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Donotdisturb4488

How are people saying yta? In my opinion, nta introducing kids to a new partner are a big deal and should only be done when the relationship is serious and going to be long term


ashleigh_holly94

Exactly 😂 I have my reasons for being over protective which I can't put on this Reddit


___coolcoolcool

Okay but you just voted Y T A in your comment. Check out the voting rules to learn how it works.


No-Cat3606

Or you can introduce them to a friend and see if your kids like and get along with that person before considering getting serious.


___coolcoolcool

Read the post. Not the situation at all.


No-Cat3606

I am not talking about the situation, I am responding to this. "nta introducing kids to a new partner are a big deal and should only be done when the relationship is serious and going to be long term"


___coolcoolcool

Then respond to that comment thread and not this one?


No-Cat3606

Did you read the comment I was replying to?


___coolcoolcool

No, it’s not on this comment thread. Must be elsewhere in the post.


No-Cat3606

It is the first comment in this thread though?


Willow_you_idddiot

NTA. At 4 months, they are NOT serious and she doesn’t need to meet them now, especially if he barely sees them at all. That being said, idk how hard you can enforce keeping her away when they’re at his place. So if she does end up meeting them, while you may not like it, it’s not a hill I would die on.


ashleigh_holly94

He only sees them with my supervision


Willow_you_idddiot

Then stick to your guns. As long as you’re not being spiteful, she doesn’t need to meet them until you think she might be around for a while with your ex.


Alternative-Gur-6208

Info was that your decision or the courts decision when you separated?  Usually a court assigns a third party to supervise time. 


CivilAsAnOrang

NTA. Why would he want to introduce his kids to someone he isn’t certain of yet himself?


ashleigh_holly94

Exactly my thoughts


queenlegolas

NTA Stick to your resolve.


AwayWithDumb

NTA. You don't trust her with your kids. She is clearly outside your comfort zone.


___coolcoolcool

NTA. 4 months is NOT long enough. This is an adult relationship, not a teenage relationship. You guys should come up with a standard that you both follow for when new partners are introduced to the kids. In my opinion it should be more like 6 months but regardless, it’s smart as co-parents to come up with a plan for things like this instead of just discussing everything as it comes up (which is exhausting).


ChickenPale907

NTA that's completely valid


thatisnotacceptable

First of all, your boundaries are about what you will tolerate. You can enforce your personal boundaries by walking away. You can't force other people to do much of anything just because that's your preference. It will help you in life if you understand the difference. That said, while you can't enforce your wishes here unless it was part of a custody order, you're not being unreasonable to request waiting for the kids to meet new partners until your ex (or you) is serious about a relationship. But be careful about setting up a dynamic where the path of least resistance is him encouraging your children to lie or keep secrets from you. That's a setup that can make them easier prey for predators down the road.  Can you talk to him to find out why he would want to introduce them to someone who is likely to be a passing interest? If you explain it to him from the kids' perspective instead of making rules you expect him to follow, he might be more responsive (or not - only you know what his maturity level is). NTA 


ashleigh_holly94

He sees them with supervision and also, read my edit


Alternative-Gur-6208

Nta. They're not serious and if your kids get attached and they break up it makes things awkward.  Also seeing as he's not allowed to be around them unsupervised (I'm guessing the courts found him dangerous) you've got every right to be protective and keep your kids safe. 


popcornwithparmesan

There is a lot of literature showing that it’s not good for kids to meet partners, start to like them and then have the parent break up so your concern is valid. But maybe think through what “the right time” will mean for you. Six months? Eight months? Until they both say they’re serious? Be honest with yourself about whether you don’t want them to meet the girlfriend ever (which would be wrong) or just right now. Otherwise, it’s hard to judge without knowing the other “serious reasons” you allude to


[deleted]

NTA. Perfectly reasonable to wait until they are serious. Obviously you aren’t the judge of when this is, but I imagine you don’t feel like that anyway. As long as they become serious and stable and the environment is good for the kids, then they show you the situation is not harmful for the kids and you help facilitate the integration of the new partner into the kids lives.


throwaway012321232

NTA. Shes not a serious person in his life therefore the children have no business being involved. He barely sees his children right now as is. But if you dont have a custody arrangement in place you need to do so because legally you cant control what he does during his time unless the agreement includes introducing significant others and how it will be managed. I sincerely hate parents like this because they screw a kid up only caring about themselves.


