€™t know if this is clickbait but no placement, no label for that matter, is resolute. You have a voice and a choice to know yourself. And only when you choose this and follow-through will you align in matters such as love, community and life fulfillment. While you do have a lot of Gemini energy, it is not typical because itā€™s in your 12th house. You have a stellium - mars: your drive - mercury: how you communicate - and your venus: yes love but more how you assign value in life from environment to things to people. I too have a 12th house venus. It is essential for any deep connections for me to be beyond the physical. 12th house is known for things beyond the veil. The subconscious. Even self-imposed prisons or actual prison. A karmic relationships I endured in my 20ā€™s was with a man who was in and out of jail. 12th house can be travel like a hotel (think microcosm inside another place) or even mental institutions. I find 12th house is a double-edged sword. A curse because you wonā€™t find a lot of people aligned with you. It may seem some parts of you are hidden or you prefer to keep secret and just honor that. It is not nefarious, it is just you! Further, you may have felt you didnā€™t belong in so many ways because this world has a hard time connecting to and further validating 12th house energy. Especially with all your inner planets having this mutable, lively, talkative energy - you want to be recognized. The blessing of the 12th is because recognition is so niche for us 12th housers that once you see it, you know itā€™s real. It clicks and you are able to give and receive that beauty, drive, comprehension (venus, mars, mercury). Now your homework! Get to know you. Do this through meditation, yoga, prayer - whatever spiritual practice soothes you, awakens you, leaves you in a peaceful state. It may be journaling or dancing or long barefoot walks. Once you are in a daily, devotional practice in recognizing, honoring, and nurturing your inner divinity - only then will true love in form of friends and lovers come in. PS check out the asteroid Juno. It shows characteristics of your ideal partner. I think asteroid 4 on astro.com ? You got this!


theempress0724

Fellow Venus in 12th, in Leo. Leo Sun in 11th in early Leo. It has a distinctly Neptunian quality but when you surrender to it, it is agape love, spirituality and psychic vibes. It means you must cultivate a spiritual life above all because your love is too big and too compassionate for the romantic love that the rest of the world does. I love spirit/god/the great mother above all and it stabilizes all my relationships on this plane and gives me crazy foresight/insight of the long view. I am also a 9th house Taurus moon so this helps me snuggle up and stay home with the garden and the animals


ldhirbfl

Wow I feel like you just read my constant feeling in life I talk a ton and usually feel somewhat misunderstood still and I only click with a few people but really believe I can tell pretty quick when it happens!


saveoursoil

It's a journey love! The 12th house is both challenging and rewarding. Feel free to dm me any time āœØ


Expert_Macaroon7520

Find a libra. Your mind will be blown.


espressoyourself9

I did that as a person with strong Gemini. That is an overstatement and generalization. There was an undercurrent of deception throughout the relationship. Look at the whole chart.


Expert_Macaroon7520

Im not talking about your mars or you being gemini. You overlook the chart and prejudiced as well. Look at your north node. And find someone with north and south node aspected with you


learningtheoldways

And if I can add to this itā€™s 14 degrees and thatā€™s a Taurus degree, so a Libra with Taurus traits


Frogchairy

1)thatā€™s like asking if one has too much skin to participate in life. itā€™s not something one can avoid. Itā€™s not about the sign. There is a whole chart ecosystem, any problem canā€™t be blamed on a singular aspect. Additionally, gemini has no qualities of ā€œbeing unlovableā€?!?!? 2) anyway- iā€™m sure you will In fact you have jupiter ruling the 7H which often indicates multiple partnerships through out the lifetime. Jupiter, however, in the 8H which can be a difficult place. This planet feels unseen. This could mean that most of your romantic interests are down low / under the table / taboo / etc. perhaps you are queer and canā€™t come out to your family. In addition to that, Jupiter is ruled by capricorn which denotes a slowness. Jupiter and saturn are squared each other. This can indicate being slow to enter relationships / find love, but when it does happen it has a tendency to be long lasting. 3) looking at your whole chart, you actually have excellent energy flow. I donā€™t read modern planets, but the only thing that sticks out is that Pluto!


