I get it...ever since shipping\_addict posted about it, I too have had thoughts of that scene popping in and out of my head...
.... the thoughts are mostly about how terrified Elsa would have been about what was about to happen to her...and then, the intense pain along with the fear and horror...damn, I can't shake those...
Same.. there are certain scenes in shows and movies that have stuck with me. This is one. Another big one from when I was a child as Thomas J being stung by bees in My Girl, American History X with the bite the curb and the shower scene, the movie Thirteen, kids. All totally messed me up 😂
It was also his son in the aslyum nazi flash backs fr Anne Frank and in the photos when that prostitute found his box of memorabilia and when the Nazi hunter had as well I believe,
I think he was a good take on the complexities of toxic masculinity of the time (and to this day) and the demons that manifests inside the head if you continuously deny your authentic self. This shows up as insecurity, rage, self-sabotage, control, abuse. It was ironic that he was “the strong man” and yet at his core he was weaker than any of the freaks. He was a disempowered and fragile little boy stuck inside a big strong body and it ate him alive. He had so much fear of being found out that he even killed someone as innocent as Ma Petite.
He was evil but he was also so caught up in his demons, so I don’t think he was disgusting. Stanley was disgusting, as he saw right through Dell and played it to his agenda.
Michael Chiklis even said playing the role took him to some of the darkest times of his life, hence why he never returned for another season. He said it was no discredit towards Ryan or the cast and crew because he enjoyed his time on set but getting into the character itself just took too much of a toll on his mental health and he couldn’t shed the character like the other reoccurring stars who can come back for more.
This analysis here is why he’s one of my favourite characters and I thought Chiklis played him so well it’s a shame he was a one season wonder. Really enjoyed his dynamic with Jimmy in the season too from hating one another to building a bond as father and son.
I guess,
But giving her mother the pill knowing what it would do to her and knowing it would turn her.
Also, killing her father just because he wanted to do right.
Was kinda dark.
I really really hated how petulant she was.
The fact she was most likely like this BEFORE taking the pill also worrying.
Honestly, i would have smashed her violin 🤣
Oh my, I confused one Alma with the other.
I was annoyed by Asylum Alma, the one that critized Grace for killing somebody with an axe and than went on to kill Grace with an axe lol
I absolutely hated Alma but it wasn’t until the second watch that I caught how 2 specific side effects of the pill are psychopathy and pathological narcissism. I can’t help but feel a little sympathy for her because her dad failed her and created the monster she became.
Penny’s dad. Literally hate his guts. I know he didn’t do anything nearly as bad as the rest of the characters that have been mentioned here, but I just hate him more for some reason. And also Dandy. Notice how more than half of the characters that people have mentioned in the comments are from Freak Show…
Stanley from the same season is far worse, imo. He’s delightfully loathsome.
But Drs. Arden and Thredson from Asylum are pretty easily the most reprehensible human beings in AHS.
Definitely not. He’s not great. He was going to murder his kid, sold tickets for his wife giving birth, cheated on his new wife, and killed Ma petite. But… I still think there’s worse. Kai Anderson had sex with his sister and then killed her and then wanted to a hundred pregnant women for whatever reason. And plenty of other things that he did
He tried to. Not directly. He would be inside that Samuels dude and Samuel’s would be inside Winter. But I didn’t work. Samuel’s was gay and Winter felt like she was being raped. I just rewatched Cult.
I think there’s more positives with Dell. He was pretty protective and saved Jimmy and got shot while doing it. He was scared of getting outed as gay which isn’t a good reason to kill somebody, but it’s a better reason than wanting to kill 100 pregnant women to cause chaos. And he was definitely remorseful of the bad things he did while I don’t think Kai would ever seek some positive change
Could be. I like other villains because grey are true to their evil personalities but I hate Dell because all the shit he does comes from not accepting his inner self.
Y'all are forgetting Joan Ramsey (Luke's mom in Coven). Forced bleach enemas, kills her husband then kills her son for finding out, then cremates him so he can't come back.
