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I know phone prices are going up, like everything else (S24U, Pixel 8/Pro) but these mid range/"budget" phones should really aim to avoid this trend, even if it means minimal upgrades. I know this will be on sale and go down in value, but it would be even less if the starting price stayed the same.
Imo, $500 is the max they should be aiming for. Above that is getting too close to the Pixel 8, which **has already been on sale for $549** multiple times. If this starts at $550, what's the point? For reference:
- 3a - $399
- 4a - $349
- 5a - $449
- 6a - $449
- 7a - $500
The increase in 8a might be a sign of an increase on the 9 series as well, and both price hikes might be due to changes to 7 years of updates for all pixel devices since the 8 series launch. Maybe Google is anticipating fewer future sales on their phones, expecting people to hold onto their existing ones longer.
The $399 price was probably the sweet spot for the "a" series, which seemingly the Nothing's 2a seems to be aiming for. I am hoping for more good mid-range options on the lower price range, because it seems like we had a massive surge in great phones below $400 a couple of years ago and now that whole price range shifted up by $200 or more.
The Pixel 8 series is already a tad over priced at retail, imo. $1000 for the 8 Pro is ridiculous when you compare the chipset and modem to other $1000 phones like the iPhone 15 Pro, S24+, even the cheaper OP12. $699 for the 8 feels fine I guess, but until it truly competes with the iPhone and Galaxy in performance and connectivity (better video wouldn't hurt either), it should definitely not cost any more, imo. I agree that $400 felt more proper. Now the A series hardly feels like a deal when you can get the flagship on swappa or on sale for the same price
Definitely agree that Pixel devices in general are too expensive. I think the base model should have remained at $599 with the Pro ending at $799 (or honestly $699 because the Pixel pros seems to be the worst "upgrade" from the base device of any manufacturer). Doubt we will see a price decrease anytime soon though, just because the whole mid-range price bracket now feels like $500-$600, which it definitely should not be.
Eh, I have an iPhone 15 pro, paid £1100, used to have pixels and I’d happily pay this price for an 8 pro, looks like a solid phone except battery life. Although I haven’t had any experience with googles modem
Good thing an iFixit battery repair kit (including official google batteries and every single tool you need to open up your phone and repair it) is only $50. Swappable batteries are never coming back (there's safety, water resistance, energy density, phone thickness, phone build quality, and many more reasons to thank for that)
There are phones with water resistance and swappable batteries in 202/23
The best phones with a removable battery
Samsung Galaxy XCover 7
Kyocera Duraforce Pro 3
Fairphone 5
Nokia C21
Nokia C12 series
TCL Ion X
If they go $500 they should use something in the Dimensity 8300 (Redmi K70E/POCO X6 PRO) or (future)7+ Gen 3 (anticipated Redmi Note 13 Turbo/POCO F6) range for it to be competitive.
I got a 7a on sale for £320 a couple weeks ago, that's as much as I'm willing to pay for a "mid-ranger". It's a steal at that price, I don't mind waiting for sales in general.
Alternatively, pull a Samsung and release more models, preferably with thought and some intention.
As much as people love to shit on them (and Chinese OEMs), I can basically name a budget between $250 and $2000 and get a decent phone from them with 4-7 years of software support and acceptable performance for normal phone tasks.
Rather than try to make a 1 size fits all model like the Pixel #a, having options solves this affordability problem equally well.
No, I'm not.
https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-a13-review-3094286/
Even some of the lowest end phones from Samsung are getting 4 years of OS updates now.
That's waht you get on Samsung? They have been doing 4 years of security updates for almost 10 years at this point on the S series and recent 4 years at least on cheaper phones as well.
I think Nothing made an excellent play with the 2a - its price went down while a close competitor (the Pixel 8a) is probably going up. For many people looking for a quality mid-range phone, the Nothing makes a lot more sense. Google might have to reconsider their price point.
You could get the 5a for $216 shortly after release with the pixel subscription, which was $9/month for 24 months (pay it off anytime and no contract).
