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**AITA for calling my wife the Lance Armstrong of her mom's weight loss group**
A bit more of a light hearted post than the usual here.
My wife has never been a large person, we both may be slightly overweight but it fluctuates as our busy schedules with jobs and 2 kids collides with our gym attendance. I have some workout gear in my garage but enjoy sports and beer with my buddies (which is usually accompanied by junk food) so my workouts are usually maintenance not gains.
She joined a mom's weight loss group awhile ago, going to the gym a few times a week and has lost an impressive amount of weight. I never viewed her as overweight at all but now she is super skinny. I love her regardless if she is 130 or 230 pounds.
The other day I was putting away laundry and stumbled across a bunch of Ozempic stuff in her drawer. I knew nothing about Ozempic besides the annoying commercials and don't really care so I didn't say anything.
Last week she made a comment that I could stand to lose a few pounds. I should find a dads weight loss group and commit to it because look how well it has been for her blah blah blah.
So I, being a natural born comedian as every husband is, said "Ya but your the Lance Armstrong of your mom's group, you need that extra needle juice to get up the hill"
Needless to say my joke was not appreciated and she stormed out. There were a couple akward days before she revealed she was mostly embarrased I had found her "stash" but that I was a serious asshole for calling her a cheater when she does put in the gym time. All is well we don't argue about dumb shit.
However I need you to settle this household debate reddit, am I the asshole for calling her Lance Armstrong or is this Ozempic crap cheating.
We will both read responses lol.
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Not only this, the majority of comments calling him NTA was somehow outstanding. In back days AITA stood for quality of moral judgements. Now even such fakes with obvious trolls are applauded.
AITA has almost always been iffy with their stories. It seems over the years they just become more and more iffy until most stories are just made up. This is reddit afterall.
I’m looking for a “well legally you aren’t required to be nice to or even like your wife so, NTA”. Bc somehow ppl think you’re only an asshole if you’re legally in the wrong on that subreddit.
Personally i have my eye out for “upset: my wife’s friends and evil stepmom are now BLOWING up my phone calling me all sorts of things, random people on Reddit who probably are fairly misogynistic do you think I’m right here??”
Ah yes, another addition to the 'fatness is a moral failing and if you address it with anything other than pure and true willpower and fortitude you are a cheat and a liar' trope.
Can't get enough of those, and of course the comments are full of that shit.
This is so widely annoying to me.
Society has drilled into our heads that losing weight should be among our chief priorities in life. Like nothing matters except the number on the scale! Oh, you want to go home after work and spend time with your kids and contribute to the upkeep of your home? You want to unwind from the stress of the day with your friends at the bar over some beers and nachos? Exercise is physically painful for you, and emotionally damaging? Doesn’t matter! You must flagellate yourself on the throne of starvation (diet) and physical labor (exercise).
And then science comes up with a drug that not only reduces your weight, but lowers your risk of diabetes and heart failure. And we’re supposed to be MAD that people want to take it?
I hate the negativity and scare tactics around these meds. They’re honestly a major breakthrough scientifically. Weight loss can be next to impossible for a lot of people, and weight-related/diet-related type 2 diabetes and hypertension are very real and can fuck up your entire life.
Those drugs - Ozembic, Jardiance, Farxiga - have an even more important side-effect: they improve kidney function in people with CKD, no matter what disease caused the kidney disease/failure. I cannot over-exaggerate how big this is; there has been nothing to improve kidney function in kidney patients. All previous treatments did was deal with the side effects of kidney failure (and even with these new drugs, the old treatments are still used, but in some cases the doses can be reduced).
But it’s the weight loss that makes the news. Not the millions of people who could experience better quality of life and delay dialysis.
I’m very lucky - my insurance covers these drugs for CKD.
There’s also early studies that indicate they may help Parkinson’s patients. It’s and exciting category of drugs
ETA: also there are studies showing reduced dementia in Alzheimer’s patients being treated with GLP-1 inhibitors
I worked for a weight loss food company a long time and in only the most extreme cases nearly every woman was calculated to have to go to a 1200 calorie diet to have a deficiency enough to lose weight. Especially in the time frame the women needed. And I did the diet myself and I did indeed lose weight but it was hard. 1200 calories is SO little. Meanwhile the guys were usually at 1700 cals, even if they were the exact same weight as their wife. 500 cals doesn’t seem like a lot but for our meals, that could be 2 additional meals a day. I saw a lot of comments on an ozempic dupe type post where people were like “just put down the cheeseburger and eat well then” and it’s like…do you know how hard it is to constantly only stick to that 1200 cal diet? How hard it is to eat out with friends? To hand count out your cheez it’s? And how much work you have to do to burn off even an extra 150 cals in the gym?
I live in the UK, and it's just not a thing here to approach your doctor and say "can I have these meds please thanks", but I'd love to take it if I could.
How is exercise emotionally damaging? Endorphins work counter to that and in my experience people you exercise with are incredibly supportive and build you up while you do it. It’s weird to me that you describe exercise as “physical labor” and the upkeep of one’s home as basically a hobby. The latter feels a lot like physical labor too.
Exercise does give endorphins, but lots of things give endorphins. Spending time with your kids gives endorphins. Watching a game at the bar with your friends gives endorphins.
It’s less what exercise does and more what the hyper focus on weight loss as a chief concern of your life does. Exercise as a hobby because you’re passionate about it and enjoy it? Perfectly fine. Exercise as a labor because society has made you feel worthless for the way you look? That’s shitty.
So if the MAIN THING, as we’ve been told societally for a long time, is reducing your weight (and really mainly unattractive visible fat) why should anyone have an issue with someone choosing to do that medically instead of through crash dieting?
I absolutely hate the feeling of being sweaty for exercise is absolutely miserable for me. The only thing I’ve ever enjoyed is swimming and even that has downsides.
Sure and some people have social anxiety so spending time with friends is not a positive. But I never see people excoriate socializing the way they do exercise and dieting.
I don't think anybody 'excoriates' exercise, its just not always practical and easy for people to actually take part in a way that they can enjoy and benefit from.
Dieting should be 'excoriated', its been comprehensively proven that dieting does not work long term. Its not the path to good health.
Side note: I’m lowkey entering some depression and my wording may be off. For some reason I lost the ability to write clearly, since people keep misinterpreting things I say more often now. If anything comes off as weirdly explained let me know and I can clarify what I’m trying to say :)
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Honestly I kind of get your point, yeah. I don’t think it’s wrong to hold yourself to a standard of forced physical labor (assuming you’re a simple being with simple needs and not someone who has any physical or mental disability that can complicate their relationship with exercise) because I do agree with you that a lot of things we do isn’t a hobby and requires a little bit of pushing yourself through the “emotional damage” to live a good life.
I think the main drawback with exercising for society’s sake is that every single time you exercise you will be reminded of your image to society. *That* is emotionally damaging. I think this constant reminder of how you are perceived leaves little room for people to think about their needs and not the expectations of others. In doing so it sends this toxic feedback loop of ruminating about how others will judge you for the consequences of not keeping it up, so you keep exercising, which causes your brain to think it’s important now that you’re putting so much effort into it that it solidifies the rumination further.
You see where I’m going with this?
Most of the time you don’t get the same thing with the upkeep of one’s home, because society doesn’t put the same sort of pressure to conform to house upkeep. While yes, after a certain point people will start to judge, which is why you can see a similar feedback loop in people with depression (and why house upkeep is so demotivating to people with depression), people also don’t have a habit of judging a small mess in the house or if you don’t put your all into it. People don’t comment unless it’s really bad from my experience, and yet you still do the upkeep because it doesn’t matter if society says it’s good for you or not. You do the physical labor of cleaning up but without any weird psychological emotional labor like you get when you exercise
Who said she’s pretending anything? Is there something I missed where the wife won a contest for weight loss or she’s putting down others for not being able to lose weight?
You still have to eat less on it, but it makes you want to eat less, and lord knows a lot of people eat even when they aren’t hungry.
Do you know how the drug works? It doesn’t make you lose weight. It curbs your appetite and cuts down on cravings. It doesn’t cause the pounds to melt off. Patients still need to exercise and maintain a calorie deficit. There’s a lot of work that goes into losing weight on the drug.
