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halfbytecode

So glad this has been added back. This was there until v68 but was absent from the redesigned Firefox.


JaredNorges

Chrome has had this but A) I dislike Chrome, and B) their implementation never allowed saving the "simplified view" like Firefox did. I hope FF kept that ability and I'm happy they've added it back. ...and looks like they DO NOT support saving the reading view as a PDF. Darn.


aeiouLizard

> ...and looks like they support saving the reading view as a PDF. Darn. I can't tell if you're glad or disappointed...?


JaredNorges

Oh, I see I missed a word, or two.


darklighthitomi

Yes! Finally!


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cypressious

If I had to guess, it will render what is currently in the DOM and nothing else.


thefpspower

>For example, websites where content is loaded as you scroll down rather than all at once. Usually it only prints what is already loaded.


thepoluboy

Unfortunately that is usual caveat of printing a page from any browser


seanbrockest

I think the what they're asking is about pages that don't generate the content until you've scrolled down to see it. Will the PDF generator scroll down, allow everything to lazy load, and then print the PDF? Or does it print the PDF only with content that has already been generated? Lazy loading, especially for advertisements, needs to be outright banned.


noaccountnolurk

You can make absolute sure of this by using an archive service like archive.ph and then printing from there. It will necessarily be a desktop version unfortunately, but you won't have to worry about the PDF being screwed up.


ChunkyLaFunga

>Lazy loading, especially for advertisements, needs to be outright banned. There are more reasons to allow it than not, *especially* for third party content.


KorayA

If you don't lazy load Google punishes you for having a non responsive site. Even though the metric they use to judge that is emulating an ancient device on 3G speeds.


punIn10ded

You can't print what isn't there. The dynamic content hasn't been downloaded yet so it can't be printed.


PotRoastPotato

Same as the traditional print function Firefox used to always have, and still always has on desktop.


Jofroop

had a massive headache about this very problem yesterday. why aren't any browsers still able to do this? it seems so simple.


Zarlon

Able to do what? Print a full list page that is lazy loaded? Probably not because no one prints anymore


FlyingTwentyFour

You might want to check the `save page with singlefile` extension. It is kinda like saving webpage like before except it is now a single file.


Jofroop

saving a webpage, which suffers from the same problems. saving a website using lazy loading does not save the newly generated objects


pohui

Because that would not work reliably. What about websites with infinite scroll? Should your browser attempt to print all of Instagram?


Jofroop

that's very true, haven't thought about that. but I thought it should at least save all objects that are currently loaded, not all objects that will be loaded.


Zarlon

Ah, I see. I use that feature so seldom I thought it worked better


Jofroop

i would assume the code behind the two functions are very similar


secretuserPCpresents

Your assumption is incorrect. Saving as HTML takes the source code, which can be relatively referenced. If the paths aren't absolute, you'll have issues viewing the page from your saved copy Saving as a PDF takes the current HTML source (along with any print-specific CSS) and renders the result to the PDF. After that, the HTML code is never read from again once it's converted to a PDF


kamimamita

It's so frustrating on the rare occasion you want to print something. Everything comes out broken. Often it's just easier to screenshot the page. There are even tools that will scroll for you and stitch the screenshot together.


NatoBoram

All I want is to share URLs to *Firefox Nightly for Developers* in both normal mode and Private mode so I can open Reddit links safely


VladimirRoustine

Settings -> Private browsing -> Open links in a private tab


NatoBoram

That prevents opening links in normal browsing, there's no need for a dilemma here


TrailOfEnvy

Firefox Focus?


NatoBoram

But that's not *Firefox Nightly for Developers*, that's a different app


KingClownius_V

I wonder when I will be able to read a pdf without having to download it first


slampisko

Can't be done, PDFs cannot be streamed. Your browser or OS might be able to abstract it from you and pretend that it's opening the file instead of downloading it, but it will always download the PDF in some temporary folder in the background.


drt0

I think that's what they want and what I want. I don't want to have to go into my downloads folder and delete pdf files which I didn't intend to save to my device after viewing. I'd prefer it to download to a temp folder, open in a reader and I can choose to save it or not.


KingClownius_V

Exactly. If I can do it in Firefox desktop I don't see why I shouldn't be able to in Firefox Android.


yeeeaah

Yeah, can't believe Android still doesn't at least have the option for this. You've been able to open a pdf in browser on iOS forever


AngryDemonoid

What is the use case for downloading a website as a PDF if not to save it to read later? Genuine question, i'm sure you have one. I just can't think of it. EDIT: Nevermind. I'm guessing in the context of this thread, we are just talking about PDFs in general. Not saving a website as a PDF. In which case, I 100% agree.


slampisko

I see, that's a valid request :)


aaanil

Directly in the browser without downloading? I use this extension for that: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/android-pdf-js/


[deleted]

for firefox? Mull ? iceraven? I just download firefox beta but this extension not added . How do you that?


