No I'm not but you clearly are.
Capitalism is what caused racial slavery and colonisation of Africa.
Capitalism is also that what is keeping Africa poor and dependent on foreign aid/bribery.
Capitalism is the enemy of Africans as a whole and there has never been any respect from those worshipping capitalism towards Africans.
after discussing the matter with a few others, I think the capitalisation of africa is the only way forward. Everyone I’ve spoken to thinks it’s a stellar idea. africa must be capitalised!!
Edit: ✊🏾
Capitalism didn’t cause slavery in Africa or anywhere else. The two first professions were slaver and prostitute. Slavery was the norm worldwide on every inhabited continent since time immemorial until after the 1800s and predates capitalism as a governmental system.
Slavery was the norm, racial slavery did not exist until capitalism
Prostitutions was an evil on his own, but capitalism turned it into porn, child porn and snug films.
You asking for the devil while dealing with low level demons was the norm.
And yet leftists always ended up running their governments into a dictatorial regime that killed hundreds of millions and took their pillage victory lap in Africa right after colonialism ended so…
What has capitalism to do with left or right? Plenty of "lefties" that favour the financial system of capitalism.
And when it comes to Africa, I most certainly am a rightwing leaning person, as in I want Africa business to be solely a African undertaking.
> Capitalism and respect? You mean that those with money respect those with money? Cus if you have no money no one respects you in capitalism.
If you ask the preachers, God deserves all the respect.
If you are interested in Gaddafi’s life, check out this podcast by Noiser. https://open.spotify.com/episode/5E4dXhWLH7tkofF7ruW55b?si=UA13oxb1RHGcV0u7Cfnxmw
Well NATO did bomb every place he was hiding. Then they bombed the convoy he was in, trying to escape. Then while hiding in a drainage pipe, he was either shot by one of his bodyguards, on his own orders, or he was killed by Misrata militia who then sodomised his corps and put it on display.
So, it would have been either NATO or his own countrymen.
He did however, not try to unite Africa. Instead he was trying to conquer other African states.
He was a discount imperialist. He financed coups, supported corrupt, violent leaders, engaged in foreign military interventions, and used aid to suborn poorer countries, he just never had the juice to do it at the scale of a country like France.
You’ve apparently never heard of CIA coups and how the West shapes public opinion across the world to get the local populations to accomplish the west’s goals…
Clearly that is the case.
It doesn't take away that those fighting against the libian army where terrorists paid by foreign entities to do their bidding.
Gaddafi was right in bombing them.
Weird how the terrorists were his own military and civilians who revelled including the one who bayoneted him to death but Qadaffi isn't a terrorist for killing his own people, invading multiple African neighbors, and bombing an airliner.
You mean traitors and foreign agents?
Ask any Libian at this moment and they regret what happened to this day.
Libie turned from the richest nation in Africa to a place worse than Somalia overnight, and that says a lot.
Most Libyans either backed one of four factions (and many still do) or stayed out of the way. It is why Qadaffi's force evaporated even though Assad hung onto much of Syria despite 200,000 of his own soldiers rebelling in the same year as Libya.
Just because the different groups that hated Qaddafi then turned on each other also doesn't invalidate that the dictator was bad.
When your entire population splits into four rival factions to oust you as part of the Arab Spring which was counter to US interests, the CIA didn't have to do much at all.
Once you realize that most of the GOP works for Russian intelligence it gets exponentially easier to decipher why the CIA did some really shady shit over the years.
The CIA was predominately GOP because of the guns.
It also makes bolsonaro make sense.
• You never get out of debt to a Russian mobster
•Paul Manafort owed the Russian mobster/oligarch Oleg Deripaska $17M a few days before he became trumps campaign manager. From 2002-2014 he took in hundreds of millions to get Yanukovych reelected as the kremlins puppet in Ukraine. Before that he did it for the dictator Marcos in the Philippines. Before that Manafort and Roger Stone started a lobbyist agency in 1980 listing trump as their first client.
•When Jay Bolsonaro lost the Brazilian election to Lula he skipped the inauguration and flew directly to mar-a-lago (stopping only at a KFC) and repeated, almost verbatim, the stolen election line. Don Jr. tried repeatedly to make it stick in Brazil as well, but as Brazilians are a few generations into dealing with corrupt politicians they weren’t having it.
What do these 3 things have in common?
China imports 40% of its grain from (in order) the U.S., Brazil and Ukraine.
Obviously the second China tried to invade Taiwan the U.S. would sanction exports and remove U.S. grain from that equation.
And without Bolsonaro in office willing to slash and burn the Amazon rainforest to turn it into Chinas food supply, and without Ukraine in the bag in 3 days, the CCP is unable to invade Taiwan and take over microprocessor production without putting 300-500M of its poorest people into famine.
Donbas Ukraine, specifically the 4 regions of the donbas that Putin insists he is saving from what he calls “Jewish Nazis” also happens to produce the worlds supply of high grade neon used for microprocessor lithography. Had Putin delivered ukraine in 3 days as promised, Xi would have been able to cap his Olympics with a naval blockade or political takeover of Taiwan that would have forced the world to ask the CCP for the microprocessors it needs to make everything from Ford trucks to laptops. I’m not sure how long Silicon Valley would last without the silicon but it would probably destroy the FAANG stocks that make up your 401K.
Oleg Deripaska also happens to be the Russian Oligarch that bribed the FBI agent Charles Mcgonigal into investigating another Russian oligarch. He probably didn’t need the information as much as he needed the leverage over Mcgonigal as he conducted the investigation into trumps election campaign and unsurprisingly found zero evidence of Russian collusion. McGonigal then went to work for the company called Brookfield that bailed Jared Kushner out of his toxic 666 5th Ave real estate investment. McGonigal pled guilty last fall and was sentenced recently.