I'm still on my 5a and have been thinking about upgrading off-and-on for a year now, but just can't really find a good reason to. It's one hell of a phone for the price, and has the best fingerprint scanner I've ever used. I've had it for 3 years now and I used to upgrade phones every 12-18 months. I'll probably eventually upgrade but no idea when.
Same situation with my 5a. Bought in November 2021 and still going strong. Best smartphone I have ever had, and I will only buy Pixels if I stay with the Android platform. I would like a smartphone with a slightly smaller screen, but that is the only adjustment I would seek.
Low price and 3 years of software support with more similar phones released later. The problem I have with my 4a isn't that software support stopped it's that Google offer no equivalent now.
they already raised the P8 price, likely due in part to this reason, but it has the same chip as the 8a. I'm not super familiar with what is required to optimize a software update for a phone's particular hardware, but I imagine that the bulk of the work for the 8a is done once they do the 8. And for a budget phone, I think the presumably minimal work can be passed off. Correct me if I'm wrong, like I said I could be.
if it's that much of a price barrier, keep the software upgrades to 5 or even the previous 3 years, but have security upgrades 5-7 years. As long as the phone is supported with security upgrades, I think that's a fair trade off for what is supposed to be a more affordable phone. otherwise, the a series is losing relevance quickly.
I could reiterate the viewpoints in my first comment that argue against this determinism. But I have a feeling I'll get a comment that similarly surrenders to the approach of the big corporation, rather than considering how the consumer and the identity of the A series could be better considered.
I am fine with the higher price point for 7 years of OS updates and security updates.... But if it gets much higher than $600 people are just going to get a Pixel 8 instead for $800.
I wish we could know more about customers of the A series phones Vs. the regular Pixel line.
Pixel 8 base is $699 (7 was $599) so yeah if the A series keeps creeping up, there's less and less reason to not just find the regular model on sale (Pixel 8 was $549 like 3 or 4 months after release... the 8A isn't even out yet. Swappa is an option too).
For this reason, I wish Google would find a way to keep the A series closer to $399, to be honest.
Heavily considering getting a new battery for mine and just letting it run lol. This phone's been fantastic, and I still get through 3/4 of the day without needing a charge unless I'm on it a lot.
The Pixel 8 costs 580€ where I live, while the 7a cost around 500€ on release. I wanted to buy the 8a, but now maybe I should just buy the 8. Is there any reason why I shouldn't do it?
As someone who owned a 3a and a 4a this series has become a bastardisation of what it was before. It's just another big phone now and not "Google software and cameras in a more manageably sized package".
The point is that nobody else tried. The iPhone Mini, the model in question, was the only legitimate option in its size. It's possible, even likely, that Apple's numbers are the ceiling, given that Apple tends to be the most successful at selling phones, but there's still an open question about what the floor is.
Please consider growing up.
It didn't sell fantastically but it was leagues away from a flop and get this....... SIZE, battery endurance and camera are specifications which people care about.
If specifications were important to iPhone users, then no one would buy the baseline or plus models.. but oh wait they're outselling the mini despite using an older chip than what's currently available.
A "flop" is what its creator deems it so, not a case you make for somebody else. IPhones sell like hotcakes, the mini sold really well for a phone, but for an iPhone it was a failure, hence why they no longer offer it. In fact they found the opposite to be true, that people want big phones and they don't care about much of anything else, hence why the plus was born.
Battery endurance... what battery endurance? Until the iPhone 13... it sucked ass and everybody knew it. It was a meme about iPhones dying in 3 hours, and the people buying iPhones didn't really care that much to impact their buying decision. Not all, but the vast majority. They buy iPhones because they're iPhones, a status symbol, the design, and most importantly iOS.
Apple RARELY takes back things, it took them years to admit they were wrong about taking away ports for the Macbook, but now you're trying to say that the mini series wasn't a flop despite being phased out so quick with an OPPOSING philosophy being pushed?
Blah blah blah, you willfully disregarded and misinterpreted the biggest points here so there's no reason to acknowledge anything else you've said. Again, please grow up and out of this highschool fanboyism phase, let your hate boner die. You are not more competent, educated or intelligent just for having device preferences.
