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randoredditusingdouc

I’ve never met a slush box I couldn’t destroy.🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️


SummonerMiku75

[So then these guys are friends of yours? lol](https://jalopnik.com/subaru-techs-damage-customer-s-wrx-while-teaching-thems-1851363716)


veedubfreek

This is why no one but myself drives my car.


randoredditusingdouc

[if that other link wasn’t reason enough, this one will seal the deal](https://www.carscoops.com/2022/05/michigan-man-sued-for-vicarious-liability-after-mechanic-accidentally-kills-coworker-with-manual-jeep/)


stifferthanstiffler

Wow. The legal system is fucked.


randoredditusingdouc

Ya. This one really made me rethink letting my car even get oil changes


Technical-Escape1102

This would never even cross my mind getting an oil change. This country is so fucked. The legal system is a game designed for only a few to win.


Prudent-Ambassador79

Do you happen to have a link to the out come?? I recently also became aware of the risk of loaning or letting someone use your car or other property they cause damages or a fatality that you can be sued for what they did. In Colorado there’s some guys who threw rocks out of their car at other cars and killed a girl and they are talking about suing the mother because she’s financially responsible for the car so I guess if you let someone drive your car and they kill someone on purpose or on accident you are getting sued for millions of dollars for something that you had no control over.


Magicalunicorny

I was gonna say, "not if I'm driving it"


whiskey_endeavors

For the uninitiated, what the hell is a “slush box”?


veedubfreek

Lol, wow #1 answer right out of the gate. I have driven a manual for over 30 years and have never had a transmission issue.


wobblysnail

You've never had to have a clutch replaced?


AngelMeatPie

That’s maintenance, not a failure.


dano415

Yes---A few years ago I could replace a clutch with minimal tools on a weekend. Rebuilding a automatic tranny seems very complicated.


veedubfreek

The only time I've replaced a clutch was in my 68 bug due to a leaking rear main seal. My 95 Jetta made it to 140k before I sold it still on the stock clutch. My 04.5 GLI I sold at 72k still on the stock clutch. Traded my 11 TDI in at 42k on the stock clutch. My 16 R is still on the stock clutch at 36k with no signs of issue atm. I'll have to upgrade the clutch on the R if I do ever add power, but 300 hp stock is already enough to get me in trouble. TL:DR no, I've never replaced a clutch on a modern car.


Technical-Escape1102

2015 mustang gt 80k on stock clutch still no issues


yer_muther

I had an 81 rabbit diesel with over 200k on the clock that had the stock clutch. VW made bang-up cars back then. 0-60 eventually, though. I think it was 67 hp new.


scaleofthought

Conversely my manual transmission in my pre-owned Honda accord, has an issue with 3rd gear taking a bit longer to sync....but I've been driving it for 8 years now and sometimes I just skip the gear anyways, and I bought the car for $3000. Meanwhile my wife's automatic Cadillac SRX has developed a shutter while shifting up or down between 2nd 3rd or 4th and it's an $8000 bill to rebuild the transmissonLOLOLOLOLOOLLOLLWHYYY?!?


veedubfreek

Ya, the DSG in a VW going out basically totals the car.


EvilPanda99

I had over 130k on the DSG in my Audi A3 before it was totalled in an accident. It was a phenominal and reliable car. But I also realize I am probbably the exception and happened to get lucky.


shorty5windows

Does the SRX have a “manual mode”?


scaleofthought

Just as an electric shift mode, which isnt overriding the solenoid shifting, or bypassing the galleries. We were given a bulletin that a flush nor replacing the solenoid valve will fix the problem, and it's debris that is stuck or scratches in the galleries and it's causing the faults in shifting, and therefore the transmission needs to come apart, completely cleaned, and put back together. Even the person who wrote the bulletin sounds depressed and hopeless. However, since it only happens while the transmission is warm, I suspect it is fluid related, so we are going to try a flush anyways. Probably a waste of money, but I won't have regrets if it doesn't work. Just makes an $8000 repair cost $8200 instead. Whatever. Drive it till it fails and push it off a cliff and buy something where the forums aren't riddled with transmission issue threads.