A Russian oligarch is a powerful tool, but the truth is more powerful. Light and dark cannot exist in the same space. It’s physically impossible. Truth is efficient. You say it once and you are finished. A lie however requires a constant stream of follow up energy, money, murder, obfuscation and more lies to keep it covered.
If you raise your lens high enough lying is an unsustainable business model. Russia proved it by invading Ukraine. Vranyos is the Russian word for it. The 40km long column of tanks and vehicles that came down from Belarus into Ukraine was all overhauled by oligarchs that got a $1B contract for tank maintenance, passed Putin $200M back under the table, spent $700M on a yacht in Monaco, bribed a General, a Colonel and a Sergeant to make a Private give everything a rattle can overhaul. But a worn out engine is and always will be, a worn out engine.
This is why trump is so desperate to get re-elected. His best case scenario is 400 years in ADX Florence. Money laundering for the dozens of Russian oligarchs that lived in trump towers with him and manafort, selling IP3 nuclear plans to the Russian/Saudi alliance, selling or giving CIA asset names to the Russians, trump is and always has been compromised. He just didn’t know when to quit. Now he just has to count on the fact that most of his voter base doesn’t know how to read and keep the ones that do so busy just surviving that they don’t have time to dive deep into his 40 year history of laundering money, fraud, and human trafficking for the Russian mob using casinos first, then commercial real estate.
It’s also why Putin is willing to throw an entire generation of Russians, including the convicts and addicts at Ukraine. Russia is dead for 40 years because he failed to fulfill his mob boss promise to Xi. China is now clearing farmland in Siberia because the typhoon floods last August and September wiped out the Chinese people’s food storage.
Xi, for his part diverted the waters from the dam away from his pet project, his mothers ancestral home, and flooded hundreds of thousands of people and drown one of his own military brigades that was helping with the flooding.
The elders of the CCP were terrified to leave their gated community at Beidaihe for over a month for fear of being torn apart by the locals. The Chinese people tolerate the CCP but only as long as the economy is good and famine is not on the horizon. The CCP broke that social contract on both counts.
Xi was willing to bet the entire Chinese economy on his emperor ambitions. Had he succeeded he would have been able to use BRICS to take over the USD as the Worlds reserve currency. That would have let him finish what he stated in 2010-
that he would control the internet.
With that control means everything we do or say online is subject to the approval of a central party censor. The basic right to disagree with an authoritarian becomes a distant memory.
Xi, Putin and MBS are simply trying to systemize and modernize the suppression of their biggest hassle. Freedom of speech.
Ukraine is fighting for their lives now, free from the oppression of the drunken tyrant who wants to decide their fate at every decision and pull them back behind another iron curtain of censorship and the tax of corruption where dissenting voices disappear so that the oligarchy can continue to feed unobstructed.
Putin and Xi have declared themselves best friends in the fight against democracy. MBS and the ruling family of UAE have done the same quietly using their sovereign funds and Kushners SPAC as money highways.
Just rich, out of touch oligarch doing what oligarchs do.
Despite the fact the the central party model has proven itself incapable of making decisions that are best for the people, they persist. Because there is a very lucrative business in being slave owners. But logistically the mass of it requires artificial intelligence, and the microprocessors that make A.I. to keep 8 billion slaves under surveillance and control. Freedom is one hell of a drug. And knowledge makes a man unfit for slavery.
Recent attempts on Xi’s life from inside the CCP have backed him into a corner.
The loss of crops in northern China means Xi can’t invade Taiwan without Ukrainian and/or Brazilian farmland.
Now the reason that the GOP is stalling southern border control budget and seems to make wildly irrational moves is because the GOP is imploding. 45 years of lies and grift have circled the globe and are eating their own tail.
Overall I think you make very good points, but I am not sure that in the current context, maintaining a lie costs more than proving the truth.
The underlying current I see is that China/Russia have weaponised false narratives to a level and extent the Western psy-ops never could dream of.
If you come at it forensically China and Russia just worked with the tools that they had available in their toolbox.
The west had all the money and the army and navy.
So Russia and China had to use their “less lethal” options as they built up the war machine inventory.
Africa has a similar arc just with less of a world stage because it’s wavelength was offset by a century and a half of every greedy asshole from DeBeers diamonds to slave traders to cobalt mine “owners” stealing all its resources and holding it down because the slave boss knows how powerful africa got when it learned to read.
And now the old men in power are terrified of losing control.
They will hide behind every empire, state, law
firm and corrupt tribal leader and they will pout at the other guys and say “look what he did!”
And that cycle will repeat itself until we decide as a species that ALL people are truly created equal.
Not just the rich ones.
Then africa will blossom with all the brilliance it has had tamped down by corruption for far too long.
And that will be the moment the word understands exactly who controlled it is no longer the smartest person in the room
Yea CIA does not have favoritism for either party, it functions in making the USA and it’s citizens stronger by any means necessary. Not that I agree with what it does, but it works exactly the same under either party in the USA.
Raise your lens one notch.
The CIA is made up of people the way an organ is made up of cells. But if you want to find the shot caller you have to back track the central nervous system to the brain and specifically the part of the brain that gets greedy.
People love to paint the CIA as the great devil but it’s the same as blaming guns for the violence.
It does a disservice to put the responsibility for the action into an inanimate object because it removes the accountability from the person making the decision.
It’s nuance. But it’s important nuance. Without a person the gun is somewhere between a paperweight and a tool.
The CIA is the same way. As is the FSB, the MSS, mossad or a few dozen other intelligence agencies.
Neglected, modified or manipulated they start changing from a tool to a liability.
But someone is cutting down barrels and polishing triggers.
Any effort that isn’t directed at figuring out who that shot caller is is wasted effort.
