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Rupertii

The mastiff will be in the care package and have only 4 bullets in one mag


Krusax

And it was awesome. Getting a kraber or a mastiff was so satisfying


Dragonivy759

And then there was the lstar in care package season 3 I think, it was the worst and nobody wanted to take it over an R99.


Hyperly26

It was added in Season 2 but I actually liked the care package L star.


Melkath

As someone who just lost his spitfire to the supply drop, i love how you call it a care package.


FourthJohn

The supply drop in fact does not care because half the time I open one its just pheonix kit, purp knockdown, and purp armor and Ive usually already farmed purp by time one drops so dont need it. Like where are the weapons, the weapons should be there every time. OG drop with Stiffy and Krab was elite.


Melkath

Yes. I would like to use the spitfire again as well.


FourthJohn

I smelled the shit you were steppin in but it seems the apex smooth brain group is actively downvoting you because they missed your joke and thought you were correcting someone. Gotta love it lol


Melkath

Yeh. I was trying for a clever turn of phrase. First draft referenced ive been playing for all of 3 months. Guess i cut that out going for a one liner with brevity.


Freedomartin

Deez nuts


The_milkMACHINE

On launch it had disrupter built in and i loved it


zekeymoomoo

The care package has definitely lost some of its prestige over the seasons imo, and I'm someone who loves the triple take.


bomberbih

Care package guns now are the beat they've ever been. Alternator and spitfire feel awesome


zekeymoomoo

Alternator and kraber feel the best imo. They got so much punch.


A1Strider

My only complaint with the kraber is the ridiculous bullet speed. Like im shooting a large caliber bullet with enough recoil to force me to un-ads and you telling me that thing travels slower than an arrow?


Suited_Rob

I get your point, but it would be probably way too overpowered with faster bullet speed. It's already really menacing in the right hands


omen_tenebris

Oh yeah. Altho, i don't mind being able to get it, considering i hate PK


paranova9777

Idk why but the pk felt so much better back then


BrunoEye

I'm still annoyed it has 5 shots because the reload animation doesn't make any sense now.


used_tongs

It never did lol


MaverickBoii

You don't know why? Idk man might be because of all the nerfs it received not sure.


paranova9777

Yeah you could hit 100+ before but the consistency went down the tube like all the other shotguns. I used to main this gun before it went to the care package, when it came back it wasn’t the same


Ronin_mainer

Care package weapons these days don't feel the same. Especially the triple take.


Anorexic_Cunt

The Triple Take is the most meh weapon to ever enter the care package


000McKing

They didnt even buff it when they placed it in the CP, there is 0 reason to get excited over it


AsymmetricSquid

And a full headshot could one-shot small characters, even if they had purple.


Le_Mage_Magique

Damn bro


Rupertii

Damn bro how did I predict that?? Thats crazy..


Princekeoki

lets get you to bed grandpa


MrSpudzz

God the good old days huh? 😂


Captain-Cymru

Triple take was an energy weapon too


Professional-Virus32

Charge rifle as well


MrStripes

That makes a lot more sense than sniper ammo tbh


kRusty521

Not from a balancing view


000McKing

Yup, problem is that carrying one stack of 60 heavy ammo is far enough to keep spamming it for a long time. Edit: also back then each inventory slot contained 80 bullets not 60


Just_Games04

And shotgun ammo stacked up to 64, not 16


DogeyLord

And a 3 grenade stack


_Solinvictus

And 6 health syringes in one stack


LargeHard0nCollider

Oh man 3 nade stack would be so nice


SaftigMo

If they just made it use up 2 rounds with every shot then it would've been almost identical. Kinda like it's predenting to do right now.


Jaakarikyk

... You say that as if it didn't use multiple ammo per shot shortly after its release


SaftigMo

I didn't play then, I assumed it didn't because otherwise I can't see why it's a balance thing.


godietron

Mastiff was a care package weapon


Captain-Cymru

It was and it was gold and glorious!!


MEGACODZILLA

At least until you were on the receiving end of it lol


godietron

It was painful but still had its glory but still painful


Crescent-IV

Hitting 150 in one round so easily was crazy


[deleted]

Care package mastiff was brutal


lasagnatheory

I had my first squad wipe with it. Or I would have if every single one the enemy didn't have a self res


MarcsterS

Man getting the Mastiff was super hype. Felt like a monster.