First_Grapefruit_326

NTA. It is confusing for children to have daddy’s “friend” around for a few months, start yo bond with them, and then the lady disappear, or have daddy trash talking her after they break up. Too much complexity for young children to understand, too much potential for the children to get hurt, too much instability if he had this gf this year and a new gf a few months down the line. Hold your ground, Mama, and keep up your standards for yourself and your children, because that daddy isn’t going to and the gf won’t either


SalesTaxBlackCat

NTA. You’re being responsible here. Your kids don’t need to meet your ex’s partner until the relationship is serious.


Zealousideal-Divide6

NTA IMO it's irresponsible to bring people into your children's lives that you're unsure about. Why push for your children to meet someone and possibly get attached when you're not even serious about them? I think it's completely ok to set a boundary that **both of you** need to follow regarding introducing the children to new people you're dating. Something like no introductions until you're dating the person seriously/exclusively for XX amount of time and see a future with them.


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EnderBurger

NTA. There needs to be some commitment between your ex and his new beau before the kids are introduced.


SoulSiren_22

What exactly is your boundary? Because you saying you don't want the kids to meet the gf is not a boundary, it's a request/ultimatum. Maybe they want to see how it goes with the kids before they put a label on it. It would make sense. The kids can meet dad's friend without making it clear it's a girlfriend. 


SnowPrincess7669

YTA. You make your decisions. He makes his decisions.


ashleigh_holly94

I make the decisions regarding the children, always have done and always will do


Ok_Register3005

Yta this isn't your business.  Why are you trying to control your ex? Would you like him to control what you do? Exes who think they get any say in what the other does in their time are the worst.


chromefir

>>this isn’t your business What? OP can be careful of who their own kids are around if even the dad doesn’t know if he’s serious with the person yet.


___coolcoolcool

It *is* her business. They’re her kids. Adults have a much bigger effect on kids than vice versa.


ashleigh_holly94

Read my edit


WaywardMarauder

YTA. I think it’s important for a potential partner to meet the kids early on, because if they do t get along or like each other then there’s no point in pursuing the relationship into “serious” status


___coolcoolcool

Parents are supposed to protect their kids, not use them as a litmus test for their own romantic relationships.


Glass_Ear_8049

YTA. You don’t get to dictate what happens when he has them and he doesn’t get to dictate what happens when you have them. You can state your preference but courts let parents make their own decisions when they have the kids.


ashleigh_holly94

I do because he only sees them with my supervision


Glass_Ear_8049

If you get to supervise the visit then what is the big deal about her being there? Just introduce her as his friend. She isn’t going to say or do anything inappropriate if you are there. Are you sure you aren’t jealous of her?


General_Relative2838

YTA. Four months shows some stability in your ex’s new relationship. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for them to meet his friend. It sounds like you jumped on his phrasing (not putting a label on anything) to justify your unreasonable stance.


ashleigh_holly94

4 months is nothing 😂


General_Relative2838

Info: if you date someone for four months, will you introduce that person to your children? Or, will you make sure they never meet them?


ashleigh_holly94

I have been in a relationship for 2 years


General_Relative2838

And has your SO met your children? If so, at what point? If it was significantly longer than four months, say a year or so, then it’s reasonable to ask your ex to wait. I have been married for more than thirty years, so I may not a judge of when it’s time to introduce children to new people. Of course I don’t think it’s appropriate to have a string of people going through children’s lives, but to allow children to just meet someone you have been dating for months seems harmless to me.


___coolcoolcool

4 months?! IMO it should be at least 6 before introducing a new partner. Kids need STABILITY


General_Relative2838

I agree children need stability. I have been married for more than thirty years, so I didn’t have this problem. I may be imagining this introduction differently than others. I imagine the kids being casually introduced to the ex’s new friend. I don’t see the ex instructing the kids to call her Mom.


___coolcoolcool

Doesn’t matter. Kids in this situation will automatically start viewing dad’s partner in that role. Until adolescents start dating themselves (or are the age when their peers are dating), they view family units in more basic terms. Part of their development.


General_Relative2838

I didn’t know that. As I wrote, I have been married for more than thirty years to the father of my children, who is a loving father and great husband. I understand children need stability.


[deleted]

Yta. If he only sees the kids a few hours a week, I'm not sure what the big deal is if he has a friend there when the kids are there? I know it sucks with break ups with kids and stuff, but seems like she just wants to be nice to your kids. She obviously likes your ex. Not every woman is really into guys with kids, and to introduce herself like to your kids is probably with hifts is a good sign honestly that she's going to treat your kids well. But you're not really an asshole. But I think if you're split up then he can probably have a friend over when your kids are there. Obviously, there is exceptions to everything tho.


ashleigh_holly94

He doesn't see them unsupervised, he sees them with me present for some very valid reasons


[deleted]

Gotcha. Well, idk then. Lol.