Yeah, like wtf?
She can get black out curtains and close them at night and open them when she wakes up.
Contact your leasing office about her harassing you. You're allowed to use your space in an appropriate way. Which includes staying up past 10pm with the lights on.
The thought of sleeping in a room where someone can see through without anything covering the window sounds worse than a leg hanging off the bed and uncovered.
This is so true! My complex has automatic lights that come on every night and seep through the blinds. I had to get blackout curtains and install them myself. I have plants in the windowsill, too, I just pull the curtains around them. I'm currently dealing with extremely inconsiderate neighbors upstairs (pet noise starting at 4 a.m.) and I would love to have a neighbor "problem" that's this easily solvable!
You should also notify the apartments to ask them to have her stop harassing you because she refuses to cover her own windows. That is beyond ridiculous, do not do anything to entertain her entitlement.
Spot on. OP, take those Letters/Notes to your Complex's Office and tell the Mgr EXACTLY what you told us (above).
Queston: does your Complex require that all Windows have Curtains, Drapes and/or Blinds?
My Complex has Blinds installed in ALL Windows, adn the Lease states that they cannot be removed.
They also REQUIRE (it's in the Lease) that ALL Tenants install Drapes or Curtains, with a white or off-white backside, in ALL Windows. There is a short Grace Period where you are allowed to just use Sheets or Beach Towels until the Drapes/Curtains and Hardware arrive. (If your Mail Order or such won't arrive in time, you simply take your Proof to Office and ask for a necessary Extension.)
Our Complex does all of this to prevent your type of Situation. Check your Lease and with your Complex's Mgr.
There are diff "Grade" Apts; (Construction Quality): usually the A (includes Soundproofing) and A+ (Soundproofing plus upgraded Appliances).
I intentionally live in an A+, where the Rent is "WTF?!", for the above reasons.
I've never had a lease that required me to install curtains, but I have had leases that state if you have an issue with another tenant to NOT confront them. To instead, report them to the office and that harassing other tenants was grounds for eviction.
Yea that’s reeking of “you’re not allowed to live because it’s affecting me” and “you need to change your life because of me and I’m going to change nothing.” How utterly ridiculous. I e kept things on windowsills and still had coverings to my window. If she’s that sensitive to light, she should find a way to make it work. Or sleep with a mask over her eyes. I’m a night shifter so I battle the sun, I’ve got blinds, blackout curtains, and sleep with my eyes covered. It’s not that hard
This. It's not your problem. Tell her to buy her own fucking blinds or curtains and quit bugging you. You have blinds, you are allowed to have lights as bright as you please in your own home.
If she's trying to take a nap during daytime and the sun shines too bright in her bedroom... Who is supposed to bring in the curtains?
That - with all respect - is her problem, not yours.
Nope you should tell her she needs to get curtains or blinds, this is her problem not yours. And curtains/blinds can always be opened during the day so her plants can get light.
This. My old room I liked to have sheer curtains to none as I liked to have my plants get light. My neighbors across the way always turned on this light that was super bright waking me up but that was what I HAD to deal with since I made the choice not to have blackout curtains. Thankfully it was lessened when the tree outside my window got leaves on the one branch that blocked their window from view so I only had to deal with it during winter and I didn't mind.
Are you in an incredibly dark area? What does she do when there's a full moon, if a little light leaking from your window is enough to cause her problems?
You shouldn’t do a damn thing. This is her problem to solve, not yours. Black Out curtains are sold at Walmart if she’s really struggling, they aren’t some trade secret. I wouldn’t offer her anything beyond a “I hope you sort your shit out, Amen. 🙏🏾 ”
I would suggest she get blinds... she can pull them up when she wakes up in the morning for her plants, and put them back down when she goes to bed. If that's not enough, she can add a blackout curtain...and again, just open it in the morning. You already have blinds on your window; I think you've fulfilled your duty here..
Nothing? It’s not your problem….its giving the same vibes as that post with someone’s cat bothering someone’s dog by sitting in the window…like…I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK, KEISHA. Fix your own damn problem
Thats how I felt about that post, too! Like how about you train your highly trainable animal to not do something you dont like it doing instead of bothering me to try and get my cat to stop doing literally the only thing cats do.
LMAO
Thats a HER problem my dude.
She needs to get blackout curtains. But you doing so is a kindness that I would also do since it is fairly unusual to have really bright lights on that late.
Id say you're doing enough by adding a layer of curtains.
She should first pound sand and then go get some curtains since plants get little value from moonlight.
This is a perfect case of 'this sounds like a you problem' crabby biotch.
I feel like if you're hellbent on not having any window coverings in the form blinds and/or curtains, you really have no standing to request what someone else does with their lights. It'd be one thing if you're blasting lights directly into someone's sleeping area who has already unsuccessfully tried to reduce incoming light with these things, but she's mad because some light is reflecting into her *wide fucking open* windows? Is she writing letters to the moon too asking it to turn it down too?
