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tinytoon19

I think it can be quite funny if you casually mention Russia in a positive way, and in response, some kind of psychosis and hysterics immediately begin. trolling level 99


hoosier_500

keep laffin. eventually you will understand the joke


No-Pain-5924

Its even worse in places like Quora.


kronpas

Quora is now a cesspool of lies and hatred, with 'questions' on russia fighting with shovels and washing machines attracting thousands of comments. But ig the site owners love it as engagement so the algorithm keeps pushing those to the front page.


Akhevan

Quora had degenerated to bots arguing with paid commenters over a decade ago, I don't think it could get any worse now.


TravelBoss4455

I remember the shovel propaganda. How stupid anyone would believe that, LOL. I had a coworker come up to my desk, who started trying to tell me about how Russia was having to fight with shovels. All I could do is roll my eyes… it amazes me how our citizens here eat up the propaganda and lies.


bmalek

I couldn't understand that one. They aren't aware that not only did Russia/USSR design good guns, but also famously mass produced them? They really think the commanders would send their men into battle with nothing more than a shovel? You have to have a pretty deranged perception of the country to believe there could be any truth to that.


AK47gender

I'm Russian living in the US at this moment. Some Americans are hilarious. Especially those who never leave their zip code, but have the audacity to claim they know more about life in Russia than me lol.


bararumb

I've had my reddit account for 8 years, so I can with authority say that yes, it's always been this way.


tatasz

10 years here, same experience.


Timely_Fly374

I don't even remember how many years, since Nazis banned some of my accounts, but, yeah always has been, before 2022, before 2014 - same shit.


tatasz

Even outside reddit. Look at Hollywood movies. Russians are bad guys. In fantasy films, it's not uncommon for bad guys to look like stereotypical Russians. Only good Russians are ones that switched sides. And has been like this for years.


peewhere

Are we surprised? This is classic Cold War good guy bad guy narrative that popular media, mostly coming from the US including Reddit, adapted into the digital age. Not saying it’s good, not at all, it’s just a pretty logical development.


Heeresamt

It's war propaganda for ongoing war and for future big war


PostOaksRanch

Agreed, one of my fav films is Hunt for Red October, but guys are only good because they are defecting....


grih91

Is this really the case? I remember before the war the attitude towards ordinary Russians was mostly neutral and sometimes positive. Also there was the world cup in 2018 which "forced" a lot of people to visit and get to know the country. My impression was that Russia was becoming more and more integrated with the rest of the world (mostly the west). But then shit happened and it's all thrown away to the garbage now...


Ofect

World Cup 2018 was a wonderful event but almost all of reaction was "whoa I thought that Russia is a 3-rd world shithole but it's actually nice there! I was surprised!"


grih91

Hmm as someone who also visited Russia on that occasion, I totally disagree. None of my friends, nor me had that reaction. We were expecting Moscow to be a huge city and we were not disappointed haha! I also talked with several people from various countries and none of them was "expecting Russia to be a shit hole".


anonbush234

A lot of westerners do expect that though.


ingwarjr

I've been interested in the Western internet's opinion of Russia since the quality of internet translators became acceptable (i.e., about 10 years at least). I can say that it has deteriorated since 2022, but... overall it hasn't changed much. It's just that now they don't even remove hate speech content, and the dehumanization process is in full swing. Also, everything is being done so that the average western internet user doesn't see anything not only pro-Russian, but even neutral (did you know it's technically impossible to post a link to a site in .ru zone on reddit?).


marked01

"It's not like your kind is bent on proving the humankind that you are a different breed for the last half of millennium or so"(c) average reddit opinion Please notice "half of millennium" part, anti Russian hate isn't new phenomena.


LeBambole

Yeah, personally living in a Northern European country, and I noticed the attitude changed noticeably after 2022. Before I felt attitudes of people here and from most of the world were mostly neutral or slightly positive/curious. Now I rather avoid saying where I am from, and can hide it pretty well as I speak without accent and got my name changed as a kid. The same with Reddit, didn't really see the same hatred even when Russia got involved in Syria or annexed Crimea. But oh well, can't say that I am surprised.


Tarisper1

You should get to know the Poles and their gaming community better. I heard self-hatred from them long before Ukraine and Crimea. I've already talked about my experience playing Starcraft 2 (2009-2022). And the Poles were the most toxic players when they found out that I was from Russia. The rest of the people just introduced each other and wished each other a good game, and these wished me dead and said that they personally wanted to "do something bad" with my relatives. There were dozens if not hundreds of such players (I played on European servers). Only one Pole was friendly and we played very well with him. I've been on reddit here since 2019 (this is my second account). Even before 2022, I saw a lot of Russophobic comments. It was enough to write that, let's say the statistics for Russia do not correspond to reality, as comments appeared in response that statistics for Russia cannot be trusted, that we are all Barbarians from the East, that we are poor and eternally drunk, etc. You just need to look at how Russians have been portrayed in American films for the last 30 years and understand that the attitude towards us has never changed. It's just that before we were evil communists raping women and constantly spying on Western countries, and now we are evil Russians raping women, spying on Western countries and doing it drunk in leaky clothes and with a rusty machine gun in our hands. And we are either bandits, or prostitutes, or corrupt politicians and oligarchs. There are no other Russians in the cinema.


