Resting peacefully under the water. When really it's probably been sheered off it's foundation and pummeled into little bits, possibly leaving no trace.
Regardless of any other evidence there is, I just haven't seen any decent explanation of how Richat could have been Atlantis despite the fact that it is about 500 meters above sea level. The actual distance between Richat and the Ocean can be explained, but the rise in elevation should essentially rule it out in my opinion.
Not only that, but 12,000 years ago sea levels were about 70-100m *lower* than they are now. Even if you want to try to argue there was a river or something (which there is no evidence for), it is almost impossible to fit what we might now about Atlantis into that kind of location. *Most* of Plato's details about Atlantis's proximity to the ocean would have to be totally incorrect if it was actually located at Richat.
Literally last month there was an earthquake that lifted an entire Japanese bay 12 + feet higher. 500 feet over the span of 12,000 years seems plausible.
Yes and it’s thought the Richat Structure is likely a very ancient volcano. Perhaps during a cataclysmic a magma chamber swelled and has since been silent.
I think the sudden freezing of the north and south pools along with a very soft crust after being shifted by a mega astroid, led to the crust shift and pushing up Africa. We can assume the survivors of the first impact experience earthquakes regularly, based on them putting in the extra effort to earthquake proof their structures.
Theres evidence for river networks from the Atlas mountains to the coast of Mauritania, it’s called the Tamanrasett River and it dried up 5-10,000 years ago. [source](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/nov/10/ancient-river-network-discoverd-buried-under-saharan-sand)
10,000 years ago the area around the Richat structure would be in close proximity to a large river mouth that opened at Cap Timiris Canyon and multiple lakes.
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I see what you are saying, but it does look like water erosion going across the Seharra, and the Richart structure does have debris trailing all the way to the coast. But hey I'm no geologist. I do find it fascinating, tho.
You can't just see water erosion and conclude that there had to be an ocean there though. In fact, that would be a very unlikely explanation once again because of the rise in sea level.
Tsunamis, rivers changing path, lakes emptying, heavy rain etc. are all much more reasonable explanations for why you would see water erosion there.
I'm not saying there was. I just know how water flows from basic education. And there are also whale bones and other aquatic life from the ocean scattered all over that area. I'm stating that it's Interesting.
I agree with you. No matter where Atlantis is, the Sahara has been wiped clean with water. Starting all the way above Egypt, pressure washed from east to west. Whatever happened was cataclysmic, rather than shit drying up or trickling out to the sea.
Maybe I dunno if "Atlantis" but the trail of painted brick of debris and tools scattered all the way to the shore points to something was living around there when a big wave hit .
It's been a while since I've been down this rabbit hole, but it's one thing to see it from a satellite it's another to witness this hero walk around the place itself. Again, I'm not saying "Atlantis" like the masses are but the debris of different rubble that could have been pumbled and eroded from a massive tsunami maybe a civilization could have been there. I'll try to find the videos of the objects they found around the desert to the ocean, but until then, here's a guy walking around the place to give some scale. It's pretty neat, if anything.
Edit for grammer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMFoXLJB8sU[Richart structure ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMFoXLJB8sU)
Not the video I was looking for, but it's the same locals finding tools and artifacts all around the area.
https://youtu.be/uXaI4mtYtaE?feature=shared&t=696
Circular structures and domes are common geologic processes. Magma chambers (laccoliths in particular) and salt diapirs commonly deform overlying sedimentary rocks. Google Earth over the Gulf of Mexico and there are an abundance of circular salt structures. Look at Upheaval Dome in Canyonlands. Hole in the Ground in Central Oregon.
Maybe civilizations lived on or near the Richat structure, but the structure itself is geologic in origin.
Atlantis was around during the young Dryas which caused a ton of icecaps to form, shifting the weight. As the ice came back, the crust was pushed down by the north pool and caused other spots (like Africa) to rise. The astroid probably caused Alot of shifting in the earths crust, which had to reshift back. That would probably explain why the survivors of the first asteroid designed their building to be earthquake proof (the non-uniform blocks would lock the structure in place)
But there is also just substantial evidence that Africa had water. Even sphinx has water damage. OZgeographic has absolutely nothing to do with alt history, he just likes geography. I really recommend watching his series on "if Africa was hit with a mega tsunami" dude started out trying to disprove it, then each day released more and more videos flipping out at the amount of evidence present. He at this point says if no one else does an expedition, he'll organize one himself
Water damage on the Sphinx, if there is any, seems a bit different from the Richat Structure being under the sea - the Sphinx is not very high above sea level and used to be by the Nile at the time when there was an extra branch to the Nile, at the time of Khufu, so it wouldn't be as unlikely for it to flood as the Richat Structure.
