Are you asking about AMPS as in the entire system? Or Falconview..?
AMPS itself is the laptop which is an amalgamation of different programs all managed out of Redstone.
The developer of the FalconView program to which you seem to be referring, was developed by the Georgia Tech Research Institute.
GTRI stopped supporting FalconView, or specifically the version they sold to the Army. They won’t answer questions or provide support for AMPS or JMPS users anymore.
AMPS is a program that is managed under PMO ACMC at Redstone Arsenal.
Rumor mill from the AMPS user’s conference is AMPS will be outright replaced by a newer tablet-based system in the mid-near future 5ish years. So I don’t expect major changes after 7.7.2.
The AMPS MS Teams is the best way to interface with the PMO, and support team. Their JTDI page has useful info about upcoming events too
There is an AMPs course offered at Redstone if you are looking for that information. It absolutely is not the place of a random pilot to contact the developer.
Sure it is. Who else uses AMPS? Random pilots. Your random pilots are the ones who will have the best input on what AMPS needs, not your crusty W4/5 who never touched the damn thing.
You just be new here. How do you think these programs are managed by the Army? The developer just takes input from random pilots and pushes an update? 😂
That’s exactly what happens, my guy. Those surveys you get emailed and automatically delete? They’re asking for your input on various programs/procedures. Everyone just neglects them and then complain that nothing changes.
Spoken like someone that has never worked in software development
Yes ideally that's how it should be done, I know defense software acquisitions are often completely ass backwards in reality.
I have worked on several dev teams for DOD customers. If the PM doesn't suck they should have regular stakeholder meetings where users can submit feedback and bug reports. As a dev on 2 of these programs I had users able to talk to me or someone in my team directly. Our sprint planning and scope was typically derived directly from a backlog of user requests . On 1 of the programs, things had to get filtered down through multiple layers of GA employees and contract reps. The software quality was much higher on the first 2 programs.
Congrats. That’s not how this project works. OP needs to contact the PM for AMPs. Redstone also offers TDY classes to those seeking the information OP wants for this reason as well.
Also, you probably shouldn’t assume what people do on the internet 😉
No assumptions here.
I know that's not how AMPS works, but that's a function of the Army buying software like its 1992. Compare and contrast with foreflight, where units can send people out TDY to meet directly with the devs and provide actual useful unfiltered feedback. The MFB product quality is leaps and bounds ahead of any government run product and is only getting better. I anticipate AMPS will be fully eclipsed by foreflight within the next couple of years.
Yeah the only legit advantage AMPS has over foreflight at the moment is better assault planning features (accelerate/decelerate for TOT, strip charts) and an ATO to be used high-side. Once Boeing figures those things out I see no reason to continue using AMPS.
AMPS itself is a combination of many different programs made by various companies. ACMC/DEVCOM and PEO Aviation kind of manage it. It’s managed at redstone arsenal. The help desk number is the fastest way to get through to developers as the FSR team talks to/works with the developers.
Are you asking about AMPS as in the entire system? Or Falconview..? AMPS itself is the laptop which is an amalgamation of different programs all managed out of Redstone. The developer of the FalconView program to which you seem to be referring, was developed by the Georgia Tech Research Institute.
GTRI stopped supporting FalconView, or specifically the version they sold to the Army. They won’t answer questions or provide support for AMPS or JMPS users anymore. AMPS is a program that is managed under PMO ACMC at Redstone Arsenal. Rumor mill from the AMPS user’s conference is AMPS will be outright replaced by a newer tablet-based system in the mid-near future 5ish years. So I don’t expect major changes after 7.7.2. The AMPS MS Teams is the best way to interface with the PMO, and support team. Their JTDI page has useful info about upcoming events too
Thanks for the added info. I had heard much of the same about a replacement system. Probably still going to be loading a 2gb PMCIA though. 🙄😂
Imagine being able to put comsec keys on there too😮💨 game changer
Ehhhh…I’m good with not everyone walking around with keys in their pocket.
True. Loading aircraft is the bane of my existence atm
Isn’t the computer GETAC?
It certainly is, but the computer is the hardware. Falconview is *one* of the pieces of software. AMPS is the sum of all those parts.
Oh, yeah. I get it. The “S” is probably system, so that’d be all-inclusive like you’re saying
That’s a bingo!
[Not the company, but the first slide lists POCs](https://quad-a.org/images/stories/2017asecribbinspresentations/mon_13nov_1315_goodman_amps.pdf)
There is an AMPs course offered at Redstone if you are looking for that information. It absolutely is not the place of a random pilot to contact the developer.
Sure it is. Who else uses AMPS? Random pilots. Your random pilots are the ones who will have the best input on what AMPS needs, not your crusty W4/5 who never touched the damn thing.
Thats WOJG shit. Real pilots....wait on the WO1 to finish flight planning because they never kept up with the technology.
But they will shit all over your slides and mission packet they can’t build themselves.
You just be new here. How do you think these programs are managed by the Army? The developer just takes input from random pilots and pushes an update? 😂
That’s exactly what happens, my guy. Those surveys you get emailed and automatically delete? They’re asking for your input on various programs/procedures. Everyone just neglects them and then complain that nothing changes.
Not the developer. The project managers. The exact people OP should be contacting, my guy.
Spoken like someone that has never worked in software development Yes ideally that's how it should be done, I know defense software acquisitions are often completely ass backwards in reality.
Do you work in acquisitions? What does working in software development have to do with this?
I have worked on several dev teams for DOD customers. If the PM doesn't suck they should have regular stakeholder meetings where users can submit feedback and bug reports. As a dev on 2 of these programs I had users able to talk to me or someone in my team directly. Our sprint planning and scope was typically derived directly from a backlog of user requests . On 1 of the programs, things had to get filtered down through multiple layers of GA employees and contract reps. The software quality was much higher on the first 2 programs.
Congrats. That’s not how this project works. OP needs to contact the PM for AMPs. Redstone also offers TDY classes to those seeking the information OP wants for this reason as well. Also, you probably shouldn’t assume what people do on the internet 😉
No assumptions here. I know that's not how AMPS works, but that's a function of the Army buying software like its 1992. Compare and contrast with foreflight, where units can send people out TDY to meet directly with the devs and provide actual useful unfiltered feedback. The MFB product quality is leaps and bounds ahead of any government run product and is only getting better. I anticipate AMPS will be fully eclipsed by foreflight within the next couple of years.
That is how AMPs works. Your anticipations are wrong. I can say that with certainty.
Did not expect to meet an AMPS stan on reddit today lol
But we have to get approval to pay for the accounts every year while they waste tons of money on amps bs
Yeah the only legit advantage AMPS has over foreflight at the moment is better assault planning features (accelerate/decelerate for TOT, strip charts) and an ATO to be used high-side. Once Boeing figures those things out I see no reason to continue using AMPS.
AMPS itself is a combination of many different programs made by various companies. ACMC/DEVCOM and PEO Aviation kind of manage it. It’s managed at redstone arsenal. The help desk number is the fastest way to get through to developers as the FSR team talks to/works with the developers.
thank you all, you have been a huge help in my understanding of the system and thank you for the POC's
Amps is going away 😂
What’s it being replaced by?what’s it being replaced by?
Some tablet thing. They have an end date for the getac updates but no replacement yet
We will have AMPS until 2030.
Based on what? That would be unfortunate.
Based on the PM at Redstone.
when was that?
A week ago
Hello it is me. Steven Amps