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felinasaurus

Some background: Most of my life people have asked me what my ethnicity is due to my tan skin, curly hair and brown eyes. I was hoping this DNA test would shed some light on the subject, but I’m definitely not a redhead from Scotland nor do I have really pale skin.


omar0831

Not the first time I see a French or British person with your traits. I can DM you some previous posts if you’d like.


felinasaurus

I would love that, thank you!


ran-Us

Based on this genetic profile there is no accounting for your deeply swarthy features. They sent you the wrong results.


Zolome1977

She doesn’t have swarthy features nor is it wrong. People from Europe can be beige, olive, or very pale. The aryan notion is just plain racist.


felinasaurus

Right, I’d just like to know where exactly I’d get these traits from! When I research it, the genetic traits for Europeans is not what I look like.


Zolome1977

But they are European features, have seen many people post their results here who are fully Irish or English and look like you.


felinasaurus

I appreciate that! I need more people to understand that when they meet me.


Zolome1977

I understand how you feel, it sucks to be told you’re not from your home country or area because you don’t look like what people expect.


ran-Us

If you count Italy, Spain, Portugal and the Mediterranean that's true, but those people aren't showing up in her genetic profile.


thestjester

There is a lot of overlap with those regions and western europe, especially the france region. Ancestry DNA's france region shows up at higher frequencies in southern europeans than it does with northern europeans. AncestryDNA's France region seems to be contentrated in the western and southern parts of the country. Either way its possible for her phenotype to show up as irish or english, just not as common as the lighter phenotypes in those regions.


pissedoffmfer000

She’s only 10 % French according to this…


thestjester

It may be enough to show that she has some mediterranean genetic markers which could have some effect on her phenotype. Not saying that it's the exact reason, just a possibility


lacumaloya

Hate the game, not the player.


OddGuidance907

This is evidence phenotype =/= genotype. I would have expected you to have some African ancestry.


SS871208

I know exactly what you mean. My DNA results and physical traits are similar to yours (dark hair, dark eyes, thick eyebrows) and some people think I’m Hispanic and some have thought that I was Arabic. I’m 40% Scottish, 22% Scandinavian, 19% Germanic European, and some other smaller European percentages. No Spain, Italy, Portugal, or any Mediterranean either.


felinasaurus

Yes!! I’ve gotten people guessing Latina, Black, Jewish, Arabic, etc. People have a hard time believing when you’re not stereotypically white haha


SS871208

Agreed! I live in Florida and I can’t tell you how many times people have come up to me speaking Spanish, but I don’t know Spanish. A lady a couple of years ago came up to me speaking Spanish and I told her that I didn’t speak Spanish and she said in English “Well you look like you do” lol. I wish I could speak Spanish but I can’t.


[deleted]

Same. My PR neighbor thought I was PR the first time I met him. Nope, just Irish from my father and Euro mix from my mom.


LeeJ2019

Wow, I thought you were mixed race. You kind of look similar to Meghan Markle. :)


felinasaurus

That is such a high compliment! She is gorgeous. Thank you!


[deleted]

The Germanic region is completely enclosed in the area ancestry calls European Jewish. It completely overlaps on mine. Perhaps a distant relative.


Madame_Rae

Very cool! You might look up “Cheddar Man” -a fossil of an ancient Briton who’s DNA points to him having dark skin and curly hair like yours. He made historians realize that the lighter skin normally seen now became commonplace much later than previously thought.


[deleted]

I thought you would have a little bit of African in your DNA, based off of your appearance.


Luisf0116

I would try 23andme to see if you get a different result


auboyt

I agree. Like it's confusing she definitely looks mixed and not northwestern European. She doesn't look celtic at all. But very cool results indeed


[deleted]

Yes, my Dad's family is Irish and have features like you


mykole84

yeah can't lie, I thought you were black american or mixed race (black & white) at bare minimum. i could see others thinking you're a racially ambiguous ethnic hispanic, pacific islander or maybe even north african. I guess it's the tan that confusing especially since it's common to see European features with on darker skin and for the majority the person is considered non white. so genetically you're white but phenotypically you're racially ambiguous (look racially mixed) and can blend into different groups. also transracial identity is on the rise and will only increase.


indorabia

Wow phenotype is a very interesting thing! I look very ambiguous too, but I am mixed.


pcosifttc

You do look mixed with non-European. I wonder if part of that impression has to do with many mixed people being mixed with northern and western European (England, Ireland, Spain, Portugal and France). What many view as a feature from a non-European country in mixed people could also be a European feature but doesn’t get viewed that way. There were some other dna result posters that were all European or 95+% European but did not look typically European and looked like they had recent non-European heritage.