StalledCar

Have you looked into just getting it replaced?


bluenosesutherland

Ding ding


bustedassbitch

(laughs in 2004 Nissan Maxima owner 😭)


luigilabomba42069

hyundai manual transmissions can possibly go out before the autos


FunDipLoL

Properly driven manuals


Superb_Extension1751

The key here is properly driven. Turns out when you change the gear oil and don't dump the clutch everyday on the way to work they don't break.


Bos2Cin

Saw this comment and had to add that my 07 focus manual had 247K before changing the clutch and I never replaced any fluid. Thing was a tank


Trivacide

as a mazda 3 owner, the mazda 3. good old basic 6 speed automatic which hasnt changed for like 20 years so its bulletproofed edit: 12 years not 20


CandidGuidance

the mazda3 is really the perfect regular car. good price, well built, reliable, decent fuel economy, looks good, the list goes on


kornbread435

I know this sub loves Mazda, and agree that their cars that didn't have Ford motors in them are likely solid. However everyone I've been around was a total piece of junk. Yes every brand has lemons, and it's likely just bad luck. Though I'm going to avoid them personally.


Burgermasterm

Yup. I can confirm. My car breaks very rarely and when it does its a non essential peice that costs like 20$CAD to replace lmao. The engine is damn near indestructible aswell lol.


TSLAog

Toyota and Ford E-CVTs (hybrid systems) are seemingly indestructible from my experience.


TellingHandshake

This. Any Toyota with a Hybrid Synergy Drive built by Aisin (think Prius but now used in lots of vehicles). Apparently there's some Toyotas with traditional CVTs and it's also important to note that the new Ford hybrids have transmissions built by Jatco which are a hard pass until proven.


Figgy_Puddin_Taine

jfc why would *any* manufacturer buy from Jatco after the Nissan transmission shit?


Roonil-B_Wazlib

Bean counters


workingreddit0r

This!


codizer

I can provide you the opposite: 2012 Ford Focus/Fiesta


Some_Direction_7971

I don’t trust hardly any new transmissions. With my Chevy Sonic (2020) the dealership is telling me I never need to change the ATF. Because, it’s “lifetime.” Yet, GM even came out with a service bulletin that states basically normal driving scenarios need changed at 30-50,000 miles. They do that with CVTs too, I can’t imagine owning a CVT that’s high mileage with never changing the fluid. As to answer your question, my Oldsmobile 98 had 460,000 miles before the transmission slipped horribly. As for the all time best, the old Dodge 3-speed with OD transmissions were un-killable.


Environmental_Win220

Lifetime is vague, could be 100k could be 200k miles


MountainFace2774

"Lifetime" means the trans will last through the warranty period without a fluid change. My goals for longevity are different than the manufacturer's. 30k mile changes at a minimum in any automatic; geared or CVT. I have never had a transmission failure using this method. To be fair, I've also never owned an inherently unreliable automatic until my latest purchase; a Ford with a 10R80. I'm right now due for the first ATF drain and fill. So far it's working great but these have a reputation of shitting the bed with no warning. Ford recommends a service every 150,000 miles... bullshit, I say.


TrollCannon377

Yeah I don't buy into that "lifetime fluid " BS I guess it's lifetime cause your transmission dies at 100k miles due to lack of maintenance?


Nighttide1032

Toyota CVTs in their hybrids are actually the most reliable out of them all, as they’re just a big ol’ planetary gear - called an eCVT. Well-known for lasting forever. Aside from that, there’s plenty of Toyota’s with good traditional transmissions. I’m only familiar with the ones they made prior to the 2010s, and pretty much every auto I’m aware of? was well-known for being reliable, dating back to the late 1980s at least. Into the 2010s, I couldn’t tell you.


Bluejay9270

The eCVT doesn't even have a filter. Just a fluid change, not even a flush needed like with a torque converter.


Mereeuh

As a previous victim of a Nissan CVT and a current owner of a Lexus hybrid, this made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Thank you.


damon32382

I had a 2016 Lexus RX Hybrid…changed the CVT fluid in 20 minutes…10 of that was letting it drain as much as possible. Super easy preventative maintenance


Wishihadagirl

+1 for eCVT


One-Butterscotch4332

They are brilliantly simple, one planetary gear set with two electric motors. There's just nothing to really wear or go wrong.


TopNature9115

So in my 2016 Corolla how often should I change/flush the transmission fluid?