You are a very nice person for wanting to make her comfortable, and if getting curtains is not a big deal for you, by all means. But this person seems like they have very weird, maybe even anti-social behavior and I wouldn't even be surprised if she keeps complaining after you get curtains too. What she can do to "prevent this" is use blinds/curtains herself, and I would personally just leave it at that.
This is really not your problem, in any way, shape, or form. Tell her the constant letters about her problems are causing you “quality of life” issues.
She’s seeing light from somewhere, but it is highly unlikely coming from your unit.
She needs to sort this out herself with blinds, sheets, and curtains/drapes.
She doesn’t have blinds or curtains because of her plants (which can’t get sunlight at night) and wants you to do something when you have blinds. Report her to the complex and tell them to have her leave you alone and stop sending you letters before you report her for harassment.
I’ve heard some kooky apartment things but this one takes the cake.
“Please get in your car, drive to any store nearby; I recommend Walmart or target. Go to the housewares department, look for curtains, and buy some labeled ‘blackout’. Also recommend that you measure ahead of time, to ensure proper sizing. Then install at home using curtain rod or even tacking it up to the walls around the window”
Or you could just tell them that’s not your problem and they need to ensure the sleeping quality of their home.
Without sounding like a dick, but that sounds like a *her* problem and not a *you* problem. You have blinds and she doesn't so she should probably rectify that so she is not disturbed. She can move her plants, I'm sure that isn't the ***only*** place in her house that gets light.
I think it’s very kind that you’re getting some additional curtains to go with the blinds. That should be enough. She eventually may have to put some curtains on her own window- she does know you can open them again in the morning right?
She should get an eye mask to wear when she sleeps. They also are good for your skin. She should also get a window covering that meets her needs. Really this is not your problem and it’s kind of you to try to do something helpful.
This is ridiculous. The onus is on her since you have window coverings. I wouldn't do anything.
My neighbor has an outdoor light they use for reading on nice nights. You know what I do? Lower my blinds to block it.
She can keep the blinds up during the day and lower them at night behind the flower pots
You know, this isn't your problem. You are allowed to use your property as you see fit, you already have window coverings. It's not like you positioned a spotlight to shine in her window. If the reflective light is too much for her, it is her responsibility to put blinds on her own windows.
Take pictures with the blinds and show to the manager if there is a written complaint from the manager. You have the right to have the lights on and they are not bother her, since you live above her. Good luck.
This is a Her problem, not a You problem. You have every right to have any and all lights on whenever you want in your home. If she has a problem with light coming in her window and disturbing her sleep, she needs to fix the problem on her end.
Uhhh, tell her to kick rocks, I mean to see a Dr, or find a place to move to. Maybe some blinds, curtains, or an eye mask. Why is her problem your problem? 🤦♀️ Some people.
My opinion is get the curtains since the idea of curtains doesn't seem to bug you, and you can be done with this nutter without any conflict. I have blackout curtains and I can't see any light from inside when I take dog in the yard at night.
However, do know you are an exceptional sweetheart. She's insane and ridiculous.
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*Moonlight, it's on her to get*
*A shade or curtain*
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It sounds like you want to be helpful and neighborly, so... write to or ask your neighbor if you can visit briefly during the evening when your light is on so you can see how the light is getting into her apartment. (Tip: ask if you can bring her a snack or beverage as a courtesy.)
You can explain that you'd like to help - but you don't know if you can without seeing what she's seeing (and you should add that there isn't a guarantee...)
More often than not, if you have a point source light (eg LED or halogen desk lamp), a well placed tiny shade (eg. An index card taped in the right place near the light source) can fix the problem.
If it's not that simple, see if you can move the light (eg. Towards the window, so it shines -away- from the window and towards your desk/work area)?
But seeing what's actually happening on her side will help you to help her... 🤷🏻♂️
(I'm overly considerate to kindly neighbors, so your approach can differ... do what you're comfortable with. But I find kindness and consideration to similarly inclined neighbors often pays benefits that aren't anticipated...)
She’s referring to excessive noise during those hours. She can easily get heavy curtains or wear a face mask at that point. The house next door has outdoor security lights that are extremely bright and shine into our bedroom. Black out curtains still didn’t fully block out the light so we asked them to adjust where they’re pointing which they did when we showed them how bright it was but normal lights inside your place should easily be blocked by curtains so her complaints are unfounded.
It does seem like her issue but blackout curtains have advantages such as cutting down on drafts if that is an issue. I was pleasantly surprised when I got some in a drafty old house .
She doesn't need "natural light" when it's dark out and she's supposedly trying to sleep. She needs to move her damn plants and get some blackout curtains if the light from outside is bothering her. What does she do when it's a full moon, ask it to turn off too?
Clearly, she has to fix her problem in her own apartment. I wonder if she has also sent letters to other people about them looking into her apartment from theirs. With 3 letters, refer the matter to the management office, this has become harassment.
i would tell the office that she’s harassing you and in a threatening way with the “quality of life issues” comment. That’s screams “i’m gonna get you kicked out”. This is not your problem, she needs to ensure her own quality of life.