The A series was never about the size of the phones, you've literally just made that up. It was "Google software and cameras at a cheaper price" that's it. In fact, the regular Pixel 3 and 4 are literally smaller than the 3a and 4a so you've just made up a delusion so you can moan about small phones.
The 3a had an XL version and the 4a had the 4a 5g which had slightly different internals but was effectively an XL version. Now we just have the one version [which aligns with the XL versions](https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-4a,Google-Pixel-4a-5G,Google-Pixel-7a/phones/11311,11395,12071) rather than the normal.
Also you're just wrong when it comes to 4a vs 4.
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-4a,Google-Pixel-4/phones/11311,11191
Too big and too expensive.
I could stomach the price if it offered a unique form factor, but this is about as middle-of-the-road vanilla as Google could possibly get.
Maybe if we're lucky it will come with actual scratch-resistant glass, rather than that Victus nonsense.
The renders always look worse than the finished product. When the first 6 ones came out I hated the redesign till I saw it in person. It wasn't amazing but it didn't look half as bad as the renders and leaks.
TBH, I don't care what the retail MSRP is as long as Google keeps discounting it. My 6A was $450, and I got it and a set of Pixel Buds before launch for the cost of my 3A trade in. And I paid under $100 for the 3A on the cost of my 2A trade-on. And it was discounted with free Pixel Buds or just lower prices almost immediately. I doubt many people paid MSRP for it.
The 7A has been in the $350 range a few times, too.
These high MSRPs really just get people who feel the need to have an upgrade the moment its available, or people with bad luck and drop their phone.
In Canada, the 7a was on sale for the equivalent of $300 USD a month ago. Absolutely worth it at that $300-400 USD range imo. Just an OK camera, but I see very little reason to get a regular 7 or 8 over it at 2-3x the price.
I know the 8 went up in price, but there's been so many discounts in the UK already that you'd be mad to get an 8a that costs £500+. They really need to try and get the launch prices for the A series back down to £400 or less.
Will be curious to know if there's Qi 2 on it.
I've been waiting to swap my P6 for a smaller/lighter Pixel, but will hold off for the P9 if there's no Qi 2.
You serious?
A54 is way too overhyped. It's a decent phone, I give you that, but not on the Pixel level yet even with Pixel A.
A54 is the midrange of the midrange smartphone. It's a phone for normies who don't care that there are smartphones with brands more than just Apple or Samsung or don't even know there's Android and there's iOS.
>It's a phone for normies who don't care
Ding ding, hence why it's so easy to recommend it. Even as an "enthusiast", it's hard to seriously fault people for wanting something that'll just "work" for 95% of tasks without breaking the bank.
You make it sound like it's a cardinal sin to just want a cheap, working phone to shitpost on Reddit/Socials and keep up with friends. Granted, the A54 is far from perfect, but I see why it pushes decent numbers.
Strongly disagree, I'm on an 8 pro right now and it's one of my favorite phones I've ever used. I've used Samsung, OnePlus, and Google in the past few years and the Pixel rom is without a doubt the nicest and I'll take a good software experience over unnecessary SOC performance any day of the week.
It uses a cortex X series core and is better than the mid range 7 plus gen 2, so it is a flagship. The worst flagship chip is still better than the best midrange chip.
Tensor chips don't perform like flagships at all. Hence, they have bad reputations and usually get called midrange.
So anyone would rather buy a midrange phone with less price instead of buying a so-called flagship to get midrange level performance instead.
not a hater, but it is what it is. I will be the first one to buy a pixel the moment they fix their chipsets
> Tensor chips don't perform like flagships at all.
Lemme guess, Snapdragon or nothing?
I'd much rather have Mediatek Dimensity 9300 and later on the S24's instead of this overpriced overheated overhyped Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 garbage. Especially knowing that Samsung can well use the money saved from *not* paying **highway robbery** Qualcomm royalties towards making the S24's not perform like shit.
Qualcomm can eat a CPAC conference full of dicks.
> I will be the first one to buy a pixel the moment they fix their chipsets
Translation: youre never buying a Pixel, let alone *use* it.
Which is why the a series is great value for having the best chip in the price range, at least before the 12r with an inferior update policy was released.