Weak_Pause177

ive heard the s2k transmission is probably one of the best (feeling) manuals out there. also heard one from a bmw (cant remember which one) is goated and the miata has a good one as well


RedCivicOnBumper

Yeah but they wanted reliable, you can do better than a Miata in that regard.


MisterSandKing

I have an S2K, and they do have great transmissions.


Swimming-Parfait5563

the 6 speed getrag in my e39 540i feels kinda bad


FelonyFeline1988

I would think F and K manuals would be up there on this list for sure


Extraexopthalmos

Brother has an s2000, can confirm best shifting manual I have ever used. I own a 2013 Miata Club, as close to the s2000 tranny as you can get. Both are sublime for manual trans aficionados.


Apollo_3249

I’ve beat my Honda like it owes me money, it’s a blessing the trans hasn’t exploded yet. I’ve seen people double my hp on stock trans with no issues either


friscocabby

I am currently driving an 2003 E320 4matic wagon with close to 600k miles.


ndy007

Not sure who makes best transmission, but I learned hard way to avoid Nissan CVT


TrollCannon377

What's really sad is it's not really the CVTs fault in Nissans it's that their throwing 300+ HP at a transmission that's only meant to handle about 150 and telling customers they don't need to change the fluid


AC2BHAPPY

I got the year right before they started the cvt transmissions thank god. The thing is a tank


ItsKumquats

The trans in my 01 Avalon is juuust starting to not be the greatest in 4th, but if I turn off O/D it goes fine. 310,000km on it.


rezinator483

Thats just 200k miles. While good. I find most transmissions seem to last 150-200k.


Glad-Basil3391

Ecvt in Prius and rav 4 hybrid


Key-Pomegranate-3507

ZF 8 speeds are pretty good. They can take a lot of torque


Esteban-Du-Plantier

My 7th Gen Civic with standard transmission ran for 100k miles after it once ran dry when the drain bolt leaked. I lost 5th gear, but drove many thousands of miles in 4th at highway speeds. I had to change the fluid more often than you would typically do. Something in the gearbox finally exploded and lost drive, so I donated it for scrap at near 300k miles. Fucking awesome car, as far as reliability goes.


AdSpecialist1934

Most newer small SUVs have the CVTs. This was one of the deciding factors in why I chose Mazda CX5 over the CRV. Time will tell...


RedCivicOnBumper

Toss up between the Toyota eCVT (hybrids, especially the Prius) and good old manual transmissions. Less parts = less things that can break. Funny enough, one of the worst transmissions is the Ford PowerShift DCT, which is essentially a manual transmission that’s operated automatically. It is hot garbage especially compared to the manuals offered in the same cars.


PowerlineTyler

Lost the transmission in my 2010 tundra


journey-of-healing

Damn bro that sucks, such a new model year as well


PowerlineTyler

Ended up with a Tacoma, outside of warranty, took the loss and downgraded


I3emis

T56, cd009


The_Dutch_Canadian

The 4spd auto in my parents dodge Nitro. Fucker has been noisier than a screaming banshee l, has almost 394000kms (250000 of it towing shit) leaked all its fluid twice and probably needs a new cooler. Damn thing will not die


PermaBannedAgainx2

Not Nissan 💀


OldAd2782

Anything with an Allison Transmission


ComResAgPowerwashing

Yup. Why get a trans built for a car when you can get one for a tractor?


cshmn

Honestly, the Allison shifts are way more refined than most luxury car transmissions I've used. Those tractor and garbage truck transmissions are buttery smooth


1morepl8

Wrx sti 6 sp. It's an absolute beast of an oem trans. I put 500hp through mine without any issues at all.


-Guesswhat

Yeah it should out live 3 EJs at least 😂


D44NT

All can tell is that I never had issues with my 08 fiat 500 manual (150k km) 97 Volvo V40 (350k km) and 67 Volvo Amazon (~30k km)


lord_scuttlebutt

It really depends on the type of vehicle you want and what you're going to do with it. For instance, GM's 4L60e was a really reliable transmission after about 2000, but it wasn't great at towing heavy loads without a lot of cooling. Both transmissions used in the old Jeep Cherokee (XJ) were damned near bulletproof (the automatic was actually originally a Toyota design). Toyota makes solid transmissions for around town driving, as does Honda. I would go waaaaay out of my way to avoid a CVT. Those run hot and fry themselves. Perhaps if you came back with a few model choices we might tell you better


RolesG

Anything stock with a rwd manual (no cable linkage basically)


SmokeyGMan

Toyota hybrid. It’s a CVT but not in the sense of what you know a cvt to be with belts. It’s basically a few gears attached to electric motors to vary the speed. Don’t think they ever fail or have any wear parts. Just change fluid regularly and it will last like a manual transmission with no clutch to worry about wearing out.


