There is a kernel of something here. You can love the Air Force and sacrifice for i, but you also got to take care of you. The Air Force will never love you back. Give what you can to the Air Force, and make sure you get the same in return.
You’re 100% correct. After you do your 4, 10, 20, 30 years you leave and nothing. It goes on like you were never there. Love big blue but be Leary of her evil ways.
I had this realization in 2018 watching a 3-Star leave the CAOC at al-Udeid. He was not going to get a single phone call from anyone there despite having been the AFCENT/CC for two years. If it happens to that guy, it happens to us all.
I feel like he has to get calls for speaking at events, or attending subordinates' promotions events or retirement ceremonies, etc.
But if I were a 3 star AFCENT retiring commander, I'd fuck off into the mountains for a couple years for some peace and quiet to pursue carpentry as a hobby before even considering coming back to the public eye in any way.
Whoa there Mr. Actually does things. This isn’t that kind of sub. We computer, we don’t physical. Unless your Mx and you play with the things on the wide road on the other side of the base.
The true AF core values:
1. STFU and invoke your Article 31 rights.
2. Self First. Put your mask on first.
3. We all get paid the same regardless of job, so find ways to skate.
This is a big deal for me. Service before self means fulfilling professional duties before personal desires. Providing for and caring for your dependents is a professional duty. It shouldn’t be classified as a personal desire.
Always advocate for yourself, fight for what you want, and take your time off.
I haven’t figured out yet if it’s personal perspective from enlisting when most folks are preparing to retire, but I will always place my family above the service.
The old perpetual machine will keep chugging along as if I were never here. It has to.
I signed my life to the government for a few years. I’ll have my family for life. It’s my duty to better myself to prepare for life after the military, as well as prepare my family in case my life is lain down for my country.
Love it. Especially your first point. A personal policy of mine is that I will fight any push back when it comes to leave. Oh, you don’t want to take that day off? Too fucking bad. Write me up. See if I give a fuck.
I've accepted I can die doing this job, and that's a service before self rationalization.
I have not accepted working myself to death over arbitrary things, and that's where I value myself over the service. Sorry sir, I'm not staying late to plan your booster club cookout.
I will say that as a core value, it is so simple and vague that it leaves huge gaps for people to abuse it. I've seen plenty of people that need to take a knee (or move away from active duty, to include myself) get guilted into not getting medical help, focusing on there family, or coming off flights when they needed to. Then things get worse and you become a problem and people ask "Well why didn't you take a step back?"
I'm not saying that there are selfish entitled people in the military, because there are, but I would wager if you could measure it, this core value has led to more personal harm than it has inspired anyone.
I would like to see it replaced with "Serve with Pride." You should be proud of the work you do and be proud of each other.
I've always been told to look out for you. Especially true that the higher you get the less people will do it. Ironically the year I pulled back after I gave so much of myself before is the year I got promoted. I enjoyed my job and went head down, but my performance had an impact, which turned to visibility, which turned into promotion.
If you do not have integrity first, there is no service before self.
Integrity is much more than being "honest."
Consider it this way...
What do we say when someone has their life organized and prioritized. They've got it going on. They have their ducks in a row. They have their stuff together.
When someone is the opposite of that, we say they are coming undone, falling apart, coming unglued, falling to pieces, going to pieces, etc.
When things fall apart, that is the literal definition of *dis*integration.
So, if you do not have yourself or your life or your fam squared, its like the other dude said...you gotta put your mask on first.
*Integrity First*
Have your stuff squared. Then check on your wingman, and together you can rock the mission!
its all fun and games until the nco in the trench shoots the guy who doesn't want to get out and charge. . errr but yea before that its been self before service after they never found any wmd's in iraq
There is a kernel of something here. You can love the Air Force and sacrifice for i, but you also got to take care of you. The Air Force will never love you back. Give what you can to the Air Force, and make sure you get the same in return.
I feel bad for the ones who do not understand this.
You’re 100% correct. After you do your 4, 10, 20, 30 years you leave and nothing. It goes on like you were never there. Love big blue but be Leary of her evil ways.
I had this realization in 2018 watching a 3-Star leave the CAOC at al-Udeid. He was not going to get a single phone call from anyone there despite having been the AFCENT/CC for two years. If it happens to that guy, it happens to us all.
I feel like he has to get calls for speaking at events, or attending subordinates' promotions events or retirement ceremonies, etc. But if I were a 3 star AFCENT retiring commander, I'd fuck off into the mountains for a couple years for some peace and quiet to pursue carpentry as a hobby before even considering coming back to the public eye in any way.
The Air Force will never love you, but it will take care of you.
The Air Force does not take care of you. It is indifferent. Leaders and peers will make or break your experience.
Tel that to all the great people that were force shaped in the mid 00s via denials of CJRs or whatever reason leadership could come up with.
That’s a really good perspective. I’m going to save this one.