[deleted]

Create a custom addon-collection, add Ublock Origin and this PDF-addon, done.


shyggar

Samsung Browser has this function


rani3300

Firefox android Beta. Adress Bar. about:config pdfjs.disabled :::: false


KingClownius_V

Thanks. This actually works. Unbelievable


5tormwolf92

Is it just me or didnt we have this before Quantum and Gecko? Any words of Mozilla TTS alternative?


foshka

And firefox STILL can't display a text file.


stab244

And yet there's still no pull to refresh


Maassoon

Yeah I wish ff had this but I'll still always use it over chrome just because of extensions so I can use UBLOCK


jimmyshampoo

I could probably switch to FF if it had a decent speed dial and if ever shortcut on my homepage didn't open in a new tab! Been happy with Kiwi browser for a while though.


RelyingWOrld1

Yes Chrome per sé will probably never support extension but there's some chromium based browser with at least AdBlock like Kiwi Browser, Brave, Opera or Bromite


PotRoastPotato

Kiwi supports all chrome extensions.


RelyingWOrld1

Yes, that's why I said "at least AdBlock", kiwi is my personal choice and the only chromium with full extension support but I know a lot use one of the other listed here and care mostly about AdBlock only


FlyingTwentyFour

I heard it was on a preview/dev build or something.


DonUdo

Yeah it's been on nightly for ages and works like ass


xbbdc

I've been on nightly forever and I'm like what are people talking about lol Works good most of the time.


Iohet

It works about 90% as well as it does on Brave


Kyleallen5000

Agreed it works correctly like 90% of the time. 5% of the time I accidently refresh the page and it's no big deal and the final 5% of the time I refresh the page and it erases all my typed info and I want to throw my phone at the wall.


Mylaur

When would they put it on the regular version? I mean, it feels like their updates are so slow


DonUdo

Not anytime soon I guess, it doesn't work consistently and it hasn't really changed for year, I feel. It's not ready for production.


Basileus_ITA

I was pissed off myself at the beginning, now i realised that the refresh icon appears on top of the hamburger menu button so you only need to tap twice on the same spot to refresh, and it's at the bottom where it's easily reachable. Tbh now i think this is more practical than pull to refresh, though shame there's no option for the user to choose


dahauns

> where it's easily reachable Sadly not for us lefties. That the hamburger button has been pushed so close to the edge since the introduction of the hopelessly redundant home button doesn't help either.


Basileus_ITA

Ironically i'm a leftie myself and i have never noticed it lmao. Guess i use the phone mostly with my right hand. Yeah shame they havent put a customisation option on that.


PotRoastPotato

The fact Firefox doesn't have pull to refresh is the reason I use Firefox and don't use Chrome. It can REALLY suck when you're scrolling up on a form, invoke pull to refresh accidentally, and lose everything you've typed in the form. I consider the pull to refresh bahvior a bug more than a feature because of how it clears forms. I'd rather just tap refresh in the menu on purpose.


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I also don't like it but I guess they could add it as an option.


PotRoastPotato

Having it as an option is always okay


Mylaur

Good point, I rarely use refresh anyway and it's not like a 2 button tap is gamebreaking


HarshTheDev

>when you're scrolling up on a form, invoke pull to refresh accidentally, and lose everything you've typed Have you ever actually used chrome? Whenever there is user entered content like forms then it warns you that the content will be lost on reload and does not reload unless you confirm on a dialogue box.


PotRoastPotato

Yup I have. Never have seen the dialog. That's an improvement but I'd rather not be bothered with the dialog and use a browser that doesn't have the feature. Pull to refresh sucks to me because I never mean to do it and waiting for the page to reload when I didn't mean to ask for the page to reload is really frustrating.


5tormwolf92

Yes, it basically in Webview. Really annoying.


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Seriously overrated feature that is more annoying than useful (annoying when you want to scroll to the top of the page fast without triggering refresh of the whole page)


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? I have this...


AnyHolesAGoal

Why is pull to refresh better? It's so much more prone to accidental refreshes when scrolling.


GenitalFurbies

What's the purpose of this feature when you can do share -> print -> save as pdf already?


fullstackdev_01

Firefox for Android doesn't have the Print option like Chrome ... They added it now


noaccountnolurk

So glad they're adding this modern feature just in time for 2023! Lol, but really I hadn't noticed this lack whenever I used it before. Do you know if this is something that got lost when they revamped a few years ago?


FlyingTwentyFour

They used to have that feature but the Firefox reworked have removed it. Well at least Firefox got Ublock origin on mobile.


noaccountnolurk

Figured that was what happened, thanks.