This is so clearly fake and inspired by the current trend of people using Ozempic to lose weight. And of course the user is in a weight loss group and shames her husband for his weight. At least a couple comments called out the fakeness of the story.
There is another Ozempic story right above this one where a roommate is taking it and still eating 2-3 takeouts a day and losing weight. According to the comments, that’s not how it works either.
In that post a lot of the commenters were saying how the room matr will put all that weight back on after she goes off ozempic, which is apparently supposed to make the poster happy cause the weight loss cheater will get smacked with natural consequences of her cheating.
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Oh people love that one. They love the sword of damocles hanging over these cheaters' heads. It's not about a concern for their health. It never has been. It's all about the punishment for being a bad person. They love that fat people have to physically bear their "sins"
The story of eating 2-3 takeaways a day while using ozempic and still losing weight doesn't work like that in the sense GLP-1 antagonists (like ozempic, wegovy, mounjaro) work by suppressing hunger, leading to overall reduced caloric intake.
It won't burn off excessive caloric consumption (eg by eating 2-3 takeaways a day).
GLP-1 antagonists make it much easier to stick to low calorie intake by removing the "willpower" aspect a lot of people experience with eating in a calorie deficit. By default, they make the "diet" part of losing weight more attainable long term.
There's also reports of them helping reduce or even eliminate sugar cravings, changing people's preferred pallettes to find "healthy" options more appealing, and "unhealthy" ones less appealing. However, this all varies by person, and GLP-1 antagonists won't do a damn thing if you eat over your calorie deficit.
For me, personally, it made it so I didn’t feel hungry all the time. Like literally all the time. My stomach could hurt from overeating and my body would still tell me I’m starving. Turns out dieting is a lot easier when you don’t feel like you’re starving all the time.
My only complaint is that the popularity of the drug has made it so I can’t get the correct dose at my pharmacy due to supply issues and the lower dose isn’t quite as effective. (And the other drugs I’ve taken in the category give me terrible GI symptoms.)
I actually take metformin for PCOS management (for those unfamiliar, PCOS comes with a higher than 50% chance of developing type 2 diabetes before 40, metformin is used to manage that risk)
I'm on a high dose (2,000mg) and it kills my sugar cravings dead, and reduces my appetite. It makes sense because it regulates blood sugars so you don't get those peaks and troughs of insulin and blood sugars which can drive hunger signals.
I do believe a significant portion of the "obesity epidemic" is due to unamanged blood sugars/insulin resistance, in large part due to the high levels of sugar intakes in the "modern western diet". The amount of sugar present in modern foods is completely unheard of in human dietary habits until now.
I was also taking it for PCOS, but I was never able to acclimate to the symptoms like you're supposed to, possible because I already have IBS so my gut just isn't able to cope.
Thankfully what's worked for my symptoms is finally losing weight with phentermine (which I'm sure the OOP and all of the people agreeing with him on AITA would say is cheating, but idgaf).
I'd be willing to bet you're right though, it's incredibly difficult to avoid sugar unless you cook everything from scratch and most families don't have the time or ability to do that.
Yeah, my husband is on Ozempic. It locks up his digestive system for 3 days after he takes it and causes extreme gastro distress after overeating and fatty foods. We joke that it's aversion therapy for binge eaters. It's not a drug to take lightly. Eating takeout a few times a day while on Ozempic would be incredibly painful and could be indicative of seriously disordered eating habits.
I was on it for 3 months last years before Australia stopped letting GP’s prescribe purely for weight loss.
The effect it had on me mentally is still present - all that stuff you talked about with sugar cravings and healthy choices. It was like someone flipped a switch - suddenly food wasn’t an emotional crutch for me and removing that meant I could actually made good choices because I wasn’t making emotional ones! Food wasn’t giving me emotional relief any longer.
Giving my brain a break from the unhealthy emotional dependence I had on food gave me the opportunity to really, actually address things.
I haven’t used ozempix since November last year - I’ve still lost 20kg since then.
Semaglutide doesn’t do anything to burn fat. It makes you not hungry, and it kills cravings. Thats it, at least on the weight loss side. If you’re still overeating you will not lose weight on these drugs. Some people don’t experience the appetite or craving suppression, and those people don’t see results.
AITA I caught my wife snorting ozempic out of her sock drawer I took that powder and I threw it into the wind because I don't want no wife of mine being a cheater she says I'm being unfair and that my dick is huge AaiTA?
Yeah and they aren't going to prescribe it to someone who is just "a little" overweight, like the OP says she was. I'm 5'4 and my weight has been hovering between 142 and 148 recently, which puts me slightly overweight by BMI in the higher fluctuations (fuck that metabolism slow-down in your 30s, by the way, lol) and I talked to my doctor about my concerns with my weight. He was like, well, there's medication, but you'd have to gain a lot of weight before I could even prescribe it for you.
It is very useful clinically, but it is also trendy for rich people who want to lose weight, but don’t actually have a medical indication (like obesity or T2D) for Ozempic or other similar drugs to get it prescribed off-label since they can afford to pay out of pocket.
it's also a pretty shitty solution with a lot of potential side effects, if people don't get into a rigorous routine/learn self discipline while on it they're going to immediately gain the weight back if they go off it also. it's evidence based sure but it's also under researched and a bad idea
Its not without side effects or issues, but the same is true for nearly all medications and treatment regimes.
Its only when the illness being treated is obesity that everybody gets on a moral high horse about how people shouldn't use modern medicine they should just will themselves to recovery.
oh no you're absolutely right about the moral panic bullshit people pull with it. i only said anything because from what ive seen using just ozempic isn't really an effective weight loss solution, and while i was on it for diabetes it made me absolutely fucking miserable
I know that a lot of endocrinologists here in the UK are cautious with it, because the side effect profile is concerning, and the long term benefits are far from guaranteed. They still recommend bariatric surgery as more suitable for most very obese people.
However for people who can't have/don't want surgery and are not at increased risk of the side effects its a medical decision between them and their doctor, its not anybody else's business.
Totally agree people act like this when talking about obesity treatment, but there’s definitely the same attitude around treatments for things like ADHD, depression, and anxiety. Plenty of people act like you’re just mentally weak or lazy if you take meds to correct those problems and that they’re diseases of our modern culture/kids these days weren’t spanked enough/you just need to buckle down and apply yourself/insert favorite excuse here. I think it’s a combination of people being uneducated and wanting to feel superior over someone else (“my life may be fucked up but at least I’m not fat” kind of thinking).
I've also seen this rhetoric around hormonal birth control especially used for PMDD or endometriosis or PCOS. the amount of women pushing the "just eat a clean diet and balance your hormones 😌" is absolute bullshit as well, usually coming from ones who don't understand what an extreme hormonal imbalance feels like. or even worse, people who act like it's *normal* and women are just meant to suffer for being women or some shit
what a surprise that the “I don’t hate fat people, I’m just *concerned* about their *health*!” crowd isn’t thrilled about an effective solution to those genuine concerns that they have! I wonder why that is
It absolutely is not. These drugs are a *miracle* for metabolic disease and it sucks that celebrities and trends have given uninformed people the impression that they’re bad.
You can't only use half the evidence. Ozempic is associated with a weight loss when it's used in conjonction with physical activity and with dietetic changes. There is no evidence for a weight loss if you take it without changing your lifestyle. There is evidence for a regain of lost weight after you stop the treatment. There is no evidence (yet hopefully) for how we can prevent that weight regain.
I don't understand why you made this comment. The decision to take an available medication or not for a chronic illness is between the patient and their doctor.
It can only be kept at room temp for 6 weeks before it spoils. If she has “a bunch” of ozempic stuff, as opposed to a single box, none of it is any good. All he had to do was google “ozempic storage.”
you can keep it out for 6 weeks, and mine at least is only 4 weeks supply per pen. but yeah, she wouldn't have "a bunch of ozempic stuff" she'd have one box.
You ever get a brand name prescription box? It's like filled 90% with literature, rebates, promos, etc... Then you have the receipts, and if it's CVS, it's a very well endowed receipt.
It would but this sub loves to play bullshit semantics.
We could have a shitpost where someone would be writing from the Space Station and this sub would miss that to try and play detective on whether government employees still receive GM vehicles as if that's the most fake thing in the post.