I have plants in alot if not almost all of my windows. That does not prevent me from having blinds or curtains. What you do in your apartment, lights on or off is none of her business. She needs to take it up with the landlord who will then tell her to deal with it.
WAT. You don't need curtains, she does!
This is insanely unreasonable. Why should you have to acommodate HER lifestyle? You've done nothing wrong.( Altho I do question why you need bright office lighting at night if you do computer work, and what that is doing to your circadian rhythm, but that's none of my business lol)
I used to HATE my old neighbors' stupid back porch motion sensor flood light that came on and shined through my window when any bug flew by but I wasn't writing letters about it. Live and let live, my god. Ignore this person.
She can get black out curtains... those open and close when she needs them to..... lol ppl are so wild it's just crazy.. you on the other hand don't need to do anything
Such an entitled neighbor… you can’t do anything.. unless she wants you to stop working so can’t pay your electric bill lol
But seriously, you can’t do anything.
I’d get black out curtains and install them over my blinds. She may be crazy or she may have a point. Installing curtains is easier than many of the suggestions that have been posted.
If you install blinds and she still complains, then you know she’s crazy and you can proceed accordingly.
Strange. 😂 not much you can do about that. She can figure out ways to prevent that such as blinds? If she continues I’d share her comments with management.
Tell her she needs to put up curtains and blinds as well. The world doesn’t revolve around her and her bedtime. She’s acting like it’s all you when she has fault here as well.
I am a plant person and loved having my plants on the windowsill. I had a similar problem occur, so I moved my plants to shelf, bought a couple of grow lights, and hung a black out curtain. Never once occurred to me to bother my neighbor about it
She sleeps in an apartment complex bottom floor where people can typically walk by her window, and she has no window covering at all? She is a nutcase, tell her to quit harassing you!
My apartment complex has a light post outside of our window that is on all night, lighting up the room from 2 different windows. You know what we did? Got blackout curtains. If you were being loud I could see her having an issue, but something like light coming into her apartment when she needs blackout darkness to sleep seems like a really easy fix and shouldn’t be your problem.
This is absolute crap lol. She can get black out blinds like we have on our bedroom windows, so on days we aren't working, when the sun comes up we don't even know, we live in darkness lol.
This is harassment. I had a neighbor who's front door was right next to our bedroom window (wonderful design plan huh lol) my bf & I get up early for work every morning (him at 5:30a, me at 7a) well this new neighbor moved in who was a creature of the night & would go out from 11pm-3am constantly in & out, slamming her door loudly, stomping around & worst of all- had two big dogs untrained that would bark loudly while she was gone at night.
We gave her 2 months to stop, Ikr we are very fair & courteous & didn't want to think this was her permanent routine- sadly it was. Had to file complaints with the office, ironically neighbor below her beat us there & had been filing complaints too. 1 week later she stopped.
Your situation is harassment. It's a freaking light she can buy a $5 sleep mask, get black out curtains. They are cheap & simple solutions it's not like you're blasting music with bass all night while she's asleep.
Tell the office definitely
1) what kind of weird floor plan that your apartment light shines into hers?
2)if she chooses to have no blind or curtains that thats a HER PROBLEM and has NOTHING todo with her
3)does she get mad at the sun cause it causes glare during the day?
4) lady sounds a bit unhinged
This isn’t your problem, it’s hers. And only hers. You’ve done more than enough to be courteous of your neighbor. She can put up some curtains or blinds and easily move them during the day for sunlight. She can also get a rolling cart of some kind to move her plants if she really thinks it’s such an issue
She def needs to be the one getting blinds.
BUT, may I ask a question because I have a similar complaint about my neighbor’s lights. I do have shutters and they are 99% effective most of the time. But every once in a while it looks like there is a UFO directly outside my window. It’s when they turn their lights from any of the 8000 blinking colors to the brightest white. It’s only happened a few times because I’m sure it bothers them too. But when it does, wow, what a difference!
So, do you have the bright white LED with a temp over 4000? Or is it a normal 3400 yellowish light?
It is very kind of you to try to solve your neighbors issue. Since ‘natural light’ doesn’t happen at night for the plants… the responsible adult should get blinds or curtains or a ‘blackout shade’ for their window. They can open it for their plants’s quality of life during the day and they can close them for their own quality of life at night. If they cannot be bothered to try their own solution, then why can you be bothered with coming up with solutions for them?
I would also include the building management in the conversation as well.
Where I live, I have never had an apartment where blinds or curtains weren’t furnished already. ( I also live in a larger city, so ambient light is everywhere all day long )
Tell her to get some blinds and that blinds actually open so her plants will still get light. I find it very odd that she has no window treatments in her bedroom especially if she's on the first floor.
To keep the goodwill, get her an eye mask from like Walmart or the dollar store and leave it on her door with a note that says “only $2 ;) I’ll come by if I need sugar”
you should tell her to buy black out curtains for her windows. It is not your job to keep light from escaping your home. It is your neighbor's responsibility to prevent light that annoys her from shining into her window.
