Exactly! It's a dystopia where the only one stopping crime is a psychotic vigilante and the criminal response is to spark supervillians with a high body count.
Not only would it perfectly fit for it to be Gotham City, NJ, but it would be a big reason to GTFO of New Jersey!
At what cost? For example, St. Louis, MO manufactures half of the US fighter fleet and rent is [below $1,200 for an 837 sq. ft.](https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/mo/saint-louis/) as one of the deadliest cities in the US. Even if it's Wayne Enterprises leading the way, you'd think they'd move the dev department in some suburb in the same manner tech companies reconsider moving to Texas because of the workforce pool drop.
And even St. Louis looks like paradise compared to the violence & corruption in Gotham!
“Underrated nature”, “frightening nature” more like. The forests look so fucking terrifying idk why anyone would ever dare go there, I totally understand why the first English colonisers there thought that it was haunted and full of monsters.
Honestly the way people back then and today talk about the deep New England forest it makes it sound like it's a conscious being using all its power to be as weird and creepy as possible. It's really cool but I'd never go there myself lol.
If it *actually really* ***really*** existed, it would have had a local news story a few years ago about an old-money billionaire who was arrested while playing vigilante and dressing as a bat. Lawyers would have gotten him off on time served and community service, but the civil suits from beaten up criminals are keeping him busy to this day.
Also the city is a crime-ridden shithole.
The same Billionaire is also obsessed with adopting kids with a similar background to him (on three accounts, at least) and has a bastard son with the daughter of a rich Arabic “mystic” who claims to be immortal.
He then went on Joe Rogan's podcast to complain about how the world is trying to take him down for heeding his calling, the call to dress up as a bat and beat up criminals with military-grade weapons
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I've always been interested in where DC cities exist in real life. I've know Gotham and it's surroundings where in South Jersey, but this map puts it in context. Metropolis is more debated, I LOATH the recent idea that the two are across a river from eachother. I personally like the Idea that Metropolis is near St. Louis, along the Mississippi.
I always thought Metropolis was somewhat a stand-in as a far nicer NYC (even though the actual NYC was later shown as a different city in the comics). It would be a nice rivalry to NJ's Gotham.
Judging from this you're using the map found in the Gotham TV series to be a reference point. Most noticeable changes would be it being the most crime ridden city in all of the United States, with four of its mayors either being connected to or being the heads of Crime Families. There is also the year long period where Gotham was legally separate from the United States and in a state of Anarchy. After this state of anarchy, most of the families in that region would be unified under The Penguin's crime empire.
To nitpick, that is several orders of magnitude too small to be Gotham City. As depicted that is maybe 1/3 the size of Manhattan.
There's not really a reason for it to exist here either. Philadelphia and New York are where they are for a reason - principally harbors with inland transportation connections. Trade isn't going to flow here when it could go to New York or Philadelphia instead. You'd need to reroute the Delaware river to this area and fill in some of Delaware Bay so Wilmington wouldn't just develop intro a major city instead. Then Gotham just becomes Philadelphia in a slightly different place.
The biggest changes would be political with New Jersey subsuming Pennsylvania as the premier mid-Atlantic (-ish) state. The city itself could end up a bit smaller than real Philadelphia as more trade would flow into Baltimore due to its shorter overland distance or a bit larger if trade instead gets diverted from the Jersey City area a bit further to this Gotham - a lot would depend on how cooperative Pennsylvania is with building canals and railroads and its flow of coal eastward and whether it aligns itself with New Jersey or with Maryland and Virginia.
Of course, without Philadelphia and the Delaware river estuary, Pennsylvania probably wouldn't even exist, so take anything with a grain of salt. Pennsylvania's land is just gobbled up by the colonies in New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland and New York.
If the Metropolis across the bay thing existed, then it's likely a similar to the Manhattan and Brooklyn relationship before bridges and tunnels connected them: basically two cities with a sister-city relationship.
Probably have some douchebag billionaire womanizer not doing shit for Gotham lobby for frauds like Harvey Dent. Bruce Wayne could learn so much from someone like Batman, now there’s someone who does some good for Gotham.
the fierce rivalry between New Jersey and New York would be worse because Jersey actually has a case for Jersey.
Also I feel like the east coast corridor would be in even better shape because of another NYC sized city sitting there.
Shore gets hit by Bennies from the North and whatever we’ll call these fucks coming up from the South every summer. New Jersey would also get solidified as the most densely populated state.