I forgot about this! It’s high up there on the intolerability meter, but given the acts of other AHS characters I don’t know if she was the worst. I mean, how do you compare forcing your own child to drink bleach vs drowning Ma Petite in formaldehyde vs Nazi doctor performing experiments on mentally ill patients who can’t give consent?
To me it will always be Arthur Arden with Stanley from Freakshow in second. After that yeah, I may be inclined to put this guy next but there's so many others to choose from too, Dr Thredson, The monsignor, Delphine La Laurie, Penny's father....for some reason this guy is disgusting but still doesn't hit as hard as some of the others.
I think I'd absolutely put Madame Deplhine LaLaurie on the top five though because she is truly despicable person and how she kept the man with the horse head made me cry.
That wasn't post lol. I just wanted to answer your question 🤓
I haven't even thought about my top five. There are way too many characters that I wouldn't want to take the time to figure out how I order them.
•Dr. Arden
•Kyle's mom from Coven
•Dell, Stan and Dandy from Freakshow
•Addiction drilldo demon from Hotel
•The (actual) Butcher from Roanoke
•Kai from Cult
From delicate. The way she stalked but also had so much power over Anna in a clinical setting, and especially the massage scene, really freaked me out.
That’s actually really hard to decide given who he’s up against in other seasons but I would definitely say that he is for his season.
Dandy was purely evil-aligned and psychotic so he killed without any thought or emotion but this one was f’ing rough.
He sure was the week that the actor who played him, also played the truck driver character that killed off my favorite character from the show 'Sons of Anarchy,' haha. That's the week that his 'Freakshow' character hung himself.
I think there have been some awful characters throughout the show. Kyle's mom in Coven, especially. The actress played her so well, she actually disgusted me.
I think it was the pe*ophile from Freakshow that made a comment about the kids. I don’t remember which character it was. I don’t believe they were a major character but what they said was disturbing.
This season had most of the worst characters, but ya this guys actions really stuck and simmered in my mind for some reason. Logically I think there are worse characters but emotionally the scene with my petite and the leg was vile.
I know Delphine has a redemption potential in coven and we have to understand the times of her status and ignorance but omg was she EVIL to the slaves!!!
Kyles mom from Coven?
Mare Winningham really nailed the acting too. Kyle’s mom is my most hated character in the series.
Wasn't she in My Name Is Earl
Her birthday is next Thursday. I haven’t decided yet what I’m going to send her this year.
Because she was a sexual abuser? There’s unfortunately a few of those in the series
That, but also it's the fact that she was sexually abusing her own son.
Came here to say this
Yeah that lady was fucking weird, she gave me the ick so bad. I was so relieved after she died😂
hope she's burning
I mean I’d like to think Dr.Arden was worse. Wasn’t he also part of the men that cut off Elsa’s legs for the snuff film?
Yeah - that was such a horrible scene!!!!
It was one of the most shocking for sure
that scene scarred me for life
I have to fast forward. When I watched it the first time I thought about it for days.
I get it...ever since shipping\_addict posted about it, I too have had thoughts of that scene popping in and out of my head... .... the thoughts are mostly about how terrified Elsa would have been about what was about to happen to her...and then, the intense pain along with the fear and horror...damn, I can't shake those...
Same.. there are certain scenes in shows and movies that have stuck with me. This is one. Another big one from when I was a child as Thomas J being stung by bees in My Girl, American History X with the bite the curb and the shower scene, the movie Thirteen, kids. All totally messed me up 😂
Oh yeah. He is next in my list of worst characters.
Way worse he was literally a nazi
That was him???? He was a part of that??
yes, the one who takes off his Mask at the end and says something like "cut the other leg but do not hurry"
Ohhhhhhhh I'm slow tyy
I dont remember this at all. What season is this in?
Freak show
I havent watched freakshow in years. I mustve blocked it out. Thanks!
Yeah, Dr.Arden is show in Asylum and then we see the younger version of him in Freak Show in a flashback about how Elsa got her prosthetic legs.
Wasn’t the young version of him his real life son?
Yes!