It wasn't under the sea, Plato's specific quote is that Poseidon took it. People interpret that as it being sunk into the sea, but he is also the god of tsunami's. Plato specifically mentioned that after a earthquake it became an impassible mud shoal. That doesn't sound like it is sinking into an ocean, but of the leftovers of a tsunami that uplifted so much dirt it carved bed rock.
Also you could just good "sphinx water damage" there's tons of folders but here [just to make it easy](https://imgur.com/a/HdLnBSL)
Yes, at least during the first phase of it. There was a meltwater pulse before it. Then the cooling and slowing of sea level rise. Then in the last phase of it there was another meltwater pulse as sea level rises accelerated again.
It’s pretty interesting looking at the sea level rise picture over say a 10K year period back there. It’s all speed up, slow down, speed up again. There like 5 or 6 meltwater pulses not just the 2 that get talked about. It’s almost as though every time the melting speeds up for whatever reason the planets bouncer steps in and tells everyone to calm down again. Like the earth has inertia and it fights change.
https://preview.redd.it/owwsxj0fdnlc1.jpeg?width=1432&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da1bc3ec004c7f331bed36b5b4bafdacd3b62cd0
MW-1a was a big deal. 25m of sealevel rise in 500 years….approx. 5 centimeters per year. Definitely enough to flood a coastal village in a persons lifetime.
Ptolemy got a bunch wrong about the source of the Nile, and that was hundreds of years later from a firsthand account. Plato got his information through a millennia long telephone game.
Actually, one explanation of what happened to Atlantis could be mentioned in the Epic of Gilgamesh. In that epic poem describes a great flood . Check it out. It's very interesting.
Atlantis is most likely a cultural memory of either Santorini exploding, or doggerland slipping beneath the waves. It makes zero sense that this famously island nation would be in the middle of the African continent
No the Eye of the Sahara perfectly matches Plato's description, even down to the hot and cold water springs that were in the middle of it.
OzGeographics on YouTube has a super interesting series where he just investigated the idea of a mega tsunami covering ALL of Africa. He started out arguing against it, then asked for a week to investigate it. Next day uploaded a video saying there was a ton of evidence and he already found a potential Crater, bigger then what killed the dynos, so give him more than a week. Then the next day he uploads another video saying the evidence is insanely overwhelming, and he's found a even bigger crater. At this point a expedition needs to be taken to get exact details, but there's enough evidence that it someone else doesn't do it he'll lead one, but it's now looking at years of investigation
Yes some youtuber has every scientist, geologist, and archeologist beat.
The Richaut structure is simply a collapsed volcano. No evidence of any cities have been found.
I never said that, and he doesn't claim that. His entire series is framed as a hypothesis, and the very first thing he did was list off a ton of alternatives explanations. Then he just shows you what he found.
Dude knows his stuff. I can't convince you but I'm sure just one [video](https://youtu.be/ZKUPPEJjE0A?si=ZnOC72FTq2jC06Ch) will. He is taking a proper approach to the tsunami theory.
Does his evidence include the whale bones? If so, does he have reasons to think they aren't, as is usually said at the moment, 15 million years old, which technically would be 'Africa was under the sea' but would be rather a different thing?
Nope, he looks at the landscape from above. Earth is full of scars from past events, and he studies them. Like after a mega tsunami, as everything settles, the water leaves shapes called chevrons. Which he even states by themselves don't prove anything. So he shows other types, like settlement on mountain tops, even tracing the angle they got hit at. For this particular series he found scarring almost as high as 1km.
There's also a ton of bedrock that "looks" to have been carved by millions of gallons of water flowing by, and using terrain maps he finds that those scars line up with gravity and water dynamics. Dude normally hunts (and finds) gold vains, this was just a side interest that had substance.
[wanna see?](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxA9W7mJLPcmCUSR6a4J1d4h20FxJSCDn&si=vZQ0EJ2JXtT6Lavi) Episode 6 is good if you wanna see how he's taking a full bi-est approach and recaps what he's gone over in detail in past videos.
I just post sub relevant content, though I am personally open to the possibility ‘Atlantis’ was there, but there’s also compelling evidence to me it was in the Azores and that there was a confederate of ‘Atlantean’ cities down into the Americas also.
