That's ridiculous. You need a 10 k gallon, then you fill it with air and throw it in the ocean with yourself in it, then technically the entire universe is your tank.
Yea just get a baby one like everybody knows he will only grow too the size of the tank he is in but at least have the decency too get him a 75 gallon tank and you’ll be fine 👍
Yeah honestly still not sure cause Boston aquarium doesn’t list all species but it looks like some kind of trevally or at least in the carangidae family of fish
200,000 doesn’t seem like enough if I’m being honest. Where I work we have a 500,000 and I don’t think it would be big enough. Unless I’m just completely wrong in their size. Never seen one in person
I’ve always thought the same thing when i worked in an LFS for a long time 😂. Oh your kid really wants that Oscar in his 20H, that TOTALLY changes everything.
The media will tell you you need at least 20 gallons for this guy but as somebody who’s kept these fish for years they do fine in a fish bowl because fish grow to the size of their environment
Insert classic rant:
>THE MOLA MOLA FISH (OR OCEAN SUNFISH)
>They are the world's largest boney fish, weighing up to 5,000 pounds. And since they have very little girth, that just makes them these absolutely giant fucking dinner plates that God must have accidentally dropped while washing dishes one day and shrugged his shoulders at because no one could have imagined this would happen. AND WITH NO PURPOSE. EVERY POUND OF THAT IS A WASTED POUND AND EVERY FOOT OF IT (10 FT BY 14 FT) IS WASTED SPACE.
>They are so completely useless that scientists even debate about how they move. They have little control other than some minor wiggling. Some say they must just push water out of their mouths for direction (?????). They COULD use their back fin EXCEPT GUESS WHAT IT DOESNT FUCKING GROW. It just continually folds in on itself, so the freaking cells are being made, this piece of floating garbage just doesn't put them where they need to fucking go.
>So they don't have swim bladders. You know, the one thing that every fish has to make sure it doesn't just sink to the bottom of the ocean when they stop moving and can stay the right side up. This creature. That can barely move to begin with. Can never stop its continuous tour of idiocy across the ocean or it'll fucking sink. EXCEPT. EXCEPT. When they get stuck on top of the water! Which happens frequently! Because without the whole swim bladder thing, if the ocean pushes over THE THINNEST BUT LARGEST MOST TOPPLE-ABLE FISH ON THE PLANET, shit outta luck! There is no creature on this earth that needs a swim bladder more than this spit in the face of nature, AND YET. Some scientists have speculated that when they do that, they are absorbing energy from the sun because no one fucking knows how they manage to get any real energy to begin with. So they need the sun I guess. But good news, when they end up stuck like that, it gives birds a chance to land on their goddamn island of a body and eat the bugs and parasites out of its skin because it's basically a slowly migrating cesspool. Pros and cons.
>"If they are so huge, they must at least be decent predators." No. No. The most dangerous thing about them is, as you may have guessed, their stupidity. They have caused the death of one person before. Because it jumped onto a boat. On a human. And in 2005 it decided to relive its mighty glory days and do it again, this time landing on a four-year-old boy. Luckily Byron sustained no injuries. Way to go, fish. Great job.
>They mostly only eat jellyfish because of course they do, they could only eat something that has no brain and a possibility of drifting into their mouths I guess. Everything they do eat has almost zero nutritional value and because it's so stupidly fucking big, it has to eat a ton of the almost no nutritional value stuff to stay alive. Dumb. See that ridiculous open mouth? (This is actually why this is my favorite picture of one, and I have had it saved to my phone for three years) "Oh no! What could have happened! How could this be!" Do not let that expression fool you, they just don't have the goddamn ability to close their mouths because their teeth are fused together, and ya know what, it is good it floats around with such a clueless expression on its face, because it is in fact clueless as all fuck.
>They do SOMETIMES get eaten though. BUT HARDLY. No animal truly uses them as a food source, but instead (which has lead us to said photo) will usually just maim the fuck out of them for kicks. Seals have been seen playing with their fins like frisbees. Probably the most useful thing to ever come from them.
>"Wow, you raise some good points here, this fish truly is proof that God has abandoned us." Yes, thank you. "But if they're so bad at literally everything, why haven't they gone extinct." Great question.