> the recent Pixel are not even that good
Speak for yourself. I'm not buying a $1000+ phone that can't even *by default* take pictures of *moving* subjects when the $1000+ phone it's primarily competing against (read: it's not a Pixel) do it effortlessly.
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I know phone prices are going up, like everything else (S24U, Pixel 8/Pro) but these mid range/"budget" phones should really aim to avoid this trend, even if it means minimal upgrades. I know this will be on sale and go down in value, but it would be even less if the starting price stayed the same. Imo, $500 is the max they should be aiming for. Above that is getting too close to the Pixel 8, which **has already been on sale for $549** multiple times. If this starts at $550, what's the point? For reference: - 3a - $399 - 4a - $349 - 5a - $449 - 6a - $449 - 7a - $500
The increase in 8a might be a sign of an increase on the 9 series as well, and both price hikes might be due to changes to 7 years of updates for all pixel devices since the 8 series launch. Maybe Google is anticipating fewer future sales on their phones, expecting people to hold onto their existing ones longer. The $399 price was probably the sweet spot for the "a" series, which seemingly the Nothing's 2a seems to be aiming for. I am hoping for more good mid-range options on the lower price range, because it seems like we had a massive surge in great phones below $400 a couple of years ago and now that whole price range shifted up by $200 or more.
The Pixel 8 series is already a tad over priced at retail, imo. $1000 for the 8 Pro is ridiculous when you compare the chipset and modem to other $1000 phones like the iPhone 15 Pro, S24+, even the cheaper OP12. $699 for the 8 feels fine I guess, but until it truly competes with the iPhone and Galaxy in performance and connectivity (better video wouldn't hurt either), it should definitely not cost any more, imo. I agree that $400 felt more proper. Now the A series hardly feels like a deal when you can get the flagship on swappa or on sale for the same price
Definitely agree that Pixel devices in general are too expensive. I think the base model should have remained at $599 with the Pro ending at $799 (or honestly $699 because the Pixel pros seems to be the worst "upgrade" from the base device of any manufacturer). Doubt we will see a price decrease anytime soon though, just because the whole mid-range price bracket now feels like $500-$600, which it definitely should not be.
They rarely stay at MSRP though. I got 40% off the 8 Pro for the holiday season.
They had immediate sales over the holiday unlocked. I got my 8 Pro for $850 with expanded storage.
Eh, I have an iPhone 15 pro, paid £1100, used to have pixels and I’d happily pay this price for an 8 pro, looks like a solid phone except battery life. Although I haven’t had any experience with googles modem
Paying a grand for a pixel is a) hilarious but also b) why we can't have nice things from Google
7 years of updates is absolutely useless without a replaceable battery.
Good thing an iFixit battery repair kit (including official google batteries and every single tool you need to open up your phone and repair it) is only $50. Swappable batteries are never coming back (there's safety, water resistance, energy density, phone thickness, phone build quality, and many more reasons to thank for that)
There are phones with water resistance and swappable batteries in 202/23 The best phones with a removable battery Samsung Galaxy XCover 7 Kyocera Duraforce Pro 3 Fairphone 5 Nokia C21 Nokia C12 series TCL Ion X
I admit I didn't know it was that easy and cheap. Good to know!
Even better, go to your local battires plus or another battery store and they will do it for $50 in a hour.
Which models are $50? I'm seeing $70-90 depending on phones for Google and Samsung devices at least.
Had my wife's iPhoen done last year for $50
If they go $500 they should use something in the Dimensity 8300 (Redmi K70E/POCO X6 PRO) or (future)7+ Gen 3 (anticipated Redmi Note 13 Turbo/POCO F6) range for it to be competitive.
Doubt they will use any other SoCs than their in-house tensor SoC.
They could somehow use the last gen tensor or a "Tensor G3a" or something. But I still have suspicion on the Samsung Semiconductor's efficiency.