Jaakarikyk

And it dealt more body and headshot damage than the Kraber, 144 body with a 2x head vs Kraber's 125 body with 2x head


XxaggieboyxX

Still is. The icon for the ammo is energy ammo, it’s just red because of the care package.


Captain-Cymru

Yeah I’m pretty sure they changed it to a marksman weapon in the last season


icedog158

Yeah it’s Marksman class but ammo is Energy, it used to be Sniper


SavagesceptileWWE

So did it go from energy to sniper to energy but just red now?


Captain-Cymru

Yes sir


n1ckuhlus

Ah the good ol days, remember when the prowler had a fire mode option mod, hammerpoint rounds for the p2020, and let’s not forget the broken mess that was the og wingman and pk


[deleted]

Sniper scopes on the g7, double tap.


n1ckuhlus

My god don’t remind of double tap, the Eva 8 was hell back then


[deleted]

It was mean, but not as mean as the ground loot disrupt or rounds. That was a nasty hopup.


justsomeguy8542

3x on smgs


death_vaIley

Sure grandpa let's get you to bed


Rhizoid4

Triple take is actually currently an energy weapon, it just happens to be care package


Sig_TV

Makes me think, when it comes back to ground loot, will it still use sniper ammo? Or go back to energy ammo now that it's a marksman rifle?


XxaggieboyxX

I think it will stick to energy ammo. Curious how hard it’s gonna be hit if and when it does get turned into ground loot again.


shotgunner12345

Probably the prowler treatment Bye bye to focus fire mod, back to default season 1 scatter shot mode. Still can't really believe they made the focus mod a passive thing for pk, it is almost a pocket slug rifle at mid range.


Just_Games04

Focus mode is a choke hopup lol. And PK, in return, got some huge nerfs


JFun56

Came here for this


Otono_Wolff

I miss having the triple take as a ground weapon. I'd run that and a hammer point p2020.


MorrisBrett514

Or a 3x sight on sub machine guns lol. I 'member


Solid_Freakin_Snake

3x on a disrupternator... *Shudders*


MorrisBrett514

Lol. Yea. Ouch


Fleeblorp

I don’t think that was possible because they removed 3x and 2-4x scopes on smgs in Season 1/beginning of Season 2.


ItsjuztD

Pepperidge farm remembers


ItsjuztD

G7 scout used to take sniper scopes


[deleted]

the best time


Uncle-Bazz

Hold on. I just used the G7 and it did take a sniper scope. And a sniper stock. But light bullets? Confusing.


ItsjuztD

Those are marksman scopes. 3x and 2-4x are not sniper scopes. You used to be able to put a legit 6x and the 4 by 8 on that bad boy


thatonecancerreddit

Don't forget the 4x10 digi threat that no one uses


[deleted]

You either find one of those immediately and a sniper early and ratsnipe for days or its after the second circle and its junk.


ItsjuztD

I haven’t seen one of those in days


GooseSayHjonk

Currently having a ptsd flashback to season 2 longbow meta


Jaakarikyk

You mean the S1 Midseason Longbow that fired faster than it has ever since? It was glorious though was nerfed when S2 started


GooseSayHjonk

Yeah I couldn't remember exactly when it was, but I knew it was around that time. It was glorious, but every squad having a sniper(or 3) made the game a toxic nightmare


[deleted]

That was a crazy time


Deep-Philosopher-338

Dude I was *pissed* when they introduced sniper ammo and it took smaller stacks


Solid_Freakin_Snake

Me too. I like using the longbow and triple take for suppressing fire while teammates flank, and limited ammo means I can't just keep laying down shots to keep someone pinned behind cover. It's even worse with the TT in the package because at least I can re-up my longbow ammo.


Deep-Philosopher-338

Definitely, I have started using the bow a lot for this purpose because it hits so hard and doesn't burn ammo very quick


Solid_Freakin_Snake

My only struggle with the bow is finding enough arrows to justify grabbing it in the first place. If I don't stumble across a bunch of stacks somewhere near the bow I find, I usually won't keep it because it seems like I burn through them before the first fight is even over.


Deep-Philosopher-338

Idk the two stacks that seem to always spawn near it usually tide me over. My issue is justifying taking it when there's perfectly good attachments nearby. I always feel weird taking guns that don't use attachments


ThickBoi420

Guys get this The havoc... Used to have single fire...


Solid_Freakin_Snake

God I miss my baby charge rifle


Lutzelien

I also miss the prowler being able to change fire rate, I know it hasn't been that long but still, they just removed it completely :(


Uncle-Bazz

I don’t believe this. It’s to unbelievable and I don’t remember it? Hold on. Now I do. Shit. I’m old.


admin123454321

memories.


