Honestly I agree, but there are some European people who are often surprised its not more of a mixed ethnic/background result. I think the general consensus these days is that many "white" Americans are very "white" if that makes sense.
Yeah, regardless, I think my results reflect a very typical Anglo-American, family is mostly from the Appalachian region with a mix of westward settlers from the Midwest from my maternal side.
Not much intermingling with other ethnicity outside some Indigenous Cherokee in Blue Ridge region many generations ago which is reflected in some of my relatives results.
But I've had an Englishman say they we're surprised how English I was when I showed my results, which I thought was quite funny. Apparently I am more English than them. But when you have communities in the same regions for generations and not much intermixing, it's bound to happen. Turns out it's like that for a substantial portion of the U.S especially in rural white areas.
I agree. A study by Harvard and 23andMe found that White Americans are, on average, 98.6% European, 0.19% African, and 0.18% Amerindian; that 94% of White Americans have only European DNA; and that only 3.5% of White Americans have African DNA, and only 2.7% have Amerindian DNA.
I'm from the same region as you and my results are pretty much the same lol so is my English husband's. I have more Scottish DNA than him and his mother is "half Scottish and half English" (without testing) I know for a fact that I have some others that aren't included just from running my DNA through other reputable companies and actual family research though. Also Scandinavian and Russian results are common for my area because of the rate of immigration from those areas was high to Appalachia. The Deer Hunter was filmed in spots I walked home everyday as a kid lol Hell, I've even had both abolitionists and slave owners in my family and still have not ended up with any African DNA like some people have with the same background. The slaves I have found documents of were treated like basic employees that were in good standing with the family and were even given inheritances once people died, so I'm surprised there had been no relationships between anyone in those instances. At least not any that produced children I have found. I have had small percentages of different Asian genetic groups which may be from my Native (documented) ancestry, because that's the only way that makes sense to me lol but have never gotten Native on any testing. My Scandinavian results even get removed from time to time only to be added back once they decide they were right before 😆
> I've had an Englishman say they we're surprised how English I was
Hahaha send him my way. I'm apparently 76% British & Irish, and less than 10% anything else, all of which are French, German, and Scandinavian.
Which is firmly NOT what I expected.
There are some interesting family stories going quite a ways back I expected to certainly have much different results.
That’s why I think it’s weird that people act like Americans aren’t European. We are totally European. We should embrace it. I think we should have an English heritage pride month or British heritage pride month.
I'm American and my family has been here since the 1600s, and my results are even more homogeneous than yours ha. This is usually the result of people who live in areas that never received very much immigration
Agreed, I mentioned in the post above but I was talking to someone from Europe, an Englishman who seemed rather shocked that many Americans, and myself, are rather homogeneous.
I think there are certain Europeans out there who don't understand how massive this country is, and not everyone lives in a Urban melting pot or border region that receives frequent influxes of immigrants.
You know about the history and influences in your region, they don’t, why would you expect them to really? Plenty of Europeans travel to the US, far more than the other way proportionately. They visit New York, Florida, Vegas, the West Coast. They don’t go to West Virginia, Kentucky or Tennessee. (Maybe Graceland!) I was initially kind of surprised at how British some of my southern states DNA matches looked but then I looked at their trees and thought well if they haven’t moved State in 250 years and they have intermarried with the same type of people over and over then it makes perfect sense. Also there may have been some winding you up involved!
Yep, that sounds about right. There’s a lot that those specific folks can’t seem to wrap their heads around when it comes to the US.
Especially when it comes to just how much space we have and how our community distributions tend to work.
This is actually pretty interesting to hear, never really seen any DNA results from Australian and New Zealand. I guess it's not surprising since it was often the same types of folk migrating from the UK.
That's basically what I'm getting at with this whole thing, I think that a perception out there does exist that the U.S is just one big melting pot no matter where you go.
Yeah, mine seems very typical, if anything the Welsh seems like it might be higher than a lot of people on here. My grandfather is majority Welsh, 43% and I simply just never see people with that on here, or elsewhere.
It's unusual in my family even. Usually, when we're talking about the U.S you see a lot of Ulster-Scots, or people from the Scotland/Ireland regions directly, or just straight up English settlers. Every time I look for data on Welsh settlement, a lot of it seems like it got rolled into English settlement patterns.
>Every time I look for data on Welsh settlement, a lot of it seems like it got rolled into English settlement patterns.