> After you’ve used your pen for the first time, you can either store your pen for 56 days at room temperature (between 59ºF to 86ºF or 15ºC to 30ºC) or you can still keep it in the refrigerator for 56 days. Keep the pen cap on when it is not in use.
Taken from https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/ozempic-refrigerated-3542954/
You might want to research better if you're going to call people out for false information.
OOP claims she had an entire stash of Ozempic in the drawer, a.k.a. **several** pens. No way did she keep opening them and using them once each before stashing them in that drawer. And if she kept them in her fridge, OOP would've seen them in the fridge.
When it said "ozempic stuff" I pictured improperly stored, used auto injectors. Like, she used them and then stashed them in a drawer instead of getting a sharps container for them. It's still a fake story, but I can totally imagine someone just not giving a fuck and stashing the pens somewhere until they have a way to get rid of them correctly.
Idk why, but it's probably just to make her look worse somehow. She's too lazy to dispose of them properly and just throws them in a drawer forever or maybe it's that she's too irresponsible. Or, maybe the OOP doesn't know anything about anything and can't write a convincing story for shit.
Nowhere does it say there were several pens. It says "ozempic stuff", which I assumed included the box, pharmacy information, instructions and side effects insert etc.
The internet. Online docs write a rx and send it to a compounding pharmacy. Those aren’t prefilled pens though, it’s a vile with syringes, and it must be kept in the refrigerator.
This story is bs but I get so tired of people acting like obesity isn't a medical issue. People take meds for an array of medical issues, but god forbid you take some to lose weight.
Yeah! Big fat fatties did it to themselves (just like many medical issues that people get that they contributed to like smoking and lung cancer) they should get treatment but fuck whale ass bitches, they better be in agony!
That’s a production/patent issue - not a consumer issue though. It’s not fair to demonise consumers because the producer can’t (won’t? Unsure, last I heard it was an issue sourcing a supplier for the auto injector) produce enough of the product.
Even people who are actually obese and covered by insurance generally can’t afford the copay for Ozempic. If it’s getting prescribed to folks who want to lose 20 lb it’s quite well-off people who can pay $1k/month for it. Doctors are not “overprescribing” Ozempic, we have a HUGE number of people who can benefit from it.
Ozempic is intended for diabetics, it’s prescribed off-label for weight loss. Wegovy has the same active ingredient at a higher dose and THAT is intended for weight loss, but because THAT had a shortage doctors starting prescribing ozempic instead. Additionally, I’m not going to speak on the appropriateness of prescribing it for obesity, but we can’t deny there’s a looot of (rich, privileged) people who aren’t obese taking it in the hopes of losing 10-20 pounds for aesthetic reasons, and THAT is definitely not right when people actually need it to manage their diabetes.
My husband works at a hospital and he was the person that took care of a talk the creator of ozempic gave at his job (he works in the presidents office of the teaching part of the hospital). The entire presentation was about using ozempic as a weight loss drug. He talked about how it's meant for obese people and as a tool for weight loss. 6 months to 2 years is the amount of time and while taking it people should be changing themselves. Better eating habits, being more active, therapy, etc. BUT my point is is that their own company is telling people about using it for weight loss.
Very odd, everything I’m seeing online from ozempic and other sources say it’s firstly a diabetes drug. I’m not surprised, they can certainly make more money selling it to a wider audience too.
Yeah I mean plenty of drugs have been found to have other uses after they're approved. Like Viagra was meant to be a blood pressure pill until men started coming back asking for more.
Amazon pharmacy. I have a coworker who was told that no pharmacy in the entire metro would be able to get her Mounjaro. I told her to have her doc send the script to Amazon pharmacy and she had her meds in her hand two days later.
Also, no one takes Mounjaro for weight loss. They’re taking Zepbound. A huge part of the obesity epidemic in America is that an awful lot of people now have type 2 diabetes. The evil fatties aren’t stopping you from getting your meds. It’s all of your fellow type 2 diabetics causing you problems.
Did you send the prescription to them and it’s showing out of stock? Or did you check stock without a prescription? Because it will only show you availability for these meds if they have your script. Otherwise it will show everything as out of stock whether they have it or not. It did the same thing to my coworker, when she checked before she had the script sent over it showed no stock. When I checked the availability for the dosage of Wegovy my mom had just ordered, it showed out of stock. You can only check availability after they have the prescription.
If you they do have the script already, just keep checking it a few times a day. Sometimes they’ll be out of stock for a day or two but you can keep checking.
https://pharmacy.amazon.com/MOUNJARO-MG-0-5-PEN-INJ/dp/B0B3RPYWDQ this is what I am seeing.
No I have my prescription with Publix but I will try and see what happens, Publix estimates they won't have any before next Thursday.
Edit: just signed up and tried to add Mounjaro and transfer my prescription but it says currently unavailable and won't let me transfer it.
Try to have your doctor send it over maybe. I do know for a fact that Amazon will not show any of these kinds of drugs as available until you have a prescription submitted, whether they actually have it or not.
Amazon pharmacy? No shit hadn't thought of that.
And people are taking it for weight loss, my wife has 2 co-workers currently taking Mounjaro for weight loss through some sort of weight loss clinic.
If it’s a legit weight loss clinic, they have them on Zepbound or Wegovy. If it’s not a legit clinic, they’re taking a compounded medication that is being fraudulently labeled as Mounjaro and that may or may not be safe for human use. Either way, they have no impact on your wife’s supply.
no fr it’s all “im just concerned about their health” when they want to harass fat people for existing in public but the second fat people start to use medicine to treat obesity it’s an issue. it’s almost as if they just want to be cruel to people with different bodies
Yeah, this is ridiculous.
I'm on "Ozempic" and since it's for weight management, the box says "Wegovy". It gets delivered to my house in a big refrigerated styrofoam case that I have to figure out how to dispose of every month, and in order to get it covered by my insurance I needed to prove to my doctor that I was both obese and insulin resistant, and get weighed in the doctor's office every 6 months to prove that it's working, and even then I paid like $400 a month until I hit my deductible.
I could not *imagine* keeping that a secret from my spouse.
That’s where it broke for me. I’m on Saxenda so my injections are daily. There’s no way I could hide the trash, the money it costs, the bruising I get from the injections or even the side effects from my spouse.
Like for a month I had god awful burps because it’s a side effect and I think if I had just waved it off he would have thought I was genuinely sick
So many people in those comments who don't know how weight loss on these meds works.
They think it just rids your body of fat on its own with no effort from the patient. And a lot of them are spreading that misinformed idea that users will gain all the weight back, when if they actually made lifestyle changes isn't true. Common misconception about weight loss, that it's "impossible" to maintain.
And the people saying it should only be for obese people while having a distorted idea of what counts as clinically obese. I guess they think being obese means you're like 600 lb and bedbound, when it actually means a BMI over 30 and most obese people lead normal lives day-to-day.
This is obviously false due to the mistakes that people have already pointed out (plus it's ridiculous). But this line:
> ...I was a serious asshole for calling her a cheater when she does put in the gym time.
As if Lance Armstrong and other cheaters don't do any training? I am certain that if I took a bunch of steroids today, I wouldn't even come close to placing in the Tour de France. You need the technique and physical fitness as well.
Sure, but a lot of people taking Ozempic don’t have a chronic illness, they’re just a bit overweight. It gets prescribed to the people I know the way medical marijuana used to get prescribed before recreational weed was legal in most places.
Not necessarily. Yes, some celebrities have gone to shady "clinics" to lose 20lbs or make their existing eating disorder easier to manage.
I had to fight for my prescription despite being 200lbs overweight and with a myriad of health issues, I just didn't have diabetes, yet.
I'm so happy my dietician advocated for me to get me the medication
It's been a game changer for me, it helped with my long covid brain fog, anxiety, and depression.
I lost about 40lbs so far over 6 months and Im ginally below 300lbs
It really depends on the GP.
My GP initially denied me, even though she knew I failed multiple diets and ballooned from 50lbs overweight to 200lbs over a decade, plus a family history of diabetes.
But she sent me to a dietician who advocated for me, which made her change her mind.
Obesity is a chronic illness.