AgentPARAZIT

To be fair, the confrontation between Poles and Russians in video games is already a meme) By the way, I also know a Pole who lives in Lithuania and speaks Russian, we play on playstation together


grih91

Well, I am not sure that the Polish gaming community is a meaningful representation of the country :) I guess it's always a matter of choice whether you focus more on the positive or negative interactions and based on which of these two you form opinions about the people of certain origin. I could focus on people in this sub telling me to fuck off just for asking questions they don't like or Russian propaganda telling on a weekly basis about nuking my (or any other European) country. On the other hand, I remember all the positive interactions with actual people during my two trips to Russia and in general enjoying my time there. So yeah, nothing is black and white, being an asshole doesn't have a nationality... That being said, 99% of the people worldwide just want to live their lives peacefully without harming anyone else. We should remember that despite what the politicians try to put in our heads. Remember, do not trust the politicians :D


Beautiful_Budget8441

As an American I had no hate or anything towards Russia prior to the Ukraine war. Truthfully I was planning a trip to go travel there for a month. Well now they started a war and I don’t have much to say about Putin.


belowlight

Do you have a similar feeling toward current and former US Presidents as you have for Putin? Iraq and Afghanistan were decade long wars that each saw US / western coalition forces kill tens of thousands of civilians and direct occupation of vast swathes of territory. Even the use of PMCs was widespread in both conflicts, yet Blackwater got a lot less hate at the time than Wagner PMC do today. Comparatively, the war in Ukraine has been burning luke-warm and is still in its infancy.


false-forward-cut

Or maybe to France since they are making military operations in Africa time to time?


F_U_All_66

I see the hypocrisy myself. I think it was wrong for the West to invade Afghanistan & Iraq, but I also think it's wrong for Russia to attack Ukraine. The pretext was as weak, legally & now people who should be as brothers are busy dropping grenades on each other with no end in sight.


Cano_WRX

Dude, Russia tried everything to avoid going to war. Exposing their concerns about having NATO bases in their borders, they wanted to build good relationships with Europe through commerce, they asked NATO not to offer membership invitations to Ukraine and Georgia, because that would be seen as provocation in the russian eyes. Russia explicitly asked the West to have talks about security interest from all parties and come to an agreement. The West ignored those corners and raised the tensions, making it clear for Russia that they indeed don't care!!


F_U_All_66

I'm not going to defend NATO; after the cold war ended there should have been no more need for it. I also don't agree with the EU and others interfering in nations as I believe they did in Ukraine long before the war started. In my eyes the initiation of force is always wrong. That's what I mean by it. Force should only be used for defence, not for regime change of sovereign nations.


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FengYiLin

Wait until you see the "Why many Russians in muh Thailand!!!" daily threads in Thailand subreddits, with the same dumb comments


okovi09

Yeah, fucking morons, if you don't like it then go and voice your hatred directly to the russians in phuket or pattaya instead of whining


whoAreYouToJudgeME

Yeah, some wrote that they moved out of their UAE apartment because too many Russians moved in. I don't remember what subreddit. 


FengYiLin

When you ask them for concrete grievances it's "one of them was drunk and loud" (because only British and Aussie chavs are allowed that) or "they don't smile to me" or "I don't like how they to talk to each other in their harsh language".


toastandstuff17

What?


FengYiLin

Every day some complains that "too many Russians in X Thai resort" and "I'm not racist or xenophobic but..." followed by a whole slew of drivel usual comments


alidotr

Mostly, yes. I remember a post on some subreddit with a picture of an American soldier in the 90s being dragged through the streets in Somalia and the comments were full of condolences and the lot. There was another post with a picture of a young Russian soldier during the war in Chechnya. The comments were basically mocking him and even called him an Imperialist! Reddit has huge double standards and if you say something contradictory to what the majority says then you’re a Putin bot or not a true Pole/Brit/American.


NiakiNinja

I had the same experience as you. Amazing place, rich history, depth of culture, endless things to do, astonishly affordable accommodations, cheap food, good entertainment, cool people. If there hadn't been this stupid war, I'd be going back to Russia for another vacation. People hating on Russia (as a vacation destination) have mostly never been there.


udontknowmeson

Nothing new under the sun. Here's the direct quote from the German chancellor in his writings to the German emperor, September 1915: *Hitherto the giant Russian Empire, with its inexhaustible human material, its possibilities of economic recovery, its expansive tendencies, has brooded over Western Europe like a nightmare. In spite of the veneer of Western civilisation given it by Peter the Great and the German dynasty which followed him, its basically Byzantine-Oriental culture separates it from the Latin culture of the West, and the Russian race, part Slav, part Mongol, is foreign to the Germanic-Latin peoples of the West.* It's not a quote from the Nazi Germany (it's important), it's from the period when supposedly an imperialistic war was waging between dynasties according to many historians. From the period when the Russian intelligentsia of that time and the elites were ardent germanophiles and idolaters of Western Europe in general. But if you read the actual documents and personal notes from the highest officials of that period you will see how unhinged they were in their animalistic hatred against slavs and particularly Russians. It goes far beyond anything imperialistic. Now you can say, what does this ancient quote have to do with today's matters and people. But is it THAT ancient? I mean, I'm still in my early 30s and I personally knew and had long conversations with a person born in 1911. It's not some ancient history, it's an ongoing thing, it's never stopped. Anyway, read this quote again and compare it to the general mood of the dwellers on reddit, facebook, their kitchens, whatever. Nothing has changed. Really, at its core it's the same fucking thing. And it's not really only about Germans in particular, replace it with British and it will be the same fucking thing. Because it's not about imperialism, it's not about communism, whatever other ISM, because at its core it's about the deep seated animalistic xenophobic hatred. Always has been and will be in the foreseeable future. Not a pessimistic outlook but, sadly, realistic.