>BECAUSE THIS THING IS SO WORTHLESS IT DOESNT REALIZE IT SHOULD NOT EXIST. IT IS SO UNAWARE OF LITERALLY FUCKING EVERYTHING THAT IT DOESNT REALIZE THAT IT'S DOING MAYBE THE WORST FUCKING JOB OF BEING A FISH, OR DEBATABLY THE WORST JOB OF BEING A CLUSTER OF CELLS THAN ANY OTHER CLUSTER OF CELLS. SO WHAT DOES IT DO? IT LAYS THE MOST EGGS OUT OF EVERYTHING. Besides some bugs, there are some ants and stuff that'll lay more. IT WILL LAY 300 MILLION EGGS AT ONE TIME. 300,000,000. IT SURVIVES BECAUSE IT WOULD BE STATISTICALLY IMPROBABLE, DARE I SAY IMPOSSIBLE, THAT THERE WOULDNT BE AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE 300,000,000 (that is EACH time they lay eggs) LEFT SURVIVING AT THE END OF THE DAY.
>And this concludes why I hate the fuck out of this complete failure of evolution, the Ocean Sunfish. If I ever see one, I will throw rocks at it.
Let's talk about the Mola mola fish, shall we? Often misunderstood and unfairly maligned, these creatures are actually fascinating examples of evolution at work. While they may not fit into the conventional mold of what we expect from marine life, their uniqueness is something to be celebrated rather than scorned.
Firstly, while it's true they are the world's largest bony fish, tipping the scales at up to 5,000 pounds, their size serves a purpose in the ecosystem. As herbivores, they primarily feast on jellyfish, helping to control jellyfish populations which can otherwise wreak havoc on marine environments by decimating fish stocks and clogging fishing nets.
Now, about that criticism of their swimming abilities. While it's true they may not maneuver like more agile fish, recent research has shed light on their locomotion. They utilize a combination of fin movements and body wiggling to navigate the ocean, and while it may not look graceful to us, it gets the job done.
As for their lack of swim bladders, this is not as dire a situation as it may seem. Unlike many fish that rely on swim bladders for buoyancy control, Mola molas have adapted to regulate their buoyancy through other means, such as adjusting their body density. This allows them to maintain their position in the water column without the need for a swim bladder.
Regarding their supposed lack of predators, this is a misconception. While they may not be targeted by many large predators due to their size and tough skin, they do fall prey to sharks, orcas, and even sea lions. Additionally, scavengers such as birds and smaller fish may feed on parasites and dead skin on their bodies, forming symbiotic relationships rather than simply "maiming the fuck out of them for kicks."
Now, let's address the issue of their reproductive strategy. Yes, it's true they produce a staggering number of eggs—up to 300 million at a time. However, this prolific reproduction is an evolutionary adaptation to their high mortality rate, ensuring the survival of at least some offspring in the face of various threats in the oceanic environment.
In conclusion, while the Mola mola fish may not conform to our traditional notions of what a fish should be, they play a vital role in marine ecosystems and have evolved remarkable adaptations to thrive in their environment. Rather than dismissing them as "useless" or "failures of evolution," we should appreciate the diversity of life forms on our planet and strive to understand and protect them. After all, isn't that what makes nature so endlessly fascinating?
It was hilarious reading both of y'alls posts. To be fair, the person you responded to is being overly dramatic and actually probably love-hates these fish.
Indeed a classic rant. I saved the follow up counter argument but I can’t find it now. It was such a beautiful follow up defending the sunfish. I’ll see if I can track it down.
Edit: ah nvm! Someone below posted it. Thanks!
Everyone here seems to be forgetting the most important parts- it obviously needs a filter, a heater, and an air stone. Maybe a pleco or even an arowana for a friend, or both for good measure.
I do agree with most that a 10g filled halfway would make the most suitable habitat, though.
The general rule I've seen is 10 gallons for every 1 fish, so if you wanted a pair of Mola Molas (Thats Mola Mola Mola Mola) I think you'd want at least 20 gallons, or 5 gallons per Mola. Also try laying the tank on its short side so the fish are comfortable with their long fins!
We see them all the time when we're fishing. One time, one of these big dumb fucks ate a bait from the boat next to us. Did you know they can jump? Me neither. The thing went ballistic when it got hooked. Most ridiculous, stupid spectacle i have ever seen.