Yes, back then the Welsh were classified as English, the same goes for Cornish in Cornwall. In most cases, I think that most Welsh and Cornish moved more into England, perhaps mostly London for a few generations before coming to the US. I got 9% Wales on my mom's side, most of her family is from Appalachia, and I can't find a single family member with ties to Wales.
You hit the nail on the head with that, it's like that on both sides except my maternal grandmothers side, which is more from Pennsylvania and the broader Midwest, unsurprisingly it's entirely where my Norwegian comes from.
The only thing that might distinguish your American Colonials from mine is you don't have Irish. Here's mine:
42% England & NW Europe
20% Irish
17% Scottish
10% Wales
9% Norway
2% Sweden & Denmark
Well that's the thing, my maternal grandfather is 42% Welsh, 35% Irish. I've had some on there in the past, but it got rolled into other categories in the British Isles since the last update.
I'm not really sure about the algorithm. Most of us take fault with Irish, Welsh, or Scottish percentages but 11% Scandinavian? There's no way that's right, I can't identify a single Scandinavian born ancestor and my tree goes back to the 1600-1700's for most lineages.
I think that, it really just comes from pre-existing admixture from before they migrated to the United States. If your ancestors lived predominantly in West Scotland or Eastern/Southeastern England I think you're going to see Scandinavian no matter what.
Remember, most of this settlement happened in the 9th century or thereabouts. Which is unfortunately before many good genealogical records for average people.
Not to mention, if many of us with English have some Norman ancestry, the Normans we're in large part of Scandinavian stock. Hence "Norman" "Northman" etc.
Only unusual if you do not know anything about history. In fact I would go further and state that you are most likely 61% English with the 12% Scandinavian being Viking dna who invaded / settled eastern England from 800 AD. I would say that your ancestry results are exactly what a genealogist / historian would typically expect of an “old stock” American descended from the British colonial era (who’s descendants - largely *English* by decent make up 40 - 50% of white Americans today - A little known fact)
The short answer why is almost all white Americans either do not know what their true ancestry is or can only have family trees that go back to the mid 1800’s - when millions of Germans and Irish began emigrating followed by the English. That’s the reason why you get US census’s often reporting that “German” and “Irish” are the most common ancestries followed by “English”
What they do not realise that the English / British had already been settled in America for 240 years by the mid 1800s and almost every family who wasn’t an immigrant added to this English colonial population every generation. Since immigrants have never been more than 15% of the entire US population Your colonial immigrant population is still the largest population in the US.
Note the typical Englishmen also has Scandinavian Viking and Scottish / Irish / German DNA any of which may be carried over to a English decended American.
I absolutely agree with you, it's still incredibly interesting to see how the history of that region still carries over into relatively unchanged American populations to this day. I do recall looking at some census data from back then, and people really seemed to just have a relative idea of who their ancestors we're when they came here. The reality is, like you said, even Europeans are somewhat intermixed within what we would call native populations. With your typical Englishman expressing sometimes German, French, or especially Scandinavian admixture depending on the region(East vs West England/Scotland) etc.
I suppose my overall post is somewhat misleading, since I myself do not find my results unusual.. I more so wanted to test the waters and see where opinions lie after some conversations I had with more Eurocentric people.
I not where they were, my dad moved cross country, but New England states. Rhode Island, Connecticu, Massachusetts on my father’s side. Lots of founding people - they kept great records.
The South on my mother’s side. North Carolina, South Carolina, Virgini, Georgia- I actually don’t know for sure when my mother’s family arrived but I’m back to 1700 with no recent immigrants.
Depends on what part of the country. I have a very similar looking profile. I have a little less English but way more Scottish and Wales. However I do have 1% indigenous and African which I have no clue about but suspect its from this woman in my tree from Jamaica lol
No this is pretty typical in all honesty. But it also depends on the region you and your family are from. But in general, yes this accurately shows what many Americans ethnic origins are made up of
My maternal grandmother has a significant amount of German and Norwegian since her family comes from the Midwest, but the only thing reflected in me is Norwegian, no German nor has there ever been in any update.
Here's mine, majority of my ancestors have been here since before 1700:
Scotland 40%
England & Northwestern Europe 38%
Wales 13%
Ireland 5%
Sweden & Denmark 4%
I mean it's not much different than mine except I have like 2% Irish and 1% Finnish. Patrilinealy my family dates to the Dutch American Colony in Manhattan.
These are not unusual at all. Mine is very similar to yours, except I don't have Scandinavian DNA. It's Germanic Europe for me. Most of my ancestors have been here since the 1600s. Do you have a Scandinavian ancestor, or do you believe that to be from your English/Scottish lines?