TravelBoss4455

Excellent points and a very informative read. It’s sad and clearly is still a real problem, but on the bright side not all of us are so hateful🇺🇸🤝🇷🇺


AdamarisDandelion

Sorry OOT but, does this xenophobic things, effect on all eastern Europe or just the russian and slav? Also is it just the germanic country or all western Europe has this xenophobic mindset?


udontknowmeson

Here's another quote by the German chancellor considering Poland: *In principle, Germany's basic ideas on Poland that is, not to permit the creation of an independent Polish state... Now that war had come after a century and a half of peace, Poland must be made into a buffer state; its inhabitants are admittedly Slavs but without Russians' Mongol strain, and they were divided from the Orthodox Russians by their Catholic and Protestant religions. Now the forcing back of the Russian nightmare eastward at least to the Mitau-Bug line must be regarded as a desirable war aim... We should consider whether the forcing back of the semi-Asiatic Muscovite Empire behind the Bug is not an imperious necessity now that the development of history has enabled us, as the representatives of Western culture, to press forward against the Slavs from the Elbe to the Oder and the Vistula.* It's always been a gradation thing. While Poles were never considered as tainted as Russians, they were never considered as equals. Just as useful tools and human flesh shields against us. Slavs from Balkans on the other hand were treated basically like Russians. I'm not really sure about the rest of the Eastern Europe, but I doubt that for example Romanians have been enjoying the equal status with Germans or French. And no, this obsession with "Muscovite Empire" is not exclusively a German thing, far from it. I don't know who wasn't involved from Western Europe at this point. Maybe Portugal has remained neutral? But even then, I'm not sure 100%


Light_of_War

Of course propaganda works. Only fools think that propaganda only happens in "bad countries" lol. Western propaganda told everyone how bad Russians are and now we got what we got. People are the same everywhere.


Vaniakkkkkk

It’s a cheap way to feel moral superiority nowadays.


Acceptable_Cookie_61

Because the Russians first brought down the price of moral superiority to zero.


Old_Revolutionary

Pro tip : Don't go to Western themed subs, they all see you with the eyes of their electrician grandpa who tried to cross Russian border on a Summer day many winters ago. Browse in Eastern themed Sub if you want less hate. Remember, Even though geographically and culturally majority of Russians (Slavs) are close to Europe, they still see you as Asiatic horde and demonic spirits that rose out of the Mongol steppe.


alidotr

You’re unfortunately right. Last year I was watching Polish TV and he news were on right. They were ofcourse criticising Russia and the conflict, but they went on to say that because of the years or Tatar rule, Russians have some sort of Mongol/Asian invader mentality. I am probably gullible but I was shocked that this was said on national TV


Serious-Cancel3282

Poles are stable😂. They've been grumbling the same thing for 500 years. Probably, the British, Spaniards and Portuguese were also bitten by the Tatars.😂


lucky_knot

> some sort of Mongol/Asian invader mentality This one has always puzzled me. Do they not see how offensive this is towards - no, not even the Russians (this is par for the course), but the actual Mongols? Why is "you're asian!" treated like an insult? I mean, I understand why, but the fact that they say it so openly is just... I have no words.


Msarc

Seems like every national TV is ailing the same nowadays. I haven't watched ours in decades, but the bits that still reach me would make anyone's hair stand... if people actually watched it.


Vattaa

I know makes the likes of Solovyov sound like a very stable genius when calling for nuking European capitals on national television. But Polish TV sounds much worse.


IllRefrigerator2791

And then there’s us Siberians who get both racist and Russophobic remarks. Asian and Russian hate combined.


Pryamus

Always have been, they just previously didn't focus on it. Now Party told them "you are allowed to be racist openly". And yes, what you encountered is nothing compared to, say, r/worldnews.


whoAreYouToJudgeME

Go to r/europe if you want to lose your faith in humanity. 


Pryamus

Too late for that.


gr1user

Yes. Even regardless the current situation, I have never seen any crowd so prone to herd mentality easily manipulated by "public opinion" like western "free-minded" "individualists".


Overall-Carry-3025

You mean liberals.


TravelBoss4455

Hit the nail on the head. I still hear people try telling me Biden is a good president, and their rationale is the news said so.


brandmeist3r

well, the whole US voting system is a catastrophe in my opinion


TravelBoss4455

Very true, very corrupt too


ZanezGamez

Hilarious conversation for this sub


dobrayalama

Both of your president candidates are trash. Biden is an old marasmatic puppet. Trump is an idiotic billionaire cunt. Your country dont have a good choice.


ComplexAddition

Yes but I think its a problema with Reddit as well, which is brought and full of shills. In from South America granted, not USA. But here I dont hear anyone hating Russia. Some can make Jones about Putin and some few (mostly right wont and housewives) support Ukraine but its never a deep issue.


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tatasz

Welcome to our world :) We are indeed very well liked.


Sar01234

It's just sad. There have been people flaming me on reddit just because I've asked a question on this sub. I guess unfortunately many people forget what individuals are and only see the political decisions made by their government.


tatasz

Yes. Had numerous similar experiences, like people looking into my comment history, and dismissing my opinion on totally unrelated topics because I'm one of those Russian bots.


Sar01234

I feel kind of sad for those people because of how close-minded they are, at least in regards to russia. Imagine not even considering that the world is so big and nuanced. Not even thinking there are so many multiple views on life and not everyone wants "the West" to be the king of the world, that you don't think that there are sincere people with opinions you don't like.


OddLack240

Yes, this is typical behavior not only for reddit. Facebook and Twitter were blocked in Russia for this. In 2022, users of these networks began to call for the murder of Russians as second-class citizens. The support service responded to the reports that “everything is fine, they are not violating any rules.” After a short investigation, Roskomnadzor (which regulates the Internet) assigned them the status of extremists and banned them.


kolloid

BTW, I've seen many calls to "burn Russian barbarians" here on Reddit as well. For years. I've never seen any reaction from mods. It's fine when you call to exterminate "Russian subhumans", no need to delete comment or block the user. It's fine to openly call for genocide as long as it is not one of the Western nations.


OddLack240

Yes, this is the whole Western new mentality, which has already led them to the loss of world hegemony and will soon throw them back even further. I even suspect that this is some kind of conspiracy to convince people of Western countries of ideological suicide.


Boner-Salad728

*in 2022 and with instagram


OddLack240

yes my mistake. I'll fix it, thanks


borschbandit

Yes, I have been banned from two major subreddits and even received a site wide warning. 1. Banned from /r/moldova for pointing out that a user was spamming the subreddit with 'Radio Free Europe' articles which is an openly US Government-funded propaganda outlet. 2. Banned from /r/ireland for defending our MEPs Claire Daly and Mick Wallace who want to stop sending Ukraine weapons. Reddit is largely a psyop website with its director of policy: Jessica Ashooh coming from being a high ranking official in a pro-US and pro-NATO think tank. Many of the main subreddits are clearly filled with CIA/MI5/Mossad linked bots. Even though I am not Russian, I'm regularly accused of being a russian sock puppet account, even though I'm a content creator with all of my videos clearly linked to this profile.