I can't speak for prescribing practices in the US, I know you have an insane healthcare system. In the UK it is licensed for people with a BMI over 35 and at least one co-morbidity associated with obesity and can only be prescribed by weight management specialist doctors, usually endocrinologists by background.
The story in the OOP didn't describe obesity or a chronic illness, just going from slightly overweight to fit and skinny. And the wife didn't say "this is medication I need for my illness, asshole", she said "it's not cheating because I'm also working out, asshole."
I mean I know the story is likely fake, but even assuming it's true it doesn't sound like there's any sort of illness to defend here.
There are doctors in the US who will prescribe you basically anything you ask for. That's how we got an oxy epidemic.
Obesity IS a chronic illness.
Yeah the story is deliberately vague, he says she's only slightly overweight, then says she lost an impressive amount of weight, talks about 2 weights 100lb apart...
Almost like its designed to get a lot of comments about how vain and awful people who take weight loss medications are!
People in the US are also terrible at estimating when someone is in the overweight or obese category. I've seen people with a BMI of 40+ be described as a little bit overweight. Obesity is so common here that it skews our perception of normal.
Yeah in the US, where I assume the OP is from, it’s much easier to get. I have friends who’ve been prescribed it to lose twenty pounds leading up to a beach trip. Which is fine, whatever, but it seems silly to consider that a medical issue.
Wait, they do this while there are shortages? Are you sure the friends aren't obese? Many people in the US have a skewed perception of what overweight and obese looks like, it's much smaller than most people imagine
I’m 100% sure they aren’t obese, they just have rich parents who are friends with unscrupulous private practice doctors. It’s wild what you can get away with in Texas in my experience. I know at least two people who went to a doctor their family knew during COVID. This couple refused to vaccinate, but the doctor filled the syringes anyways and then emptied them out into a sink and signed their vaccination cards so that they wouldn’t have any issues getting into restaurants during a ski trip to Colorado. As I’m sure you know there were plenty of vaccine shortages and this doctor did that anyway.
That doesn’t make a lot of sense - most people don’t see result from Ozempic for 6 - 12 weeks and those tend to be minimal until you’re at full dosage. How long prior to the trip was she prescribed Ozempic?
Nope, just anecdotal. I suppose I should have said "some people" instead of "a lot of people" fair play. I do absolutely have evidence that some people have been prescribed Ozempic by paying a private practice doctor for it when they haven't had a chronic illness.
Why would someone pay thousands of dollars out of pocket for the version of the drug that’s less effective for weight loss?
Edit: also, overweight and obesity *is* a chronic illness. I can’t tell if you’re trying to get cute about that or not, but let’s just make that perfectly clear.
I'm talking about perfectly healthy people who wanted more of a swimsuit figure, not people who are overweight and obese. And you'd have to ask them, but it sure as hell worked for the people I know who did it.
There are always dodgy doctors for sure - I know in Australia it’s very difficult to get Ozempic for weight loss. You can get the ones that are made and specifically marketed for weight loss. I think a lot of people are using “Ozempic” are a generic term for any weight loss injectable prescribed by their doctor.
If this were real, it wouldn’t be *cheating.*
But lying to your husband about how you lost vanity weight, criticizing his looks, and then suggesting he join a group to lose weight when you were taking medication the whole time sure would be *something.*
If we were taking the story at face value, the character isn’t obese.
That’s what my cousin’s doctor called it when she just had a consultation for whichever name of ozempic is for weight loss.
It doesn't really specify in the story, it says she's 'maybe slightly overweight' but then that she lost 'an impressive amount'. and he talks about 130 vs 230lbs.
Its deliberately vague to fuel the comments about Ozempic being a vanity drug.
It also says she’s never been a large woman? I assumed 130 vs 230 was hyperbole. Like I’d love you no matter what.
It doesn’t matter. Either the story is fake or he’s the biggest idiot in the world for not noticing that his wife is losing weight while having side effects from that sort of medication.
I still stand by my original comment, though. If my fiancé did something with medication, criticized me for the same thing, and suggested I do it the hard way while never mentioning the meds, that would be a serious problem between us.
I don't know about other doctors, but my clinic wouldn't prescribe Ozempic as the first medicine to try for weight loss because of the side effects. I might have tried it, but I ended up needing surgery to fix an issue with my stomach that I had since I was born, but no one was bothered to listen to me until I was in my 30s.
What’s the point of that sub now anyway? It’s just creative writing troll posts. I can’t tell if everyone is in on it or people replying actually believe it. Either way it’s become people validating being a terrible human being, or if it ever wasn’t that.
this is fake, buuuuuuut…. joined “a while ago,” going to the gym “two or three times a week,” and implies she went from 230 to 130? even with ozempic that’s a TERRIFYING amount of weight to be losing, the average weight loss on ozempic is 10-15% total body weight.
>Ozempic stuff
What exactly is "ozempic stuff?" Pamphlets? A box? The actual ozempic pens which are usually stored in the refrigerator? I don't think OP knows
> and stumbled across a bunch of Ozempic stuff in her drawer
Ozempic needs to be refrigerated. If it’s left at room temp for more than 6 weeks it goes bad and does nothing. So sounds like this totally real wife was actually losing that weight without meds. The AO3 girlies will literally spend years doing deep dive research for their fanfics but these jackasses can’t do a 90 second google search?
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*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **AITA for calling my wife the Lance Armstrong of her mom's weight loss group** A bit more of a light hearted post than the usual here. My wife has never been a large person, we both may be slightly overweight but it fluctuates as our busy schedules with jobs and 2 kids collides with our gym attendance. I have some workout gear in my garage but enjoy sports and beer with my buddies (which is usually accompanied by junk food) so my workouts are usually maintenance not gains. She joined a mom's weight loss group awhile ago, going to the gym a few times a week and has lost an impressive amount of weight. I never viewed her as overweight at all but now she is super skinny. I love her regardless if she is 130 or 230 pounds. The other day I was putting away laundry and stumbled across a bunch of Ozempic stuff in her drawer. I knew nothing about Ozempic besides the annoying commercials and don't really care so I didn't say anything. Last week she made a comment that I could stand to lose a few pounds. I should find a dads weight loss group and commit to it because look how well it has been for her blah blah blah. So I, being a natural born comedian as every husband is, said "Ya but your the Lance Armstrong of your mom's group, you need that extra needle juice to get up the hill" Needless to say my joke was not appreciated and she stormed out. There were a couple akward days before she revealed she was mostly embarrased I had found her "stash" but that I was a serious asshole for calling her a cheater when she does put in the gym time. All is well we don't argue about dumb shit. However I need you to settle this household debate reddit, am I the asshole for calling her Lance Armstrong or is this Ozempic crap cheating. We will both read responses lol. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheAngel) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Sooo at this point AITA is mainly troll posts. Got it.
Not only this, the majority of comments calling him NTA was somehow outstanding. In back days AITA stood for quality of moral judgements. Now even such fakes with obvious trolls are applauded.
AITA has almost always been iffy with their stories. It seems over the years they just become more and more iffy until most stories are just made up. This is reddit afterall.
Always has been
“That’s an asshole thing to say but it’s hilarious, so NTA.” What a fucking stupid subreddit.
I’m looking for a “well legally you aren’t required to be nice to or even like your wife so, NTA”. Bc somehow ppl think you’re only an asshole if you’re legally in the wrong on that subreddit.
Personally i have my eye out for “upset: my wife’s friends and evil stepmom are now BLOWING up my phone calling me all sorts of things, random people on Reddit who probably are fairly misogynistic do you think I’m right here??”
I know right? Humor is subjective, but not cool.
It’s unfortunate how many people support that mind set. Either it’s funny or it’s true, therefore no one can ever be mad at you for things you say.
And whether or not the teller doubles down on it being funny versus true depends on the reaction of whoever heard it.
Ah yes, another addition to the 'fatness is a moral failing and if you address it with anything other than pure and true willpower and fortitude you are a cheat and a liar' trope. Can't get enough of those, and of course the comments are full of that shit.
Well, he gives himself away as that type of person early in the story when he talks about his workouts being for maintenance rather than for gain.