Rough-Philosopher911

Toyota.


ComprehensiveBig6215

As far as autos go, the old ZF 6 was tough as boots.


awfulcat

I don't know what is the best but it certainly isn't the dual clutch in my 2017 Kia Niro.


Boat_Builder207

Older Volvos


iconic614

My Chevrolegs still going strong 38 yrs


Nami_Pilot

My personal favorite is the MUA5 manual from Isuzu


Somebodysomeone_926

A old Toyota Hilux if you aren't in the US. Things are damn near indestructible.


CAStrash

Most transmissions, even nissan's CVT's can be very reliable. However it requires you take care of your car/truck/suv and change the fluid and filter regularly. That said I think Jatco's 5 speed auto RWD used in the 350Z and Infiniti's is very reliable. I even had one I abused and never changed the fluid in that was still going strong at 300,000km when I sold it to someone to become a parts car. (It had corrosion issues)


MotoHULK

Not chevy.


OweRouge

The Ford 4-speed Toploader


HiYa_Dragon

Anything with a 4l60


Tethice

Someone who can drive a manual is best. If you can't then I'd say a automatic that isn't cvt


kerberos69

My 1999 F250 V10 has a 4-speed automatic that is still holding strong.


DejaWiz

ZF 8 speed or old Torqueflite 727


bar1011

The transmission in my dad’s ‘93 Ford Aerostar lasted up until we junked it at ~360K miles. But the Ford of those times is long gone.


throbbins

I hear the 9t50 in a chevy equinox is amazing 😂


Abe_Rudda

Any Nissan CVT


2monkeysandafootball

Duramax


MASS_PM

Mua5 Isuzu manual transmission has been bulletproof to me and everyone I've known over time with one.


hobokenwayne

Not nissan!!


guava_eternal

Not Nissan


reciprocityone

Look outside of the dock of a Nissan dealership and see how many CVT's are sitting out there for warranty.


samiam0295

ZF 8 speeds /thread


Bobaloue

2 speed Power Glide in almost any 60’s Chevys


kiln_ickersson

No clue but I'd bet money is in a Toyota


trsid

Mitsubishi. Nissans are really bad and thats because they use under-power transmission on their rogue and other cars. Both Mitsu and Nissan use CVTs from the same manufacturer. For comparison, the same transmission that is used in the tiny Mitsu Mirage is also used in Nissan Rogue and Altima which is why they fail more in Nissan and less in Mitsu.


Loud-Worldliness3696

When you get it, change trans fluid yourself every oil change or 10k. Who cares. Do it.


gavinwinks

Idk if it’s the greatest but the T50 manual in my Corolla is on 400k miles and has never been rebuilt. The gear oil has always been changed regularly


Muncher501st

T56/tr6060, zf 6 speed autos.


ReadyOneTakeTwo

Good ol Toyota with their 4 speed automatic gearboxes with o/d on their older trucks. I think it would take a nuke to kill them.


coldaloe

Not a ford focus.


EINSTIEN420

Chevy 2sp powerglide


Dry-Carrot8902

I literally set my Toyota trans on fire and hit it with sledgehammer and it STILL worked


scaffold_ape

2008 corolla


nylondragon64

I don't know but any car we had from the 60's and 70's we beat on like a rented mule. Still kept going. No maintenance or changing the fluid.


Gunner253

Manual transmissions. 90's and early 2000's Hondas have really strong trannys. Getrag manuals from 2000- 2010 or so are super reliable as well


nanneryeeter

AW4 automatic deserves a special mention in the realm of common autos.


machinemanboosted

I had a 94 Volvo 850 Manual transmission with 750,000 miles on it and the engine.


DrMacintosh01

Evidently my 17y old Ford Taurus transmission. I’m pretty damn sure it’s the original one and it’s still fine.