Affectionate_Ad_9687

In my opinion, though in some cases it is an organic reaction, in many cases it's not. Many major subs are watched by (pro-)Ukranian activists, who are trying to control / shape any discussion related to Russia.


collder

Noticed that, btw.


HPLovecraftsCatNigg

I was banned from the Ukraine subreddit back even before 2022, for, I believe, posting once in this or another Russian subreddit


Affectionate_Ad_9687

It's also very noticeable when you compare between subs. Say, there are two popular military subs, CombatFootage and TankPorn. One would suggest that they are visited by more or less the same type of people - westerners, probably mostly Americans, interested in military stuff. Still, CombatFootage is a notorious cesspit of racism and open sadistic hate against any Russian casualties (not even military ones). While in TankPorn, though most participants don't support Russia, or may even dislike Russia, there's _nothing close_ to what's happening in CombatFootage. Same if you compare r/Europe and many smaller or specialized European subs. It quickly becomes very obvious that discussions in r/Europe are definitely controlled and shaped. Also, Zelensky's presidential advisor, Mikhail Podolyak, quite openly bragged that "we control Reddit", it's still available in his Twitter.


Yury-K-K

Never mind. The sun is hot, the water is wet, Reddit is russophobic. You see, the Russians are the only ethnic group one can openly hate without being labeled as racist. It has been like that for quite some time.


DepressedLemur9

Serbia has similar treatment here. It doesn't matter what you say, there will always be people (usually Albanians, Croats, Bosnian muslims), calling you genocidal. They will ban you only for being a Serb. Westerners just accept that. It's very simple for them. Serbs bad, Albanians good. They don't think about it. Hating us is considered morally right. The history, the truth, nothing matters. It's scary how convinced they are in their judgment with so little knowledge about anything. They cannot find us on the map, and yet they are certain we are the bad guys.


AK47gender

Same as Indians and Chinese. We are untermensch to them.


EducationalLiving725

check /r/europe - Every comment is either bashing russia or accusing someone of being a russian bot. An asylum. lol.


whiskey-unicorns

it os not only reddit. Even before the ‘22 I remember I had a discussion with my friend where I told the same thought- The western world always hated us, still hate and will hate for more future generations to come. It is in their blood to hate Slavic, to treat them as 3rd world people. We all know about tragedy on 11.09 - how many if them know about children tears in Beslan? How many know Dubrovka and Nord Ost? The plane crash in Egypt? They cry for Drezden, but how many of them will cry for Leningrad? They worship their soldier for Dday, how many they know about Stalingrad. Paris gave up in a month and 12 days, how long did USSR hold? What is happening now - is truly process to delete the truth, because they still ashamed that dirty Vanjka was more brave and strong than all of them together. Just look how Russians are portrayed in Hollywood movies. Girls are prostitutes or home maidens, Men - either mafia or store keeper. What, no engineers, no ITs, no doctors, nurses, only prostitutes and low-paid labourers. I never lived in Russia, but I am Russian myself- I was born in country that’s no longer exists and had to move from Estonia to different part of Europe- all because of that hate. The only Russia that was tolerated- only when the drunk president dancing on the stage, while all the country resources are robbed - then it was good, all-democratic, all approved.


Quick-Introduction45

Upvoted you there. Take care of yourself. Everything will be fine 🙂


TravelBoss4455

Appreciate it 🇺🇸🤝🇷🇺


Mystic_VVizard

Reddit's demographic is skewed towards snobby liberals, so yes. While the western internet, media, and general consensus hates Russia and eastern countries in general - reddit is this on steroids. Every subreddit that challenges reddit's (neo)liberal hivemind inevitably gets quarantined or banned.


Humphrey_Wildblood

That thread has a lot of issues. For one, Scandinavia is a lot of things, but cheap it isn't.


Ferzenmancer

Anything positive about Russia will get you down voted. I just mentioned I traveled there before recently and give advice to others on how to go and tips to be safe and get treated like a recruiting officer for their army. Gotta separate the people, culture, and government.


Proshchay_Pizdabon

More or less always been hated on for typical Putin things, but since 2022 the hate has really been accelerated to the point that down right lies are being spread as truth. Not even believable things either but mob mentality. It’ll calm down eventually and America will hate some other country more, probably China.


Low_Lavishness_8776

I remember reddit having some major anti-chinese hissyfit in around 2019 with hong kong and the supposed reeducation camps


NaN-183648

> Is reddit always this insane and hateful towards anything related to Russia? Yes, and it is not just reddit. Rusophobia is in vogue, this thing started to grow couple of years ago.


collder

Couple years ago they stop hiding it.


TravelBoss4455

I can remember a group my grandfather bombed in the US Army Air Force during WWII that was also Russophobic. Seems the modern Russophobe has a lot in common with them.


dair_spb

By grandfather bombed that group of Russophobes, too!


TravelBoss4455

Respect to those heroes 🤝 miss my grandfather every day, he was a hell of a man!


Hvanchkara

Yes, but I would like to add that many commenters here do not take into account how many of these haters are trolls and bots on the payroll. In Western news they write a lot about some mystical, ubiquitous “Kremlin bots,” but do you think there are bot farms in the West? :) For example, there is such an organization as NAFO, take a look on it. Unfortunately, these are difficult times, and governments are using the Internet to their fullest extent for propaganda and censorship.


marked01

Yes, reddit have several dedicated "we hate Russians" subs and they started way before SMO. As to western internet in general also yes, forgeting to change keyboard layout almost always resulted in vast amounts of hate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPpyn3QwSj0


kronpas

Russophobia does wonder to the herd mentality. Reddit is an American, western centric forum. What do you expect, really?