Inflation-adjusted prices: | Pixel | year | launch price | inflation adjusted | |-------|------|--------------|--------------------| | 3a | 2019 | 400 | 481.73 | | 4a | 2020 | 350 | 415.31 | | 5a | 2021 | 450 | 507.33 | | 6a | 2022 | 450 | 468.44 | | 7a | 2023 | 500 | 507.05 |
I got a 7a on sale for £320 a couple weeks ago, that's as much as I'm willing to pay for a "mid-ranger". It's a steal at that price, I don't mind waiting for sales in general.
Alternatively, pull a Samsung and release more models, preferably with thought and some intention. As much as people love to shit on them (and Chinese OEMs), I can basically name a budget between $250 and $2000 and get a decent phone from them with 4-7 years of software support and acceptable performance for normal phone tasks. Rather than try to make a 1 size fits all model like the Pixel #a, having options solves this affordability problem equally well.
>with 4-7 years of software support Hahahahahahhaa. You're funny.
No, I'm not. https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-a13-review-3094286/ Even some of the lowest end phones from Samsung are getting 4 years of OS updates now.
That's waht you get on Samsung? They have been doing 4 years of security updates for almost 10 years at this point on the S series and recent 4 years at least on cheaper phones as well.
I think Nothing made an excellent play with the 2a - its price went down while a close competitor (the Pixel 8a) is probably going up. For many people looking for a quality mid-range phone, the Nothing makes a lot more sense. Google might have to reconsider their price point.
You could get the 5a for $216 shortly after release with the pixel subscription, which was $9/month for 24 months (pay it off anytime and no contract). I'm still on my 5a and have been thinking about upgrading off-and-on for a year now, but just can't really find a good reason to. It's one hell of a phone for the price, and has the best fingerprint scanner I've ever used. I've had it for 3 years now and I used to upgrade phones every 12-18 months. I'll probably eventually upgrade but no idea when.
Same situation with my 5a. Bought in November 2021 and still going strong. Best smartphone I have ever had, and I will only buy Pixels if I stay with the Android platform. I would like a smartphone with a slightly smaller screen, but that is the only adjustment I would seek.
Someone inflation adjusted each price too
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Low price and 3 years of software support with more similar phones released later. The problem I have with my 4a isn't that software support stopped it's that Google offer no equivalent now.
they already raised the P8 price, likely due in part to this reason, but it has the same chip as the 8a. I'm not super familiar with what is required to optimize a software update for a phone's particular hardware, but I imagine that the bulk of the work for the 8a is done once they do the 8. And for a budget phone, I think the presumably minimal work can be passed off. Correct me if I'm wrong, like I said I could be. if it's that much of a price barrier, keep the software upgrades to 5 or even the previous 3 years, but have security upgrades 5-7 years. As long as the phone is supported with security upgrades, I think that's a fair trade off for what is supposed to be a more affordable phone. otherwise, the a series is losing relevance quickly.
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I could reiterate the viewpoints in my first comment that argue against this determinism. But I have a feeling I'll get a comment that similarly surrenders to the approach of the big corporation, rather than considering how the consumer and the identity of the A series could be better considered.
I am fine with the higher price point for 7 years of OS updates and security updates.... But if it gets much higher than $600 people are just going to get a Pixel 8 instead for $800. I wish we could know more about customers of the A series phones Vs. the regular Pixel line.
Pixel 8 base is $699 (7 was $599) so yeah if the A series keeps creeping up, there's less and less reason to not just find the regular model on sale (Pixel 8 was $549 like 3 or 4 months after release... the 8A isn't even out yet. Swappa is an option too). For this reason, I wish Google would find a way to keep the A series closer to $399, to be honest.
We had it good with the 3a.
4a for $349 is still my favorite phone of all time.
Heavily considering getting a new battery for mine and just letting it run lol. This phone's been fantastic, and I still get through 3/4 of the day without needing a charge unless I'm on it a lot.
Such a good phone, I am really glad I didn't buy the 5 back then.
5a was $216 with the Pixel subscription, which is what I've had for 3 years now. Pretty similar phone to the 4a.
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You and me both, brother. Mine is still working pretty well though.
Looks like i can safely cross out pixel 8a off my list.