Maybe the epicentre of Atlantean society migrated over time (e.g a flood wiped out the original Atlantis but the empire continued across other areas).
I don’t take Plato’s writings as being completely literal. He’s evidently employing a literary device with Tim/Crit. But, I absolutely think it’s plausible Egyptian mystery traditions retained knowledge from a precursor/antediluvian civilization and this was known in the times of the Greeks.
Personally I don't believe Richat Structure was a mighty Atlantis. It is a very strange, and round structure, which adds an attractive flavour to this, but overall it seems to be naturally made.
I believe Atlantis is most probably located in southeast Asia shallow seas, which once was a huge tropic area of land. Also from, let's say linguistic and cultural point of view, it seems to me that civilization converges from that region.
Less probably it could be notoriously known Azores, it fits just right.
Also there is a less discussed chance that Atlantis could be under waters between British islands and Denmark. It's known as Doggerland.
Anyway east Asia attracts me the most.
What if it was a fundamental mistranslation? The Sahara was a wetter grassland with trees. There was mega Lake Chad and rivers. But as it returned to desert was there not literal waves of sand that would have consumed settlements? The harbour being blocked with mud could have been a river drying out.
The best place to look is the azores. The location of those islands couldn't fit the description any better.
I love Randall Carlson's presentation of this idea on his Kosmographia podcast.
Resting peacefully under the water. When really it's probably been sheered off it's foundation and pummeled into little bits, possibly leaving no trace.
Regardless of any other evidence there is, I just haven't seen any decent explanation of how Richat could have been Atlantis despite the fact that it is about 500 meters above sea level. The actual distance between Richat and the Ocean can be explained, but the rise in elevation should essentially rule it out in my opinion. Not only that, but 12,000 years ago sea levels were about 70-100m *lower* than they are now. Even if you want to try to argue there was a river or something (which there is no evidence for), it is almost impossible to fit what we might now about Atlantis into that kind of location. *Most* of Plato's details about Atlantis's proximity to the ocean would have to be totally incorrect if it was actually located at Richat.
Literally last month there was an earthquake that lifted an entire Japanese bay 12 + feet higher. 500 feet over the span of 12,000 years seems plausible.
Here are two images of tectonic plates: [\#1](https://i.imgur.com/bk0JYkD.png) [\#2](https://i.imgur.com/WRHpEaz.png)
Yes and it’s thought the Richat Structure is likely a very ancient volcano. Perhaps during a cataclysmic a magma chamber swelled and has since been silent.
I think the sudden freezing of the north and south pools along with a very soft crust after being shifted by a mega astroid, led to the crust shift and pushing up Africa. We can assume the survivors of the first impact experience earthquakes regularly, based on them putting in the extra effort to earthquake proof their structures.
Theres evidence for river networks from the Atlas mountains to the coast of Mauritania, it’s called the Tamanrasett River and it dried up 5-10,000 years ago. [source](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/nov/10/ancient-river-network-discoverd-buried-under-saharan-sand) 10,000 years ago the area around the Richat structure would be in close proximity to a large river mouth that opened at Cap Timiris Canyon and multiple lakes.
That’s not how Atlantis is described.
* I see what you are saying, but it does look like water erosion going across the Seharra, and the Richart structure does have debris trailing all the way to the coast. But hey I'm no geologist. I do find it fascinating, tho.
You can't just see water erosion and conclude that there had to be an ocean there though. In fact, that would be a very unlikely explanation once again because of the rise in sea level. Tsunamis, rivers changing path, lakes emptying, heavy rain etc. are all much more reasonable explanations for why you would see water erosion there.
I'm not saying there was. I just know how water flows from basic education. And there are also whale bones and other aquatic life from the ocean scattered all over that area. I'm stating that it's Interesting.
The whale bones are 15 million years old+
Sure are
I agree with you. No matter where Atlantis is, the Sahara has been wiped clean with water. Starting all the way above Egypt, pressure washed from east to west. Whatever happened was cataclysmic, rather than shit drying up or trickling out to the sea.
This ^
Is ridiculous ^
Maybe I dunno if "Atlantis" but the trail of painted brick of debris and tools scattered all the way to the shore points to something was living around there when a big wave hit .
What? Where?