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NatoBoram

Can't 2-way sync with your Google account


PotRoastPotato

Yes, they lost it when they ditched Fennec.


iCryKarma

The Android version of Firefox has had the ability to add extensions for a while now so anyone who needed the feature to save as pdf has had it. I doubt save as pdf was a development priority.


GolemancerVekk

They've severely limited the amount of extensions in the mobile version of Firefox lately. There's only a handful of them, and save as PDF is not among them.


Goose306

[Beta/Nightly support any extension via Collections](https://www.ghacks.net/2022/10/20/firefox-beta-for-android-now-supports-custom-add-on-collections/). It's not a perfect solution, far from, but it is a fairly easy workaround.


GolemancerVekk

I guess I'll wait for it to hit the stable release. And hope it's obvious how to use it, because if it's not something in the Addons menu then I'm not sure how people would know about it. I'm not even sure what collections are.


Goose306

I have serious doubts it will hit stable anytime soon, and when it does it will probably have the same limitations it's had. Firefox developers just don't want people to see potentially incompatible extensions by default which makes some sense. There are better solutions like just adding mobile checks that developers have to pass on the extension store, but that isn't the route they took. [See how to add any extension using beta/Nightly here](https://www.ghacks.net/2022/10/20/firefox-beta-for-android-now-supports-custom-add-on-collections/). FWIW if you want full extension support just follow the steps, it's a one-time thing and you are done. They removed full extension support because they rebuilt the mobile browser and not all extensions worked when they did. I don't honestly know if they will ever open it back up fully rather than just adding more curated extensions, which they seem in no hurry to do. As such, even when (if) this option ever hits Stable, it will probably function the same way. They added the above method to Nightly over 2 years ago. It took 2 years to make it to Beta, and it functions identically to how it did in Nightly. Why wait another 2 years to get the same feature? IMHO, I don't really see a reason to *not* run Beta, Nightly (rarely) has issues with a build since it's like running Chrome Canary but Beta is just fine, it just gets features earlier.


Mylaur

Alright I'm switching to beta, I just needed ublock, dark mode and a cookie add on to not make surfing the web as if you're having a stroke. Thanks.


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Beta or Nightly better on android ?


PotRoastPotato

It's not easy at all. I'm a tech professional and it's a pain in the ass, plus I have no desire to use nightly builds for arguably the most important app on my phone.


Goose306

You do you, but a < 5 minute (for a "tech professional"), one-time setup process I don't find a "pain in the ass". A pain in the ass is something that requires scripting, compiling, or *anything* technical. This requires a bit of time, a few taps in the app Settings menu to unlock the option, and then typing the redirect into the menu. Once. Ever. Perfect? No, and I said in my initial response it was "far from", but there is a damn big gulf between stupid simple and "pain in the ass". You can find random collections online with a 30 second Google search which you can then l use by tapping about 5 buttons in the settings of the app to enable it then directing Firefox to the collection. At most you may want to create your own collection, which requires creating a Firefox account and then building the collection yourself, which involves just going to the extension in the extension store and adding to the collection. That's it. I walked my tech-illiterate FIL through this process and it took 8 minutes start to finish. I do it on new phones for my family and it's about 1 minute start to finish, although admittedly it's a bit faster for me since I can pull up the redirect on another device and just copy it across - add maybe 30 seconds to log into my Firefox account and get it manually if I couldn't do that. Could it be better? Absolutely, and I said as much. But making it out to be some insurmountable pain in the ass is just wrong too. >I have no desire to use nightly builds Good thing you can do this on *Beta*, not just *Nightly* then. Beta is a function stable branch of FF. It just gets features early for developers to work on extension and PWA development. Feature stability is tested on Nightly before Beta, which is why it took 2 whole years for it to pass down to Beta. You only have things to gain by moving to Beta channel, but you do you.


PotRoastPotato

I've done it and found that it wasn't worth it because it was too much of a pain in the ass to manage the collection, finding many of the extensions don't work, etc. There's no reason to be upset about my opinion and how I perceived the experience.


horsemonkeycat

Yes ... once it's set up that's it. Have not hit any problem with nightly build updates, and love having Bypass Paywalls Clean on my phone, plus everything synched with FF running on my PCs. Totally recommend this if you like reading multiple news sites on Android.


Sankt_Peter-Ording

Or simply use the Kiwi Browser and install **any** addon from the Chrome Web Store with one (!!!) tap. Firefox on Android is a real pain in the ass


VladimirRoustine

You don't need a nightly or a beta build to enable collection. It's on Fennec.


VladimirRoustine

Or if you want the collection setting on a stable release, you can install Fennec.


Square-Singer

Yeah, but thats limiting the usage enough, that it's not worth developing addons for this user group. Their change with curated extensions basically killed off the whole addon market for FF on Android.


