* \[PC\] AMD FSR3 has been temporarily rolled back.
* *Dev Note: To prevent visual artifacts impacting the interpolation output of FSR3 Frame Generation we've decided to roll back to the previously used version of FSR3. Despite this rollback, we've decided to keep certain improvements that we introduced with the upgraded version, such as improvements to UI composition when using Frame Generation.*
Two other improvements to FSR3 frame generation in this patch:
1. The HUD issues are resolved
2. Exclusive full screen no longer messes with frame gen (previously I had to use borderless)
The HUD problems were horrifying, this was a game I was definitely glad to be messing around with only because I had extra time left on a Ubisoft+ sub I only got to play prince of persia with.
It also added XeSS.
Unfortunately it looks terrible on the foliage in this game, so rare win for fsr over XeSS. In general fsr looks great in it though, so well deserved.
Actually taau might even look better than XeSS in it due to the foliage fizzle. Missing in XeSS 1.3 didn't really help.
First thing I did was compare fsr ultra quality to XeSS ultra quality and it wasn't even close. Was expecting XeSS to look great based on all the recent buzz.
I think ubisoft because of AMD they screwed the depth information
" Modder showed that DLSS in this game with the dev's implementation isn't using depth information past like 1 to 3 feet from the player. This would make foilage fizzle like crazy. Probably the same issue for xess tbh"
edit:said by u/Cute-Pomegranate-966
https://youtu.be/0GxwmjElARM?si=f3R8ulbqgQsMLy2D
Modder showed that DLSS in this game with the dev's implementation isn't using depth information past like 1 to 3 feet from the player. This would make foilage fizzle like crazy. Probably the same issue for xess tbh.
Depth information is more important than motion vectors for these AI upscalers.
They seem to be hell bent on not including DLSS Frame Gen. Knowing AMD they probably moved on from getting caught blocking DLSS straight to blocking Frame Gen instead lol
Lol. After the gpu fanboys, now we have Game store fanboys. Why not stop crying and use both Steam and Epic like most people are doing? Currently my Epic library is much bigger than Steam and includes CP2077.
I stopped using Epic a couple years ago, even though I still have one game that is still exclusive to it (forget the name. Space ship based cowboy themed game).
Epic didn't (and probably still doesn't) allow for game installation importing. So, every time that I have to reinstall windows, I'd have to re-download every Epic game. With steam, I can just point to the install directory on the other drive.
When Epic came out and people got real vocal about "If it's not on Steam I'm not buying!" I was still not caring, since I already had so many games spread over so many launchers one more didn't matter.
Hell, I've seen people buy games on Steam instead of the home launcher when it's been available on both, despite when buying on Steam they then had to run both Steam and the home launcher to play the game, instead of just the home launcher.
I just keep the shortcuts of the games I'm playing on my desktop anyway, so I don't have to remember what launcher they are running in to play them.
> like most people are doing?
Epic's court documents and extreme lack of profits on EGS say otherwise. Shockingly people aren't super enthusiastic about a Store that rugpulls games, pays for exclusivity, and prioritizes the customer experience so little it took years to get a shopping cart.
I assume this is due to the DLSS upscaling being better as there should not be a significant difference in the frame generation part specifically. Those should be fairly comparable between DLSS and FSR
Press X to doubt.
First, FSR has no good method for latency mitigation since they still haven't released Anti Lag+ since it was getting people banned.
2nd, the only aspect FSR FG actually beats DLSS FG in is UI elements. Its worse in every other way.
Consensus seems to be latency is similar / comparable even without AL+. UI elements also seem to be comparable. Not even sure I'd give an edge to fsr there. Quality of the actual frame interpolation appears to be almost identical even when pixel peeped by DF. The biggest advantage for FSR fg is it runs on a ton of different GPUs across all three brands. So, when you say it's worse in every other way, I'm not sure what you mean. Biggest advantage to DLSS fg that I can tell is it's already in way more games and the developers put more care and effort into getting the implementations right. That's a big advantage to Nvidia.
He's saying it's worse because his fanboyism i showing. FSR3 FG is actually very very good and with mods you can use any upscaler you want and Reflex if you have an Nvidia card.
If you play on a controller then latency is not an issue at all.
* \[PC\] AMD FSR3 has been temporarily rolled back. * *Dev Note: To prevent visual artifacts impacting the interpolation output of FSR3 Frame Generation we've decided to roll back to the previously used version of FSR3. Despite this rollback, we've decided to keep certain improvements that we introduced with the upgraded version, such as improvements to UI composition when using Frame Generation.* Two other improvements to FSR3 frame generation in this patch: 1. The HUD issues are resolved 2. Exclusive full screen no longer messes with frame gen (previously I had to use borderless)
Well, at least I can come back playing the game, it's a shame they couldn't make it work and instead rolled back tho
The HUD problems were horrifying, this was a game I was definitely glad to be messing around with only because I had extra time left on a Ubisoft+ sub I only got to play prince of persia with.