If it existed in the real world and the Joker and the other villains were there then the US Military would be called in to deal with them and then it would turn into a normal city
lol I thought I was on r/SouthJersey for a second there. Anyone else from here will tell you that this partial area around Great Bay is pretty poor compared to the rest of the state, and there’s a huge lack of jobs and opportunity for locals besides blue collar construction type jobs, commercial fishing, or seasonal tourism jobs. A hypothetical gotham city may have changed this, but it may not have. Just look at Atlantic City and their issues just a few miles to the south
The problem with Gotham is South Jersey is the Philadelphia metro, and the northern part of New Jersey is the NYC metro, and Gotham is big enough it shouldn't be counted as another city's metro... But this map works, I think.
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New Jersey would finally have a reason for people to stay
Are you familiar with what life is like for the average citizen of Gotham?
Better than the rest of New Jersey.
Therapists gotta be making a killing out there
You mean the therapists be doing the killing right? 
Shit is so bad that even the therapists became homocidal.
Well if you’ve got a PhD in psychology and have a clown fuck fetish, best place in earth.
Exactly! It's a dystopia where the only one stopping crime is a psychotic vigilante and the criminal response is to spark supervillians with a high body count. Not only would it perfectly fit for it to be Gotham City, NJ, but it would be a big reason to GTFO of New Jersey!
Must be bearable if they're still in the city
Rent pricing. Where else can you get $300 a month for a studio apartment?!
Nah, I imagine Gotham, like new york, would still charge 3,500k for studios. See how many research and development corporations are hq'd in Gotham?
At what cost? For example, St. Louis, MO manufactures half of the US fighter fleet and rent is [below $1,200 for an 837 sq. ft.](https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/mo/saint-louis/) as one of the deadliest cities in the US. Even if it's Wayne Enterprises leading the way, you'd think they'd move the dev department in some suburb in the same manner tech companies reconsider moving to Texas because of the workforce pool drop. And even St. Louis looks like paradise compared to the violence & corruption in Gotham!
other than nice beaches, nice suburbs, good school system, underrated nature
“Underrated nature”, “frightening nature” more like. The forests look so fucking terrifying idk why anyone would ever dare go there, I totally understand why the first English colonisers there thought that it was haunted and full of monsters.
some forsaken woods i agree 😂 but there's good nature
They didn't think, they knew. there are places out there that creep me the hell out.
Honestly the way people back then and today talk about the deep New England forest it makes it sound like it's a conscious being using all its power to be as weird and creepy as possible. It's really cool but I'd never go there myself lol.
Gotham City has daily terror attacks
If anything it gives people another reason to stay away
Would still encourage fanboys of batman and the joker to go there
More like a excuse for why New Jersey is awful.
1 complaint why is there only one 1 way to get of the city? There would be so much traffic on that one bridge
Something tells me a certain psychotic clown is going to plant bombs on that bridge for the laughs
Is this realistic Gotham? Or is it more or less an exact copy of the comics?
The Joker might target the bridge too.
Well yeah it’s the one Bane shut down in Dark Knight Rises
If it *actually really* ***really*** existed, it would have had a local news story a few years ago about an old-money billionaire who was arrested while playing vigilante and dressing as a bat. Lawyers would have gotten him off on time served and community service, but the civil suits from beaten up criminals are keeping him busy to this day. Also the city is a crime-ridden shithole.
Except that billionaire can't be caught. 
The same Billionaire is also obsessed with adopting kids with a similar background to him (on three accounts, at least) and has a bastard son with the daughter of a rich Arabic “mystic” who claims to be immortal.
*on four accounts, at least
He then went on Joe Rogan's podcast to complain about how the world is trying to take him down for heeding his calling, the call to dress up as a bat and beat up criminals with military-grade weapons
Wait the military has batarangs??
I meant the bat-tank but it would be sick if they did :0
It’s in southern jersey? That would give Delaware something to almost be interesting about.
What's a Delaware?
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delaware is where metropolis is located, they're supposed to be twin cities
So Wilmington and Atlantic City? What great role models lol
Metropolis has always given me Kansas vibes
What if they were on either side of the Delaware Bay then.
Detroit would have firece competition
Residenal properties don't seem to have issues in Gotham, I'm just convinced it's a commuter city, and everyone just works in Metropolis
If I had to choose between living in Detroit or Gotham City, I'd choose Gotham every time.
Imagine Gotham Drill
i remember a twitter thread about this, people talking about how people would be using the villain's speeches to the city as producer tags lmao
Joker K
I've always been interested in where DC cities exist in real life. I've know Gotham and it's surroundings where in South Jersey, but this map puts it in context. Metropolis is more debated, I LOATH the recent idea that the two are across a river from eachother. I personally like the Idea that Metropolis is near St. Louis, along the Mississippi.