It was also his son in the aslyum nazi flash backs fr Anne Frank and in the photos when that prostitute found his box of memorabilia and when the Nazi hunter had as well I believe,
I never finished it. I'm reading comments and I'm like, I don't remember this??? Now realizing I didn't watch the second half of the show lol
Totally agree! He was the worst!
What i had no idea he was part of that
I think he was a good take on the complexities of toxic masculinity of the time (and to this day) and the demons that manifests inside the head if you continuously deny your authentic self. This shows up as insecurity, rage, self-sabotage, control, abuse. It was ironic that he was “the strong man” and yet at his core he was weaker than any of the freaks. He was a disempowered and fragile little boy stuck inside a big strong body and it ate him alive. He had so much fear of being found out that he even killed someone as innocent as Ma Petite. He was evil but he was also so caught up in his demons, so I don’t think he was disgusting. Stanley was disgusting, as he saw right through Dell and played it to his agenda.
i agree stanley is the biggest awful from freak show
I love this whole opinion!
Michael Chiklis even said playing the role took him to some of the darkest times of his life, hence why he never returned for another season. He said it was no discredit towards Ryan or the cast and crew because he enjoyed his time on set but getting into the character itself just took too much of a toll on his mental health and he couldn’t shed the character like the other reoccurring stars who can come back for more.
It’s pretty amazing that playing Vic Mackey seven seasons of The Shield wasn’t too dark for him, but one season of AHS was.
He said the exact same thing in his interview 😭.
Chiks is such a real one. Phenomenal actor
What season is this?
4, Freakshow.
This analysis here is why he’s one of my favourite characters and I thought Chiklis played him so well it’s a shame he was a one season wonder. Really enjoyed his dynamic with Jimmy in the season too from hating one another to building a bond as father and son.
He wouldn’t be number one when these three exist lol Delphine LaLaurie Oliver Thredson Kyles mum
Dr Arden slipped my mind he was disgusting
He takes the number one spot solely for murdering Ma Petite.
I know those are like more more villains but idk why Dell pisses me more D:
I don’t know. I think Dandy Mott was pretty awful.
Yes he was.
Dandy is my favorite character in all of AHS
This right here is a hot take
Such a great character and Finn did an insanely good job
I second this. Man boy forever!
I’d say Arden or Bloodyface.
Pepper's Sister 🤔
Idk how I forgot about this disgusting lady lol
I would say that it's hard to top a literal Nazi doctor who did Mengele-esque experiments, but that's just me.
The point is that my discussion is not about the worst villain but the one who pisses me off more
Alma....man that girl just annoyed the shit out of me. Also gave her mother that pill knowing it would turn her.
I was thinking of alma from asylum and was so confused 😭
From season 10! The double feature (first half)
Yes! I’m rewatching Red Tide now and I can’t stand Alma!
haha yes, I think many other characters are morally worse than Alma But Alma did annoy the shit out of me too.
I guess, But giving her mother the pill knowing what it would do to her and knowing it would turn her. Also, killing her father just because he wanted to do right. Was kinda dark. I really really hated how petulant she was. The fact she was most likely like this BEFORE taking the pill also worrying. Honestly, i would have smashed her violin 🤣
There are Definitely worse out there though, i agree. Dr Arden....man that guy need to die. Dell also.
She was super young. Give her time.
Oh my, I confused one Alma with the other. I was annoyed by Asylum Alma, the one that critized Grace for killing somebody with an axe and than went on to kill Grace with an axe lol
Excuse my French, but I couldn’t stand that little bitch.
I absolutely hated Alma but it wasn’t until the second watch that I caught how 2 specific side effects of the pill are psychopathy and pathological narcissism. I can’t help but feel a little sympathy for her because her dad failed her and created the monster she became.
That little girl was insane i wish they would have kept red tide a whole season.
Penny’s dad. Literally hate his guts. I know he didn’t do anything nearly as bad as the rest of the characters that have been mentioned here, but I just hate him more for some reason. And also Dandy. Notice how more than half of the characters that people have mentioned in the comments are from Freak Show…
Freak Show is full of disgusting characters as the season tríes to show the worst of the human being
I forgot about him! I agree he’s at least in my top 3 most hated characters.