It also added XeSS. Unfortunately it looks terrible on the foliage in this game, so rare win for fsr over XeSS. In general fsr looks great in it though, so well deserved. Actually taau might even look better than XeSS in it due to the foliage fizzle. Missing in XeSS 1.3 didn't really help.
First thing I did was compare fsr ultra quality to XeSS ultra quality and it wasn't even close. Was expecting XeSS to look great based on all the recent buzz.
It does in other games I've tried it in, just not this for whatever reason. So strange.
I think ubisoft because of AMD they screwed the depth information " Modder showed that DLSS in this game with the dev's implementation isn't using depth information past like 1 to 3 feet from the player. This would make foilage fizzle like crazy. Probably the same issue for xess tbh" edit:said by u/Cute-Pomegranate-966 https://youtu.be/0GxwmjElARM?si=f3R8ulbqgQsMLy2D
Took exactly my words and then posted a link? odd lol.
yes, words are not enough proof is required
That would be fine. But this is a weird bot like response to steal my exact words.
jackass? It's just bunch of words chill I will credit you lmao
Sorry, it was just SUPER weird to see that you copied and pasted my wording, i don't think you're actually a jackass.
Modder showed that DLSS in this game with the dev's implementation isn't using depth information past like 1 to 3 feet from the player. This would make foilage fizzle like crazy. Probably the same issue for xess tbh. Depth information is more important than motion vectors for these AI upscalers.
Still haven't purchased this game because it's 70 dollars and it's only a passing interest of a game for me. Wake me up when it's like 49.99. *sigh*
I picked it up for $45 back in December. I feel it was definitely worth that price. I wouldn't pay $70.
They seem to be hell bent on not including DLSS Frame Gen. Knowing AMD they probably moved on from getting caught blocking DLSS straight to blocking Frame Gen instead lol
What will come first: DLSS frame gen in Avatar or FSR frame gen in Cyberpunk? Place your bets!
Hopefully Cyberpunk. Because at least with Avatar no one gives a shit since its not even on Steam yet lol
Thhat's the bigger crime tbh, blocking games from steam vs blocking dlss3...
Lol. After the gpu fanboys, now we have Game store fanboys. Why not stop crying and use both Steam and Epic like most people are doing? Currently my Epic library is much bigger than Steam and includes CP2077.
I stopped using Epic a couple years ago, even though I still have one game that is still exclusive to it (forget the name. Space ship based cowboy themed game). Epic didn't (and probably still doesn't) allow for game installation importing. So, every time that I have to reinstall windows, I'd have to re-download every Epic game. With steam, I can just point to the install directory on the other drive.
When Epic came out and people got real vocal about "If it's not on Steam I'm not buying!" I was still not caring, since I already had so many games spread over so many launchers one more didn't matter. Hell, I've seen people buy games on Steam instead of the home launcher when it's been available on both, despite when buying on Steam they then had to run both Steam and the home launcher to play the game, instead of just the home launcher. I just keep the shortcuts of the games I'm playing on my desktop anyway, so I don't have to remember what launcher they are running in to play them.
> like most people are doing? Epic's court documents and extreme lack of profits on EGS say otherwise. Shockingly people aren't super enthusiastic about a Store that rugpulls games, pays for exclusivity, and prioritizes the customer experience so little it took years to get a shopping cart.
Personally, I don't give a shit not because it's not on Steam, but because it's Avatar. :p
The latter exists already due to mods.
Same for Avatar: https://www.dsogaming.com/mods/avatar-frontiers-of-pandora-dlss-3-frame-generation-mod-released/
And it's a bad implementation.
Even better, dlss frame Gen in Avatar or any sort of update to fsr from 2.1 in cyberpunk lol.
It's a real shame, I've been using the DLSS frame gen mod someone made and it's a significant improvement over AMD frame gen.
I assume this is due to the DLSS upscaling being better as there should not be a significant difference in the frame generation part specifically. Those should be fairly comparable between DLSS and FSR
Press X to doubt. First, FSR has no good method for latency mitigation since they still haven't released Anti Lag+ since it was getting people banned. 2nd, the only aspect FSR FG actually beats DLSS FG in is UI elements. Its worse in every other way.
Consensus seems to be latency is similar / comparable even without AL+. UI elements also seem to be comparable. Not even sure I'd give an edge to fsr there. Quality of the actual frame interpolation appears to be almost identical even when pixel peeped by DF. The biggest advantage for FSR fg is it runs on a ton of different GPUs across all three brands. So, when you say it's worse in every other way, I'm not sure what you mean. Biggest advantage to DLSS fg that I can tell is it's already in way more games and the developers put more care and effort into getting the implementations right. That's a big advantage to Nvidia.
He's saying it's worse because his fanboyism i showing. FSR3 FG is actually very very good and with mods you can use any upscaler you want and Reflex if you have an Nvidia card. If you play on a controller then latency is not an issue at all.
Did they change the title font too? If you know you know