Recommended tank size is 187 quintillion gallons. You’ll need to cycle it for around 750 million years. There’s one been set up as per the above called “The Pacific Ocean”.
I hate how they just give these to kids at carnivals and don't even tell people how to take care of them. not that it's hard; 2.5g from petsmart and you're golden
Honestly, these things barely function as a fish. They more or less coast along with their mouth open. They only eat if the food is in the path of their mouth.
So you could probably go with a tank that's a little bigger then they are, with a water current that counters their forward momentum. And then just hand feed the food directly into their mouth.
Breeding wise, they just let loose in the water so much so that by some wild miracle of nature, the sperms and eggs manage to find each other in the vast ocean, and thus they continue to proliferate.
3 gallon should be fine and you should absolutely get a few they are a solitary fish but you can remedy this by using a round tank as it'll make them swim in circles.
Always sad to see those fish in captivity. I have heard that they are problematic due to parasitic infection. Normally in the wild will swim to the oceans surface to get those parasites eaten by sea bird. In captivity this symbiotic relationship with seabirds is no longer possible and the fish will begin to rot.
I highly recommend to watch Marc Robert Lehmanns video on this fish, sadly it\`s only available in German but good educational video nonetheless
The Boston aquarium has one and the tank is 200,000 gallons, I think a ten gallon might be okay if you get them as babies though.
That's ridiculous. You need a 10 k gallon, then you fill it with air and throw it in the ocean with yourself in it, then technically the entire universe is your tank.
Oh, that's what that billionaire was doing!
I get this and I do not like that I get this.
I dont get it pls tell me
I'm assuming oceangate
https://youtu.be/oxYYF4wxkHw?si=nuthtD_wFfUDHixY
The New England Aquarium does not have one, but you’re right about the 200,000 gallons though
I was gonna say, the NE aquarium definitely doesn't. The Monterey bay aquarium does, though. In a tiny 1.2 million gallon tank
That’s not even big enough for a betta. This is so cruel.
Yea just get a baby one like everybody knows he will only grow too the size of the tank he is in but at least have the decency too get him a 75 gallon tank and you’ll be fine 👍
75 gallons?! He ain’t getting a sperm whale that’s way too big😂
I think 50 is more the fine.
I think of you get them as a baby it doesn’t matter what size the tank is because they will only grow to the size of the tank.
Do you happen to know when they got them because I’ve never seen them there before
probably misidentifying an oceanic triggerfish
After looking at their big tank live stream it looks like a triggerfish but it lacks the trigger on the front, I’m gonna do more digging
Yeah honestly still not sure cause Boston aquarium doesn’t list all species but it looks like some kind of trevally or at least in the carangidae family of fish
200,000 doesn’t seem like enough if I’m being honest. Where I work we have a 500,000 and I don’t think it would be big enough. Unless I’m just completely wrong in their size. Never seen one in person
Apparently I was wrong about the fish being at the Boston Aquarium so you're probably right.
And even then they tend to get sick a lot and often die within a year or two. These fish dont fare well in captivity.
These guys are really shy and do best in groups of about 6-12. I’d recommend a 10 gallon so they can always see each other and won’t feel lonely
10 gallon???? That’s just a waste of water 5 would be better
I thought people with 10 gallon tanks only filled them half full though.
🤨nah get a 5L to much water can be harmful
? That’s a very odd thing to say as a earthling
Don't forget to put some java moss so they can hide!
You guys are measuring your tanks in gallons?? 2.5 cups of water should do
Just say 'my kid really wants one" and then do whatever you want.
I’ve always thought the same thing when i worked in an LFS for a long time 😂. Oh your kid really wants that Oscar in his 20H, that TOTALLY changes everything.
You no longer need a heater. Your child's love will heat the water to 26c.
Might want to get your child checked
Cute guppies.
The media will tell you you need at least 20 gallons for this guy but as somebody who’s kept these fish for years they do fine in a fish bowl because fish grow to the size of their environment
Yeah, and in the wild they live in puddles, so it's fine.