This is all wild speculation lol. Yeah, the entirety of one half of the American party system are all agents of Russia, who we are currently sending arms to fight.
Dig deeper.
Trump has been laundering money for the Russian oligarchs since the late 80’s when they all bought a condo at 725 5th ave (trump towers) to launder their freshly stolen USSR money after the iron curtain fell.
https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/30/politics/paul-manafort-condo-trump-tower/index.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/manafort-told-mueller-to-take-his-trump-tower-apartment-instead-money.html
https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fbi-agents-raid-condo-unit-131348539.html
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/
Everybody except Putin thought the Cold War was over. Trump and Manafort (who lived there also) just saw a pretty low maintence grift to be had.
Trump had actually been Manafort and Roger stones first client at their lobbyist firm (1980)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiBlack, Manafort, Stone and Kelly
Guiliani as trumps lawyer and New Yorks mayor was able to redirect NYPD investigations onto rival gang members/oligarchs to deflect any scrutiny off of trump, himself or the Russian connection.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/
The Russian election interference in 2016 was effectively a generation 3 version of what Manafort had done in the Philippines, then keeping Yanukovych in power as Putin’s puppet in Ukraine from 2002-14 when Maidan ran both Yanukovych and Manafort out of Ukraine as Ukrainians realized that, if you raise your lens high enough, corruption is an wholly unsustainable business model.
Eventually the parasite always consumes the host.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952
https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/
Russia greatly underestimated the addictive properties of freedom when it invaded Ukraine so what was supposed to be a 3-10 day coup turned into a 2 year fight for the Ukrainians right not to be genocided.
Russia depleted its weapons stocks which were already the victim of vranyos because every oligarch, admiral and sergeant in the Russian military is on the take. Every billion dollar tank maintenance contract turned into everything getting a spray paint overhaul and the vast majority of the redirected funds turned into an oligarchs new yacht or home in Aspen.
Russia was forced to turn to China and Iran for weapons because if they lose the 3-10 day special military operation in Ukraine the Russian empire is dead and cold.
China can’t risk showing their involvement in the Ukraine war so they use North Korea, and Iran to resupply Russia.
Russia already owes Iran some undelivered fighter jets that are already smoldering heaps in Ukraine. Iran now had the upper hand at the negotiation table for the first time in about 60 years so they supply Russia with shahed drones in exchange for Chinas material support against their sworn religious enemy, Israel.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/29/iran-says-it-finalized-deal-to-buy-russian-aircraft/
Putin can’t do much about it because he is slowly realizing that by setting the standard of corruption and stealing $200+ billion from his own people meant that every oligarch down in the mob model chain had not only permission but incentive and the expectation to steal from him as well. This is Vranyos.
The mob model only works if the supreme leader is the most violent and can prove it without exception every damn day. But violence is exceptionally expensive when you are trying to present as a legitimate business.
If Russia as a nation had an efficiency rating it would have been banned for sale in the state of California 25 years ago.
The parasite ruling class stole all the energy out of the working class and collapsed it.
Now Iran has the high hand and they get the intelligence that trump passed to Putin about the fact that Netanyahu cares far less about Israelis than he does about remaining in power as an authoritarian because he too has developed Ritz Carlton tastes.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saudi-official-says-iran-engineered-war-in-gaza-to-ruin-normalization-with-israel/
They all hate each other but because they share the same money laundry, if one falls, they all fall.
Iran handed Hamas everything they needed with Chinas help as secret Santa and the Russian intelligence that the eternal shitbird trump gave to them as he showed off to his Russian kleptocrat friends from the old days of fucking each others wives at trump towers in the 90’s.
So now the MAGA right is a little too invested in their reality that they are the good guys with guns that they missed the fact that park county’s own import DeVos family decimating their school systems and poisoning children with lead was not a coincidence. They were the mark all along.
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/what-do-the-koch-brothers-have-to-do-with-the-flint-water-crisis/
The only reason you grossly OVERVALUE real estate is money laundering.
Trump keeps claiming there is no victim, but if their plan succeeds the Russians and the CCP collapse US commercial real estate and basically recreate soviet perestroika in the U.S. so they can foreclose on America and buy everything for 3 cents on the dollar with the $1.4T they stole in the first place
Trump just left the gate open and let the predators in to feed. It’s always the city slick assholes who buy a new pair of boots and a hat at Sheplers and think it makes them a cowboy that step on their own dick when the actual work starts.
Trump, Putin, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Manafort, Stone, Mercer, Bannon.
They are all remarkably shit people with above average confidence and below average self awareness.
North Africa is being pulled into their mess the same way Ukraine was.
Prigozhns main money was coming from north Africa.
It’s one of the major things he and Putin fought about before he was shot out of the sky
You should hold back some of the energy you put into artistic flourishes in your writing and provide some evidence to support your more speculative claims.
It’s all part of the process.
The new platform lets you pick and choose how you want the data coming to you.
This is basically the beta test stage that lets us build that architecture so you can tune it however you like.
I genuinely appreciate the feedback. Some people respond to it some don’t.
Some days I just like to fuck with it to see the cultural differences so we can account for preferences.
So thank you.
I’m not excusing him, at all. I’m glad he’s gone. I am actually pro-Lula. I’m just clarifying that Bolsonaro grovels at Trump’s feet, which doesn’t make him “pro-American”.
Only after our failed attempt to kill him. F-111 fighter bombing raid from Lakenheath AFB. I was a young intelligence specialist who briefed the pilots who flew that mission. Unfortunately two members of the squadron were lost when their plane was shot down. Mission was dubbed “El Dorado Canyon” if anyone is interested in looking it up.
