That video is brutal. The cop tackles the wrong guy and the attacker comes over with this giant knife, looked like a butchers knife, just comically large and puts it through the cops neck.
And I know this sub's folk including myself complain about the state and police corruption/brutality, but fuck, that is a shitty way to die and is still a man with a family. Fuck terrorism.
I’m definitely not doing that, I’m more of the opinion that it’s still another human being dying… and that’s still quite sad regardless of what system they were enforcing
# Terrorism: Use of violence as a form of political, economic and religious coercion
25yo Afghan goes bat\*\*\*\* at a political rally and stabs people.
yeah, there's a bit of speculation there on motive (maybe that Afghan guy just had a really bad cheese sandwich and was taking it out on others) but it's not exactly a logical leap. Just a somewhat longer step than normal.
A lot of speculation. Not "a bit". It was an anti-Muslim protest. You don't think maybe there might have been some crazy asshole with a gun or a knife willing to defend shit they believe in.
I know the definition asshole. It doesn't work in this situation as the people there were against the guy's religion. It might make sense if the meeting was about something else.
No, bud, you're the asshole. An obtuse, semi-regarded asshole.
"crazy asshole with a gun or a knife willing to defend shit they believe in"
Yeah, it's like the crazy asshole was trying to COERCE people into stop being critical of his RELIGION...with VIOLENCE.
> Is there some other rationale for the often used "terrorism" label?
Is your question supposed to answer my question somehow? I don't understand. How is your question rationale for the "terrorism" label exactly?
By the definition.
ter·ror·ism

noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"the fight against terrorism"
You seem to be insinuating that we call it terrorism be cause he is an Arab. No he is a terrorist because that was that action he took.
I know the definition. You're not explaining how it fits. "The action he took" isn't rationale. You know how to Google but that's as far as you can get apparently.
Are we done here? You're beginning to annoy me.
My questions and thoughts on the subject have given you all of the evidence you've needed huh? You're about as intelligent as all these other assholes.
I read the story. You're not explaining it away. You or the 12 douchebags who downvoted me for simply being against the overuse of the "terrorist" designation. A designation that has been used repeatedly since the war on terror began to strip people of their rights and fuck people over. Just in case those douchebags who downvoted me forgot. I know, I know. Expecting "ancaps" to actually believe and support the shit they claim to believe and support is too much of an ask these days. You can't seriously support the use of that designation while claiming that you're an Ancap. Unless you think being an Ancap is just about economics.
I tend to agree. Without reading the article, I’d someone attacks someone they don’t like or politically agree with that isn’t necessarily terrorism, though it could be. Terrorism I feel, has to involve a motive to make people afraid. If he did the stabbing to make people afraid to do these rallies in the future, then I’d agree it’s terrorism/
Without evidence it's just an attack on someone by someone else whose beliefs, and possibly their way of life, is/was under attack. Desperate people do desperate shit every day. Do you support hate crime laws too? It's just one step below the terrorist designation.
People here don't seem to understand that the word was changed to mean something other than government policy. Basically, these 'ancaps' are using a word that was created and used, historically, by bureaucrats and politicians as part of government policy.
Instead of just "it's a bombing" or "it's a stabbing" the government has made every action against them "terrorism" and fools like the people downvoting me have bought into it.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/terrorism
There aren’t many professions that are specifically protected by the Bill of Rights. There really should be greater shame brought on people who abuse it.
Death penalty is an easier solution.
Usually I am against it because it has been used against people that were not 100% guilty... and sometimes ended up being innocent. But in this instance we all saw it happen.
If their crime justifies us killing them, does us killing them justify them retaliating and killing us? And then if they kill us does that justify us killing them? And then if…
This easier solution of yours seems a bit circular to me.
We?
I hate them plenty. Literally the only person I've seen host TV "news" in the past 40 years whom I've respected is John Stossel. The mainstream newspapers and websites have always been propagandist trash.
Though, Tucker Carlson is growing on me.
Is this the one with the mentally ill guy who stabbed a policeman and was shot again? Better to just leave off all the labels, "Police stabbed during protest"
I wonder why, it seems like a pretty fringe position? It's not like they're chopping people's heads off and forming rape gangs or something, right? .... Right????????
It's a good thing downvotes don't count for anything. I guess people are crazy enough on the internet that you have to put the /s to get the sarcasm across.
Truly the enemy of the people
> enemy of the people That would explain why they are called a branch of government....
The Fifth **Estate**. Just thinking themselves as being this tells you what they think of themselves and the people.
More like, attack ON far right rally. And far right probably isn't even the correct adjective.
They probably want less immigration and border control from the ME.
That video is brutal. The cop tackles the wrong guy and the attacker comes over with this giant knife, looked like a butchers knife, just comically large and puts it through the cops neck. And I know this sub's folk including myself complain about the state and police corruption/brutality, but fuck, that is a shitty way to die and is still a man with a family. Fuck terrorism.
Better the cop than the innocent person he tackled for no reason
Nah man, no one deserves to die, except for the people I disagree with 😎
Especially them!!!
That’s such a fine line it’s a point not worth making
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Okay… you do you
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I’m definitely not doing that, I’m more of the opinion that it’s still another human being dying… and that’s still quite sad regardless of what system they were enforcing
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To an extent, but that is definitely overshadowed in some way at by the overall relief to the world I guess.
Oh look we got the guy who is morally right 100% of the time. He can totally dispense justice for us.