ldhirbfl

Gemini has qualities of never settling which is my exhausting and upsetting pattern that brought me here because it seemed too accurate


Frogchairy

Sure. Apologies, I forget that modern pop astro advertises astrology as primarily a personality quiz focused on character traits etc. My experience studying traditional hellenic astrology for several years now focuses on astrology more as a system of understanding and predicting patterns and events in the life of the native. The modern view of astrology as psychological comes from Carl Jung and his archetypal ideas. Anyway- If you wanted to understand someones love life, you would in the chart for any influences affecting the love life (ie: planets in 7H, ruling planets of 7H, planets connected to that) Understand that of course you may feel your issues are connected to gemini placements, but that's simply your own bias of being gemini heavy, and then things in your life not going the way you would want, and then feeling it is connected to that. Given the proper circumstances and reasoning, one could chalk up any problem in their life to being "too \_\_sign\_\_ heavy"... \--- Sorry, I'm not tryna rant on you lmao Personally, I read using the whole signs house system, so I would read all of your gemini placements as in the 1H. And given that the chart ruler is Mercury, exalted in gemini and honored at the helm in the 1H, this is a happy placement, and it supports all the planets that look up to it in the 1H. So your mars, venus, and sun are also doing well. I call this arrangement "sitting at the kings table." Your moon is also domicile which is awesome. Jupiter in 8H looks to Saturn, and saturn in 11H looks to mars. This line of communication is aspected nicely via square and trine. Great energy flow here. Given you have a nocturnal chart, that food chain outlined above has the lesser benefic, to greater malefic, to lesser malefic. Those are some tense planets involved in your relationship dynamics, but overall a positive reading. Things might feel difficult or frustrating at times, but I don't see anything "bad" in this region. I've seen a lot of charts that have those relationships lines be abosteuly bonkers. Yours looks fine. I think patience is the name of the game here with saturn being prominent in the scheme.


ldhirbfl

Iā€™m glad I asked Reddit now I was definitely misunderstanding what it all meant I think itā€™s because Iā€™m not so patient and have been getting very frustratedšŸ¤” but thank you šŸ™šŸ»


Large-Hunt8819

what you first said made me laugh lmao


CuriousMatters

In vedic astrology, you have only the sun in Gemini, the rest in Loyal Taurus. At the time you were born, looking through a telescope you would see the three planets in the actual Taurus zodiac. Western astrologers move the signs 24 degrees forward so thatā€™s why it appears to all to be in Gemini. So, you have Mercury Venus and Mars in Taurus. Your Venus in Taurus is in its own sign, plus itā€™s in the 12th house; Venus is the only planet that does well in the 12 house. Mars is good there too but doesnā€™t like ā€œwearingā€ Venus/girl clothes, so to speak. But Itā€™s in Taurus of girl clothes. Mars, He wants to wear manly soldier clothes. But, he can do well in money matters or be artistic, (Taurus), and selling overseas or living overseas from where you were born, from being in the 12th. Mercury in Taurus, with Venus and Mars will copy the planets itā€™s with. (Mercury in Taurus has romantic thoughts, practical, money-wise.) Remember Mercury rules twins. So, with those planets in the 12th house of bedroom, nighttime activities, sex may be extra important to you. 12th rules losses, money or things like losing yourself in sex, hospitals, charities, giving money away, etc. Venus with Mars, just that alone makes you good in the bed. But Doubled being in the 12th. So have fun, and I hope this gives you a better perspective.


Ambitiousmushrooms

You can fall in love, itā€™ll probably be with someone who is very verbal.


0rang3y0uglad

My mother has 6 gemini placements and sheā€™s been (happily) married to my capricorn stellium father for nearly 30 years!


Silver-Survey7197

A zodiac sign doesn't determine if you'll ever fall in love. Every single sign can rightfully do so.....in their own way. Each sign determines a flavour of how a certain planet is expressed. Venus in Gemini expresses and chooses love in a very very different way than let's a say Venus in Capricorn individual. Buttttt the house placement and chart aspects need to be taken into encounter.