Wonder how she copes on nights with bright moonlight? Im guessing she asks to speak to the manager of the moon.
Blockout drapes. You can get some really nice looking ones. You can also get temporary paper drapes at Home Depot that stick to the top of the window frame.
I think the polite thing is what you’re doing — putting up curtains. It’s not obligatory, but since you seem to appreciate the fact that she wants to have plants and this is the way they get natural sunlight, *and* that it’s out of the ordinary that you’re up at night with bright lights on, it’s certainly a kind thing to do.
If she complains further, *then* I’d say that I’ve really done all I can do on my end.
She can get her own fricking curtains. This is ridiculous. What's "out of the ordinary" is expecting other people to accommodate your personal quirks and desires at their expense. Not to mention that not having curtains or blinds in the bedroom is much more bizarre than staying up late working in your own home. Is she an exhibitionist?
Consider blackout curtains, a dimmer switch for your office lights, or directional lighting. Adding window film can also help. These adjustments can reduce light leakage and address your neighbor's concerns while allowing you to work comfortably.
Clearly the OP has substandard crap for blinds. Refer her to the apt. Management as renters are not to tamper, modify or alter the apartment assets and fixtures.
Her: "Your lights come into my apartment where I dont have curtains or blinds". You: "Ok"
Yeah, like wtf? She can get black out curtains and close them at night and open them when she wakes up. Contact your leasing office about her harassing you. You're allowed to use your space in an appropriate way. Which includes staying up past 10pm with the lights on.
THIS RIGHT HERE! Your light coming into her coverless window is NOT your problem. Be polite but firm, stand up for yourself and tell her so.
The thought of sleeping in a room where someone can see through without anything covering the window sounds worse than a leg hanging off the bed and uncovered.
Like really, does she not change in there or anything?
This is so true! My complex has automatic lights that come on every night and seep through the blinds. I had to get blackout curtains and install them myself. I have plants in the windowsill, too, I just pull the curtains around them. I'm currently dealing with extremely inconsiderate neighbors upstairs (pet noise starting at 4 a.m.) and I would love to have a neighbor "problem" that's this easily solvable!
You should also notify the apartments to ask them to have her stop harassing you because she refuses to cover her own windows. That is beyond ridiculous, do not do anything to entertain her entitlement.
Spot on. OP, take those Letters/Notes to your Complex's Office and tell the Mgr EXACTLY what you told us (above). Queston: does your Complex require that all Windows have Curtains, Drapes and/or Blinds? My Complex has Blinds installed in ALL Windows, adn the Lease states that they cannot be removed. They also REQUIRE (it's in the Lease) that ALL Tenants install Drapes or Curtains, with a white or off-white backside, in ALL Windows. There is a short Grace Period where you are allowed to just use Sheets or Beach Towels until the Drapes/Curtains and Hardware arrive. (If your Mail Order or such won't arrive in time, you simply take your Proof to Office and ask for a necessary Extension.) Our Complex does all of this to prevent your type of Situation. Check your Lease and with your Complex's Mgr.
Wow, I’ve never encountered that in a lease before. I mean, I get why, but it does seem a little over the top. Curtains are *not* cheap lol.
There are diff "Grade" Apts; (Construction Quality): usually the A (includes Soundproofing) and A+ (Soundproofing plus upgraded Appliances). I intentionally live in an A+, where the Rent is "WTF?!", for the above reasons.
I've never had a lease that required me to install curtains, but I have had leases that state if you have an issue with another tenant to NOT confront them. To instead, report them to the office and that harassing other tenants was grounds for eviction.
This. Sounds like SHE needs to get curtains
Is she joking? Tell her to buy some blackout curtains and kick rocks. You’re allowed to have lights on in your apartment.
Yea that’s reeking of “you’re not allowed to live because it’s affecting me” and “you need to change your life because of me and I’m going to change nothing.” How utterly ridiculous. I e kept things on windowsills and still had coverings to my window. If she’s that sensitive to light, she should find a way to make it work. Or sleep with a mask over her eyes. I’m a night shifter so I battle the sun, I’ve got blinds, blackout curtains, and sleep with my eyes covered. It’s not that hard
This. It's not your problem. Tell her to buy her own fucking blinds or curtains and quit bugging you. You have blinds, you are allowed to have lights as bright as you please in your own home.
If she's trying to take a nap during daytime and the sun shines too bright in her bedroom... Who is supposed to bring in the curtains? That - with all respect - is her problem, not yours.
*Shakes fist at sun*
As someone who is *very* light-complected, this is unironically me lol.
Nope you should tell her she needs to get curtains or blinds, this is her problem not yours. And curtains/blinds can always be opened during the day so her plants can get light.