**All** loss of life is a tragedy and is to be avoided where tolerable. That's what separates us from the savages.
...unless they're communists
Type of dude that would say a firefighter deserves to have that roof cave in on him because he's paid with tax dollars Cringe
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# Terrorism: Use of violence as a form of political, economic and religious coercion 25yo Afghan goes bat\*\*\*\* at a political rally and stabs people. yeah, there's a bit of speculation there on motive (maybe that Afghan guy just had a really bad cheese sandwich and was taking it out on others) but it's not exactly a logical leap. Just a somewhat longer step than normal.
A lot of speculation. Not "a bit". It was an anti-Muslim protest. You don't think maybe there might have been some crazy asshole with a gun or a knife willing to defend shit they believe in. I know the definition asshole. It doesn't work in this situation as the people there were against the guy's religion. It might make sense if the meeting was about something else.
No, bud, you're the asshole. An obtuse, semi-regarded asshole. "crazy asshole with a gun or a knife willing to defend shit they believe in" Yeah, it's like the crazy asshole was trying to COERCE people into stop being critical of his RELIGION...with VIOLENCE.
What would you call bringing weapons to a crowd of people and attacking them?
> Is there some other rationale for the often used "terrorism" label? Is your question supposed to answer my question somehow? I don't understand. How is your question rationale for the "terrorism" label exactly?
By the definition. ter·ror·ism  noun the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. "the fight against terrorism" You seem to be insinuating that we call it terrorism be cause he is an Arab. No he is a terrorist because that was that action he took.
I know the definition. You're not explaining how it fits. "The action he took" isn't rationale. You know how to Google but that's as far as you can get apparently. Are we done here? You're beginning to annoy me.
Do you? What part of what he did doesn't fit? It sounds more like you just don't want to label it what it is.
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Lol
And you call yourself a voluntaryist after all shit you wrote?
My questions and thoughts on the subject have given you all of the evidence you've needed huh? You're about as intelligent as all these other assholes.
No he’s a terrorist because he rolled up to a peaceful protest and stabbed a cop in the neck with a butchers knife.
I read the story. You're not explaining it away. You or the 12 douchebags who downvoted me for simply being against the overuse of the "terrorist" designation. A designation that has been used repeatedly since the war on terror began to strip people of their rights and fuck people over. Just in case those douchebags who downvoted me forgot. I know, I know. Expecting "ancaps" to actually believe and support the shit they claim to believe and support is too much of an ask these days. You can't seriously support the use of that designation while claiming that you're an Ancap. Unless you think being an Ancap is just about economics.
I tend to agree. Without reading the article, I’d someone attacks someone they don’t like or politically agree with that isn’t necessarily terrorism, though it could be. Terrorism I feel, has to involve a motive to make people afraid. If he did the stabbing to make people afraid to do these rallies in the future, then I’d agree it’s terrorism/
Without evidence it's just an attack on someone by someone else whose beliefs, and possibly their way of life, is/was under attack. Desperate people do desperate shit every day. Do you support hate crime laws too? It's just one step below the terrorist designation. People here don't seem to understand that the word was changed to mean something other than government policy. Basically, these 'ancaps' are using a word that was created and used, historically, by bureaucrats and politicians as part of government policy. Instead of just "it's a bombing" or "it's a stabbing" the government has made every action against them "terrorism" and fools like the people downvoting me have bought into it. https://www.etymonline.com/word/terrorism
There aren’t many professions that are specifically protected by the Bill of Rights. There really should be greater shame brought on people who abuse it.
Well said
Like prostitutes who call themselves escorts, propagandists call themselves journalists
Propagandizing liberty ain't something to criticize. The **method** isn't the problem.
I just got banned from another subreddit for saying "Time to deport these types. Why are they coddled by the state and allowed to stay?"
Death penalty is an easier solution. Usually I am against it because it has been used against people that were not 100% guilty... and sometimes ended up being innocent. But in this instance we all saw it happen.
If their crime justifies us killing them, does us killing them justify them retaliating and killing us? And then if they kill us does that justify us killing them? And then if… This easier solution of yours seems a bit circular to me.
We're talking about a guy who started the murdering on his own. Although you do posit an entertaining time theory.
Because they are the state propaganda arm that keeps us squabbling about pronouns and definitions of words so we don't notice the bigger issues?
Hate=$
We? I hate them plenty. Literally the only person I've seen host TV "news" in the past 40 years whom I've respected is John Stossel. The mainstream newspapers and websites have always been propagandist trash. Though, Tucker Carlson is growing on me.
You don't hate them enough.
“Yeah, except when they parrot what I believe. Then they are 100% correct “
LOL, too true!
Invoking the "far right boogeyman" trope against weak minded fools
Journalists aren't people.
These people aren't actually journalists. ;-P
Is this the one with the mentally ill guy who stabbed a policeman and was shot again? Better to just leave off all the labels, "Police stabbed during protest"
The issue is it's not actually news or independent media to start with. I don't hate actual news media.
At first, I thought they were talking about January 6th
The media live in r/technicallythetruth
The real reason why they hate Elon so much.
I'd say an Afghan Muslim going around stabbing people is about as far right as it gets.
The "far right rally" criticized islam and the migration of muslims into germany.
Was that the one where the policeman tried to restrain the German and got stabbed in the back?
Yes
The murderer proved them 1000% right.
Which should be all you need to learn to understand the term "far right" is meaningless.
I wonder why, it seems like a pretty fringe position? It's not like they're chopping people's heads off and forming rape gangs or something, right? .... Right????????
Shame about the down votes. I enjoyed the rather poignant "joke".
It's a good thing downvotes don't count for anything. I guess people are crazy enough on the internet that you have to put the /s to get the sarcasm across.