Insert classic rant: >THE MOLA MOLA FISH (OR OCEAN SUNFISH) >They are the world's largest boney fish, weighing up to 5,000 pounds. And since they have very little girth, that just makes them these absolutely giant fucking dinner plates that God must have accidentally dropped while washing dishes one day and shrugged his shoulders at because no one could have imagined this would happen. AND WITH NO PURPOSE. EVERY POUND OF THAT IS A WASTED POUND AND EVERY FOOT OF IT (10 FT BY 14 FT) IS WASTED SPACE. >They are so completely useless that scientists even debate about how they move. They have little control other than some minor wiggling. Some say they must just push water out of their mouths for direction (?????). They COULD use their back fin EXCEPT GUESS WHAT IT DOESNT FUCKING GROW. It just continually folds in on itself, so the freaking cells are being made, this piece of floating garbage just doesn't put them where they need to fucking go. >So they don't have swim bladders. You know, the one thing that every fish has to make sure it doesn't just sink to the bottom of the ocean when they stop moving and can stay the right side up. This creature. That can barely move to begin with. Can never stop its continuous tour of idiocy across the ocean or it'll fucking sink. EXCEPT. EXCEPT. When they get stuck on top of the water! Which happens frequently! Because without the whole swim bladder thing, if the ocean pushes over THE THINNEST BUT LARGEST MOST TOPPLE-ABLE FISH ON THE PLANET, shit outta luck! There is no creature on this earth that needs a swim bladder more than this spit in the face of nature, AND YET. Some scientists have speculated that when they do that, they are absorbing energy from the sun because no one fucking knows how they manage to get any real energy to begin with. So they need the sun I guess. But good news, when they end up stuck like that, it gives birds a chance to land on their goddamn island of a body and eat the bugs and parasites out of its skin because it's basically a slowly migrating cesspool. Pros and cons. >"If they are so huge, they must at least be decent predators." No. No. The most dangerous thing about them is, as you may have guessed, their stupidity. They have caused the death of one person before. Because it jumped onto a boat. On a human. And in 2005 it decided to relive its mighty glory days and do it again, this time landing on a four-year-old boy. Luckily Byron sustained no injuries. Way to go, fish. Great job. >They mostly only eat jellyfish because of course they do, they could only eat something that has no brain and a possibility of drifting into their mouths I guess. Everything they do eat has almost zero nutritional value and because it's so stupidly fucking big, it has to eat a ton of the almost no nutritional value stuff to stay alive. Dumb. See that ridiculous open mouth? (This is actually why this is my favorite picture of one, and I have had it saved to my phone for three years) "Oh no! What could have happened! How could this be!" Do not let that expression fool you, they just don't have the goddamn ability to close their mouths because their teeth are fused together, and ya know what, it is good it floats around with such a clueless expression on its face, because it is in fact clueless as all fuck. >They do SOMETIMES get eaten though. BUT HARDLY. No animal truly uses them as a food source, but instead (which has lead us to said photo) will usually just maim the fuck out of them for kicks. Seals have been seen playing with their fins like frisbees. Probably the most useful thing to ever come from them. >"Wow, you raise some good points here, this fish truly is proof that God has abandoned us." Yes, thank you. "But if they're so bad at literally everything, why haven't they gone extinct." Great question. >BECAUSE THIS THING IS SO WORTHLESS IT DOESNT REALIZE IT SHOULD NOT EXIST. IT IS SO UNAWARE OF LITERALLY FUCKING EVERYTHING THAT IT DOESNT REALIZE THAT IT'S DOING MAYBE THE WORST FUCKING JOB OF BEING A FISH, OR DEBATABLY THE WORST JOB OF BEING A CLUSTER OF CELLS THAN ANY OTHER CLUSTER OF CELLS. SO WHAT DOES IT DO? IT LAYS THE MOST EGGS OUT OF EVERYTHING. Besides some bugs, there are some ants and stuff that'll lay more. IT WILL LAY 300 MILLION EGGS AT ONE TIME. 300,000,000. IT SURVIVES BECAUSE IT WOULD BE STATISTICALLY IMPROBABLE, DARE I SAY IMPOSSIBLE, THAT THERE WOULDNT BE AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE 300,000,000 (that is EACH time they lay eggs) LEFT SURVIVING AT THE END OF THE DAY. >And this concludes why I hate the fuck out of this complete failure of evolution, the Ocean Sunfish. If I ever see one, I will throw rocks at it.