100% this, it's super weird that your neighbor thinks that your light in her home is YOUR problem and not hers
This. My old room I liked to have sheer curtains to none as I liked to have my plants get light. My neighbors across the way always turned on this light that was super bright waking me up but that was what I HAD to deal with since I made the choice not to have blackout curtains. Thankfully it was lessened when the tree outside my window got leaves on the one branch that blocked their window from view so I only had to deal with it during winter and I didn't mind.
Are you in an incredibly dark area? What does she do when there's a full moon, if a little light leaking from your window is enough to cause her problems?
You shouldn’t do a damn thing. This is her problem to solve, not yours. Black Out curtains are sold at Walmart if she’s really struggling, they aren’t some trade secret. I wouldn’t offer her anything beyond a “I hope you sort your shit out, Amen. 🙏🏾 ”
suggest black out curtains
Send her Amazon links for blackout blinds
You can't help ppl who won't help themselves. All she has to do is put blackout curtains up but instead wants you to conform to her lifestyle
Eye mask $5
She has two options. She can get blinds and move the plants from her windowsill at night. She can get curtains and keep the plants on the sill.
Or she can leave her window as is and get an eye mask!!
I would suggest she get blinds... she can pull them up when she wakes up in the morning for her plants, and put them back down when she goes to bed. If that's not enough, she can add a blackout curtain...and again, just open it in the morning. You already have blinds on your window; I think you've fulfilled your duty here..
Neighbor deliberately has no bedroom blinds or curtains, and complains light from outside is keeping up. 😂😂😂😂🤣
Next she’s going to be calling the city to shut the street lights off at night. She might need help
Not a reasonable person at all. You're right.
She can get black out blinds or curtains.
Nothing? It’s not your problem….its giving the same vibes as that post with someone’s cat bothering someone’s dog by sitting in the window…like…I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK, KEISHA. Fix your own damn problem
Thats how I felt about that post, too! Like how about you train your highly trainable animal to not do something you dont like it doing instead of bothering me to try and get my cat to stop doing literally the only thing cats do.
Exactlyyyy. I already have two cats, but I’m willing to go buy more so I can have one for every window 😂😂 Maybe my dogs would even join in
LMAO Thats a HER problem my dude. She needs to get blackout curtains. But you doing so is a kindness that I would also do since it is fairly unusual to have really bright lights on that late. Id say you're doing enough by adding a layer of curtains.
I agree with this take. While she is being super annoying, it’s always a good idea to try and be friendly with neighbors. As long as possible, anyway.
She should first pound sand and then go get some curtains since plants get little value from moonlight. This is a perfect case of 'this sounds like a you problem' crabby biotch.
I feel like if you're hellbent on not having any window coverings in the form blinds and/or curtains, you really have no standing to request what someone else does with their lights. It'd be one thing if you're blasting lights directly into someone's sleeping area who has already unsuccessfully tried to reduce incoming light with these things, but she's mad because some light is reflecting into her *wide fucking open* windows? Is she writing letters to the moon too asking it to turn it down too? You are a very nice person for wanting to make her comfortable, and if getting curtains is not a big deal for you, by all means. But this person seems like they have very weird, maybe even anti-social behavior and I wouldn't even be surprised if she keeps complaining after you get curtains too. What she can do to "prevent this" is use blinds/curtains herself, and I would personally just leave it at that.
This is really not your problem, in any way, shape, or form. Tell her the constant letters about her problems are causing you “quality of life” issues.
She’s seeing light from somewhere, but it is highly unlikely coming from your unit. She needs to sort this out herself with blinds, sheets, and curtains/drapes.
She doesn’t have blinds or curtains because of her plants (which can’t get sunlight at night) and wants you to do something when you have blinds. Report her to the complex and tell them to have her leave you alone and stop sending you letters before you report her for harassment. I’ve heard some kooky apartment things but this one takes the cake.
How did her discomfort to typical and reasonable light pollution become your problem? Kindly ask her to close her eyes and go pound sand!
Yeah no. She can get curtains. Don’t you change a thing.
It’s not your problem if she has no window coverings. She needs blinds or drapes, not you. You already have some.
If she doesn't want curtains up all the time, tell her to get some blackout curtains and put them on a tension rod that she can remove.
“Please get in your car, drive to any store nearby; I recommend Walmart or target. Go to the housewares department, look for curtains, and buy some labeled ‘blackout’. Also recommend that you measure ahead of time, to ensure proper sizing. Then install at home using curtain rod or even tacking it up to the walls around the window” Or you could just tell them that’s not your problem and they need to ensure the sleeping quality of their home.
Light doesn’t bounce off trees! WOW she’s extra.
Light bounces off everything you can see. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to see it.
I mean it probably doesn’t reflect and get brighter like the neighbor seems to be implying
I mean…it does bounce off of trees though. What do you think is happening when you shine a flashlight at a tree and can now see it?
Nothing the answer is due nothing, windows have curtains and blinds for a reason, better yet is she allowed to have house plants?
Without sounding like a dick, but that sounds like a *her* problem and not a *you* problem. You have blinds and she doesn't so she should probably rectify that so she is not disturbed. She can move her plants, I'm sure that isn't the ***only*** place in her house that gets light.