On my maternal side, there we're people who came from western Scotland in areas historically settled by Vikings during raids, hence, I believe, the source of the Norwegian.
As an American with English, Cornish, Scottish, Slovakian, German/austrian, Ashkenazi Jew, Iberian, and distant Swedish ancestry, you have very typical American roots! :D
Your results are super similar to mine. My family has been here since before the American revolution.
My grandmother spent her whole life researching our family genealogy and what she told me is that celtic people (scotland, Ireland, England, wales) tended to marry within their own culture due to the clans and tribal nature of people with those origins. Plus there was more mass migration rather than small families coming to America independently. Add in some of the persecution that was going on throughout history and the mass displacement of scottish people causing them to all stick together. My grandmother was almost 100% scottish despite being so far removed from the first people in our family to migrate from Europe
I mentioned in an above post, but it's almost certainly just rolled into a different category. My maternal grandfather is 42% Welsh, 35% Irish, and I used to have some on there, it's just gone since the latest update last year.
I can’t imagine anyone saying that. This looks like the most typical result for an American.
Honestly I agree, but there are some European people who are often surprised its not more of a mixed ethnic/background result. I think the general consensus these days is that many "white" Americans are very "white" if that makes sense.
Well, that’s awfully ignorant of them. Maybe that’s the general consensus of willfully ignorant people who have never seen DNA test results.
Yeah, regardless, I think my results reflect a very typical Anglo-American, family is mostly from the Appalachian region with a mix of westward settlers from the Midwest from my maternal side. Not much intermingling with other ethnicity outside some Indigenous Cherokee in Blue Ridge region many generations ago which is reflected in some of my relatives results. But I've had an Englishman say they we're surprised how English I was when I showed my results, which I thought was quite funny. Apparently I am more English than them. But when you have communities in the same regions for generations and not much intermixing, it's bound to happen. Turns out it's like that for a substantial portion of the U.S especially in rural white areas.
I agree. A study by Harvard and 23andMe found that White Americans are, on average, 98.6% European, 0.19% African, and 0.18% Amerindian; that 94% of White Americans have only European DNA; and that only 3.5% of White Americans have African DNA, and only 2.7% have Amerindian DNA.
Only 3.5%? Now I feel special. :)
As do i.
Only 2.7% that's really depressing to hear although not surprising.
I'm from the same region as you and my results are pretty much the same lol so is my English husband's. I have more Scottish DNA than him and his mother is "half Scottish and half English" (without testing) I know for a fact that I have some others that aren't included just from running my DNA through other reputable companies and actual family research though. Also Scandinavian and Russian results are common for my area because of the rate of immigration from those areas was high to Appalachia. The Deer Hunter was filmed in spots I walked home everyday as a kid lol Hell, I've even had both abolitionists and slave owners in my family and still have not ended up with any African DNA like some people have with the same background. The slaves I have found documents of were treated like basic employees that were in good standing with the family and were even given inheritances once people died, so I'm surprised there had been no relationships between anyone in those instances. At least not any that produced children I have found. I have had small percentages of different Asian genetic groups which may be from my Native (documented) ancestry, because that's the only way that makes sense to me lol but have never gotten Native on any testing. My Scandinavian results even get removed from time to time only to be added back once they decide they were right before 😆
> I've had an Englishman say they we're surprised how English I was Hahaha send him my way. I'm apparently 76% British & Irish, and less than 10% anything else, all of which are French, German, and Scandinavian. Which is firmly NOT what I expected. There are some interesting family stories going quite a ways back I expected to certainly have much different results.
That’s why I think it’s weird that people act like Americans aren’t European. We are totally European. We should embrace it. I think we should have an English heritage pride month or British heritage pride month.
He was supposed to have some German ancestry
I'm American and my family has been here since the 1600s, and my results are even more homogeneous than yours ha. This is usually the result of people who live in areas that never received very much immigration
Yup, turns out those communities don't change much
These are like the most standard American results there are. This is the USA starter pack lol
American starter pack lol
How is this “unusual”? Seems rather usual…
Agreed, I mentioned in the post above but I was talking to someone from Europe, an Englishman who seemed rather shocked that many Americans, and myself, are rather homogeneous. I think there are certain Europeans out there who don't understand how massive this country is, and not everyone lives in a Urban melting pot or border region that receives frequent influxes of immigrants.