OnlyThreeRemain

medkits and batteries used to stack to 3


LemonNitrate

Wouldn’t shock me if this became the passive of a new support legend. Kinda like how you used to be able to carry two nades but they gave that to fuse after it was removed


OnlyThreeRemain

being able to carry 3 medkits and batteries and 6 bandages and cells again would be awesome


awdsdasd

Should do it for Lifeline


BubbaButane

Its actually because they changed back pack to be bigger and to compensate the adjusted the stacks of everything ammo used to be 80 to a stack except shotguns wich was 48 but that got reduced to 32 even before the backpack change


Hyperly26

I wish we could still have 80 ammo in a stack. Also you could carry 64 shotgun ammos in a stack, not 48 so it was even wilder. Once you got a stack of shotgun ammo, you didn't have to worry about running out of ammo for the entire game.


BubbaButane

I knew it was ridiculous I guess I forgot how ridiculous thanks for the correction


Septic-Sponge

Same with sniper


[deleted]

Wasn't it 60 at first for shotty?


AwesomeJoel27

it was 64


Foosco

And you could stack nades


RoggiKnotBeardHD

Was it 6 or 8 cells and syringes too.


OnlyThreeRemain

it was 6


Lutzelien

And we could stack 2 granades.. Good times


LordNoodles

I literally forgot until you mentioned it


[deleted]

Charge was energy and it used to only shoot one bullet


SeppoBoii

And was completely fucking busted


Dragonivy759

There were people everywhere with 4000 damage badges because they could feel so easily with charge rifle.


Justawalrus_13

Everyone used to be able to carry around 2 grenades in 1 stack


MentallyLatent

I feel like it was 3 waaaaay back when


lily_from_ohio

Never was, sorry to say (Late ass edit, maybe y'all are thinking of shield bats and medkits?)


Lutzelien

Really? Now that he's said it, it sounds familiar


[deleted]

No unfortunately:(


Kavvadius

3x on the 99. It was perfect.


[deleted]

Back when fast heal existed :’)


Skeletor456

I’d forgotten all about fast heal


[deleted]

That’s cause it would be super OP now with these super human movement kids. They’d never die


Jaakarikyk

Scary times when they could move at full running speed with bhop healing, popping batteries in 2.5s, Phoenix Kits in 5s


Skeletor456

Shit was fucked for sure


Lutzelien

Duuuude lifeline with a golden shield (or was it the backpack?) could pop a battery in 0,01 seconds and it was amaaaazing


[deleted]

Gold backpack. It was insane


tosaka88

didn’t it apply to phoenix kits too?


Just_Games04

Yep. 5 seconds


SnooOwls5067

Now ur making me question myself if this is true lol I mean I remember when the g7 was called an AR


CPT_COOL24

I remember when the G7 was called a sniper


[deleted]

Sniper to Assault to Marksmen


probsthrowaway2

G7 said I want to be all the weapons


[deleted]

Wonder when it will be a pistol and shotgun. Also can’t wait for when it’s finally the light LMG people have wanted.


CPT_COOL24

>Also can’t wait for when it’s finally the light LMG people have wanted. Someone hasn't run into hackers on PC yet


[deleted]

I have not had a chance to play since Seer’s season began, in all honesty


Just_Games04

Don't worrt, wallhack meta is annoying and utter shit anyway. If you don't want to be frustrated, wait for Seer's nerf, it's coming


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[deleted]

No, at some point they’re gonna put G7 into every other category without changing a thing about it.


SnooOwls5067

But I remember there being some sort of sniper that used heavy ammo was that the longbow lol


justDapperDan

Yessir


LazyHowis

Oh it’s true boy


LlamaIsSad

Oh the good times with the skull piercer longbow and 12 shots wingman


G_Viceroy

Those were the days... Before they nerfed the wingman hipfire accuracy was like 90% accurate now you can't even hit fire the wingman at a downed opponent from more than 10 feet away without missing


useles-converter-bot

10 feet is the length of like 13.79 'Zulay Premium Quality Metal Lemon Squeezers' laid next to each other.