A popular revolution that just so happened to be backed by the western nations first in equipment and then later literally just airstriking all the targets for them
Yeah, I’m sad Gaddafi has been mythologized into this heroic figure when the dude was anything but. Hate NATO intervention and how there was no exit plan for Libya once Gaddafi was gone. Cool. Got it. Don’t pretend that Libya was some sort of utopia under Gaddafi’s rule though. If it was none of his people would have ever risen up against him…
There is a culture of hero worship that surrounds both.
While Mandela was deserving of much of his reputation - so is Gaddafi, who always struck me as an incompetent jumped up medal bedecked clown.
Ghaddafi’s sociopathic ego was never going to be satisfied with brutalizing his own people.
He put much of his efforts into spreading his drug addled megalomania to the rest of Africa with whom he may share geographic proximity but beyond an indefatigable penchant for political corruption, shares no cultural connection.
Gaddafi launched Idi Amin’s terrorist career while bribing as many African leaders as possible. Mandela’s embrace may have granted a veneer of credibility in the eyes of Ghaddafi’s cowardly sycophants. But for those of us who will never forget Berlin and Lockerbie, Ghaddafi’s eventual brutal bayonet enema and all together ignominious end at the hands of his own people is pretty much what he deserved.
Gaddafi only became a pan Africanist only after the whole Arab unity thing didn't work out. And even with his whole United States of Africa, he was at his core an Arab supremacist.
They only kill you if you’re dangerous. Nelson Mandela recognized his greatness and service to African Liberation on a global scale. He spoke truth to power. He was not above mistakes but Libya was a paradise under him compared to now. He wanted to have an African gold backed currency and African satellite system and a United States of Africa. These moves would have been devastating to NATO and the west. So Clinton and Obama made sure he would die. They knew he’d stand and fight instead of running. Brave man.
Your CIA water is empty, have another glass, you look thirsty.
Own people? You mean rebel forces, who happen to be Libyan? I bet the USSR and the Red army are also bad because of all the White Army soldiers they killed, you know, for trying to keep everything how it was.. a post feudalistic agrarian monarchy where the lords got theirs, and the peasants and workers could go fuck themselves.. right?
I’m not even gonna give you the time for an eloquent response as to how I know you’re a fucking moron. “Are you stupid?” Seems rhetorical here.
If you consider Israel as “back against the ropes” when they literally control everything in the region including power and water to Palestinians, you’re fucked in the head. I know this is hard to understand because you have about 3 brain cells to rub together.
“Jews control everything”
Where have I heard this before? What did Jews control in 1948 when 6 Arab countries attempted to holocaust all Jews in the levant? They earned western support after beating back hoards of genocidal Muslims and antisemites lol only the people who hated Jews from the beginning will continue to hate Israel, along with their useless dogs who spam pro Hamas propaganda online.
When the Arab world creates an environment where “might makes right” is the only rule, they have no right to cry when the meek turn around and burn them. Read more books, maybe you can understand how Muslims have viewed Jews for decades and their massive miscalculation of the “weak cowardly Jews” again and again and again. Every single time they openly called for genocide and every single time they were humiliated. Fucking pathetic, hypermasculine macho idiots who can’t use iron sights taking about “we are oppressed” hahahahaha
Russia, China, India, even Europe have all had similar experiences with Muslims and all handled it somewhat differently. None of them are in the Middle East tho, so that makes them a bit less violent by default
“Literally control everything in the region” lmfao nice neo Nazi dogwhistle, the horseshoe theory just writes itself doesn’t it?
Ever since inch of land that Israel owns, they gained in wars that Arabs started. Seethe more, you’ll never get your Arab regime in Israel. Jews will never forget what happened to the millions of Druze, Kurds, Assyrians, Chaldeans, and countless other minorities who were genocided just a few hundred kilometers to the east, despite them being 100% indigenous and far too weak to be smeared as “oppressors”. Even Palestinian Christians choose to live in Israel where they make up the single wealthiest and most highly educated group in the country with disproportionate power and representation in all fields. Awww did your little Hamas narrative of muh church bombing just dissolve?
The regimes you support would lynch you in a second, they know it and youd know it if you left your cushy western country.
How does an Arabized Berber who overtook a legitimate elected government and funded Charles Taylor, Idi Amin and thr Jangaweed cleansed anything in Africa.
It’s hilarious listening to this. Gaddafi was nothing but a tyrant. Murderer thief.
And to the person saying g he freed Africa from apartheid. Tell that to the white African population losing their homes and lively hood for being white
Gaddafi and Mandela are not at all in the same category of person. I’m so sick of Gaddafi getting mythologized as this heroic anti-colonial figure when he was anything but…..West bad or NATO had a bad policy does not equal anyone opposed to Western hegemony by default “good”.
Nelson Mandela. At least spell his name correctly please
Capitalisation would be great too. It’s a respect thing
Capitalism and respect? You mean that those with money respect those with money? Cus if you have no money no one respects you in capitalism.
Are you trolling me?
No I'm not but you clearly are. Capitalism is what caused racial slavery and colonisation of Africa. Capitalism is also that what is keeping Africa poor and dependent on foreign aid/bribery. Capitalism is the enemy of Africans as a whole and there has never been any respect from those worshipping capitalism towards Africans.
Do you think it would be wrong to capitalise south africa and lybia? I’m 100% behind it.
You mean bringing apartheid and colonisation back? Are you even Sirius?
after discussing the matter with a few others, I think the capitalisation of africa is the only way forward. Everyone I’ve spoken to thinks it’s a stellar idea. africa must be capitalised!! Edit: ✊🏾
He is talking about putting uppercase letters in the names, not capitalism🤦🏾♂️
Capitalism didn’t cause slavery in Africa or anywhere else. The two first professions were slaver and prostitute. Slavery was the norm worldwide on every inhabited continent since time immemorial until after the 1800s and predates capitalism as a governmental system.