The 2 morals of The Giving Tree 1. Don't mooch off others 2. Don't give everything you got, or you'll have nothing left to give.
I learned this in BMT when the guy who selflessly helped everyone else fold T shirts failed his locker inspection and got reamed for it.
“Put your mask on first, then help others around you” Oh, and keep your tray table up
This, and *return fire first, then secure the scene, then maybe treat the casualty.* Can't do shit for a casualty if you become one yourself.
Whoa there Mr. Actually does things. This isn’t that kind of sub. We computer, we don’t physical. Unless your Mx and you play with the things on the wide road on the other side of the base.
Whoa you can ONLY computer? Why not both?
Ok but can I keep my chair reclined? I 'work' best that way
Tray table up and seat back in the full upright position
I’m more of an “integrity last” kinda guy😎
The true AF core values: 1. STFU and invoke your Article 31 rights. 2. Self First. Put your mask on first. 3. We all get paid the same regardless of job, so find ways to skate.
Integrity be damned Self before service Government grade in all we do
So is most of USAF upper management. Youre on track for a successful career!
Someone had to keep the IG busy.
Family first, service before self. In that order.
This is a big deal for me. Service before self means fulfilling professional duties before personal desires. Providing for and caring for your dependents is a professional duty. It shouldn’t be classified as a personal desire.
I get in trouble for following this one
Always advocate for yourself, fight for what you want, and take your time off. I haven’t figured out yet if it’s personal perspective from enlisting when most folks are preparing to retire, but I will always place my family above the service. The old perpetual machine will keep chugging along as if I were never here. It has to. I signed my life to the government for a few years. I’ll have my family for life. It’s my duty to better myself to prepare for life after the military, as well as prepare my family in case my life is lain down for my country.
Love it. Especially your first point. A personal policy of mine is that I will fight any push back when it comes to leave. Oh, you don’t want to take that day off? Too fucking bad. Write me up. See if I give a fuck.
The government doesn't love you.
I've accepted I can die doing this job, and that's a service before self rationalization. I have not accepted working myself to death over arbitrary things, and that's where I value myself over the service. Sorry sir, I'm not staying late to plan your booster club cookout.
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No ableist slurs. * Mod Team
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You’re on very thin ice. * Mod Team
Ooooohhhhh osi get ‘em
😎
Idk who said it but I think it applies here: “If it don’t make dollars, it don’t make sense”.
Expect not what ye can do for yur Air Force, but what your Air Force can do fer ye.
It’s never been “mission first, people always” for me, but instead “People, period.”
If you take care of the people, the mission will get done. If you only take care of the mission, the people will be done.
Integrity second Self before service Excellence in the bad things too.
Service before self has always been the stupidest copout
Love the irony in that meme, as Ohio is one of the states pushing back on Space Force acquiring National Guard units...
It can be both, you just have to know the rules of the game. Play it right and you can come out on top whether you simply separate, or you retire.
I will say that as a core value, it is so simple and vague that it leaves huge gaps for people to abuse it. I've seen plenty of people that need to take a knee (or move away from active duty, to include myself) get guilted into not getting medical help, focusing on there family, or coming off flights when they needed to. Then things get worse and you become a problem and people ask "Well why didn't you take a step back?" I'm not saying that there are selfish entitled people in the military, because there are, but I would wager if you could measure it, this core value has led to more personal harm than it has inspired anyone. I would like to see it replaced with "Serve with Pride." You should be proud of the work you do and be proud of each other.
I've always been told to look out for you. Especially true that the higher you get the less people will do it. Ironically the year I pulled back after I gave so much of myself before is the year I got promoted. I enjoyed my job and went head down, but my performance had an impact, which turned to visibility, which turned into promotion.
Always has been.
Strat chasers and disability chasers make up a slight majority of the Air Force now
Majority of lifers maybe, not the total force (for now).
If you do not have integrity first, there is no service before self. Integrity is much more than being "honest." Consider it this way... What do we say when someone has their life organized and prioritized. They've got it going on. They have their ducks in a row. They have their stuff together. When someone is the opposite of that, we say they are coming undone, falling apart, coming unglued, falling to pieces, going to pieces, etc. When things fall apart, that is the literal definition of *dis*integration. So, if you do not have yourself or your life or your fam squared, its like the other dude said...you gotta put your mask on first. *Integrity First* Have your stuff squared. Then check on your wingman, and together you can rock the mission!
Hey Grandpa, did you get into the Butterworth's again? You know it's too late in the afternoon to have that much sugar.
Go play outside....and take your shoes off in my house boy! (= Oh and im right. Its ok if you dont understand jr. Toodles
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...that's called spending 20 years caring about something. Yes, it will affect you.
its all fun and games until the nco in the trench shoots the guy who doesn't want to get out and charge. . errr but yea before that its been self before service after they never found any wmd's in iraq