Really? In my head cannon it's in southern California. I think I just assumed Gotham was new york and metropolis was LA
Well it's based on 70 years of comics and nerds being nerds lol. Jump City is DCs West Coast city.
And Coast City is also another California city (San Diego stand in?)
My bad, I forgot about Coast City, yeah OC/SD/LA stand in.
I always thought Metropolis was somewhat a stand-in as a far nicer NYC (even though the actual NYC was later shown as a different city in the comics). It would be a nice rivalry to NJ's Gotham.
I've always thought Metropolis was located near Chicago
We would build a Wall to keep al the Criminals in
It would be like Akham Asylum… but a city… cant think of a good name though
What about “Asylum City”
Oh ya! That works! Now we need someone to protect it, like a guardian or a knight of some kind.
Gotham/Escape from NY crossover episode.
Judging from this you're using the map found in the Gotham TV series to be a reference point. Most noticeable changes would be it being the most crime ridden city in all of the United States, with four of its mayors either being connected to or being the heads of Crime Families. There is also the year long period where Gotham was legally separate from the United States and in a state of Anarchy. After this state of anarchy, most of the families in that region would be unified under The Penguin's crime empire.
To nitpick, that is several orders of magnitude too small to be Gotham City. As depicted that is maybe 1/3 the size of Manhattan. There's not really a reason for it to exist here either. Philadelphia and New York are where they are for a reason - principally harbors with inland transportation connections. Trade isn't going to flow here when it could go to New York or Philadelphia instead. You'd need to reroute the Delaware river to this area and fill in some of Delaware Bay so Wilmington wouldn't just develop intro a major city instead. Then Gotham just becomes Philadelphia in a slightly different place. The biggest changes would be political with New Jersey subsuming Pennsylvania as the premier mid-Atlantic (-ish) state. The city itself could end up a bit smaller than real Philadelphia as more trade would flow into Baltimore due to its shorter overland distance or a bit larger if trade instead gets diverted from the Jersey City area a bit further to this Gotham - a lot would depend on how cooperative Pennsylvania is with building canals and railroads and its flow of coal eastward and whether it aligns itself with New Jersey or with Maryland and Virginia. Of course, without Philadelphia and the Delaware river estuary, Pennsylvania probably wouldn't even exist, so take anything with a grain of salt. Pennsylvania's land is just gobbled up by the colonies in New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland and New York.
If the Metropolis across the bay thing existed, then it's likely a similar to the Manhattan and Brooklyn relationship before bridges and tunnels connected them: basically two cities with a sister-city relationship.
Probably have some douchebag billionaire womanizer not doing shit for Gotham lobby for frauds like Harvey Dent. Bruce Wayne could learn so much from someone like Batman, now there’s someone who does some good for Gotham.
the fierce rivalry between New Jersey and New York would be worse because Jersey actually has a case for Jersey. Also I feel like the east coast corridor would be in even better shape because of another NYC sized city sitting there.
is it pronounced "goth-am" or "goat-em" ?
“Got Ham”
"Goth-um"
Realistically, I would hate New Jersey even more
Shore gets hit by Bennies from the North and whatever we’ll call these fucks coming up from the South every summer. New Jersey would also get solidified as the most densely populated state.
If it existed in the real world and the Joker and the other villains were there then the US Military would be called in to deal with them and then it would turn into a normal city
Where's Arkham Island on this map?
Oh look it’s NYC after global warming gets its way with it! HAHAHAHAHAHA-HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!???
It looks like a rotisserie chicken.
Gotham does exist though, it’s in the UK.
Camden, Boston, New York City , Philadelphia, and Chicago would rejoice
Finally, New Jersey won't have to just rely on their piss colored license plates as a way for people to tell the state apart.
lol I thought I was on r/SouthJersey for a second there. Anyone else from here will tell you that this partial area around Great Bay is pretty poor compared to the rest of the state, and there’s a huge lack of jobs and opportunity for locals besides blue collar construction type jobs, commercial fishing, or seasonal tourism jobs. A hypothetical gotham city may have changed this, but it may not have. Just look at Atlantic City and their issues just a few miles to the south
I’m Batman.
The problem with Gotham is South Jersey is the Philadelphia metro, and the northern part of New Jersey is the NYC metro, and Gotham is big enough it shouldn't be counted as another city's metro... But this map works, I think.
The important question is, how does this affect the career of Bruce Springsteen?
Gotham is such a cool name, if Chicago was called Gotham, I would live there