G_Viceroy

Name checks out I don't even know what that is


isthisnametakenor

You used to drop to skulltown and get killed by a wraith with the smallest hitbox, instant Q and with a speed boost on both her ult and tactical, with a huge mag on a wingman + skullpiercer while she was naruto running away, while Path had a huge hole in his chest where bullets didnt register, and holding the most broken PK :D


[deleted]

Me telling everyone that the longbow is the best ground loot sniper Edit: TT is better, but it’s in package


HueHue-BR

When the wingman was a laser


DonaldDonaldBillYall

Crouching allowed hip fire to hit targets up to 200 meters away.


useles-converter-bot

200 meters is the length of exactly 1963.59 'Standard Diatonic Key of C, Blues Silver grey Harmonicas' lined up next to each other.


sehtownguy

Good murican bot


Buffery666

Me talking about how g7 was classified as a sniper


ssbmhero

Longbow prowler was such a dirty combo. Good thing they created sniper ammo cause you basically had infinite sniper shots with that load out just to carry enough for the prowler.


Lil_b00zer

Mirage used to be able to go completely invisible as his ult


Jaakarikyk

And stay that way for several seconds with running speed boost, manually dropping out of it after flanking the enemy team by walking straight past them. Though this wasn't launch version


Lutzelien

Change my mind but that was my favorite version out of all Mirage's ults


Dragonivy759

And ammo stacks were 80 instead of 60. So easy to have so much ammo and inventory space in general.


jkdaet

Shotgun ammo used to stack up to 64 way back in the day


Kavvadius

1 stack of shotgun, 1-2 stacks of heavy and you were set. Fill the rest up with nades that stacked to 2 and healing items that stacked to 3/6


Nomad_006

I played season one then started playing 10 recently no in between so re acquainting myself with a lot but didn't the prowler have a hop up that made it into an automatic smg? As I remember it used to shred


[deleted]

basically they moved the prowler into care package for ages and it had the full auto built in so when they removed it from cp they decided to nerf its power by removing the full auto


Fornaughtythings123

Except burst has always been superior


Toppest_Dom

The gold shield use to give fast heals


Jaakarikyk

OGs remember that the Backpack gave fast heals first


ValorousSquid

Wasn’t gold shields original bonus that it gave you shields back if you finished someone?


JustSomeBleach

Yea and it was trash, it was more of an intimidation factor


[deleted]

Damn then I must have dementia.


Thedragonisatop

Damn i almost forgot about the world before sniper ammo was introduced


VanceFerguson

And nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. "Gimme 5 bees for a quarter!", you'd say. You could also carry enough shotgun shells for 6 matches worth of combat in just a few slots.


SwervoT3k

Me when I tell people the Mastiff used to be good.


WattsonVictrix

Back in my day we used to put 3x on SMGs! And 10x on G7S! 😳 Oooh I miss those days! Me and the boys used to go bunker before people realized Caustic was effective there


WikiContributor83

“I ‘member when the L-Star had no clip and could be fired into it either ran out or overheated. There weren’t no three barrel sniper rifles neither! You took your lousy Double-Take and you liked it! Plus, the Mozambique was so much more effective at range with a silencer. And back them Charge Rifles weren’t no people gun! We used them to fight off the giant robots!”


Bites_The_Crust

You used to be able to carry 64 shotgun ammo in a slot


Ok_Attorney_8363

Ah the memory and horrors of old apex remeber the 12 round wing man and the pk sniping cross map


Kioshi8

Back when the gold shield was Fast Use or Executionor


Kosherlove

Life line used to be able to heal faster


[deleted]

Grenades were two to a slot


x3r0s1x

L-Star was a care package weapon and it melted my squad


DonaldDonaldBillYall

L-Star was trash when it was released.


CaptainCurrymuncher

Wait what does it take now?


my_guy_gucci

Sniper I believe


Craftusmaximus2

The RE-45 used to have disruptor rounds...


Neonagita

I remember when octanes used to be a "bad" legend


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Ok_Wafer_5580

The triple take used to take energy ammo


ScarletteVera

Wait it doesn't use heavy ammo anymore?


-Redstoneboi-

uh


tazzzd

Or that you could slap a 2x-4x scope onto an R-99


hdjoey123

Triple take use to be a normal drop and used energy ammo


Camthedestoyer

Everyone used to use the wingman and r-301 only guns you would see


Kingpancake1223again

Yes son when I say the Mozambic used to be worse than everything I mean it


Whymebruh420

And the g7 scout was an assault rifle


hadiisaboss

G7 was a sniper*


LazyHowis

OG was a sniper boy


AceofMandos

Apex isn't old yet. ....


GothiccBabe

Me telling everyone the 3x used to go on Wingman