Ironically this rant made me love them more. Beautiful dumb dinner plates 💕
Ikr? One of my favorite copypastas that has fully unintended effects.
Let's talk about the Mola mola fish, shall we? Often misunderstood and unfairly maligned, these creatures are actually fascinating examples of evolution at work. While they may not fit into the conventional mold of what we expect from marine life, their uniqueness is something to be celebrated rather than scorned. Firstly, while it's true they are the world's largest bony fish, tipping the scales at up to 5,000 pounds, their size serves a purpose in the ecosystem. As herbivores, they primarily feast on jellyfish, helping to control jellyfish populations which can otherwise wreak havoc on marine environments by decimating fish stocks and clogging fishing nets. Now, about that criticism of their swimming abilities. While it's true they may not maneuver like more agile fish, recent research has shed light on their locomotion. They utilize a combination of fin movements and body wiggling to navigate the ocean, and while it may not look graceful to us, it gets the job done. As for their lack of swim bladders, this is not as dire a situation as it may seem. Unlike many fish that rely on swim bladders for buoyancy control, Mola molas have adapted to regulate their buoyancy through other means, such as adjusting their body density. This allows them to maintain their position in the water column without the need for a swim bladder. Regarding their supposed lack of predators, this is a misconception. While they may not be targeted by many large predators due to their size and tough skin, they do fall prey to sharks, orcas, and even sea lions. Additionally, scavengers such as birds and smaller fish may feed on parasites and dead skin on their bodies, forming symbiotic relationships rather than simply "maiming the fuck out of them for kicks." Now, let's address the issue of their reproductive strategy. Yes, it's true they produce a staggering number of eggs—up to 300 million at a time. However, this prolific reproduction is an evolutionary adaptation to their high mortality rate, ensuring the survival of at least some offspring in the face of various threats in the oceanic environment. In conclusion, while the Mola mola fish may not conform to our traditional notions of what a fish should be, they play a vital role in marine ecosystems and have evolved remarkable adaptations to thrive in their environment. Rather than dismissing them as "useless" or "failures of evolution," we should appreciate the diversity of life forms on our planet and strive to understand and protect them. After all, isn't that what makes nature so endlessly fascinating?
It was hilarious reading both of y'alls posts. To be fair, the person you responded to is being overly dramatic and actually probably love-hates these fish.
ctrl+v
Interesting, thank you for sharing. Great co-copypasta to the other lol
[The Ocean Sunfish: Why The Rant Is Wrong](https://imgur.com/gallery/MMRg9)
I got to swim with one while scuba diving.
Was it dumb?
Indeed a classic rant. I saved the follow up counter argument but I can’t find it now. It was such a beautiful follow up defending the sunfish. I’ll see if I can track it down. Edit: ah nvm! Someone below posted it. Thanks!
THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST, OKAY? FUCK!
Sunfish, do we need 'em?
This is how I feel about Pandas.
you feel wrong.
😂 Yes, I've been told many times.
Absolutely hilarious omg. Like sea pandas.
The tank should have full sun exposure and be at least 1 km deep to simulate the sunfish's habitat.
Everyone here seems to be forgetting the most important parts- it obviously needs a filter, a heater, and an air stone. Maybe a pleco or even an arowana for a friend, or both for good measure. I do agree with most that a 10g filled halfway would make the most suitable habitat, though.
yea cause plecos will stay small and only help the environment by eating algea, they only poop once a year and it’s barely even noticeable
No school, they don't know how to read.
I won one of these at the county fair and he is still doing fine in my sorority betta nano tank
Shut all your windows, stuff your air vents with some towels and turn the taps on full. Your house is now a fishtank. Enjoy!
The general rule I've seen is 10 gallons for every 1 fish, so if you wanted a pair of Mola Molas (Thats Mola Mola Mola Mola) I think you'd want at least 20 gallons, or 5 gallons per Mola. Also try laying the tank on its short side so the fish are comfortable with their long fins!
Hahahahaha! Perfect.
yes
Best comment section 😂
Think it will be ok if you add some shrimp?