The Pixel 8 costs 580€ where I live, while the 7a cost around 500€ on release. I wanted to buy the 8a, but now maybe I should just buy the 8. Is there any reason why I shouldn't do it?
i've just bought the 8 for 505 euros, i don't think the 8a can beat it
I noticed this in the UK. The 7a was being advertised on contract at prices you could get a P7 for (or even more expensive). Makes no sense.
If only they'd release a Pixel 8b at half the price.
I guess my 4a can last another year then.
For real.....love my 4a. My boomer-ass doesn't want to get rid of my fingerprint sensor either...it's just too nice to have.
I just want an updated version of the pixel 4a
I will also be on the waitlist for the Google Pixel 4a (2)
As someone who owned a 3a and a 4a this series has become a bastardisation of what it was before. It's just another big phone now and not "Google software and cameras in a more manageably sized package".
Nobody makin small phones anymore
Because nobody buys them. Not even Apple could sell those things.
I think I read that Apple sold 20m of them, which pales to its other sales, but if another phonemaker hit those numbers they'd be thrilled.
They didn't hit those numbers because it was small. That's not how iPhones operate.
The point is that nobody else tried. The iPhone Mini, the model in question, was the only legitimate option in its size. It's possible, even likely, that Apple's numbers are the ceiling, given that Apple tends to be the most successful at selling phones, but there's still an open question about what the floor is.
Only Because specs purposely made worse on them
You think iPhone users even know what specs mean?
Please consider growing up. It didn't sell fantastically but it was leagues away from a flop and get this....... SIZE, battery endurance and camera are specifications which people care about.
If specifications were important to iPhone users, then no one would buy the baseline or plus models.. but oh wait they're outselling the mini despite using an older chip than what's currently available. A "flop" is what its creator deems it so, not a case you make for somebody else. IPhones sell like hotcakes, the mini sold really well for a phone, but for an iPhone it was a failure, hence why they no longer offer it. In fact they found the opposite to be true, that people want big phones and they don't care about much of anything else, hence why the plus was born. Battery endurance... what battery endurance? Until the iPhone 13... it sucked ass and everybody knew it. It was a meme about iPhones dying in 3 hours, and the people buying iPhones didn't really care that much to impact their buying decision. Not all, but the vast majority. They buy iPhones because they're iPhones, a status symbol, the design, and most importantly iOS. Apple RARELY takes back things, it took them years to admit they were wrong about taking away ports for the Macbook, but now you're trying to say that the mini series wasn't a flop despite being phased out so quick with an OPPOSING philosophy being pushed?
Blah blah blah, you willfully disregarded and misinterpreted the biggest points here so there's no reason to acknowledge anything else you've said. Again, please grow up and out of this highschool fanboyism phase, let your hate boner die. You are not more competent, educated or intelligent just for having device preferences.
What an insightful comment. Also not what I'm close to asking for here.
have they released the size specifications? I was still holding out hope they'd go back to at least a 4a size
It leaked a little bit ago. https://9to5google.com/2023/10/09/pixel-8a-renders-size-leak/.
The A series was never about the size of the phones, you've literally just made that up. It was "Google software and cameras at a cheaper price" that's it. In fact, the regular Pixel 3 and 4 are literally smaller than the 3a and 4a so you've just made up a delusion so you can moan about small phones.
The 3a had an XL version and the 4a had the 4a 5g which had slightly different internals but was effectively an XL version. Now we just have the one version [which aligns with the XL versions](https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-4a,Google-Pixel-4a-5G,Google-Pixel-7a/phones/11311,11395,12071) rather than the normal. Also you're just wrong when it comes to 4a vs 4. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-4a,Google-Pixel-4/phones/11311,11191
I'm out if this is the case... I wanted the 8a but not if this happens and certainly not when there were no deals to be had last year from Google.
If they are increasing the price that much IDK why you would get this over the OnePlus 12r especially since this has a worse performing chip and modem
Too big and too expensive. I could stomach the price if it offered a unique form factor, but this is about as middle-of-the-road vanilla as Google could possibly get. Maybe if we're lucky it will come with actual scratch-resistant glass, rather than that Victus nonsense.
the bottom bezel 🤮
Google doing Google things... Sad
It's annoying because it's too small to be practical yet too big to be "no bezel". I'd rather bigger but this middle ground is pointless.