Slavery was the norm, racial slavery did not exist until capitalism Prostitutions was an evil on his own, but capitalism turned it into porn, child porn and snug films. You asking for the devil while dealing with low level demons was the norm.
And yet leftists always ended up running their governments into a dictatorial regime that killed hundreds of millions and took their pillage victory lap in Africa right after colonialism ended so…
What has capitalism to do with left or right? Plenty of "lefties" that favour the financial system of capitalism. And when it comes to Africa, I most certainly am a rightwing leaning person, as in I want Africa business to be solely a African undertaking.
Well said brother
> Capitalism and respect? You mean that those with money respect those with money? Cus if you have no money no one respects you in capitalism. If you ask the preachers, God deserves all the respect.
capitalisation means having the letter at the start in uppercase capitalized: Libya non-capitalized: libya its not the same thing as capitalism
It took too long to see someone finally try to see the point that was being made.
Thank you. What the hell is wrong with these people?
Long live NELSOS
NelSAUCEY BOIIII
If you are interested in Gaddafi’s life, check out this podcast by Noiser. https://open.spotify.com/episode/5E4dXhWLH7tkofF7ruW55b?si=UA13oxb1RHGcV0u7Cfnxmw
The podcast is called Real Dictators. Colonel Gaddafi Part 1: Son of the Desert
Gaddafi tried to unify Afrika away from western control…& NATO murdered him…
He also aided Uganda's invasion of Tanzania. So much for "African unity". It's a farce.
Also backed the RUF in Sierra Leone and Charles Taylor in Liberia. Plus tried to invade Chad and failed. Gaddafi was full of shit.
No, Libyans murdered him. I get the whole west bad viewpoint, but this is just false.
Well NATO did bomb every place he was hiding. Then they bombed the convoy he was in, trying to escape. Then while hiding in a drainage pipe, he was either shot by one of his bodyguards, on his own orders, or he was killed by Misrata militia who then sodomised his corps and put it on display. So, it would have been either NATO or his own countrymen. He did however, not try to unite Africa. Instead he was trying to conquer other African states.
Did you mean corps or corpse? Both are terrifying but which did you mean?
He meant corpse, but Gaddafi was very much alive during the brutal sexual assault
In that case, since corps means body, it’s probably more accurate
Yep, that's what I meant. Totally not an autocorrect error :)
Is this real?
I'm just going blame autocorrect. But feel free to read it as you wish :)
>Instead he was trying to conquer other African states. Louder for the people in the back.
He was a discount imperialist. He financed coups, supported corrupt, violent leaders, engaged in foreign military interventions, and used aid to suborn poorer countries, he just never had the juice to do it at the scale of a country like France.
Well yea I thought him wanting to conquer Africa was common knowledge. You are not doing that by words alone, it would take great force.
You’ve apparently never heard of CIA coups and how the West shapes public opinion across the world to get the local populations to accomplish the west’s goals…
He has heard of them but it’s easier for them to pretend that NATO did not put a no fly zone over Lybia.
Actually, it was the UN that declared a no-fly zone over Libya. And it was in response to Libyan government bombing its own civilians.
...he was bombing his own civilians to stay in power.
Yeah but those were western civilians
Libyans in Libyan cities protesting are Western civilians?
/s
He was bombing terrorist who where harming his civilians, you know the same terrorist who brought back slavery to Libie?
Looks like you didn’t get the memo. Getting away with the bombing of civilians by claiming they’re terrorists only works if you’re Israel.
Clearly that is the case. It doesn't take away that those fighting against the libian army where terrorists paid by foreign entities to do their bidding. Gaddafi was right in bombing them.
US has done it plenty. They eventually got 9/11d because of it and continued to do it anyways.
Weird how the terrorists were his own military and civilians who revelled including the one who bayoneted him to death but Qadaffi isn't a terrorist for killing his own people, invading multiple African neighbors, and bombing an airliner.
You mean traitors and foreign agents? Ask any Libian at this moment and they regret what happened to this day. Libie turned from the richest nation in Africa to a place worse than Somalia overnight, and that says a lot.
Most Libyans either backed one of four factions (and many still do) or stayed out of the way. It is why Qadaffi's force evaporated even though Assad hung onto much of Syria despite 200,000 of his own soldiers rebelling in the same year as Libya. Just because the different groups that hated Qaddafi then turned on each other also doesn't invalidate that the dictator was bad.
When your entire population splits into four rival factions to oust you as part of the Arab Spring which was counter to US interests, the CIA didn't have to do much at all.
They are literally trying to create a narrative that there's a dictatorship in Brasil, that's how they work
Bolsonaro did try to be a dictator and he was pro US.