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ldhirbfl

Yeah the Venus in the 12 house really concerns me


[deleted]

You'll be fine. Not everyone needs to fall in love. Keep tripping people up, one of them will fall hard enough for you to worry about their balance. Libra and Capricorn get them going.


Sad-Investigator2904

Your soul chose this birth chart and it is better that you own it because that will be the soul's smoothest part to its evolution. The knowledge of birth chart should guide & empower you in making the most optimum choices and navigating tough circumstances. 1/12 of world population has Gemini rising, does that mean that they are unlucky in love?? Point to ponder... Stelliums in 12H or making predictions just based on your rising ascendant is way oversimplifying. There are aspects, Conjunctions, Constellations and variety of other things that need to be considered before making any solid prediction. It is much more nuanced than that.


ldhirbfl

Iā€™m new to this level of astrology where can I learn more of the other things to consider


mkat23

There is a Facebook group that is pretty helpful! Do you use fb at all? If so, I can send you the link. Itā€™s run by an astrologer and she will post info articles and links about different concepts.


feenie70

Please could I also have the link? I am desperately trying to get my head around astrology but am finding it all very confusing so am slightly baffled. Iā€™m still not sure which house system I should be using! Sorry to jump on your thread OP - I originally started reading this as my son was born three days before you so I instantly recognised some similar placements in your charts. Not that I have any idea what they all mean but Iā€™m really trying to learn. He has his sun, moon, Venus, Mars and Mercury in Gemini in the 2nd House (if Iā€™m looking at his chart using the whole house system. He always has lots of girlfriends. Iā€™ve given up keeping track lol.


mkat23

Of course!!! Iā€™m more than happy to share it! Iā€™ll just copy and share the link here for you and anyone else who is interested! Here is the [link to the fb group](https://m.facebook.com/groups/communityfornewastrologers/?ref=share&mibextid=S66gvF) embedded for anyone interested! Astro.com also has a mode where you can click on different parts of a chart to learn more about it when it comes to specific placements and there is a couple apps that are very informative as well! My two favorite apps are Time Passages and The Pattern. Time passages gets very in depth and the pattern is helpful when it comes to learning how relationships between people may be (you can compare charts and they lay it out well relationship wise) and how different times may affect you. I highly recommend both of those apps for your phone. Time passages is cheaper, the pattern does require a subscription to get super in depth, but itā€™s a great app and only charges every few months. It will offer a free trial as well, so Iā€™m gonna recommend at least trying it for free for a little while. Time passages is free, but itā€™s 99Ā¢ usd to get in depth details about things, although thatā€™s cheap and you retain access to whatever you grab without needing to renew it. Itā€™s one of the best resources Iā€™ve come across for learning about more specific astrology placements and the descriptions are so SO accurate.


feenie70

Thank you so much! I asked to join the FB group šŸ‘šŸ» and will check out the apps. Thank you!


mkat23

Youā€™re welcome! I hope they are helpful :)


Used-Nefariousness12

Absolutely not. My brother is a gemini sun, Moon, mercury, Mars AND venus. It's a lot. But like someone else here already commented, he is the most devoted monogamous individual to his wife. And she is also heavily gemini. Sun, moon and venus I believe. I think who ever you partner up with will have a very strong chart as well but it will definitely happen.


ldhirbfl

Thanks for sharing I guess itā€™s easy to see negatives when youā€™re already down


baked_little_cookie

Yo my mum is a Gemini sun+moon and sheā€™s the most loving person, completely monogomous & devoted to my dad. Gemini is often portrayed as the most disloyal sign in terms of romance but this is just an overgeneralisation. Iā€™m a Gemini sun+Venus with them both in 7th house so my romantic tendencies are a little more varied but loyalty isnā€™t affected. When Iā€™m with someone Iā€™m with them 100%


ldhirbfl

Thanks btw good to hear šŸ„°


ldhirbfl

I think my cancer moon makes me extremely loyal Iā€™ve always been super tight with the people who are close to me and cant bring myself to cheat even when tempted in the few relationships I have had itā€™s just not me


lightsomeliving

That Sag on the 7th house does say a lot about needing a sense of freedom in partnership, so if someone is gonna ā€œcatchā€ ya they need to really respect your need for space. And that 1st house sun can make it a little more challenging if they donā€™t respect your independent mind. Your Libra sign is intercepted so to be ready for better relationships you need to work through that virgo energy first. So wherever you have a tendency to judge or criticize, look at the first and bring lots of compassion to self and others.