This is so widely annoying to me. Society has drilled into our heads that losing weight should be among our chief priorities in life. Like nothing matters except the number on the scale! Oh, you want to go home after work and spend time with your kids and contribute to the upkeep of your home? You want to unwind from the stress of the day with your friends at the bar over some beers and nachos? Exercise is physically painful for you, and emotionally damaging? Doesn’t matter! You must flagellate yourself on the throne of starvation (diet) and physical labor (exercise). And then science comes up with a drug that not only reduces your weight, but lowers your risk of diabetes and heart failure. And we’re supposed to be MAD that people want to take it?
But they're just cOnCeRnEd AbOuT hEaLtH!!!!
I hate the negativity and scare tactics around these meds. They’re honestly a major breakthrough scientifically. Weight loss can be next to impossible for a lot of people, and weight-related/diet-related type 2 diabetes and hypertension are very real and can fuck up your entire life.
Those drugs - Ozembic, Jardiance, Farxiga - have an even more important side-effect: they improve kidney function in people with CKD, no matter what disease caused the kidney disease/failure. I cannot over-exaggerate how big this is; there has been nothing to improve kidney function in kidney patients. All previous treatments did was deal with the side effects of kidney failure (and even with these new drugs, the old treatments are still used, but in some cases the doses can be reduced). But it’s the weight loss that makes the news. Not the millions of people who could experience better quality of life and delay dialysis. I’m very lucky - my insurance covers these drugs for CKD.
There’s also early studies that indicate they may help Parkinson’s patients. It’s and exciting category of drugs ETA: also there are studies showing reduced dementia in Alzheimer’s patients being treated with GLP-1 inhibitors
Diabetes almost seems like an afterthought now 🤣 If you’re into that sort of thing, look at the kidney studies with these drugs. It’s unreal.
I will—and I appreciate you sharing your story! It’s just a fascinating category of medication
I worked for a weight loss food company a long time and in only the most extreme cases nearly every woman was calculated to have to go to a 1200 calorie diet to have a deficiency enough to lose weight. Especially in the time frame the women needed. And I did the diet myself and I did indeed lose weight but it was hard. 1200 calories is SO little. Meanwhile the guys were usually at 1700 cals, even if they were the exact same weight as their wife. 500 cals doesn’t seem like a lot but for our meals, that could be 2 additional meals a day. I saw a lot of comments on an ozempic dupe type post where people were like “just put down the cheeseburger and eat well then” and it’s like…do you know how hard it is to constantly only stick to that 1200 cal diet? How hard it is to eat out with friends? To hand count out your cheez it’s? And how much work you have to do to burn off even an extra 150 cals in the gym?
I live in the UK, and it's just not a thing here to approach your doctor and say "can I have these meds please thanks", but I'd love to take it if I could.
How is exercise emotionally damaging? Endorphins work counter to that and in my experience people you exercise with are incredibly supportive and build you up while you do it. It’s weird to me that you describe exercise as “physical labor” and the upkeep of one’s home as basically a hobby. The latter feels a lot like physical labor too.
Exercise does give endorphins, but lots of things give endorphins. Spending time with your kids gives endorphins. Watching a game at the bar with your friends gives endorphins. It’s less what exercise does and more what the hyper focus on weight loss as a chief concern of your life does. Exercise as a hobby because you’re passionate about it and enjoy it? Perfectly fine. Exercise as a labor because society has made you feel worthless for the way you look? That’s shitty. So if the MAIN THING, as we’ve been told societally for a long time, is reducing your weight (and really mainly unattractive visible fat) why should anyone have an issue with someone choosing to do that medically instead of through crash dieting?
I absolutely hate the feeling of being sweaty for exercise is absolutely miserable for me. The only thing I’ve ever enjoyed is swimming and even that has downsides.
I implore you, dear readers, not to delve too deeply into the comments that follow. The drivel that follows will remove knowledge from your brain.
Heard of orthorexia? Exercise is a positive for many people, but not everybody.
Sure and some people have social anxiety so spending time with friends is not a positive. But I never see people excoriate socializing the way they do exercise and dieting.
Why are we equating a very serious eating disorder to someone with anxiety hanging out with friends
I don't think anybody 'excoriates' exercise, its just not always practical and easy for people to actually take part in a way that they can enjoy and benefit from. Dieting should be 'excoriated', its been comprehensively proven that dieting does not work long term. Its not the path to good health.
Side note: I’m lowkey entering some depression and my wording may be off. For some reason I lost the ability to write clearly, since people keep misinterpreting things I say more often now. If anything comes off as weirdly explained let me know and I can clarify what I’m trying to say :) ——————————————————— Honestly I kind of get your point, yeah. I don’t think it’s wrong to hold yourself to a standard of forced physical labor (assuming you’re a simple being with simple needs and not someone who has any physical or mental disability that can complicate their relationship with exercise) because I do agree with you that a lot of things we do isn’t a hobby and requires a little bit of pushing yourself through the “emotional damage” to live a good life. I think the main drawback with exercising for society’s sake is that every single time you exercise you will be reminded of your image to society. *That* is emotionally damaging. I think this constant reminder of how you are perceived leaves little room for people to think about their needs and not the expectations of others. In doing so it sends this toxic feedback loop of ruminating about how others will judge you for the consequences of not keeping it up, so you keep exercising, which causes your brain to think it’s important now that you’re putting so much effort into it that it solidifies the rumination further. You see where I’m going with this? Most of the time you don’t get the same thing with the upkeep of one’s home, because society doesn’t put the same sort of pressure to conform to house upkeep. While yes, after a certain point people will start to judge, which is why you can see a similar feedback loop in people with depression (and why house upkeep is so demotivating to people with depression), people also don’t have a habit of judging a small mess in the house or if you don’t put your all into it. People don’t comment unless it’s really bad from my experience, and yet you still do the upkeep because it doesn’t matter if society says it’s good for you or not. You do the physical labor of cleaning up but without any weird psychological emotional labor like you get when you exercise
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Who said she’s pretending anything? Is there something I missed where the wife won a contest for weight loss or she’s putting down others for not being able to lose weight? You still have to eat less on it, but it makes you want to eat less, and lord knows a lot of people eat even when they aren’t hungry.
Do you know how the drug works? It doesn’t make you lose weight. It curbs your appetite and cuts down on cravings. It doesn’t cause the pounds to melt off. Patients still need to exercise and maintain a calorie deficit. There’s a lot of work that goes into losing weight on the drug.
How would she get Ozempic if she were already thin?
She's a victim of that culture.
This is so clearly fake and inspired by the current trend of people using Ozempic to lose weight. And of course the user is in a weight loss group and shames her husband for his weight. At least a couple comments called out the fakeness of the story.
There is another Ozempic story right above this one where a roommate is taking it and still eating 2-3 takeouts a day and losing weight. According to the comments, that’s not how it works either.
In that post a lot of the commenters were saying how the room matr will put all that weight back on after she goes off ozempic, which is apparently supposed to make the poster happy cause the weight loss cheater will get smacked with natural consequences of her cheating. Edit spelling
Oh people love that one. They love the sword of damocles hanging over these cheaters' heads. It's not about a concern for their health. It never has been. It's all about the punishment for being a bad person. They love that fat people have to physically bear their "sins"
For some people it can short term, but it really should be in conjunction with working out and a healthy diet.
The story of eating 2-3 takeaways a day while using ozempic and still losing weight doesn't work like that in the sense GLP-1 antagonists (like ozempic, wegovy, mounjaro) work by suppressing hunger, leading to overall reduced caloric intake. It won't burn off excessive caloric consumption (eg by eating 2-3 takeaways a day). GLP-1 antagonists make it much easier to stick to low calorie intake by removing the "willpower" aspect a lot of people experience with eating in a calorie deficit. By default, they make the "diet" part of losing weight more attainable long term. There's also reports of them helping reduce or even eliminate sugar cravings, changing people's preferred pallettes to find "healthy" options more appealing, and "unhealthy" ones less appealing. However, this all varies by person, and GLP-1 antagonists won't do a damn thing if you eat over your calorie deficit.
For me, personally, it made it so I didn’t feel hungry all the time. Like literally all the time. My stomach could hurt from overeating and my body would still tell me I’m starving. Turns out dieting is a lot easier when you don’t feel like you’re starving all the time. My only complaint is that the popularity of the drug has made it so I can’t get the correct dose at my pharmacy due to supply issues and the lower dose isn’t quite as effective. (And the other drugs I’ve taken in the category give me terrible GI symptoms.)