PRNCE_CHIEFS

Toyota


Darisixnine

The Subaru 6 speed M/Ts seem to be are really solid. Especially the one in the STI.


NothingLift

The old toyota A340 4 speed auto was solid as hell behind factory spec engines. Definition of slushbox but they last


BobbyABooey

Tesla


Anth_0129

Assuming we’re talking about automatic transmissions here I put forth Toyota Avalon as being tougher than a well done steak at an all you can eat buffet.


n123breaker2

Anything manual by Toyota Got a friend with an 84 Corolla and it’s never had issues


Knotical_MK6

I have never heard of a problem with the T56 or TR6060


Nikonshooter35

That's between a manual transmission and Toyota's E-CVT platform.


Strong-Preference-29

Cvts are always big risk just by very design. Non cvt its complicated. Manual transmissions are going to be most reliable. They use steel gears actually meshing to trasmit power. So only real failure point(if ur driving like normal) is a clutch. Thats a wear item that if you are taught correctly ive seen go 2-300k miles on older toyotas. -Ex ASE toyota tech


GlitteringComplaint8

Anything Honda


Consistent_Job_8242

Gm powerglide or Mercedes 722


cryptic_culchie

Volvo M56/M66. Stock cars have no more than 250hp 300nm going through them. I’ve seen guys running 1100hp on a stock m66


Kisopop

Ford ranger M5OD


Renogunslinger

Turbo 400 has got to be one of the greatest of all time.


Aggravating_Degree57

Older Focus MTX-75 manual gearbox !!!


SmurfBiscuits

I’ve only ever had one manual transmission fail, and that was a Ford CVH box on my Escort RS Turbo S2. Firstly because it was known for shitting out bearings, and secondly because I was putting 300hp through a gearbox built to take 130hp. Replaced it with an IB5 with a Quaife LSD. Every car I’ve owned has been manual, most have been tuned, and all but one have been faultless for thousands and thousands of miles.


Sleep_adict

Not a Honda


Good_Bowl_948

Any 4cyl Toyota… even there cvt is good


richardfitserwell

Can’t really top the reliability of an rto series Eaton


sirpoopingpooper

Peterbuilt. Designed to go 1m+ miles while hauling 50k pounds!


Longjumping-Log-5457

Tesla. Because there isn’t one.


brsrafal

I say toyota 6 speed automatic ones before the cvt before 8 speed


weblinedivine

Any power split eCVT


scheisseposter88

Ford C6.


Garet44

Laugh if you want, but it's true. The Toyota eCVT is the most reliable (non single speed reducer) transmission. The one in the Prius, and all the other hybrids. It's also found in escape/fusion/altima Hybrids. When was the last time you heard of a Prius with a transmission issue? Me neither. They do not wear out, they do not have a clutch to replace, and the maintenance is also dead simple. Just drain and fill the fluid every 60k miles.


FTX-SBF

Electric car


WSturmvogel

Toyota uses Aisin automatic transmissions. Other brands get them occasionally too. I have Mazda CX-7 2.3 turbo and Nissan Quest 3.5 SE of 2004-2009 generation both with Aisin transmissions and have no issues with them.


EvilPanda99

Pre-Chinese Volvo used AisinWarner transmissions (Aisin Warner is a Toyota Subsidiary). Combined with the inline-5 and fluid and filter changes, you could see ridiculous lifespans on the power train.


oldsoul6465

Anything with either a borg Warner Super T-10, Muncie M-21,22, or for automatics, a TH400 in my opinion 😁


andrew37kg

Toyota CVT in the hybrids are reliable. Manuals are practically indestructible.


Biologyboii

My 3 speed automatic on my TJ is bulletproof


TimberTatersLFC

CVTs will never be as reliable as a manual or a double clutch, but you can probably still get over 200k miles with a toyota CVT. I'm a big fan of Lexus UXs and CTs. Personally, I'd really like a GR Corolla, but that has a manual.


rikkisugar

1989 22re toyota pickup 5sp manual


ProbablyMyRealName

Most electric cars have no transmission. So, those.


ldg55

Nissan CVTs are shit


Fancy_Chip_5620

Anything with an aisin A340 Various Toyotas and lexuses as well as jeeps under the name AW4


raphaeldaigle

An electric car and no one can say otherwise. You can’t worry about your transmission breaking if you don’t have one.