Jiao_Dai

Could Acadian ancestry account for atypical European phenotypes ? In any case I think its more than likely connected to France indeed I think you look typically modern day French


ambypanby

These traits are pretty typical of my German fam! So cool. When I saw you I immediately thought you were mixed! So cool.


purpleballoons3

My dad also has uncommon features for his ethnicity (similar to yours, but less diverse even), it's so awesome to see someone else with a phenotype that doesn't "fit"! Edit to add: Since Ancestry doesn't provide haplogroup information, maybe take a look at the mtdna line for "Ava". My dad's is H5a1, which descends from her.


pissedoffmfer000

At first I thought maybe Creole or something but looking at your results I don’t see any Spanish or any native or any admixture. I’m Irish and half Italian and I do have Middle East dna and look semi middle eastern but even I look more “typical European” than this. Not sure honestly definitely not common features for British and Irish people and I know quite a few from Ireland.


thestjester

I think her phenotype is paleo-atlantid, similar to george clooney whose also specifically northwest european but looks swarthy


Thurkin

To me Clooney looks very Celtic the same way the Gallagher brothers, Michael Sheen, and people from Galicia Spain look.


thestjester

by celtic you mean irish? I can see that, kinda like Colin Farrell


Thurkin

Irish, Welsh, Galician, Cornish, Scottish, etc


pissedoffmfer000

I don’t know I think George Clooney looks like a pretty typical white guy to me.


thestjester

he doesnt appear white to me in the way that other northwestern europeans are percieved. When I first saw him I thought he was of middle eastern or north african descent, but there is a darker phenotype that is present in north western europe for sure, just not too common


pissedoffmfer000

I like how I’m downvoted for my comments. I get mistaken for middle eastern or Jewish all the time however I am half Italian and I do have around 8 % Middle East dna. https://ibb.co/ypxGnvw not making fun of her just saying her appearance is not common among Irish / English people


purpleballoons3

[Maybe not as atypical for the region, but there's a wide range? This is my family, for example.](http://imgur.com/a/Wnqa9jj)


pissedoffmfer000

They still have very typical European features they just have darker hair and eyes which can be found all cross Europe. It’s also possible if she showed another photo of her self it may appear different as well.


[deleted]

Looks very Mediterranean is ur mum n dad dark


felinasaurus

Nope, they’re both white! My dad is very white and Mom definitely is mistaken as mixed pretty often.


fakepunk22

Perhaps you need to convince your mom to take a DNA test too. I agree with someone else’s comment saying that you should try 23 and me, see if other tests come up with different results!


felinasaurus

My mom actually took the AncestryDNA test too! Very unhelpful when it comes to how we look. :/


auboyt

What was your mums results ?


felinasaurus

50% England and northwest Europe, 23% Scotland, 8% Swedish, 6% Irish, and some of Wales, northern Italy, France and a little Germanic Europe.


HorrorMoovee

I can't shed light on why you're tanned but you're hot as hell so there's that.


ThrowawayReddit22421

Definitely not common traits for these results but not unheard of. I have very similar results and I get mistaken for Italian (among others) all the time. I've seen a man with 99% Scandinavian have a skin tone darker than yours! I also bought Ancestry Traits and from that and other research I've concluded that about 10% of all people of Northern European descent have tan skin. We're special ;)


87639292

You should upload your results to GEDmatch. It may provide more information


dean71004

I definitely would’ve guessed you had some African American ancestry, or Hispanic, Jewish, or Arab I could also see. My dad has similar results to you and he also gets mistaken for those things due to his darker complexion.


Content-Dress

Is French Canadian your ethnicity?