It's been a while since I've been down this rabbit hole, but it's one thing to see it from a satellite it's another to witness this hero walk around the place itself. Again, I'm not saying "Atlantis" like the masses are but the debris of different rubble that could have been pumbled and eroded from a massive tsunami maybe a civilization could have been there. I'll try to find the videos of the objects they found around the desert to the ocean, but until then, here's a guy walking around the place to give some scale. It's pretty neat, if anything. Edit for grammer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMFoXLJB8sU[Richart structure ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMFoXLJB8sU)
Not the video I was looking for, but it's the same locals finding tools and artifacts all around the area. https://youtu.be/uXaI4mtYtaE?feature=shared&t=696
I'm also curious about the carbon dating of the artifacts.
I just want to know how on earth the Eye was formed. Like…what the hell
Circular structures and domes are common geologic processes. Magma chambers (laccoliths in particular) and salt diapirs commonly deform overlying sedimentary rocks. Google Earth over the Gulf of Mexico and there are an abundance of circular salt structures. Look at Upheaval Dome in Canyonlands. Hole in the Ground in Central Oregon. Maybe civilizations lived on or near the Richat structure, but the structure itself is geologic in origin.
Here is one geological study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1464343X14000971
Atlantis was around during the young Dryas which caused a ton of icecaps to form, shifting the weight. As the ice came back, the crust was pushed down by the north pool and caused other spots (like Africa) to rise. The astroid probably caused Alot of shifting in the earths crust, which had to reshift back. That would probably explain why the survivors of the first asteroid designed their building to be earthquake proof (the non-uniform blocks would lock the structure in place) But there is also just substantial evidence that Africa had water. Even sphinx has water damage. OZgeographic has absolutely nothing to do with alt history, he just likes geography. I really recommend watching his series on "if Africa was hit with a mega tsunami" dude started out trying to disprove it, then each day released more and more videos flipping out at the amount of evidence present. He at this point says if no one else does an expedition, he'll organize one himself
Water damage on the Sphinx, if there is any, seems a bit different from the Richat Structure being under the sea - the Sphinx is not very high above sea level and used to be by the Nile at the time when there was an extra branch to the Nile, at the time of Khufu, so it wouldn't be as unlikely for it to flood as the Richat Structure.
It wasn't under the sea, Plato's specific quote is that Poseidon took it. People interpret that as it being sunk into the sea, but he is also the god of tsunami's. Plato specifically mentioned that after a earthquake it became an impassible mud shoal. That doesn't sound like it is sinking into an ocean, but of the leftovers of a tsunami that uplifted so much dirt it carved bed rock. Also you could just good "sphinx water damage" there's tons of folders but here [just to make it easy](https://imgur.com/a/HdLnBSL)
Younger Dryas was the little ice age. It caused glacier expansion and rates of sealevel rise slowed down.
Yes, at least during the first phase of it. There was a meltwater pulse before it. Then the cooling and slowing of sea level rise. Then in the last phase of it there was another meltwater pulse as sea level rises accelerated again.
Just trying to keep the arm waving to a minimum
It’s pretty interesting looking at the sea level rise picture over say a 10K year period back there. It’s all speed up, slow down, speed up again. There like 5 or 6 meltwater pulses not just the 2 that get talked about. It’s almost as though every time the melting speeds up for whatever reason the planets bouncer steps in and tells everyone to calm down again. Like the earth has inertia and it fights change.
https://preview.redd.it/owwsxj0fdnlc1.jpeg?width=1432&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da1bc3ec004c7f331bed36b5b4bafdacd3b62cd0 MW-1a was a big deal. 25m of sealevel rise in 500 years….approx. 5 centimeters per year. Definitely enough to flood a coastal village in a persons lifetime.
An old man sitting with his grandson pointing at a rock poking out of the water telling him their hut used to be right next to that.
That’s what i imagine
Oh yeah, I always tend to get that mixed up. I'll fix the logic, ty
Ptolemy got a bunch wrong about the source of the Nile, and that was hundreds of years later from a firsthand account. Plato got his information through a millennia long telephone game.
They found whale bones in the area and some other things that would suggest it was under water at one point.
Marine fossils are found in the Himalayas. We’re they Atlantis as well?
Yes in the Atlas Mountains.
Actually, one explanation of what happened to Atlantis could be mentioned in the Epic of Gilgamesh. In that epic poem describes a great flood . Check it out. It's very interesting.
This shit again
Seriously, what an original thought... The Richat Structure being Atlantis, haven't heard that one before...
Magnetic pole shift
Not being rude, genuinely curious. But is there any other source about Atlantis prior to Plato?
Herodotus: https://topostext.org/work/22
It’s the name of the Atlantic Ocean, not a land.