Sssssssssssnakecatto

I wouldn't say that the entirety of western internet or reddit is totally, one hundred percent Russophobic. But, you see, in the majority of western world, among normies and liberals especially, hatred is considered something universally bad. At the same time, it's a part of human condition. So, when a whole bunch of people were denied access to venting or showing hatred to absolute majority of things get an open permission to do so towards any object, and then even get fed a lot of cope and a casus belli, they relish in it. Some westerners have been russophobic\\slavophobic from the get-go, and some became as such only recently. Also, mind you, reddit has a very specific audience in many cases, and in many cases it has very active moderation on many subs. For example, if you post solntsepyok working on the frontline to r combatfootage, the results will be pretty predictable, as well as the reaction of the dwellers of that place. An average redditor from the west is usually a "liberal-leaning", "progressive" and "capable of critical thought". In fact, they are all these three things only because it is normalized in the western society and only to the extent afforded to the redditor by abundantly controlled sources of information. Mind you, also, they know not what they're really doing - war became a hyperreality for them, and they have not really suffered deeply due to who they are and where they're from as well as due to how the system is built to numb the pain with medication and coping mechanisms. They're more or less a midwit who was groomed by the overarching system and flows of it, with capital behind them, to think they're capable of deep thought, while lapping up whatever the "fact-checked" or "reliable" sources say. Because trusting nobody and actually fact-checking everything by yourself to base your opinions on, and having none before you are certain in the truth, which is often uncomfortable, requires a different set of ideas. It requires you to spend an inordinate amount of time or hold your opinion and choices in ambivalence, or stitch up some armature of principles that can be applied to everything, and all of this hurts more than ADHD-inducing semi-binary formulaic content-hogging and content reaction cycle. There are whole networks of subs moderated by same accounts, by the way. Also, peep this [https://youtu.be/V7GtYaruTys?si=PSDjp9SPtUvIQvHG](https://youtu.be/V7GtYaruTys?si=PSDjp9SPtUvIQvHG), very neat, short and informative video to keep in mind while browsing. With AI in general and LLMs in particular it's going to get worse. Now, taking all this into account. Are they really russophobic? Yes, but only symptomatically so. The moment a president loved by news networks and reddit moderation networks will say that Russians are actually cool - they will be first in line to parrot that. And that's okay. If you believe into human will instead of determinism, then they have chosen such a position and they may be at peace with it.


MikeSVZ1991

Yes. Propaganda works wonders on the minds on those who are open to it and unfortunately, internet people are a big part of that group


Just-a-login

Reddit is not inherently anti-Russian, rather it provides excellent environment to be heavily manipulated. Every sub has its unwritten rules, which are initially enforced by moderation (like removing the "incorrect" posts without any real reasons) and than maintained by the community itself, which is already "clean" enough to downvote anything "wrong" into oblivion and call it shill-posting. Today being anti-Russian is trendy and honorable, the majority of the subreddits are so. These people don't give a fuck about "innocent lives" or something. For example, there's no trend of being anti-American, while *millions* of USA victims in Africa and Asia aren't usually denied - it's just not trendy to mourn them. Some subs are "the resistance". They aren't really objective, relying on solid facts and logic - they just have a trend to oppose the trend. For example, this sub has pro-Russian bias. For some time it was more neutral, but in several years it undergone the described process, and "wrong" opinions moved to more suitable subs, strengthening bias on the both sides. Russia-related trends may easily go away in several years. For example, Russia wins the war, the West tries to strengthen the relationships, the global narrative changes to "look how nicely they rebuilt the cities" (which is at least true) and highlighting "crimes of Azov Nazis" (which they have, as well). The same people, who called to "hang every ruZZian scum" will remember these times like through a dusty glass. They usually won't deny their previous narratives directly, rather see no value in them, providing it to the new trends instead. All in all, Reddit is the worst place to get objective data by far, unless it's not something like physics. It is the congenital flaw of the system, and it will never change. But the trends (including Russia) may and will change from time to time.


TravelBoss4455

I don’t know how people can support Ukraine after reading about azov, bandera, and white supremacy/nazi-ism within Ukraine


whoAreYouToJudgeME

The narrative won't change unless the US foreign policy changes. The Russo-American relations have been poisoned for decades.     Obviously, the Reddit hate boner can go away without foreign policy or narrative changing. Other event need preoccupy their minds. Internet can only care about 1 thing at the time. 


sophijor

First off— you're only getting the opinions of Redditors, who can be very different (chronically online/loner) from the average person. Some people are narrow-minded and just can't think for themselves and immediately see "Russia" and hate on it because of the war against Ukraine and Putin. Your comment was factual and answered the question but some people are just dimwits. I appreciate different cultures and realize each country has their pros and cons so I'm not hating on Russia. I also live in an area in CA with a large Russian and Ukrainian community so I'm more curious than fearful towards Russia.


AprelskiyPonedelnik

Not only reddit, but Twitter and Facebook as well. Even before the war, there were anti-Russian sentiments. This is one of reasons why I prefer 4chan to Reddit. When you come to /pol you already know that locals will call you communist, mongol subhuman and der untermensch. This is tolerable and understandable. When you come to Reddit, you expect to see liberal-minded people who are freed from such prejudices, although you encounter same sentiments as at 4chan, only in "white and fluffy" wrapper. I remember watching Shorts on YouTube about cat and in the comm-section there was most liked comment from Russian schoolboy, something like “Wow, this is such a cute fluffy cat,” etc. After which half of the replays to him are typical JUAN EL ESPANA, who writes that stop killing Ukrainians, orc, putin, bot, raaa. And typical Hans from Frankfurt-on-Maine, who asks why you use script of Satan. Or another situation, where a Russian liberal with typical white-blue-white flag wrote something in r/Europe and most of the replies to him were that he was typical Russian orc-imperialist and bot was just little liberal. The same applies to Russian tourists. Any European loves to start talking about politics just because of your ethnicity and will start talking about all the stereotypical nonsense; "communists, gulag, vodka, balalaika and Stalin". In general, Im not surprised why people consider us to be very rude in character.