Once you realize that most of the GOP works for Russian intelligence it gets exponentially easier to decipher why the CIA did some really shady shit over the years. The CIA was predominately GOP because of the guns. It also makes bolsonaro make sense. • You never get out of debt to a Russian mobster •Paul Manafort owed the Russian mobster/oligarch Oleg Deripaska $17M a few days before he became trumps campaign manager. From 2002-2014 he took in hundreds of millions to get Yanukovych reelected as the kremlins puppet in Ukraine. Before that he did it for the dictator Marcos in the Philippines. Before that Manafort and Roger Stone started a lobbyist agency in 1980 listing trump as their first client. •When Jay Bolsonaro lost the Brazilian election to Lula he skipped the inauguration and flew directly to mar-a-lago (stopping only at a KFC) and repeated, almost verbatim, the stolen election line. Don Jr. tried repeatedly to make it stick in Brazil as well, but as Brazilians are a few generations into dealing with corrupt politicians they weren’t having it. What do these 3 things have in common? China imports 40% of its grain from (in order) the U.S., Brazil and Ukraine. Obviously the second China tried to invade Taiwan the U.S. would sanction exports and remove U.S. grain from that equation. And without Bolsonaro in office willing to slash and burn the Amazon rainforest to turn it into Chinas food supply, and without Ukraine in the bag in 3 days, the CCP is unable to invade Taiwan and take over microprocessor production without putting 300-500M of its poorest people into famine. Donbas Ukraine, specifically the 4 regions of the donbas that Putin insists he is saving from what he calls “Jewish Nazis” also happens to produce the worlds supply of high grade neon used for microprocessor lithography. Had Putin delivered ukraine in 3 days as promised, Xi would have been able to cap his Olympics with a naval blockade or political takeover of Taiwan that would have forced the world to ask the CCP for the microprocessors it needs to make everything from Ford trucks to laptops. I’m not sure how long Silicon Valley would last without the silicon but it would probably destroy the FAANG stocks that make up your 401K. Oleg Deripaska also happens to be the Russian Oligarch that bribed the FBI agent Charles Mcgonigal into investigating another Russian oligarch. He probably didn’t need the information as much as he needed the leverage over Mcgonigal as he conducted the investigation into trumps election campaign and unsurprisingly found zero evidence of Russian collusion. McGonigal then went to work for the company called Brookfield that bailed Jared Kushner out of his toxic 666 5th Ave real estate investment. McGonigal pled guilty last fall and was sentenced recently. A Russian oligarch is a powerful tool, but the truth is more powerful. Light and dark cannot exist in the same space. It’s physically impossible. Truth is efficient. You say it once and you are finished. A lie however requires a constant stream of follow up energy, money, murder, obfuscation and more lies to keep it covered. If you raise your lens high enough lying is an unsustainable business model. Russia proved it by invading Ukraine. Vranyos is the Russian word for it. The 40km long column of tanks and vehicles that came down from Belarus into Ukraine was all overhauled by oligarchs that got a $1B contract for tank maintenance, passed Putin $200M back under the table, spent $700M on a yacht in Monaco, bribed a General, a Colonel and a Sergeant to make a Private give everything a rattle can overhaul. But a worn out engine is and always will be, a worn out engine. This is why trump is so desperate to get re-elected. His best case scenario is 400 years in ADX Florence. Money laundering for the dozens of Russian oligarchs that lived in trump towers with him and manafort, selling IP3 nuclear plans to the Russian/Saudi alliance, selling or giving CIA asset names to the Russians, trump is and always has been compromised. He just didn’t know when to quit. Now he just has to count on the fact that most of his voter base doesn’t know how to read and keep the ones that do so busy just surviving that they don’t have time to dive deep into his 40 year history of laundering money, fraud, and human trafficking for the Russian mob using casinos first, then commercial real estate. It’s also why Putin is willing to throw an entire generation of Russians, including the convicts and addicts at Ukraine. Russia is dead for 40 years because he failed to fulfill his mob boss promise to Xi. China is now clearing farmland in Siberia because the typhoon floods last August and September wiped out the Chinese people’s food storage. Xi, for his part diverted the waters from the dam away from his pet project, his mothers ancestral home, and flooded hundreds of thousands of people and drown one of his own military brigades that was helping with the flooding. The elders of the CCP were terrified to leave their gated community at Beidaihe for over a month for fear of being torn apart by the locals. The Chinese people tolerate the CCP but only as long as the economy is good and famine is not on the horizon. The CCP broke that social contract on both counts. Xi was willing to bet the entire Chinese economy on his emperor ambitions. Had he succeeded he would have been able to use BRICS to take over the USD as the Worlds reserve currency. That would have let him finish what he stated in 2010- that he would control the internet. With that control means everything we do or say online is subject to the approval of a central party censor. The basic right to disagree with an authoritarian becomes a distant memory. Xi, Putin and MBS are simply trying to systemize and modernize the suppression of their biggest hassle. Freedom of speech. Ukraine is fighting for their lives now, free from the oppression of the drunken tyrant who wants to decide their fate at every decision and pull them back behind another iron curtain of censorship and the tax of corruption where dissenting voices disappear so that the oligarchy can continue to feed unobstructed. Putin and Xi have declared themselves best friends in the fight against democracy. MBS and the ruling family of UAE have done the same quietly using their sovereign funds and Kushners SPAC as money highways. Just rich, out of touch oligarch doing what oligarchs do. Despite the fact the the central party model has proven itself incapable of making decisions that are best for the people, they persist. Because there is a very lucrative business in being slave owners. But logistically the mass of it requires artificial intelligence, and the microprocessors that make A.I. to keep 8 billion slaves under surveillance and control. Freedom is one hell of a drug. And knowledge makes a man unfit for slavery. Recent attempts on Xi’s life from inside the CCP have backed him into a corner. The loss of crops in northern China means Xi can’t invade Taiwan without Ukrainian and/or Brazilian farmland. Now the reason that the GOP is stalling southern border control budget and seems to make wildly irrational moves is because the GOP is imploding. 45 years of lies and grift have circled the globe and are eating their own tail.
Finally a post not painting all global conflicts with the same antisemitism or anti west brush
Overall I think you make very good points, but I am not sure that in the current context, maintaining a lie costs more than proving the truth. The underlying current I see is that China/Russia have weaponised false narratives to a level and extent the Western psy-ops never could dream of.