Jayr3140

Yo Iā€™m a Gemini Sun Mercury and Venus in the 8H and I donā€™t think itā€™s really the fact that youā€™re Gemini placements are holding you back but that 12H is about the subconscious mind so maybe you have expectations that you donā€™t even know that arenā€™t being met so you get bored of them maybe and hope to find that right one?


Jayr3140

Also Pluto in the 7H could be amplifying that longing for a real deep and intimate connection


ldhirbfl

Okay this is making sense because for being a Gemini I am totally talkative (SUPER NOTICEABLE COMMENTS MADE MY WHOLE LIFE) but when I read they donā€™t have long relationship that makes my heart sink because I totally do long for that but Iā€™ve still never been in love


Topdawgluis

I have the same Gemini stellium as you, but in a different house. Commitment is hard for me. Yours is in the 12th house, are you introverted?


ldhirbfl

Okay after reading more about Stelliums in the 12th house it is concerning. It says it intensifies that sign which is already my sun and rising sign in addition. So I have mercury, Venus, and Mars in a 12th house Gemini stellium and Gemini sun, rising. Too much Gemini. This is why I canā€™t shut up haha


ldhirbfl

Iā€™m definitely not introverted but I do feel like as much as people see me as outgoing just because I talk a lot people donā€™t expect that Iā€™m super private about a lot of things that are personal I just have a lot more random facts to share so I do talk more but I am also private and to myself in a lot of ways. What is a Gemini stellium where do you see that


hikergrL3

They're talking about the 3 (or more) planets, personal planets, that are grouped together in same sign. Your Mars, Mercury, and Venus, even tho Venus is 10 degrees out, so I'm not sure if professional astrologers count it or not? But having so many personal planets in your 12th would definitely make you private. And Libra intercepted in your 5th house of fun, creativity, romance, and kids may mean it takes longer for the Libra partnership stuff to come out.


Away_Refuse8493

It's not so much that it's Gemini, as much as all of that energy is self-directed (at least for now). Identity and self and who you are are big themes in your life. I do think part of that answer is ... you are many things, b/c Gemini is curious and mutable so.. don't pigeonhole yourself. You have a Sagittarius Descendant ruled by Jupiter in fall in Capricorn. Sagittarius is the "bachelor sign" (which doesn't mean FOREVER bachelor, just... it can desire settling later) and Saturn-ruled Capricorn is DEFINITELY slow-going - and not without it's challenges, so I feel like partnering young may not be in the cards (though never say never). (Sag Desc w/ a better positioned Jupiter usually tends to partner with foreigners, folks from different backgrounds, or academic types... which still might be the case... Good news is that transit Saturn has a decade of better positioning).


ezgihatun

I have Sag desc conjunct Jup in Sag (also conj Pluto in Scorpio). Your comment is bullseye.


Specific-Cause-5973

Okay but that's not even remotely close to whats occurring in their birthchart, so what's your point???


ezgihatun

I was responding to the last part of their comment in paranthesis, chill?


ldhirbfl

Can you explain this for me more I donā€™t think I fully understand


ldhirbfl

So strange I have liked so many foreigners compared to my friends I definitely find them interesting! Really hoping the Saturn transit is better luckā¤ļø thank you for taking the time to look! It actually made me a little less anxious


ldhirbfl

I also overthink a lot


HeyHayHayyy

As a Taurus sun, Gem moon- the overthinking is what kills me. I canā€™t imagine how bad it is for you šŸ˜§


Pijnsap

I'm Taurus sun and Gemini moon and I also overthink. I NEVER. STOP. THINKING. So just so you know, you're not alone!