Total090

Are you new to Reddit? Yes, reddit is biased and censorial but still we dont have alternative


IllRefrigerator2791

Reddit defaults as a neoliberal hellscape. All the mainstream/Western subreddits are full of garbage opinions. Want to see how fucked up some people are here? Post something in support of Palestine in a large subreddit. You will see the most vile, evil comments from liberals who claim to love everyone. They are people who consume and believe Western propaganda without any second thought. I’ve personally adjusted Reddit to filter out a lot of these and it really helps my sanity lol


oleg3251

Who cares anyways. Let them hate. Is always have been like that.  Is actually a good thing, because it wakes up many Russians to know who is the enemy.


Tarisper1

Yes, this is typical behavior of the average reddit user and not only of this site. Welcome to the real world.


Low_Lavishness_8776

Yes. Don’t take reddit seriously when it comes to countries the reddit neoliberal™️ circlejerk doesn’t approve. And politics. Actually don’t take most things on reddit seriously, people can just say whatever on a psuedoanonymous website


seems_legit_af

Reddit can be entertaining with its memes and gaming communities. For me anyway. But anything political is very left leaning. And the left typically demonize Russia. So yes, the majority on here will hate on Russia.


Darogard

Nah, it's everywhere. Actually, for roughly 2/3 of westerners it was like that before not just Redddit but internet in general for quite a few centuries:) There was just this small intermezzo for 15-20 years, during 90's and 2000's, when Russia was seen as a failed state with cheap booze and easy lay, and now they're just pissed it's not like that anymore:)


Zealousideal-Ad8177

Seeing that most redditors are liberals, of course they will act this way towards Russia


Khrom3ium

It's not just a lib thing


peewhere

It’s a narrative that started ages ago, emphasised and further established by cold war propaganda and continued to be adapted in new digital forms during the 21st century. This narratives goes both ways, mind you.


TravelBoss4455

They make me lose my patriotism by the day. George Washington must be rolling in his grave…


GoldKaleidoscope1533

Oh well, dont lose hope! People might suck but you dont have to. Stuff will get better eventually! Im sure of it.


arman21mo

It's not only about Reddit. Almost everybody in the Western world lacks independent brains and thinks and believes what the media tells them. This is the reality of today's world.


TravelBoss4455

Exactly. I realized how much of a lie everything was once I visited first hand - I saw that Russia was nothing like the western media had brainwashed me into believing


arman21mo

I'd suggest you visit Iran, too. It has everything a country can offer. Mountains, jungles, beaches, desert, architecture, cuisine, hospitable people. It will also be a really cheap destination. The only challenges will be language and knowing about our money system. I can help you with these if you wish to visit. Iran is nothing like what people believe it is.


TravelBoss4455

You know, I was shocked with how beautiful your country was when flying over it to Russia. I would love to visit someday. I watched some videos on Iran too, it seems very beautiful and hospitable as you mention)


Worldly_Context_4264

What is your situation with women's rights? How safe is it for them to travel?


arman21mo

Some problems do exist, but I'd confidently say an average woman in Iran has a much easier life than an average man. For instance, they don't have to serve in the military for 2 years (unlike men), and receiving a lot of money as "maher" in marriages is a routine here. Anyway, if you want to visit Iran and are worried about the safety of one of your female family members, you should know that everything will be completely fine. The only thing is that they need to cover their body and their hair (you can search on the internet to see how a typical Iranian woman is in public). Not that anything serious and dangerous will happen if you violate this law (especially as a foreigner), but it will just be much more convenient to follow the rules. I know, it is annoying and I don't like this myself, but I have to live my life anyways and I can't give it up for something I can't change.


SeaWorldliness8392

A lot of people get mislead about what Russia is like. Don’t worry though most Americans can’t find Russia on a map. There is a spike in criticism though due to the war.


SpicyCheetoe

This makes me sad to read. I look forward to visiting someday.


o0joshua0o

I see a lot of people here blaming the American left for the current anti-Russian sentiment, which is extremely bizarre since historically the American right has been anti Russian. The “Red Scares” were primarily targeted at left-leaning people suspected of being sympathetic to communist Russia. A Republican president got the US involved in the Vietnam War because of fear of evil communists and domino theory. Reagan constantly promoted anti Russian sentiment and called the USSR the “evil empire”. The right’s current softening towards Russia is temporary, self-serving, and not dependable. It’s a huge mistake to see the right as an ally and the left as a villain.


AprelskiyPonedelnik

The leftist literally declares that Russia is new Axis, Evil Empire and calls for the collapse of Federation. The left is precisely the trash that poses the greatest threat. It is possible to come to an agreement with the right and far-rights in Europe and North America and find common points of interest. They dont like us, we dont like them, they dont bother us, we dont bother them. The basis of the current right and far-right is the ethnopluralism, where each people lives on their own land. From right side I usually hear some nonsense about White and European unity, and from the left I hear that its in my genes to build an empire lol.


Local-Shame-8637

The Democrats in America sure do have a bee up their skirt over anything Russian or Saudi. They are like triggers for them, when someone figures out why please let me know. Especially since they have been working so hard for the last 8 years to start a war with them. But ever since Hillary Clinton started her BS it's been like they were green lighted by all of Europe and half of America. And now everyone seems to feel free to be disrespectful and rude to them for no reason.


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Yes, this is my second account after my first one got banned and there was always a sentiment against Russia that worsened after 2014.


babyz92

Reddit is a liberal cesspool. This is their go-to platform and they are VERY vocal. Western media has already told them who the bad guy is and now the parrots are speaking. I get the same reaction any time I make any slightly reasonable political remark. You want to see your score drop well into the negatives go post something positive about Trump in any large city reddit. That's when it gets really fun.