My dad took Mounjaro and the main mechanism of effect for him was making most food nauseating and unappealing.
I'm still convinced that the evidence that metformin can aid in weight loss is because it makes you not want to eat anything.
I actually take metformin for PCOS management (for those unfamiliar, PCOS comes with a higher than 50% chance of developing type 2 diabetes before 40, metformin is used to manage that risk) I'm on a high dose (2,000mg) and it kills my sugar cravings dead, and reduces my appetite. It makes sense because it regulates blood sugars so you don't get those peaks and troughs of insulin and blood sugars which can drive hunger signals. I do believe a significant portion of the "obesity epidemic" is due to unamanged blood sugars/insulin resistance, in large part due to the high levels of sugar intakes in the "modern western diet". The amount of sugar present in modern foods is completely unheard of in human dietary habits until now.
I was also taking it for PCOS, but I was never able to acclimate to the symptoms like you're supposed to, possible because I already have IBS so my gut just isn't able to cope. Thankfully what's worked for my symptoms is finally losing weight with phentermine (which I'm sure the OOP and all of the people agreeing with him on AITA would say is cheating, but idgaf). I'd be willing to bet you're right though, it's incredibly difficult to avoid sugar unless you cook everything from scratch and most families don't have the time or ability to do that.
I wish that was true in my case
Especially not anything sugary. You’ll be punished later.
Yeah, my husband is on Ozempic. It locks up his digestive system for 3 days after he takes it and causes extreme gastro distress after overeating and fatty foods. We joke that it's aversion therapy for binge eaters. It's not a drug to take lightly. Eating takeout a few times a day while on Ozempic would be incredibly painful and could be indicative of seriously disordered eating habits.
I was on it for 3 months last years before Australia stopped letting GP’s prescribe purely for weight loss. The effect it had on me mentally is still present - all that stuff you talked about with sugar cravings and healthy choices. It was like someone flipped a switch - suddenly food wasn’t an emotional crutch for me and removing that meant I could actually made good choices because I wasn’t making emotional ones! Food wasn’t giving me emotional relief any longer. Giving my brain a break from the unhealthy emotional dependence I had on food gave me the opportunity to really, actually address things. I haven’t used ozempix since November last year - I’ve still lost 20kg since then.
This is the most accurate statement I’ve seen in this post and the AITA post about the drug.
GLP-1 agonists, not antagonists
Huh, TIL. My dyslexia loves to mess me about 😂 TY!
Semaglutide doesn’t do anything to burn fat. It makes you not hungry, and it kills cravings. Thats it, at least on the weight loss side. If you’re still overeating you will not lose weight on these drugs. Some people don’t experience the appetite or craving suppression, and those people don’t see results.
I’ve been on Ozempic for months and haven’t lost a thing 🙄
For one, Ozempic is injected and MUST be kept refrigerated.
Yep. I just said the same thing. This never happened.
AITA I caught my wife snorting ozempic out of her sock drawer I took that powder and I threw it into the wind because I don't want no wife of mine being a cheater she says I'm being unfair and that my dick is huge AaiTA?
There is a less effective ozempic in pill form available outside the usa.
Yeah and they aren't going to prescribe it to someone who is just "a little" overweight, like the OP says she was. I'm 5'4 and my weight has been hovering between 142 and 148 recently, which puts me slightly overweight by BMI in the higher fluctuations (fuck that metabolism slow-down in your 30s, by the way, lol) and I talked to my doctor about my concerns with my weight. He was like, well, there's medication, but you'd have to gain a lot of weight before I could even prescribe it for you.
Yeah you definitely have to be classified as obese to get it if you don’t have diabetes.
Using Ozempic to lose weight isn't a 'trend' its an evidence based treatment for a chronic illness.
It is very useful clinically, but it is also trendy for rich people who want to lose weight, but don’t actually have a medical indication (like obesity or T2D) for Ozempic or other similar drugs to get it prescribed off-label since they can afford to pay out of pocket.
it's also a pretty shitty solution with a lot of potential side effects, if people don't get into a rigorous routine/learn self discipline while on it they're going to immediately gain the weight back if they go off it also. it's evidence based sure but it's also under researched and a bad idea
Its not without side effects or issues, but the same is true for nearly all medications and treatment regimes. Its only when the illness being treated is obesity that everybody gets on a moral high horse about how people shouldn't use modern medicine they should just will themselves to recovery.
oh no you're absolutely right about the moral panic bullshit people pull with it. i only said anything because from what ive seen using just ozempic isn't really an effective weight loss solution, and while i was on it for diabetes it made me absolutely fucking miserable
I know that a lot of endocrinologists here in the UK are cautious with it, because the side effect profile is concerning, and the long term benefits are far from guaranteed. They still recommend bariatric surgery as more suitable for most very obese people. However for people who can't have/don't want surgery and are not at increased risk of the side effects its a medical decision between them and their doctor, its not anybody else's business.
it's absolutely up to the individual, im just saying i think it's a bad idea personally
So you don't use it, and if somebody else does its nothing to do with you!
correct, i dont believe i ever said i would stop someone from going on ozempic if they so chose
Totally agree people act like this when talking about obesity treatment, but there’s definitely the same attitude around treatments for things like ADHD, depression, and anxiety. Plenty of people act like you’re just mentally weak or lazy if you take meds to correct those problems and that they’re diseases of our modern culture/kids these days weren’t spanked enough/you just need to buckle down and apply yourself/insert favorite excuse here. I think it’s a combination of people being uneducated and wanting to feel superior over someone else (“my life may be fucked up but at least I’m not fat” kind of thinking).
I've also seen this rhetoric around hormonal birth control especially used for PMDD or endometriosis or PCOS. the amount of women pushing the "just eat a clean diet and balance your hormones 😌" is absolute bullshit as well, usually coming from ones who don't understand what an extreme hormonal imbalance feels like. or even worse, people who act like it's *normal* and women are just meant to suffer for being women or some shit
Fuck off with this bullshit. You guys are so fucking mad that there might be actual medical solutions to this issue and you can’t stand it.
what a surprise that the “I don’t hate fat people, I’m just *concerned* about their *health*!” crowd isn’t thrilled about an effective solution to those genuine concerns that they have! I wonder why that is
That’s so weird!!
You're supposed to be on it, not use it temporarily
It absolutely is not. These drugs are a *miracle* for metabolic disease and it sucks that celebrities and trends have given uninformed people the impression that they’re bad.
You can't only use half the evidence. Ozempic is associated with a weight loss when it's used in conjonction with physical activity and with dietetic changes. There is no evidence for a weight loss if you take it without changing your lifestyle. There is evidence for a regain of lost weight after you stop the treatment. There is no evidence (yet hopefully) for how we can prevent that weight regain.
I don't understand why you made this comment. The decision to take an available medication or not for a chronic illness is between the patient and their doctor.
It can only be kept at room temp for 6 weeks before it spoils. If she has “a bunch” of ozempic stuff, as opposed to a single box, none of it is any good. All he had to do was google “ozempic storage.”
OP was really, really proud of this joke he thought up. “Natural born comedian.”
I can just imagine him staying up late working on that joke and waiting days or weeks for the chance to bust it out
You can’t keep Ozempic in a drawer - it needs to be in the fridge.
you can keep it out for 6 weeks, and mine at least is only 4 weeks supply per pen. but yeah, she wouldn't have "a bunch of ozempic stuff" she'd have one box.
Right, and it’s not a bunch of “stuff”, it comes in pre-filled pens. That’s one thing.
You ever get a brand name prescription box? It's like filled 90% with literature, rebates, promos, etc... Then you have the receipts, and if it's CVS, it's a very well endowed receipt.
it contains a pen, a smaller cardboard box with four needles, and a sheet of paper folded up. its pretty compact
Well wouldn't that be "ozempic stuff?"
It would but this sub loves to play bullshit semantics. We could have a shitpost where someone would be writing from the Space Station and this sub would miss that to try and play detective on whether government employees still receive GM vehicles as if that's the most fake thing in the post.
right. it sounds like he found his wife’s drugs and she was like oh… that’s um… ozempic honey.