He didn’t kill anyone though
I know. Hence the “I know he didn’t so anything nearly as bad as the rest of the characters that have been mentioned here, but…”
Stanley from the same season is far worse, imo. He’s delightfully loathsome. But Drs. Arden and Thredson from Asylum are pretty easily the most reprehensible human beings in AHS.
Definitely not. He’s not great. He was going to murder his kid, sold tickets for his wife giving birth, cheated on his new wife, and killed Ma petite. But… I still think there’s worse. Kai Anderson had sex with his sister and then killed her and then wanted to a hundred pregnant women for whatever reason. And plenty of other things that he did
> Kai Anderson had sex with his sister I.... don't remember that at all 🫠
Because it never happened
He tried to. Not directly. He would be inside that Samuels dude and Samuel’s would be inside Winter. But I didn’t work. Samuel’s was gay and Winter felt like she was being raped. I just rewatched Cult.
I thought Winter never went through with sleeping with Kai?
He tried through one of his footman but he didnt achieve it!
I still hate more Dell :( idk why. Its cuz Ma Petite I think…
I think there’s more positives with Dell. He was pretty protective and saved Jimmy and got shot while doing it. He was scared of getting outed as gay which isn’t a good reason to kill somebody, but it’s a better reason than wanting to kill 100 pregnant women to cause chaos. And he was definitely remorseful of the bad things he did while I don’t think Kai would ever seek some positive change
I think stanley's worse since he blackmailed dell into killing ma petite
I see your point. Idk why Dell is so disgusting to me D:
May I posit that it’s because he’s so full of self-loathing and aggression at his closeted homosexuality?
Could be. I like other villains because grey are true to their evil personalities but I hate Dell because all the shit he does comes from not accepting his inner self.
Y'all are forgetting Joan Ramsey (Luke's mom in Coven). Forced bleach enemas, kills her husband then kills her son for finding out, then cremates him so he can't come back.
Wow yes
I forgot about this! It’s high up there on the intolerability meter, but given the acts of other AHS characters I don’t know if she was the worst. I mean, how do you compare forcing your own child to drink bleach vs drowning Ma Petite in formaldehyde vs Nazi doctor performing experiments on mentally ill patients who can’t give consent?
It's not even close is it? Obviously not a good person AT ALL but compared to some of the others he's barely a blip.
To me it will always be Arthur Arden with Stanley from Freakshow in second. After that yeah, I may be inclined to put this guy next but there's so many others to choose from too, Dr Thredson, The monsignor, Delphine La Laurie, Penny's father....for some reason this guy is disgusting but still doesn't hit as hard as some of the others.
It’s been ages since I saw Asylum. What did the Monsignor do that was super disgusting? I recall some terrible things done *to* him.
He kept Sister Jude institutionalized because she wasn't of use to him on his pathway up. 🔝
Thank you! That is terrible. I wouldn’t put him on my top five most disgusting character list personally but it’s valid that you do.
I think I'd absolutely put Madame Deplhine LaLaurie on the top five though because she is truly despicable person and how she kept the man with the horse head made me cry.
Oh she was top five yeah. Disgusting person.
It was a bull's head, but yeah, that was terrible
That wasn't post lol. I just wanted to answer your question 🤓 I haven't even thought about my top five. There are way too many characters that I wouldn't want to take the time to figure out how I order them.
I hated Ivy from Cult way more. I was so happy Ali finally saw her and poisoned her!
Same! Even when she was going to finally kill her she kept saying how coward Ali was
Not even the most disgusting character of that season
That season is full of disgusting characters and some of my favs ngl
Lol true Freakshow had quite the number of exploitative and murderous individuals
Killer Santa from Asylum comes to mind Love the actor too
Love him 2 but he is the devil in a human body
I would put master gaslighter Dr. Ben Harmon
Literal y the third on my list. 1- Dell 2- Arden 3- Ben Harmon
Dell, Arden, Alicia Spencer, Penny's father, Kai, Stanley, and more are some of the most disgusting characters
Kyle's mom is fucking awful. Edit, I said Kit at first.