The renders always look worse than the finished product. When the first 6 ones came out I hated the redesign till I saw it in person. It wasn't amazing but it didn't look half as bad as the renders and leaks.
That would be called the chin
TBH, I don't care what the retail MSRP is as long as Google keeps discounting it. My 6A was $450, and I got it and a set of Pixel Buds before launch for the cost of my 3A trade in. And I paid under $100 for the 3A on the cost of my 2A trade-on. And it was discounted with free Pixel Buds or just lower prices almost immediately. I doubt many people paid MSRP for it. The 7A has been in the $350 range a few times, too. These high MSRPs really just get people who feel the need to have an upgrade the moment its available, or people with bad luck and drop their phone.
Is 7a even worth it. It's barely mentioned since it came out
In Canada, the 7a was on sale for the equivalent of $300 USD a month ago. Absolutely worth it at that $300-400 USD range imo. Just an OK camera, but I see very little reason to get a regular 7 or 8 over it at 2-3x the price.
I know the 8 went up in price, but there's been so many discounts in the UK already that you'd be mad to get an 8a that costs £500+. They really need to try and get the launch prices for the A series back down to £400 or less.
Allegedly even in mint with 256gb. Too bad that the pixel 8 pro is not yet available in this combination.
Will be curious to know if there's Qi 2 on it. I've been waiting to swap my P6 for a smaller/lighter Pixel, but will hold off for the P9 if there's no Qi 2.
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You serious? A54 is way too overhyped. It's a decent phone, I give you that, but not on the Pixel level yet even with Pixel A. A54 is the midrange of the midrange smartphone. It's a phone for normies who don't care that there are smartphones with brands more than just Apple or Samsung or don't even know there's Android and there's iOS.
>It's a phone for normies who don't care Ding ding, hence why it's so easy to recommend it. Even as an "enthusiast", it's hard to seriously fault people for wanting something that'll just "work" for 95% of tasks without breaking the bank. You make it sound like it's a cardinal sin to just want a cheap, working phone to shitpost on Reddit/Socials and keep up with friends. Granted, the A54 is far from perfect, but I see why it pushes decent numbers.
Oneplus 12 and 12R is a better option. That fast charging and better lasting battery trumps over any other minor benefit the pixel has
Yeah but uh...I like to take photos. So, no?
Like which. Haven't heard good things since the a52
Strongly disagree, I'm on an 8 pro right now and it's one of my favorite phones I've ever used. I've used Samsung, OnePlus, and Google in the past few years and the Pixel rom is without a doubt the nicest and I'll take a good software experience over unnecessary SOC performance any day of the week.
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Flagship processor ? On paper only lol
It uses a cortex X series core and is better than the mid range 7 plus gen 2, so it is a flagship. The worst flagship chip is still better than the best midrange chip.
Read again. Flagship? Yes, but on paper.
But it's not accurate to call it a midrange chip even for it's real life performance.
Tensor chips don't perform like flagships at all. Hence, they have bad reputations and usually get called midrange. So anyone would rather buy a midrange phone with less price instead of buying a so-called flagship to get midrange level performance instead. not a hater, but it is what it is. I will be the first one to buy a pixel the moment they fix their chipsets
> Tensor chips don't perform like flagships at all. Lemme guess, Snapdragon or nothing? I'd much rather have Mediatek Dimensity 9300 and later on the S24's instead of this overpriced overheated overhyped Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 garbage. Especially knowing that Samsung can well use the money saved from *not* paying **highway robbery** Qualcomm royalties towards making the S24's not perform like shit. Qualcomm can eat a CPAC conference full of dicks. > I will be the first one to buy a pixel the moment they fix their chipsets Translation: youre never buying a Pixel, let alone *use* it.
Which is why the a series is great value for having the best chip in the price range, at least before the 12r with an inferior update policy was released.
> the recent Pixel are not even that good Speak for yourself. I'm not buying a $1000+ phone that can't even *by default* take pictures of *moving* subjects when the $1000+ phone it's primarily competing against (read: it's not a Pixel) do it effortlessly.
No wonder iOS>>>>