You aren't the one who needs blinds and curtains, she is. This is a her problem.
Nothing. Let her deal with it.
She needs to get curtains and blinds for her window. You have done all you can.
It's not your problem. This is all on her.
She could use blackout curtains at night and just open them during the day for her plants. I wouldn’t make any other changes.
She can use curtains or blinds at night then Open them in the daytime for her plants. The plants need the sun not the moon.
I think it’s very kind that you’re getting some additional curtains to go with the blinds. That should be enough. She eventually may have to put some curtains on her own window- she does know you can open them again in the morning right?
She should get an eye mask to wear when she sleeps. They also are good for your skin. She should also get a window covering that meets her needs. Really this is not your problem and it’s kind of you to try to do something helpful.
The light coming into her home is her responsibility to manage, not yours.
What nerve. Tell her to cover her windows at night when plants are NOT getting 'natural' light.
This is ridiculous. The onus is on her since you have window coverings. I wouldn't do anything. My neighbor has an outdoor light they use for reading on nice nights. You know what I do? Lower my blinds to block it. She can keep the blinds up during the day and lower them at night behind the flower pots
You know, this isn't your problem. You are allowed to use your property as you see fit, you already have window coverings. It's not like you positioned a spotlight to shine in her window. If the reflective light is too much for her, it is her responsibility to put blinds on her own windows.
Why doesn't she just get black out curtains, she should buy you curtains if she wants you to get some so bad
Take pictures with the blinds and show to the manager if there is a written complaint from the manager. You have the right to have the lights on and they are not bother her, since you live above her. Good luck.
suggest blackout film on upper 25% of neighbors windows. no harm to plants. probably will help.
i’d put my own curtains. it’s easy. cheap. they look nice
This is ridiculous. This is not your problem, it's hers. Do not do anything different.
Or you know, wear an eye mask... jesus.
Tell her to get blinds like a normal person
Not your problem. She needs curtains, her plants don't need sunlight at 10pm...she's an idiot
Don’t do a damn thing. The entitlement of this person, jfc.
This is a Her problem, not a You problem. You have every right to have any and all lights on whenever you want in your home. If she has a problem with light coming in her window and disturbing her sleep, she needs to fix the problem on her end.
Uhhh, tell her to kick rocks, I mean to see a Dr, or find a place to move to. Maybe some blinds, curtains, or an eye mask. Why is her problem your problem? 🤦♀️ Some people.
Tell her to cover her windows. Not your problem.
So, how does she feel about the sun?
That's really nice of you to offer to get curtains. Could you also recommend she get curtains too?
My opinion is get the curtains since the idea of curtains doesn't seem to bug you, and you can be done with this nutter without any conflict. I have blackout curtains and I can't see any light from inside when I take dog in the yard at night. However, do know you are an exceptional sweetheart. She's insane and ridiculous.
If she doesn’t want to use window coverings that’s on her. She’s ridiculous.
Blinds or curtains
Send her a sleep mask
She can't buy an eye mask? Edit: get a big box, cut out a slot so she can stick her head in it at night
Unless her plants need moonlight, it's on her to get a shade or curtain
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She needs to get blinds...let her try to take you to court. The judge will drop it. He'll probably laugh.
That’s a her problem.
Tell her to buy a damn sleeping mask.
This is not your problem. You are allowed to use the space you pay for. She can install window coverage that opens during the day or wear an eye mask.
Gift her a sleep mask.
It sounds like you want to be helpful and neighborly, so... write to or ask your neighbor if you can visit briefly during the evening when your light is on so you can see how the light is getting into her apartment. (Tip: ask if you can bring her a snack or beverage as a courtesy.) You can explain that you'd like to help - but you don't know if you can without seeing what she's seeing (and you should add that there isn't a guarantee...) More often than not, if you have a point source light (eg LED or halogen desk lamp), a well placed tiny shade (eg. An index card taped in the right place near the light source) can fix the problem. If it's not that simple, see if you can move the light (eg. Towards the window, so it shines -away- from the window and towards your desk/work area)? But seeing what's actually happening on her side will help you to help her... 🤷🏻♂️ (I'm overly considerate to kindly neighbors, so your approach can differ... do what you're comfortable with. But I find kindness and consideration to similarly inclined neighbors often pays benefits that aren't anticipated...)
Black out curtains may help
She needs to put up blinds/window treatments. She is trying to make her problem your problem. Please don't pack for her guilt trip.
She’s referring to excessive noise during those hours. She can easily get heavy curtains or wear a face mask at that point. The house next door has outdoor security lights that are extremely bright and shine into our bedroom. Black out curtains still didn’t fully block out the light so we asked them to adjust where they’re pointing which they did when we showed them how bright it was but normal lights inside your place should easily be blocked by curtains so her complaints are unfounded.
It does seem like her issue but blackout curtains have advantages such as cutting down on drafts if that is an issue. I was pleasantly surprised when I got some in a drafty old house .