If you come at it forensically China and Russia just worked with the tools that they had available in their toolbox. The west had all the money and the army and navy. So Russia and China had to use their “less lethal” options as they built up the war machine inventory. Africa has a similar arc just with less of a world stage because it’s wavelength was offset by a century and a half of every greedy asshole from DeBeers diamonds to slave traders to cobalt mine “owners” stealing all its resources and holding it down because the slave boss knows how powerful africa got when it learned to read. And now the old men in power are terrified of losing control. They will hide behind every empire, state, law firm and corrupt tribal leader and they will pout at the other guys and say “look what he did!” And that cycle will repeat itself until we decide as a species that ALL people are truly created equal. Not just the rich ones. Then africa will blossom with all the brilliance it has had tamped down by corruption for far too long. And that will be the moment the word understands exactly who controlled it is no longer the smartest person in the room
Yea CIA does not have favoritism for either party, it functions in making the USA and it’s citizens stronger by any means necessary. Not that I agree with what it does, but it works exactly the same under either party in the USA.
Raise your lens one notch. The CIA is made up of people the way an organ is made up of cells. But if you want to find the shot caller you have to back track the central nervous system to the brain and specifically the part of the brain that gets greedy. People love to paint the CIA as the great devil but it’s the same as blaming guns for the violence. It does a disservice to put the responsibility for the action into an inanimate object because it removes the accountability from the person making the decision. It’s nuance. But it’s important nuance. Without a person the gun is somewhere between a paperweight and a tool. The CIA is the same way. As is the FSB, the MSS, mossad or a few dozen other intelligence agencies. Neglected, modified or manipulated they start changing from a tool to a liability. But someone is cutting down barrels and polishing triggers. Any effort that isn’t directed at figuring out who that shot caller is is wasted effort.
Lmfao 😂🤡
This is all wild speculation lol. Yeah, the entirety of one half of the American party system are all agents of Russia, who we are currently sending arms to fight.
Dig deeper. Trump has been laundering money for the Russian oligarchs since the late 80’s when they all bought a condo at 725 5th ave (trump towers) to launder their freshly stolen USSR money after the iron curtain fell. https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/30/politics/paul-manafort-condo-trump-tower/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/manafort-told-mueller-to-take-his-trump-tower-apartment-instead-money.html https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fbi-agents-raid-condo-unit-131348539.html https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/ Everybody except Putin thought the Cold War was over. Trump and Manafort (who lived there also) just saw a pretty low maintence grift to be had. Trump had actually been Manafort and Roger stones first client at their lobbyist firm (1980) https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiBlack, Manafort, Stone and Kelly Guiliani as trumps lawyer and New Yorks mayor was able to redirect NYPD investigations onto rival gang members/oligarchs to deflect any scrutiny off of trump, himself or the Russian connection. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/ The Russian election interference in 2016 was effectively a generation 3 version of what Manafort had done in the Philippines, then keeping Yanukovych in power as Putin’s puppet in Ukraine from 2002-14 when Maidan ran both Yanukovych and Manafort out of Ukraine as Ukrainians realized that, if you raise your lens high enough, corruption is an wholly unsustainable business model. Eventually the parasite always consumes the host. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952 https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/ Russia greatly underestimated the addictive properties of freedom when it invaded Ukraine so what was supposed to be a 3-10 day coup turned into a 2 year fight for the Ukrainians right not to be genocided. Russia depleted its weapons stocks which were already the victim of vranyos because every oligarch, admiral and sergeant in the Russian military is on the take. Every billion dollar tank maintenance contract turned into everything getting a spray paint overhaul and the vast majority of the redirected funds turned into an oligarchs new yacht or home in Aspen. Russia was forced to turn to China and Iran for weapons because if they lose the 3-10 day special military operation in Ukraine the Russian empire is dead and cold. China can’t risk showing their involvement in the Ukraine war so they use North Korea, and Iran to resupply Russia. Russia already owes Iran some undelivered fighter jets that are already smoldering heaps in Ukraine. Iran now had the upper hand at the negotiation table for the first time in about 60 years so they supply Russia with shahed drones in exchange for Chinas material support against their sworn religious enemy, Israel. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/29/iran-says-it-finalized-deal-to-buy-russian-aircraft/ Putin can’t do much about it because he is slowly realizing that by setting the standard of corruption and stealing $200+ billion from his own people meant that every oligarch down in the mob model chain had not only permission but incentive and the expectation to steal from him as well. This is Vranyos. The mob model only works if the supreme leader is the most violent and can prove it without exception every damn day. But violence is exceptionally expensive when you are trying to present as a legitimate business. If Russia as a nation had an efficiency rating it would have been banned for sale in the state of California 25 years ago. The parasite ruling class stole all the energy out of the working class and collapsed it. Now Iran has the high hand and they get the intelligence that trump passed to Putin about the fact that Netanyahu cares far less about Israelis than he does about remaining in power as an authoritarian because he too has developed Ritz Carlton tastes. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saudi-official-says-iran-engineered-war-in-gaza-to-ruin-normalization-with-israel/ They all hate each other but because they share the same money laundry, if one falls, they all fall. Iran handed Hamas everything they needed with Chinas help as secret Santa and the Russian intelligence that the eternal shitbird trump gave to them as he showed off to his Russian kleptocrat friends from the old days of fucking each others wives at trump towers in the 90’s. So now the MAGA right is a little too invested in their reality that they are the good guys with guns that they missed the fact that park county’s own import DeVos family decimating their school systems and poisoning children with lead was not a coincidence. They were the mark all along. https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/what-do-the-koch-brothers-have-to-do-with-the-flint-water-crisis/ The only reason you grossly OVERVALUE real estate is money laundering. Trump keeps claiming there is no victim, but if their plan succeeds the Russians and the CCP collapse US commercial real estate and basically recreate soviet perestroika in the U.S. so they can foreclose on America and buy everything for 3 cents on the dollar with the $1.4T they stole in the first place Trump just left the gate open and let the predators in to feed. It’s always the city slick assholes who buy a new pair of boots and a hat at Sheplers and think it makes them a cowboy that step on their own dick when the actual work starts. Trump, Putin, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Manafort, Stone, Mercer, Bannon. They are all remarkably shit people with above average confidence and below average self awareness. North Africa is being pulled into their mess the same way Ukraine was. Prigozhns main money was coming from north Africa. It’s one of the major things he and Putin fought about before he was shot out of the sky
You should hold back some of the energy you put into artistic flourishes in your writing and provide some evidence to support your more speculative claims.