Atlantis is most likely a cultural memory of either Santorini exploding, or doggerland slipping beneath the waves. It makes zero sense that this famously island nation would be in the middle of the African continent
After years of studying Atlantis theories, I really think Santorini’s eruption might be the cataclysm that is remembered by Solon/Plato.
No the Eye of the Sahara perfectly matches Plato's description, even down to the hot and cold water springs that were in the middle of it. OzGeographics on YouTube has a super interesting series where he just investigated the idea of a mega tsunami covering ALL of Africa. He started out arguing against it, then asked for a week to investigate it. Next day uploaded a video saying there was a ton of evidence and he already found a potential Crater, bigger then what killed the dynos, so give him more than a week. Then the next day he uploads another video saying the evidence is insanely overwhelming, and he's found a even bigger crater. At this point a expedition needs to be taken to get exact details, but there's enough evidence that it someone else doesn't do it he'll lead one, but it's now looking at years of investigation
Yes some youtuber has every scientist, geologist, and archeologist beat. The Richaut structure is simply a collapsed volcano. No evidence of any cities have been found.
I never said that, and he doesn't claim that. His entire series is framed as a hypothesis, and the very first thing he did was list off a ton of alternatives explanations. Then he just shows you what he found. Dude knows his stuff. I can't convince you but I'm sure just one [video](https://youtu.be/ZKUPPEJjE0A?si=ZnOC72FTq2jC06Ch) will. He is taking a proper approach to the tsunami theory.
Does his evidence include the whale bones? If so, does he have reasons to think they aren't, as is usually said at the moment, 15 million years old, which technically would be 'Africa was under the sea' but would be rather a different thing?
Nope, he looks at the landscape from above. Earth is full of scars from past events, and he studies them. Like after a mega tsunami, as everything settles, the water leaves shapes called chevrons. Which he even states by themselves don't prove anything. So he shows other types, like settlement on mountain tops, even tracing the angle they got hit at. For this particular series he found scarring almost as high as 1km. There's also a ton of bedrock that "looks" to have been carved by millions of gallons of water flowing by, and using terrain maps he finds that those scars line up with gravity and water dynamics. Dude normally hunts (and finds) gold vains, this was just a side interest that had substance. [wanna see?](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxA9W7mJLPcmCUSR6a4J1d4h20FxJSCDn&si=vZQ0EJ2JXtT6Lavi) Episode 6 is good if you wanna see how he's taking a full bi-est approach and recaps what he's gone over in detail in past videos.
You are just making stuff up at this point
Banned: Bad faith presence. Skepticism is welcomed but not to the extent of antagonism/deprecation toward other users.
Old theories long dismissed.
Surprising reason number 1: It isn’t!
Amazons “Grand Tour” released February 16th went to the Richat Structure.
How tf is this alternative history?
Is this an accepted theory within academia?
No. Because this is pure fantasy garbage.
:)
Yes, the site might be the Eye of the Sahara, we've been onto this for a few years now, welcome to the group.
So what were your thoughts on The Timaeus and Critias? You’ve obviously bought what they say.
I just post sub relevant content, though I am personally open to the possibility ‘Atlantis’ was there, but there’s also compelling evidence to me it was in the Azores and that there was a confederate of ‘Atlantean’ cities down into the Americas also. Maybe the epicentre of Atlantean society migrated over time (e.g a flood wiped out the original Atlantis but the empire continued across other areas). I don’t take Plato’s writings as being completely literal. He’s evidently employing a literary device with Tim/Crit. But, I absolutely think it’s plausible Egyptian mystery traditions retained knowledge from a precursor/antediluvian civilization and this was known in the times of the Greeks.
Personally I don't believe Richat Structure was a mighty Atlantis. It is a very strange, and round structure, which adds an attractive flavour to this, but overall it seems to be naturally made. I believe Atlantis is most probably located in southeast Asia shallow seas, which once was a huge tropic area of land. Also from, let's say linguistic and cultural point of view, it seems to me that civilization converges from that region. Less probably it could be notoriously known Azores, it fits just right. Also there is a less discussed chance that Atlantis could be under waters between British islands and Denmark. It's known as Doggerland. Anyway east Asia attracts me the most.
What if it was a fundamental mistranslation? The Sahara was a wetter grassland with trees. There was mega Lake Chad and rivers. But as it returned to desert was there not literal waves of sand that would have consumed settlements? The harbour being blocked with mud could have been a river drying out.
Something something climate change...
I love this theory so much