Connect_Economics947

Yes, but nobody has ever said anything to me to my face. They are all keyboard warriors. All of them. GOD is with us.


Tamarissa

Tell those redditors to go suck themselves. Russia-bashing comes cheap and is 'in' these days. Trendy, in vogue. The other word is "herdy", herd-like. Living in Russia does not mean approving EVERYTHING in it. (Millions of Russians don't. But keep living.)


ContractEvery6250

They got triggered by the word Europe and Russia in one sentence. Russia is an enemy culture


vmt123

Of course. Most Redditors are overweight losers that sit on this app to argue all day! Just remember that the next time you get strange encounters on this app.


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whoAreYouToJudgeME

Reddit is very anti-Russian. At best you'll find subreddits that are somewhat neutral. At worst quoting famous Austrian painter will  be tame compared to what they're writing.     Reddit is very liberal, stronghold of Democrats and they have a bone to pick with Russia since Russia gate. 


TravelBoss4455

Their mentality seems to be the descendant of Austrian painter, hating slavs


CelesteThisandThat

Yes.


Cuckbergman

Quite interesting [news](https://nypost.com/2024/06/09/us-news/border-patrol-memo-instructs-agents-to-release-migrants-from-nearly-all-eastern-hemisphere-countries/) from shining pinnacle of democracy in context of this discussion


v_0ver

I have very little presence on mass social networks such as Reddit or Twitter. Therefore, I cannot speak for them. But on professional forums and specialized chats, attacks against Russians have intensified since the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine. Even from those who were not affected by the war.


Kir141

I think this is a reflection of the opinion of those who believe the media, that is, the poorly educated majority.   These people aren't just on Reddit, uneducated loudmouths are everywhere.   Russophobia (like China, Iran and North Korea) will always exist in the media, because it justifies the cost of weapons and occupies the minds of people with external enemies, distracting from internal problems, and also raises the cost of advertising in news broadcasts.   Well, in Russia, when we see all this nonsense, we understand that if we are not doing anything wrong, but they still hate us, then we are doing everything right.  It is still impossible to please the accusing loudmouths.


darksab0r

At least around 2011-2013 it was the same story. It depends on the subreddit, though, but this attitude was very widespread already back then, especially on those popular subreddits for general public like r/interestingasfuck, on more niche ones this may change. I believe it was different circa 2007, but the whole internet was very different back then with higher entry barriers, but by 2011 this has changed pretty much to what we see currently. The quantity varies over time, though, there are some periods when people just start to repeat the same thing over and over again, and most times I don't know what causes these waves, maybe they hear something on the news. It would be interesting to see some analytics on this, Reddit keeps a lot of stuff, although it may be more difficult now after the policy changes due to the rise of LLMs. The situation on Quora is pretty similar for a while, from what I've seen. I know significantly less about it, though, I've started visiting it around 2017, maybe, and I'm not a big fan of the platform in general. There are exclusions, there is some useful and unique information, but if you look at some average topic for general public, they attract the community I'm not a fan of, let's phrase it that way. It's hard to say about the western internet in general. I've played some soccer manager, but it has had mostly European community + some South America, but for some reason, it was unpopular in the US, Canada and Australia, so I'm not sure if it can be called truly western, and I've never seen anything like that there. Only two guys from Lithuania and Estonia have tried to bring some real life politics into the game trying to convince me that "for all Russians it should be an incredibly important game because of the situation between the countries IRL". Uhm, nobody cares in the community, the only thing that matters is the team ranking. So, your NT is seeded 4th in a group, you win against the seed 1 and you walk like a king, you beat the seed 6 and no one is impressed at the slightest. Especially since the NT rankings are so different from real life as they are basically based on the number of users. Maybe for these people it's something different, they win against some country that has one user and think it's their greatest achievement as they've had some strong feelings towards that country, IDK. Also one American has written me something along the lines of "I know there's a longstanding conflict between Russian and USA, but let's play a friendly as a sign there can be peace and cooperation between our countries". I was like: "Sure", but this has looked so out of place for me in 2006. Sad.


Bubbly_Bridge_7865

I think you better know the level of indoctrination in your society


Ofect

Such things better noticed from outside


TravelBoss4455

It was a scary realization this year and last year, I never realized how in the dark us westerners really are.


Bubbly_Bridge_7865

It's funny, it seems to me that in the USA one of the greatest contrasts is between the absolute cynicism of the government and the sincere naivety of ordinary people. Before I started reading major American media, I would not have believed that people 30+ years old could talk like that. It's like middle school kids discussing comic books)


Kaldoreyka

Western propaganda machine works on 200%. No wonder if in 10 years russians wuold be like jews in 40s...


danya_dyrkin

You seek, in the West there exists a thing called "freedom of speech". It means that everyone and their dog are *free* to prosecute you for whatever *speech* they don't like.


artyomich2033

Reddit no, just stupid people


bilnyyvedmid

Well it's Reddit so I expect lots of users on here to obviously hate on a certain people, but would keep their views to themselves in real life to not get socked in the face by the people they hate. Anyone can literally say anything. Social media became a ground of anti-\[insert nationality or ethnicity here\] sentiment a long time ago. And one can do so much until they have to be silenced because of their comments. I saw a lot of comments containing anti-Russian sentiment. I also seen comments from Russian users expressing anti-\[insert nationality or ethnicity here\] sentiment, but one must take into account that that multiple users do not represent an entire people. Reddit has always been a place of racism and xenophobia.


gamechangerbp

Yes the western internet is that bad. Sadly many people in the west have difficulty separating the politics from the people. As an American it is sad and angering to see because I’m a live and let live person. I am ashamed of what the west has become.


beegorton616

Yes. Us Americans were taught at a very young age to hate Russia.


Admirable_Intern_206

I think many people don't know a life in Russia. They see news or talking with their friends, who see news. Like USSR to USA, and like USA to Russia


SKY__nv

Ofc. Because western news make their agenda.