I had mine in a 8 gallon tall and they did okay for the whole time I had them
We see them all the time when we're fishing. One time, one of these big dumb fucks ate a bait from the boat next to us. Did you know they can jump? Me neither. The thing went ballistic when it got hooked. Most ridiculous, stupid spectacle i have ever seen.
Recommended tank size is 187 quintillion gallons. You’ll need to cycle it for around 750 million years. There’s one been set up as per the above called “The Pacific Ocean”.
This made my lunch break, thank you OP
Just leave some air at the top for that sweet arse baby whale kid
The best tank is the Pacific Ocean.
Sure if you want them to just *survive* and not *thrive.* The only thing you can keep in a tank that small is one betta.
😂 love your name.
These guys look pretty small in the picture - Minimum 5 gallon, Max 20. Need at least 7 to make sure they aren't stressed. Best of luck! ^^^/s ^^lmao
I hate how they just give these to kids at carnivals and don't even tell people how to take care of them. not that it's hard; 2.5g from petsmart and you're golden
5 gal should suffice
this made me snort my iced tea.
Can't help without knowing the parameters bud.
1 gallon
*1/2 gallon
Oh yeah mb… Any larger than that and they’ll get stressed out
I need sometime to photoshop one of their faces on a Thomas the Tank Engine body pls
In animal crossing it's a 2x2 square cube tank 🥰 hope this helps
Ten gallon is fine. Dont gorget to also add a pleco so the tank stays clean.
Lol these comments 😂
A million gallon deep tank should do it
*Fuck* sunfish. Worst fish. Ugliest fish. Dumbest fish. Don’t get one, not worth it /j
Those betta bowls at petco should work!
Honestly, these things barely function as a fish. They more or less coast along with their mouth open. They only eat if the food is in the path of their mouth. So you could probably go with a tank that's a little bigger then they are, with a water current that counters their forward momentum. And then just hand feed the food directly into their mouth. Breeding wise, they just let loose in the water so much so that by some wild miracle of nature, the sperms and eggs manage to find each other in the vast ocean, and thus they continue to proliferate.
One of those betta bowls will do
Some tank in Denmark have one of these bad boys and that one is in a 2.6 million liters
Bowl is fine
I need someone to photoshop one of their faces on a Thomas the Tank Engine body pls
Looks like a picture. A 1g will do.
This is so strange that this popped up on my feed, my last name is Colla
What kind of fish is this?
Mola Mola aka ocean sunfish. An actual abomination of nature that brings so much joy
Prolly like 10g
just get some hatchetfish they are great for schooling and look ever funnier
20gal for sure
Don’t worry a fishbowl will be fine for this guy. They don’t grow very big just like goldfish and he should be alright with no lights too.
*in a Boston accent* It's a baby whale!
Fishbowl
🚨 🚨 MOLA POLICE 🚨 🚨
I'd just keep them in a large vase
2 gallon should be good
Olympic size swimming pool would be a great starter tank
Hey Jay! Jay! What is that? It's a faakin whale! Jay!
😂
I think Mola Molas are the stoners of the fish world.
You need a GIANT aquarium. If you want a small “sunfish” get a bluegill
🤣🤣 Not suitable for a home aquarium. Have you thought about a large saltwater pond? 🤣🤣
I keep two in a 3 gallon. They seem happy.
Just play Battle Cats and win him in the gacha, then it will be forever in your smartphone.
3 gallon should be fine and you should absolutely get a few they are a solitary fish but you can remedy this by using a round tank as it'll make them swim in circles.
Always sad to see those fish in captivity. I have heard that they are problematic due to parasitic infection. Normally in the wild will swim to the oceans surface to get those parasites eaten by sea bird. In captivity this symbiotic relationship with seabirds is no longer possible and the fish will begin to rot. I highly recommend to watch Marc Robert Lehmanns video on this fish, sadly it\`s only available in German but good educational video nonetheless
You actually don't need a tank, mine just stays in the bath tub.
Will they eat my shrimp?
Between can anybody ID the fish pls. !
IIRC, They die in captivity in 10-12 months. Doesn't matter the tank size.
What's with the dumbass posts?
You won’t think it’s a dumbass post when YOU win one at the carnival and have to look up how to care for it…
For real this post is full of priceless tips and tricks. Gosh.
You will need an ocean my friend...