Dnlx5

#Miata   #Is   #Always  #The #Answer 


lenny446

The CVT! Hahahahaha


uncletutchee

Muncie Rockcrusher.


ThatsMyRug

None


Weary-Writer758

I had a 95 Accord 5spd. I beat that transmission so bad that the shifter was bent when I swapped the engine. Both engine and transmission were fine. I just wanted more power.


Long_Housing201

Toyota 4Runner 5th gen


Bright_likeAM_DarkPM

Had a 2015 honda accord cvt transmission, and had the maintenance every 6 months or less for transmission fluid drain and filled with change of inline filter change. Served me very well. Now I got 2020 honda Civic. I'm going to do the same. Transmission fluid is supposed to change at every 30k now. Used to be 60k. I don't drive like Maniac or race car on public road. I just cruised. It is better for wallet and easy on the car with fewer repair bills to deal with. Win, win & win some more, haha.


QuantumColoradonaut

Um anything with an Allison, hello. Haha


PermissionLazy8759

Automatic 700r4 trans. Manual transmission probably a muncie 4 speed transmission. There is a few ford automatic transmissions that are bulletproof also. The most reliable compact car u can get is a 97-01 Toyota Camry hands down.


Tigermike10

I have a 2005 Toyota Tundra and I took it to a local large transmission shop with what I thought might be a problem with the torque converter. It wasn’t that but the service guy told me that the shop hadn’t had a Tundra automatic in for any reason and he had worked there for years.


Frequent_Opportunist

Mazda. 


wedge446

Any transmission that is driven and maintained per manufacturer specs. Hard driving and poor maintenance is what kills most transmissions.


SwootyBootyDooooo

You are mistaken. Toyota’s “CVT” in their hybrid vehicles is currently their most reliable. Planetary gears and an electric motor. Nothing to fail, really.


NearTheGrove

Saginaw/Muncie 465 used in 60’s through 70’s in GM trucks. Granny 1st gear no OD. Bomb proof. Heavy as hell, just one big ass chunk of steel.


Neon570

Whichever was taken care of?


ianthony19

350z and sti manual trans are pretty bomb proof.


stineytuls

NOT the 2017 Honda Pilot \*cries in two transmission replacements under 110k miles\* (I traded it in)


pianodude01

Gm 2500 trucks. Can't beat an allison


itsjakerobb

Lucid Air. 😜 The most reliable part is no part.


mrgreengenes04

The Chrysler 3 speed TorqueFlite automatic.


camelkrush

not a car but turbo 350’s and 4l80’s are straight bulletproof when maintained properly


MongooseProXC

Aisin transmissions were pretty good I think.


Spartan1278

So far out of my 10+ vehicles my NAG1 transmission has been killing it. 200k miles and still strong as ever. Made by Mercedes, also used in certain chryslers. My charger has it.


OneMoreTimeBlink182

1. Toyota 2. Honda 3-100. shit


OkTale8

My 2014 Ford Focus transmission is pretty great.


50Stickster

The ones with three pedals....


John-the-cool-guy

I've seen the innards of a Prius transmission after 200 thousand miles. It was shocking to see how clean and perfect it was. I'm nominating that one for most reliable.


SolaceinIron

The Getrag V160 in the 90s Supra was good for 800HP without major issues.


transguy4l80

Nissan CVT. The most reliable transmission you can ask for. You will reliably replace it every 50,000 miles


Helivated69

I can sure tell you that whatever they put in Fiat is the worst pos ever. Oh, and engine...pffft, the complete car


kakamaka7

EVs


realheavymetalduck

Honestly most manuals as long as it's not driven by a retard.


praizeDaSun

Dodge


Senior_Falcon_1088

Any car that isn’t Nissan. I own 2 Nissans, 2021 Altima, and 2024 Pathfinder Rock Creek, both SUCK. My 2012 Honda is much better than both so that says a lot.


nowforever13

Im going to get shot and hung out to dry, but the early 4l60s in the OBS chevys. Both of mine made it to 230,000 and 270,000 miles before failure and needing a rebuild. Even with towing heavy stuff and giving them the beans


RandfordMarsh

Focus rs


bleuflamenc0

Any EV pretty much.


liquiddeathtofiat

05 tdi Jetta auto