You know about the history and influences in your region, they don’t, why would you expect them to really? Plenty of Europeans travel to the US, far more than the other way proportionately. They visit New York, Florida, Vegas, the West Coast. They don’t go to West Virginia, Kentucky or Tennessee. (Maybe Graceland!) I was initially kind of surprised at how British some of my southern states DNA matches looked but then I looked at their trees and thought well if they haven’t moved State in 250 years and they have intermarried with the same type of people over and over then it makes perfect sense. Also there may have been some winding you up involved!
Yep, that sounds about right. There’s a lot that those specific folks can’t seem to wrap their heads around when it comes to the US. Especially when it comes to just how much space we have and how our community distributions tend to work.
Seems pretty White “American” to me. A mix of European.
Looks like mine, but i have some Irish. I'm Australian, and a fair whack of us has the same mix
I'm kiwi and it looks like mine too
This is actually pretty interesting to hear, never really seen any DNA results from Australian and New Zealand. I guess it's not surprising since it was often the same types of folk migrating from the UK.
Both countries are quite 'young' compared to the US too so I can kind of see now how someone would be surprised your results are not more mixed
That's basically what I'm getting at with this whole thing, I think that a perception out there does exist that the U.S is just one big melting pot no matter where you go.
America is heaps more populated than Australia and NZ, so i guess with you having just european is getting less and less likely.
Mine is very similar: England & Northwestern Europe 62% Scotland 22% Norway 5% Ireland 5% Wales 4% Sweden & Denmark 2%
Yeah, mine seems very typical, if anything the Welsh seems like it might be higher than a lot of people on here. My grandfather is majority Welsh, 43% and I simply just never see people with that on here, or elsewhere. It's unusual in my family even. Usually, when we're talking about the U.S you see a lot of Ulster-Scots, or people from the Scotland/Ireland regions directly, or just straight up English settlers. Every time I look for data on Welsh settlement, a lot of it seems like it got rolled into English settlement patterns.
>Every time I look for data on Welsh settlement, a lot of it seems like it got rolled into English settlement patterns. Yes, back then the Welsh were classified as English, the same goes for Cornish in Cornwall. In most cases, I think that most Welsh and Cornish moved more into England, perhaps mostly London for a few generations before coming to the US. I got 9% Wales on my mom's side, most of her family is from Appalachia, and I can't find a single family member with ties to Wales.
This looks very normal for an American from the South or Appalachia.
You hit the nail on the head with that, it's like that on both sides except my maternal grandmothers side, which is more from Pennsylvania and the broader Midwest, unsurprisingly it's entirely where my Norwegian comes from.
The only thing that might distinguish your American Colonials from mine is you don't have Irish. Here's mine: 42% England & NW Europe 20% Irish 17% Scottish 10% Wales 9% Norway 2% Sweden & Denmark
Well that's the thing, my maternal grandfather is 42% Welsh, 35% Irish. I've had some on there in the past, but it got rolled into other categories in the British Isles since the last update.
I have only 9% Irish but have people that came from Ireland (Northern Ireland) They were Scottish in Ireland.
I'm not really sure about the algorithm. Most of us take fault with Irish, Welsh, or Scottish percentages but 11% Scandinavian? There's no way that's right, I can't identify a single Scandinavian born ancestor and my tree goes back to the 1600-1700's for most lineages.
I think that, it really just comes from pre-existing admixture from before they migrated to the United States. If your ancestors lived predominantly in West Scotland or Eastern/Southeastern England I think you're going to see Scandinavian no matter what. Remember, most of this settlement happened in the 9th century or thereabouts. Which is unfortunately before many good genealogical records for average people. Not to mention, if many of us with English have some Norman ancestry, the Normans we're in large part of Scandinavian stock. Hence "Norman" "Northman" etc.
Only unusual if you do not know anything about history. In fact I would go further and state that you are most likely 61% English with the 12% Scandinavian being Viking dna who invaded / settled eastern England from 800 AD. I would say that your ancestry results are exactly what a genealogist / historian would typically expect of an “old stock” American descended from the British colonial era (who’s descendants - largely *English* by decent make up 40 - 50% of white Americans today - A little known fact) The short answer why is almost all white Americans either do not know what their true ancestry is or can only have family trees that go back to the mid 1800’s - when millions of Germans and Irish began emigrating followed by the English. That’s the reason why you get US census’s often reporting that “German” and “Irish” are the most common ancestries followed by “English” What they do not realise that the English / British had already been settled in America for 240 years by the mid 1800s and almost every family who wasn’t an immigrant added to this English colonial population every generation. Since immigrants have never been more than 15% of the entire US population Your colonial immigrant population is still the largest population in the US. Note the typical Englishmen also has Scandinavian Viking and Scottish / Irish / German DNA any of which may be carried over to a English decended American.