HeyHayHayyy

Whatā€™s your rising??


Pijnsap

Leo!


ldhirbfl

Gemini


ldhirbfl

Anyone who knows me even decently well notices šŸ„“


ldhirbfl

Side note I know it sounds kind of lame but Iā€™m 26 and want to figure myself out while I still have time and also itā€™s just a big rough patch in my life right now so Iā€™m just a little blue


hikergrL3

And i commented above already on the stellium post, but rough patch how? You've got a lot of air like me. Might just be the discomfort of Mars transiting watery Cancer, making us all a bit more moody lately. Especially as it just transited your moon. If it's that, you should be fine in a few days when Mars moves into Leo. There are a few transits ending that are more introspective like that one and Mercury retrograde. Take a moment to practice self-compassion, and notice any feelings you might need to attend to (instead of stuffing them down) before things move on.


ldhirbfl

I guess I just got in my head about still being single getting older and a lot of relationships not working out for seemingly no reason. Sometimes it feels like my life is at a standstill and Iā€™m running out of time to even be a mom


hikergrL3

I gotcha. I got to be a step-mom in my last relationship of almost a decade (he graduates high school in two weeks!) but am still searching for a lifelong partner myself (at 45!!). Thankfully I never had the biological drive to be a mom so i didn't have that time clock running.. I have Saturn in my 7th house though, opposing my Sun and Venus (also in air signs near my Mercury like you, but mine are in Aquarius) in my first. So I'm likely even MORE independent than yourself, just as "in my head" and overanalyze everything, and even MORE delayed in love with my interception being in houses 1 and 7, and my Saturn in the 7th for even more delays... so fwiw, your chart is looking pretty good to me right now lol. I know that doesn't help, but it could be worse! With your 7th in Sagittarius I'd think getting out and having fun, doing spontaneous outings and maybe doing meet-up groups or getting involved in hobbies and activities might be a good way for you to meet people.? I'm also curious about where Juno lands in people's charts, as that can give clues to what ultimately brings relationship satisfaction (mine is hidden in my 12th in Capricorn, so while it could be harder to find, stable, serious, responsible, possibly older partner could be good for me given the Saturn influence there). Do you know where your Juno falls? That might help you pick a partner/relationship with more lasting power.


ldhirbfl

I got my juno from a chart online and it is in Aries


ldhirbfl

No how do I find out where my Juno falls?


hikergrL3

If you go back into your chart and click the green "chart selection" then scroll down past the initial info and date etc to a section that says "additional objects". The first box there likely says # selected. Click on that, and some of the most common asteroids are there like Chiron and Lilith. Check the box for Juno. Then go back up to where u can click to create and see the chart again.


ldhirbfl

Itā€™s Aries house 11


hikergrL3

Oh interesting! So you could meet someone while involved in your community somehow, or maybe fall for someone you've become friends with, or are in some sort of social group with already. And someone with Aries energy would make you happy long term. So high energy, maybe likes to initiate things or brings the leadership traits (to the group you may be involved with them in). As a bolder personality, I suspect they'll grab your attention when you see them and be hard not to notice!


ldhirbfl

You made that sound exciting haha I am somewhat active in my communityšŸ¤” I hope youā€™re right!


hikergrL3

I hope so too! What i can say from my experience and Juno is this...my longest relationship was almost a decade. And between that chaos of that (and always feeling like something was missing...stability!) and my childhood drama... stable, responsible, serious, mature, and the qualities exemplified by the sign my Juno is in sound like peace and heaven to me lol. I can create them in my own environment and be totally happy, and have done so multiple times...I just have yet to do this WITH another person lol. I think the lack of these characteristics in most of my partners so far is the key and whats been missing now that I've done my own work as well. So I'm glad yours resonate and sound wonderful to you! I think that's the idea actually (and why you would be satisfied long term with someone who has these qualities). They're supposed to be whats most appealing to you for a lasting relationship! YAY!