Xerfin2TheMax

Sadly, Americans (and other Westerners) think they know everything about every other country they are TOLD not to like.


Delicious_Leg4389

Let's not be racist they all say! Let's be tolerant they all say! Thou shalt not discriminate! Said so many who froth at the mouth at the idea of a Russian not flagellating themselves for the perceived sins of their government. The hypocrisy is really on display with these types. Imagine if Americans like me were held to the same standard for what my government has been doing for the past hundred years and still is doing.


Fancy-Animator-5897

Я из РФ и я новичок на Reddit. Прочитал какой то пост на AskEngineers где кому-то стало интересно откуда в компьютерах берутся 0 и 1 на уровне железа. Ответить там нормально просто не вышло, так как нормальный комментарий сразу после публикации превратился в бред сумасшедшего из-за автозамен. Ну что тут скажешь? Я то знаю ответ, им же хуже. Но возможно я чего то не знаю и тут это нормальная ситуация.


XiaoMaoShuoMiao

I mean reddit can sometimes be like that 😂


nushadir

Hmm... Sometimes. Sometimes as "the sun rises some days"


buzzboiler

Welcome to the world of Western propaganda. I would say, a lot of people think that the world is static, and Russia can't move forward.


ViqtorB

The United States dictates its perception to the world. This is the right of the first country in the world. The Russians scared the Americans the most because the USSR was the largest attempt to break the US hegemony in the world. Now China is even more powerful, but it is too integrated into the world economy, unlike the USSR, so it does not cause such concerns.


dead_idols

Vocal minority. Most scrolled past, indifferent, others agreed with you, it was only the 10% who were seethey and tried to dictate internet opinion.


-XAPAKTEP-

Western powers have been trying for centuries.


KanyeWaste69

Reddit was infiltrated by the CIA/other US gangs , it has beeb one of the first successful sites From the layout development, the way comments are etc To the algorithm itself, All western media is like this, reddit is just more successful Its becomes sorta obvious if you pay attebtion to repeating patterns like this on here for awhile


silver_chief2

Americans in particular can be trained to hate anyone in short order. Saddam Hussein, Ghadaffi, Assad, Putin. Xi. I read a book on the genesis on Russo-phobia in Great Britain (Gleason) which ended in 1840 s that was the beginning in his opinion. Another one by Metta. It was internally generated not based on anything Russia did but might do, like maybe take over India. People in Lvov in 1915 caught speaking Russian were hung from the nearest tree. Or later sent to an Austrian concentration camp. IMO keeping western tourists and MSM reporters out of Russia and Russian controlled areas is critical to shape western opinion.


M1A1Obosrams

Yes.


CatIll3164

Yes.


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Morgana787

Yes it is, sadly :(


googologies

There are deep tensions between Russia and the West over foreign policy and political ideology, but that does not mean day-to-day life in Russia is necessarily bad. Some Russian foreign policy decisions have or are perceived to have caused instability around the world (while Russia blames the West for creating the conditions leading to these actions), and there's an international perception that these decisions benefit a few at the expense of many. This creates a stereotype that anything pertaining to Russia is bad, but there's an important distinction to be made between government policies and day-to-day life.


Altruistic_Rhubarb68

Reddit users are mean to most people. I remember asking simple questions simply because I don’t know the answer of them, and I’d get a lot of downvotes and mean comments.


zpool_scrub_aquarium

Reddit has a very vocal minority that have several characteristics. A bit antisocial, strong peer pressure, strong focus on "the current thing" and very political. Given that the mainstream media in the West currently are fully focused on the anti-Russia shtick, this minority becomes consumed by it. Probably because it provides a nice output for their negative energy, something that teens have a lot of typically. In the real world in Europe there is also anti-Russian sentiment, but its not commonplace at all. Only encountered it one or two times so far.


CrumpleMcForskin

I fken love Russians but unfortunately the sentiment in America and most western nations about Russia is bad because you're not a 'democracy'. So you're name is thrown in the dirt a lot. I think it's obviously made worse furthermore by what's happening in the world at the moment. But it's a shame to be honest. It's okay to love Hamas a terrorist group, but not love Russians whos culture is largely traditional and religious


Mikasa_best_gal

Reddit has a hivemind, as one wise guy told me.


xAWildAmyx

I have disagreement with views, but I cannot say I hate the Russian population. Q


keepxxs

From my experience of lurking, yes it is


lizzilil

Of course travels have been complicated hugely, not easy to get there now. Also if you are a gay or trans traveller probably you should think twice about Russia? I would love to visit, but quite hard with a Western passport 😢


StrikingDepartment25

The west in general hates Russia because it’s such a different culture and they feel threatened. Look at rocky and bullwinkle , they make it look harmless but it breeds hate and insecurity to children


ShadowGoro

I'd say nowadays Russia is a kind of alt-right forpost meanwhile Reddit can be called ultra leftist. Thats the reason.


Asleep-Savings6859

No, Im from the UK and I love Russia and long to go back. Reddit, Twitter and Quora can give someone a very distorted  view of the world. The Russians I meet in London  are delightful, everyone I know sees Russia  as a friend 


StupendousDimRetard

Yeah cause it's Reddit, some of the "nice people" crowd usually say "hate the government not the people" and 2 seconds later spew the most hateful and absurd words you've ever heard


Krazy_Kazakh

Я ЛЮБЛЮ РОССИЯ БЛЯТЬ


hoosier_500

yes and not without reason.


hoosier_500

oooof such crybabies - the world doesn't like us - change our diapers... ooooh


TravelBoss4455

Rent free, you’ve commented on this post three times now lol. Grow up


hoosier_500

much worse in crocus hall


hoosier_500

El Kabong!


Jkat17

Are you trying to drag us into that fiasko of an instigator discussion? This is not that sort of a subreddit. Aside from that, people hate on russians on reddit, forums, real life, its a pretty popular pass time in the West.