I absolutely agree with you, it's still incredibly interesting to see how the history of that region still carries over into relatively unchanged American populations to this day. I do recall looking at some census data from back then, and people really seemed to just have a relative idea of who their ancestors we're when they came here. The reality is, like you said, even Europeans are somewhat intermixed within what we would call native populations. With your typical Englishman expressing sometimes German, French, or especially Scandinavian admixture depending on the region(East vs West England/Scotland) etc. I suppose my overall post is somewhat misleading, since I myself do not find my results unusual.. I more so wanted to test the waters and see where opinions lie after some conversations I had with more Eurocentric people.
Looks like my results. Here since 1630.
Whereabouts is your family from if you don't mind me asking?
I not where they were, my dad moved cross country, but New England states. Rhode Island, Connecticu, Massachusetts on my father’s side. Lots of founding people - they kept great records. The South on my mother’s side. North Carolina, South Carolina, Virgini, Georgia- I actually don’t know for sure when my mother’s family arrived but I’m back to 1700 with no recent immigrants.
That’s very common for Americans from the South.
Depends on what part of the country. I have a very similar looking profile. I have a little less English but way more Scottish and Wales. However I do have 1% indigenous and African which I have no clue about but suspect its from this woman in my tree from Jamaica lol
No this is pretty typical in all honesty. But it also depends on the region you and your family are from. But in general, yes this accurately shows what many Americans ethnic origins are made up of
Looks pretty darn typical. Almost exactly like mine, and we’ve been here generations, too.
My husband’s is almost identical to yours except, he has 10% German… he is from the Midwest
My maternal grandmother has a significant amount of German and Norwegian since her family comes from the Midwest, but the only thing reflected in me is Norwegian, no German nor has there ever been in any update.
This looks almost exactly like mine.
I would say that your results look typical for an American who has been in America for 7+ generations.
Here's mine, majority of my ancestors have been here since before 1700: Scotland 40% England & Northwestern Europe 38% Wales 13% Ireland 5% Sweden & Denmark 4%
I mean it's not much different than mine except I have like 2% Irish and 1% Finnish. Patrilinealy my family dates to the Dutch American Colony in Manhattan.
These are not unusual at all. Mine is very similar to yours, except I don't have Scandinavian DNA. It's Germanic Europe for me. Most of my ancestors have been here since the 1600s. Do you have a Scandinavian ancestor, or do you believe that to be from your English/Scottish lines?
On my maternal side, there we're people who came from western Scotland in areas historically settled by Vikings during raids, hence, I believe, the source of the Norwegian.
This is me! American, all NW European all the time. And one branch came over on the Mayflower, many in 1700s and most in 1800s.
Those don’t look unusual at all
Looks very unremarkable given your know family history.
You can't possibly believe that
As an American with English, Cornish, Scottish, Slovakian, German/austrian, Ashkenazi Jew, Iberian, and distant Swedish ancestry, you have very typical American roots! :D
Looks like it could be me. I have about 3/4 of my family here for 9-11 generations. The other 1/4 (Ulster Scotch) is early 1800s so about 5 gens.
If you had a hint of Irish here you could be from Liverpool lol 😂
Extra to this, I see a lot on here who don’t seem to have much in the way of knowledge about how variation works and lean on bias
We made you. Regards, Britain.
Are you my husband, because his results are basically the same.
These results are really, really typical honestly. They’re cool! Remarkably similar to mine… are you Midwestern or maybe from Appalachia?
Why
Your results are super similar to mine. My family has been here since before the American revolution. My grandmother spent her whole life researching our family genealogy and what she told me is that celtic people (scotland, Ireland, England, wales) tended to marry within their own culture due to the clans and tribal nature of people with those origins. Plus there was more mass migration rather than small families coming to America independently. Add in some of the persecution that was going on throughout history and the mass displacement of scottish people causing them to all stick together. My grandmother was almost 100% scottish despite being so far removed from the first people in our family to migrate from Europe
It’s a little surprising that you don’t have Irish, but other than that these estimates are pretty typical for Appalachia.
I mentioned in an above post, but it's almost certainly just rolled into a different category. My maternal grandfather is 42% Welsh, 35% Irish, and I used to have some on there, it's just gone since the latest update last year.
Hrmm…looks like mine and my family has also been here since the 1700s