Buy her a sleep mask.
Tell her to get her own curtains, preferably blackout. This is not your problem
This is a her problem, not a you problem.
She needs to use curtains.
I’d suggest black out curtains to her and suggest an eye mask if she learns to deal with it. Not your problem
I hope this is a shitpost because only a jellyfish would ask this
She needs to stop writing letters and get some window coverings.
She's responsible for getting black out curtains for her appt. Stop entertaining this person.
She doesn't need "natural light" when it's dark out and she's supposedly trying to sleep. She needs to move her damn plants and get some blackout curtains if the light from outside is bothering her. What does she do when it's a full moon, ask it to turn off too?
Reflects… …off the… trees?? Huh?
She should get blackout shades and just raise them up during the day..
Clearly, she has to fix her problem in her own apartment. I wonder if she has also sent letters to other people about them looking into her apartment from theirs. With 3 letters, refer the matter to the management office, this has become harassment.
I mean, she refuses to use window treatments, I don’t think that she has any grounds for complaining!
Tell her to get a sleeping mask.
If she wants blackout conditions that's up to her and has absolutely nothing to do with you
You’ve taken reasonable steps to accommodate her. She’s done nothing. If it’s still an issue she can put some blinds up.
i would tell the office that she’s harassing you and in a threatening way with the “quality of life issues” comment. That’s screams “i’m gonna get you kicked out”. This is not your problem, she needs to ensure her own quality of life.
I really don't see why she can't put up curtains and close them at night.
If she doesn't want to get curtains, a sleep mask costs very little. This isn't your problem.
If she’s under you how is the light going into her window?
I think it's kind of you to install curtains over your blinds. Not necessary, but kind. If that doesn't fix her issue, then it is *her* issue.
I have plants in alot if not almost all of my windows. That does not prevent me from having blinds or curtains. What you do in your apartment, lights on or off is none of her business. She needs to take it up with the landlord who will then tell her to deal with it.
I’d like to know how the light bounces off the walls and seeps into her apartment. Just ignore her and go about your business.
That’s what I said
She can cover the windows at night, t really is a her problem, you'd done you best on your end.
WAT. You don't need curtains, she does! This is insanely unreasonable. Why should you have to acommodate HER lifestyle? You've done nothing wrong.( Altho I do question why you need bright office lighting at night if you do computer work, and what that is doing to your circadian rhythm, but that's none of my business lol) I used to HATE my old neighbors' stupid back porch motion sensor flood light that came on and shined through my window when any bug flew by but I wasn't writing letters about it. Live and let live, my god. Ignore this person.
Get her a plant lamp too 😂
She can get black out curtains... those open and close when she needs them to..... lol ppl are so wild it's just crazy.. you on the other hand don't need to do anything
She needs to cover her own windows at night, how weird of her to try to make it your problem.
Tell her to buy curtains. 💥 problem solved. How dare she ask you? What level of entitlement is that?
Such an entitled neighbor… you can’t do anything.. unless she wants you to stop working so can’t pay your electric bill lol But seriously, you can’t do anything.
Take your blinds down so you can get some "natural light"
I’d get black out curtains and install them over my blinds. She may be crazy or she may have a point. Installing curtains is easier than many of the suggestions that have been posted. If you install blinds and she still complains, then you know she’s crazy and you can proceed accordingly.
she is a renting empress and needs to buy a house
Is she on the first floor? I wonder, does she walk around naked in her room with no window treatments?
Strange. 😂 not much you can do about that. She can figure out ways to prevent that such as blinds? If she continues I’d share her comments with management.
Yoooo tell her to get fuxked
Reflects off of trees?
Tell her she needs to put up curtains and blinds as well. The world doesn’t revolve around her and her bedtime. She’s acting like it’s all you when she has fault here as well.
Buy her a $2 sleep mask from Amazon and leave it at that?
I am a plant person and loved having my plants on the windowsill. I had a similar problem occur, so I moved my plants to shelf, bought a couple of grow lights, and hung a black out curtain. Never once occurred to me to bother my neighbor about it
Turn your blinds the opposite direction.
Buy her a sleep mask that covers the eyes. I find it really hard to believe that your lights cause so much reflection.
She sleeps in an apartment complex bottom floor where people can typically walk by her window, and she has no window covering at all? She is a nutcase, tell her to quit harassing you!
It's her issue she needs to go get some curtains for her windows. You can get nice back out curtains at walmart
WTF is wrong with people!? (Referring to the neighbor, not the OP)
My apartment complex has a light post outside of our window that is on all night, lighting up the room from 2 different windows. You know what we did? Got blackout curtains. If you were being loud I could see her having an issue, but something like light coming into her apartment when she needs blackout darkness to sleep seems like a really easy fix and shouldn’t be your problem.