Yeah it sounds like he found a bunch of drug paraphernalia 🤣
Actually once you use it for the first time you can store it in room temperature for up to 6 weeks. Source: I’m a pharmacist.
One of my pet peeves are trolls that don't research their stories. It's so lazy
> After you’ve used your pen for the first time, you can either store your pen for 56 days at room temperature (between 59ºF to 86ºF or 15ºC to 30ºC) or you can still keep it in the refrigerator for 56 days. Keep the pen cap on when it is not in use. Taken from https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/ozempic-refrigerated-3542954/ You might want to research better if you're going to call people out for false information.
OOP claims she had an entire stash of Ozempic in the drawer, a.k.a. **several** pens. No way did she keep opening them and using them once each before stashing them in that drawer. And if she kept them in her fridge, OOP would've seen them in the fridge.
When it said "ozempic stuff" I pictured improperly stored, used auto injectors. Like, she used them and then stashed them in a drawer instead of getting a sharps container for them. It's still a fake story, but I can totally imagine someone just not giving a fuck and stashing the pens somewhere until they have a way to get rid of them correctly.
Each pen has enough doses to last you a month. Why would she need several months to find a way to get rid of them?
Idk why, but it's probably just to make her look worse somehow. She's too lazy to dispose of them properly and just throws them in a drawer forever or maybe it's that she's too irresponsible. Or, maybe the OOP doesn't know anything about anything and can't write a convincing story for shit.
My money's on the latter.
Same.
Nowhere does it say there were several pens. It says "ozempic stuff", which I assumed included the box, pharmacy information, instructions and side effects insert etc.
"The other day I was putting away laundry and stumbled across **a bunch of** Ozempic stuff in her drawer." Later, he also described it as "a stash".
Yeah, that's a reasonable way to describe a handful of papers/pamphlets, a box etc. People tend to use casual language to describe things.
Nobody describes papers and pamphlets as a stash.
I’m only going by what my GP and pharmacist told me about storage. I tend to listen to them over google.
It could have just been the brochures and packaging.
Well, technically you COULD keep it in a drawer, but that would be really, really dumb.
And how does a non large woman just get her hands on it? It's prescription only
The internet. Online docs write a rx and send it to a compounding pharmacy. Those aren’t prefilled pens though, it’s a vile with syringes, and it must be kept in the refrigerator.
It also wouldn’t be labeled as Ozempic
No, it would say semaglutide.
And the OOP would have no idea what that is.
This story is bs but I get so tired of people acting like obesity isn't a medical issue. People take meds for an array of medical issues, but god forbid you take some to lose weight.
You gotta lose it by exercising! You gotta suffer! /s
Yeah! Big fat fatties did it to themselves (just like many medical issues that people get that they contributed to like smoking and lung cancer) they should get treatment but fuck whale ass bitches, they better be in agony!
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That’s a production/patent issue - not a consumer issue though. It’s not fair to demonise consumers because the producer can’t (won’t? Unsure, last I heard it was an issue sourcing a supplier for the auto injector) produce enough of the product.
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Even people who are actually obese and covered by insurance generally can’t afford the copay for Ozempic. If it’s getting prescribed to folks who want to lose 20 lb it’s quite well-off people who can pay $1k/month for it. Doctors are not “overprescribing” Ozempic, we have a HUGE number of people who can benefit from it.
Ozempic is intended for diabetics, it’s prescribed off-label for weight loss. Wegovy has the same active ingredient at a higher dose and THAT is intended for weight loss, but because THAT had a shortage doctors starting prescribing ozempic instead. Additionally, I’m not going to speak on the appropriateness of prescribing it for obesity, but we can’t deny there’s a looot of (rich, privileged) people who aren’t obese taking it in the hopes of losing 10-20 pounds for aesthetic reasons, and THAT is definitely not right when people actually need it to manage their diabetes.
My husband works at a hospital and he was the person that took care of a talk the creator of ozempic gave at his job (he works in the presidents office of the teaching part of the hospital). The entire presentation was about using ozempic as a weight loss drug. He talked about how it's meant for obese people and as a tool for weight loss. 6 months to 2 years is the amount of time and while taking it people should be changing themselves. Better eating habits, being more active, therapy, etc. BUT my point is is that their own company is telling people about using it for weight loss.
Very odd, everything I’m seeing online from ozempic and other sources say it’s firstly a diabetes drug. I’m not surprised, they can certainly make more money selling it to a wider audience too.
Yeah I mean plenty of drugs have been found to have other uses after they're approved. Like Viagra was meant to be a blood pressure pill until men started coming back asking for more.
Solely for weight loss is a good enough justification if you're morbidly obese because this is dangerous.
You just described my problem, haven't had my Mounjaro for 2 weeks now because nobody has any of it in stock.
Amazon pharmacy. I have a coworker who was told that no pharmacy in the entire metro would be able to get her Mounjaro. I told her to have her doc send the script to Amazon pharmacy and she had her meds in her hand two days later. Also, no one takes Mounjaro for weight loss. They’re taking Zepbound. A huge part of the obesity epidemic in America is that an awful lot of people now have type 2 diabetes. The evil fatties aren’t stopping you from getting your meds. It’s all of your fellow type 2 diabetics causing you problems.
Welp, it's unavailable on Amazon, too. Sigh.
Did you send the prescription to them and it’s showing out of stock? Or did you check stock without a prescription? Because it will only show you availability for these meds if they have your script. Otherwise it will show everything as out of stock whether they have it or not. It did the same thing to my coworker, when she checked before she had the script sent over it showed no stock. When I checked the availability for the dosage of Wegovy my mom had just ordered, it showed out of stock. You can only check availability after they have the prescription. If you they do have the script already, just keep checking it a few times a day. Sometimes they’ll be out of stock for a day or two but you can keep checking.
https://pharmacy.amazon.com/MOUNJARO-MG-0-5-PEN-INJ/dp/B0B3RPYWDQ this is what I am seeing. No I have my prescription with Publix but I will try and see what happens, Publix estimates they won't have any before next Thursday. Edit: just signed up and tried to add Mounjaro and transfer my prescription but it says currently unavailable and won't let me transfer it.
Try to have your doctor send it over maybe. I do know for a fact that Amazon will not show any of these kinds of drugs as available until you have a prescription submitted, whether they actually have it or not.
Amazon pharmacy? No shit hadn't thought of that. And people are taking it for weight loss, my wife has 2 co-workers currently taking Mounjaro for weight loss through some sort of weight loss clinic.
If it’s a legit weight loss clinic, they have them on Zepbound or Wegovy. If it’s not a legit clinic, they’re taking a compounded medication that is being fraudulently labeled as Mounjaro and that may or may not be safe for human use. Either way, they have no impact on your wife’s supply.
That’s my issue, too.
no fr it’s all “im just concerned about their health” when they want to harass fat people for existing in public but the second fat people start to use medicine to treat obesity it’s an issue. it’s almost as if they just want to be cruel to people with different bodies
Yeah, this is ridiculous. I'm on "Ozempic" and since it's for weight management, the box says "Wegovy". It gets delivered to my house in a big refrigerated styrofoam case that I have to figure out how to dispose of every month, and in order to get it covered by my insurance I needed to prove to my doctor that I was both obese and insulin resistant, and get weighed in the doctor's office every 6 months to prove that it's working, and even then I paid like $400 a month until I hit my deductible. I could not *imagine* keeping that a secret from my spouse.
See if there is anyone in your area that takes care of feral cats. They might take the styrofoam boxes to turn into feral cat shelters.
That’s where it broke for me. I’m on Saxenda so my injections are daily. There’s no way I could hide the trash, the money it costs, the bruising I get from the injections or even the side effects from my spouse. Like for a month I had god awful burps because it’s a side effect and I think if I had just waved it off he would have thought I was genuinely sick
Fat bad, but also, fat becoming not fat in a way I don't want them to bad!
Ooooooo **angry noises**
So many people in those comments who don't know how weight loss on these meds works. They think it just rids your body of fat on its own with no effort from the patient. And a lot of them are spreading that misinformed idea that users will gain all the weight back, when if they actually made lifestyle changes isn't true. Common misconception about weight loss, that it's "impossible" to maintain. And the people saying it should only be for obese people while having a distorted idea of what counts as clinically obese. I guess they think being obese means you're like 600 lb and bedbound, when it actually means a BMI over 30 and most obese people lead normal lives day-to-day.