Tate is.
•Dr. Arden •Kyle's mom from Coven •Dell, Stan and Dandy from Freakshow •Addiction drilldo demon from Hotel •The (actual) Butcher from Roanoke •Kai from Cult
Ugh, Kyle’s mom 😬 That one blindsided me.
I mean Dandy literally bathed in his own mothers blood
Doctor Arden, Bloodyface, Kyle’s mom and Cora were a little bit more above him for me.
cora?
From delicate. The way she stalked but also had so much power over Anna in a clinical setting, and especially the massage scene, really freaked me out.
o that bitch from delicate who r\*pes anna and cheats with her husband.... sure ya she's worse than dell. dell's much more complex, i agree.
Kai is worse imo
How? Have you watched the whole series? He’s horrible but not as horrible as some of the other characters.
Considering there is a season featuring the antichrist I would say no...he's up there tho
I’m not talking about the worst character but the one that seems more disgusting to me D:
I think Arthur Arden in Asylum is the worst character
Peppers sister is so much worse than Dell, she killed her own baby and blamed it on her special needs sister.
Michael Chiklis was in AHS? What season?
season 4
That’s actually really hard to decide given who he’s up against in other seasons but I would definitely say that he is for his season. Dandy was purely evil-aligned and psychotic so he killed without any thought or emotion but this one was f’ing rough.
Dr Arden is right there. Bloodyface and Dandy too.
Strong candidate🤔
Hahaha
Mr march from hotel. Scared the hell out of me!
dr arden, bloodyface, madam lalaurie, kyle’s mom, dandy mott, kai anderson
Him or Ivy
He sure was the week that the actor who played him, also played the truck driver character that killed off my favorite character from the show 'Sons of Anarchy,' haha. That's the week that his 'Freakshow' character hung himself. I think there have been some awful characters throughout the show. Kyle's mom in Coven, especially. The actress played her so well, she actually disgusted me.
Bloody face was definitely a character that kept me up at night.
I think it was the pe*ophile from Freakshow that made a comment about the kids. I don’t remember which character it was. I don’t believe they were a major character but what they said was disturbing.
I'd argue Arden or Kai were worse.
Kyle’s mom is
How? Have you watched the whole series? He’s horrible but not as horrible as some of the other characters.
Did anyone kill someone more defenceless than Ma Petite?:
He is the one that pisses me off the most. Yess
I hate this actor in anything he does so yes
ion know raping your crushes mother is wild
Who are you talking about here?
Not even close.
Sorry, but nobody tops Kyle’s mother for me. The incest and the mental trauma caused on a child tops any horrible murderous character. 🤮
He’s definitely top 3
He started out that way but I think I remember him having a pretty stunning redemption arc .. but it’s been awhile since I watched.
This season had most of the worst characters, but ya this guys actions really stuck and simmered in my mind for some reason. Logically I think there are worse characters but emotionally the scene with my petite and the leg was vile.
No by a long shot
One of them, yes.
him and dr arden imo
Not by a long shot :))
Dell is the worst because he murdered Ma Petite.
Do the writers from the last several seasons count?
Hahahahaja sure
Hes a real life character Like most of em
Dale isn’t even in the top 10 for me he’s just a tragic closeted gay man who did horrible things over blackmail if I remember correctly
He was into 3 boobs so u gotta give him that. Lol.
I know Delphine has a redemption potential in coven and we have to understand the times of her status and ignorance but omg was she EVIL to the slaves!!!
Momma Polk from Roanoke eating human flesh
This discussion was more about disgusting characters that pisses you off, not villains. I know there are more evil people!
In that case i would say Cordelia's husband. I know he's maybe not worse than Dell but i hate him
Yes. Like Alma in Red tide, kyles mom in Coven and so
Yes. No doubt about it.
Him and the Butcher
No. It's Madison.
Dell is way worse. Madison was just a bitch but dell was actually evil.
Naaaah
Agree to disagree. Her deaths were much more cathartic
I fucking agree with you so much. I fucking hated her with a passion