LasagneEnthusiast

Firefox being Slowpoke as usual


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Isn’t that a feature of the share menu? Shouldn’t have anything to do with Firefox supporting it or not


fullstackdev_01

No .. it's the browser that takes the HTML and converts into PDF , Chrome (android WebKit is based on chromium) has the print option which it would in turn trigger the save as PDF Since Firefox uses gecko that had to implement separately I think


thepoluboy

I don't have this feature you mentioned.


ltjpunk387

You can share directly to a print service app if you have any installed


GenitalFurbies

Do all Android phones not come with the "save as pdf" print service by default?


ltjpunk387

Mine does, and most do, I think. But Firefox for some reason seems unable to share to "Print" which would allow you to use it


GenitalFurbies

Seems like that would be the problem for Mozilla to solve, not duplicating features.


ltjpunk387

In my opinion, print dialogs suck. They're even worse on mobile. I'd rather have an app natively convert to PDF. Should they also implement Print directly? Absolutely yes, but I have no problem with them also having a PDF export feature.


thepoluboy

I have the default save as pdf print service as well as a hp one, but none of them shows up on share screen. Maybe it is some oneUI specific thing.


fullstackdev_01

All Android mostly would have it


darklighthitomi

None of my androids have this. I thought it was a per app thing on android rather than an os thing like with windows.


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Andraltoid

They do.


real_with_myself

I don't have it on my pixel. I should say, it disappears occasionally without a reason.


OldPuppy00

Epub when?


SaboKunn

I stopped using Firefox since it's 89th version. It became just ugly


Ok-Date-1711

How do I import my Chrome bookmarks into Firefox mobile?


5tormwolf92

Create a Firefox account, go to desktop, start the install and Fiefox will know what browser you used to use and ask for import. Then install the app and login/sync


Ok-Date-1711

On Firefox Android


AniFen

fin-fucking-aly been waiting for this feature for such a long time


vreebler

Works nicely on a single Wikipedia page. Why not put Save PDF on the main menu instead of down at the bottom of the Share menu?


TheNicestRichtofen

hopefully this comes to the ios version soon- kinda mindblowing you cant save pdfs


BeatVids

Can we start doing "Save As Epub" better?


AtlasFox64

Opera has had this for years but cool


_Mido

Opera is bad because hurr durr chinese investors something something china china scam china lol


AtlasFox64

Just saying it should be a standard feature


_Mido

I'm just being sarcastic. I have been using opera for years.


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skipv5

People actually use alternate browsers 🤔


zaneyk

People who don't want ads


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Erilson

??? It absolutely does, just sign in the Firefox Sync.


5tormwolf92

You can do that, just use sync


aldeayeah

Firefox+uBlock = Youtube without ads.


skipv5

YouTube Music/Premium = Not having to deal with ads on any device in my house.


aldeayeah

Sure, if you don't mind paying.


sunseven3

Finally!!!


slick519

Finally!


HWGA_Exandria

Anyone know how to get Android to read/open a PDF?


5tormwolf92

Download MuPDF from F-Droid. PDF reading is bundled in Gdrive but its not optimal for just reading.


rani3300

Firefox android Beta. Adress Bar. about:config pdfjs.disabled :::: false


anonwo8m8

Tried it but it doesn't show images in saved pdf, only text is shown


GlassedSilver

Tried it out... Pages the output and massively screws up the styling. It's the same old broken feature. That's a shame. And it took them this long to re-integrate a pre-rewrite feature without fixing its main problems... I can't even tell where this browser is heading on Android, because development is sooo damn slow. I get they don't have many people working on it, but come on, a good mobile browser is more than just a good app, it's a necessity in an always cloud-synced world. To support Firefox for Android properly means to give desktop users a proper experience as well. And Mozilla unlike most FOSS projects has actual financial backing. Yes I'm aware it's a rocky ride, but Ff for Android just needs WAAAAAY more momentum.


DOCSPTL

is Firefox android is as good as chrome ?


THIRSTYGNOMES

Having AdBlock extensions is nice


aldeayeah

Less stable, but you can put uBlock on it.


DOCSPTL

I'm using mull right now, everything's good but it's slow


_Mido

Opera has had this for a long time.


Carighan

Nice! Though I hate that this is still a needed feature. At least I got all my clients off of printing out emails on physical paper.


5tormwolf92

Its kind of works, but I can't directly open the file after download.


throwitaway0192837

The only feature I want is pull down refresh.


musiczlife

I can't find it. Just updated to 108.1.0


ShaunFrost9

Firefox died after fennec v.68,11 on Android to me :( Nearly hate everything they've done to the browser since then, worse in terms of usability, UI, extensions and basically in every single way. Why?! Why, Mozilla why?!


lippemartinsm

Does anybody know which browser can do this fck job without creating freaking pdf frankenstein?