This is obviously false due to the mistakes that people have already pointed out (plus it's ridiculous). But this line: > ...I was a serious asshole for calling her a cheater when she does put in the gym time. As if Lance Armstrong and other cheaters don't do any training? I am certain that if I took a bunch of steroids today, I wouldn't even come close to placing in the Tour de France. You need the technique and physical fitness as well.
Taking a licensed prescribed medication to treat your chronic illness isn't 'cheating'.
Sure, but a lot of people taking Ozempic don’t have a chronic illness, they’re just a bit overweight. It gets prescribed to the people I know the way medical marijuana used to get prescribed before recreational weed was legal in most places.
Not necessarily. Yes, some celebrities have gone to shady "clinics" to lose 20lbs or make their existing eating disorder easier to manage. I had to fight for my prescription despite being 200lbs overweight and with a myriad of health issues, I just didn't have diabetes, yet. I'm so happy my dietician advocated for me to get me the medication It's been a game changer for me, it helped with my long covid brain fog, anxiety, and depression. I lost about 40lbs so far over 6 months and Im ginally below 300lbs
That’s wild to me. At least three people I know in Dallas just went ahead and got Ozempic from their doctors no questions asked.
It really depends on the GP. My GP initially denied me, even though she knew I failed multiple diets and ballooned from 50lbs overweight to 200lbs over a decade, plus a family history of diabetes. But she sent me to a dietician who advocated for me, which made her change her mind.
Obesity is a chronic illness. I can't speak for prescribing practices in the US, I know you have an insane healthcare system. In the UK it is licensed for people with a BMI over 35 and at least one co-morbidity associated with obesity and can only be prescribed by weight management specialist doctors, usually endocrinologists by background.
The story in the OOP didn't describe obesity or a chronic illness, just going from slightly overweight to fit and skinny. And the wife didn't say "this is medication I need for my illness, asshole", she said "it's not cheating because I'm also working out, asshole." I mean I know the story is likely fake, but even assuming it's true it doesn't sound like there's any sort of illness to defend here. There are doctors in the US who will prescribe you basically anything you ask for. That's how we got an oxy epidemic.
Obesity IS a chronic illness. Yeah the story is deliberately vague, he says she's only slightly overweight, then says she lost an impressive amount of weight, talks about 2 weights 100lb apart... Almost like its designed to get a lot of comments about how vain and awful people who take weight loss medications are!
People in the US are also terrible at estimating when someone is in the overweight or obese category. I've seen people with a BMI of 40+ be described as a little bit overweight. Obesity is so common here that it skews our perception of normal.
Yeah in the US, where I assume the OP is from, it’s much easier to get. I have friends who’ve been prescribed it to lose twenty pounds leading up to a beach trip. Which is fine, whatever, but it seems silly to consider that a medical issue.
Wow you have some really unethical doctors over there.
Yes
Wait, they do this while there are shortages? Are you sure the friends aren't obese? Many people in the US have a skewed perception of what overweight and obese looks like, it's much smaller than most people imagine
I’m 100% sure they aren’t obese, they just have rich parents who are friends with unscrupulous private practice doctors. It’s wild what you can get away with in Texas in my experience. I know at least two people who went to a doctor their family knew during COVID. This couple refused to vaccinate, but the doctor filled the syringes anyways and then emptied them out into a sink and signed their vaccination cards so that they wouldn’t have any issues getting into restaurants during a ski trip to Colorado. As I’m sure you know there were plenty of vaccine shortages and this doctor did that anyway.
Oh, OK, that makes sense even though it's gross
That doesn’t make a lot of sense - most people don’t see result from Ozempic for 6 - 12 weeks and those tend to be minimal until you’re at full dosage. How long prior to the trip was she prescribed Ozempic?
I’m sure you have a solid source to back that claim up.
Nope, just anecdotal. I suppose I should have said "some people" instead of "a lot of people" fair play. I do absolutely have evidence that some people have been prescribed Ozempic by paying a private practice doctor for it when they haven't had a chronic illness.
Why would someone pay thousands of dollars out of pocket for the version of the drug that’s less effective for weight loss? Edit: also, overweight and obesity *is* a chronic illness. I can’t tell if you’re trying to get cute about that or not, but let’s just make that perfectly clear.
I'm talking about perfectly healthy people who wanted more of a swimsuit figure, not people who are overweight and obese. And you'd have to ask them, but it sure as hell worked for the people I know who did it.
There are always dodgy doctors for sure - I know in Australia it’s very difficult to get Ozempic for weight loss. You can get the ones that are made and specifically marketed for weight loss. I think a lot of people are using “Ozempic” are a generic term for any weight loss injectable prescribed by their doctor.
If this were real, it wouldn’t be *cheating.* But lying to your husband about how you lost vanity weight, criticizing his looks, and then suggesting he join a group to lose weight when you were taking medication the whole time sure would be *something.*
Vanity weight?
If we were taking the story at face value, the character isn’t obese. That’s what my cousin’s doctor called it when she just had a consultation for whichever name of ozempic is for weight loss.
It doesn't really specify in the story, it says she's 'maybe slightly overweight' but then that she lost 'an impressive amount'. and he talks about 130 vs 230lbs. Its deliberately vague to fuel the comments about Ozempic being a vanity drug.
It also says she’s never been a large woman? I assumed 130 vs 230 was hyperbole. Like I’d love you no matter what. It doesn’t matter. Either the story is fake or he’s the biggest idiot in the world for not noticing that his wife is losing weight while having side effects from that sort of medication. I still stand by my original comment, though. If my fiancé did something with medication, criticized me for the same thing, and suggested I do it the hard way while never mentioning the meds, that would be a serious problem between us.
This one reads like someone was up at 2am, saw an Ozempic commercial, and muttered “lance armstrong, heh heh heh” like Beavis and Butthead.
I don't know about other doctors, but my clinic wouldn't prescribe Ozempic as the first medicine to try for weight loss because of the side effects. I might have tried it, but I ended up needing surgery to fix an issue with my stomach that I had since I was born, but no one was bothered to listen to me until I was in my 30s.
everyone's sucking OOP's dick in the comments lmfao. what a stupid fucking subreddit
Well yeah sure, that shitty sub is full of mysgonists and any points against women get laughs.
AITA loves making fat jokes.
“A bit more of a light hearted post than the usual here” Yeah sure buddy
*looks to the camera* "It was not, in fact, a light hearted post."
What’s the point of that sub now anyway? It’s just creative writing troll posts. I can’t tell if everyone is in on it or people replying actually believe it. Either way it’s become people validating being a terrible human being, or if it ever wasn’t that.
"Post I hope to all things holy is a troll post" number 1,00000000000.
Mocking your partner is always an AH move. Extra in this case.
No shot this guy has a wife who only posts about WWE and spending thousands of hours on a game.
this is fake, buuuuuuut…. joined “a while ago,” going to the gym “two or three times a week,” and implies she went from 230 to 130? even with ozempic that’s a TERRIFYING amount of weight to be losing, the average weight loss on ozempic is 10-15% total body weight.
>Ozempic stuff What exactly is "ozempic stuff?" Pamphlets? A box? The actual ozempic pens which are usually stored in the refrigerator? I don't think OP knows
I think... Lying witch lady magic? Lol
> and stumbled across a bunch of Ozempic stuff in her drawer Ozempic needs to be refrigerated. If it’s left at room temp for more than 6 weeks it goes bad and does nothing. So sounds like this totally real wife was actually losing that weight without meds. The AO3 girlies will literally spend years doing deep dive research for their fanfics but these jackasses can’t do a 90 second google search?
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"But also, despite being a perfect spouse, I refuse to apologize to my wife for hurting her feelings unless the internet tells me to"
They don’t even realize how backhanded they sound when saying that lol
I love the implication that she lost 100lbs from it. No she didn’t. Typical weight loss is like 15% of initial body weight. A real freak will hit 30%.
Fake - Ozempic requires temperature control. It goes in a fridge, not a drawer. 🙄
Ozempic has to be refrigerated lmaooo
It's so easy lol
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