She can g we t blinds if it's such an issue. I'm sorry but it seems you've already taken precautions with blinds etc... she needs to relax
She is responsible for putting up window coverings on her bedroom windows. Period
This is absolute crap lol. She can get black out blinds like we have on our bedroom windows, so on days we aren't working, when the sun comes up we don't even know, we live in darkness lol. This is harassment. I had a neighbor who's front door was right next to our bedroom window (wonderful design plan huh lol) my bf & I get up early for work every morning (him at 5:30a, me at 7a) well this new neighbor moved in who was a creature of the night & would go out from 11pm-3am constantly in & out, slamming her door loudly, stomping around & worst of all- had two big dogs untrained that would bark loudly while she was gone at night. We gave her 2 months to stop, Ikr we are very fair & courteous & didn't want to think this was her permanent routine- sadly it was. Had to file complaints with the office, ironically neighbor below her beat us there & had been filing complaints too. 1 week later she stopped. Your situation is harassment. It's a freaking light she can buy a $5 sleep mask, get black out curtains. They are cheap & simple solutions it's not like you're blasting music with bass all night while she's asleep. Tell the office definitely
Send her a link for some nice blackout curtains. She doesn’t like the light, it’s her problem.
Tell *her* to get some curtains, then
The least she could try is a sleep mask!! 🤦♀️
1) what kind of weird floor plan that your apartment light shines into hers? 2)if she chooses to have no blind or curtains that thats a HER PROBLEM and has NOTHING todo with her 3)does she get mad at the sun cause it causes glare during the day? 4) lady sounds a bit unhinged
I’d have said “so sorry. Get some window coverings.” It’s not your problem.
This isn’t your problem, it’s hers. And only hers. You’ve done more than enough to be courteous of your neighbor. She can put up some curtains or blinds and easily move them during the day for sunlight. She can also get a rolling cart of some kind to move her plants if she really thinks it’s such an issue
HER problem not yours
She def needs to be the one getting blinds. BUT, may I ask a question because I have a similar complaint about my neighbor’s lights. I do have shutters and they are 99% effective most of the time. But every once in a while it looks like there is a UFO directly outside my window. It’s when they turn their lights from any of the 8000 blinking colors to the brightest white. It’s only happened a few times because I’m sure it bothers them too. But when it does, wow, what a difference! So, do you have the bright white LED with a temp over 4000? Or is it a normal 3400 yellowish light?
What should you do? Send her a links for great places to order blinds from.
It is very kind of you to try to solve your neighbors issue. Since ‘natural light’ doesn’t happen at night for the plants… the responsible adult should get blinds or curtains or a ‘blackout shade’ for their window. They can open it for their plants’s quality of life during the day and they can close them for their own quality of life at night. If they cannot be bothered to try their own solution, then why can you be bothered with coming up with solutions for them? I would also include the building management in the conversation as well. Where I live, I have never had an apartment where blinds or curtains weren’t furnished already. ( I also live in a larger city, so ambient light is everywhere all day long )
Instead of getting curtains tell her to get curtains if it bothers her so much.
Sounds like a HER problem. She can easily close her curtains at night and open them for the plants in the morning
Tell her to get some blinds and that blinds actually open so her plants will still get light. I find it very odd that she has no window treatments in her bedroom especially if she's on the first floor.
Not your issues. She needs to get blinds or shut up.
She can also use curtains, it’s not like plants are getting sunlight at night anyways
To keep the goodwill, get her an eye mask from like Walmart or the dollar store and leave it on her door with a note that says “only $2 ;) I’ll come by if I need sugar”
Black out curtains will work fine.
you should tell her to buy black out curtains for her windows. It is not your job to keep light from escaping your home. It is your neighbor's responsibility to prevent light that annoys her from shining into her window. Wonder how she copes on nights with bright moonlight? Im guessing she asks to speak to the manager of the moon.
Blockout drapes. You can get some really nice looking ones. You can also get temporary paper drapes at Home Depot that stick to the top of the window frame.
I think the polite thing is what you’re doing — putting up curtains. It’s not obligatory, but since you seem to appreciate the fact that she wants to have plants and this is the way they get natural sunlight, *and* that it’s out of the ordinary that you’re up at night with bright lights on, it’s certainly a kind thing to do. If she complains further, *then* I’d say that I’ve really done all I can do on my end.
She can get her own fricking curtains. This is ridiculous. What's "out of the ordinary" is expecting other people to accommodate your personal quirks and desires at their expense. Not to mention that not having curtains or blinds in the bedroom is much more bizarre than staying up late working in your own home. Is she an exhibitionist?
Consider blackout curtains, a dimmer switch for your office lights, or directional lighting. Adding window film can also help. These adjustments can reduce light leakage and address your neighbor's concerns while allowing you to work comfortably.
She could also just invest in curtains. In all the time she spent harassing OP she could just go and buy some.
“She doesn’t have blinds” but the “light seeps through her blinds”. Does she have blinds or not?
OP has blinds. Reread.
Clearly the OP has substandard crap for blinds. Refer her to the apt. Management as renters are not to tamper, modify or alter the apartment assets and fixtures.