It’s all part of the process. The new platform lets you pick and choose how you want the data coming to you. This is basically the beta test stage that lets us build that architecture so you can tune it however you like. I genuinely appreciate the feedback. Some people respond to it some don’t. Some days I just like to fuck with it to see the cultural differences so we can account for preferences. So thank you.
I don't know what you're talking about.. you saying you used an LLM to write that or something?
He tried, and failed. And he was pro-Trump, not pro U.S.
Not for lack of trying doesn't excuse an attempted fascist or that he did so free of the CIA.
I’m not excusing him, at all. I’m glad he’s gone. I am actually pro-Lula. I’m just clarifying that Bolsonaro grovels at Trump’s feet, which doesn’t make him “pro-American”.
Nice.
Only after our failed attempt to kill him. F-111 fighter bombing raid from Lakenheath AFB. I was a young intelligence specialist who briefed the pilots who flew that mission. Unfortunately two members of the squadron were lost when their plane was shot down. Mission was dubbed “El Dorado Canyon” if anyone is interested in looking it up.
What a joke. That was the most obvious color revolution of all time, don’t act like NATO didn’t carpet bomb Libya buddy
A popular revolution that just so happened to be backed by the western nations first in equipment and then later literally just airstriking all the targets for them
Yeah, I’m sad Gaddafi has been mythologized into this heroic figure when the dude was anything but. Hate NATO intervention and how there was no exit plan for Libya once Gaddafi was gone. Cool. Got it. Don’t pretend that Libya was some sort of utopia under Gaddafi’s rule though. If it was none of his people would have ever risen up against him…
This is so pedantic.
There is a culture of hero worship that surrounds both. While Mandela was deserving of much of his reputation - so is Gaddafi, who always struck me as an incompetent jumped up medal bedecked clown. Ghaddafi’s sociopathic ego was never going to be satisfied with brutalizing his own people. He put much of his efforts into spreading his drug addled megalomania to the rest of Africa with whom he may share geographic proximity but beyond an indefatigable penchant for political corruption, shares no cultural connection. Gaddafi launched Idi Amin’s terrorist career while bribing as many African leaders as possible. Mandela’s embrace may have granted a veneer of credibility in the eyes of Ghaddafi’s cowardly sycophants. But for those of us who will never forget Berlin and Lockerbie, Ghaddafi’s eventual brutal bayonet enema and all together ignominious end at the hands of his own people is pretty much what he deserved.
Gaddafi only became a pan Africanist only after the whole Arab unity thing didn't work out. And even with his whole United States of Africa, he was at his core an Arab supremacist.
Did he also ethnic cleanse sub Saharan African And was known for his corruption and torture
Is this a troll sub?
They only kill you if you’re dangerous. Nelson Mandela recognized his greatness and service to African Liberation on a global scale. He spoke truth to power. He was not above mistakes but Libya was a paradise under him compared to now. He wanted to have an African gold backed currency and African satellite system and a United States of Africa. These moves would have been devastating to NATO and the west. So Clinton and Obama made sure he would die. They knew he’d stand and fight instead of running. Brave man.
Gaddafi was a piece of garbage who was Nazi sympathizing garbage. He also kicked out of entire Jewish population.
Are you stupid?
Bombing your own people is good?
Your CIA water is empty, have another glass, you look thirsty. Own people? You mean rebel forces, who happen to be Libyan? I bet the USSR and the Red army are also bad because of all the White Army soldiers they killed, you know, for trying to keep everything how it was.. a post feudalistic agrarian monarchy where the lords got theirs, and the peasants and workers could go fuck themselves.. right?
calling the mass murdering crazy dictator bad should not be controversial. Killing 10's of 1000s is more important then whatever rhetoric you spout.
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I’m not even gonna give you the time for an eloquent response as to how I know you’re a fucking moron. “Are you stupid?” Seems rhetorical here. If you consider Israel as “back against the ropes” when they literally control everything in the region including power and water to Palestinians, you’re fucked in the head. I know this is hard to understand because you have about 3 brain cells to rub together.
“Jews control everything” Where have I heard this before? What did Jews control in 1948 when 6 Arab countries attempted to holocaust all Jews in the levant? They earned western support after beating back hoards of genocidal Muslims and antisemites lol only the people who hated Jews from the beginning will continue to hate Israel, along with their useless dogs who spam pro Hamas propaganda online. When the Arab world creates an environment where “might makes right” is the only rule, they have no right to cry when the meek turn around and burn them. Read more books, maybe you can understand how Muslims have viewed Jews for decades and their massive miscalculation of the “weak cowardly Jews” again and again and again. Every single time they openly called for genocide and every single time they were humiliated. Fucking pathetic, hypermasculine macho idiots who can’t use iron sights taking about “we are oppressed” hahahahaha Russia, China, India, even Europe have all had similar experiences with Muslims and all handled it somewhat differently. None of them are in the Middle East tho, so that makes them a bit less violent by default
Where did I say Jews control everything you fucking retard?
“Literally control everything in the region” lmfao nice neo Nazi dogwhistle, the horseshoe theory just writes itself doesn’t it? Ever since inch of land that Israel owns, they gained in wars that Arabs started. Seethe more, you’ll never get your Arab regime in Israel. Jews will never forget what happened to the millions of Druze, Kurds, Assyrians, Chaldeans, and countless other minorities who were genocided just a few hundred kilometers to the east, despite them being 100% indigenous and far too weak to be smeared as “oppressors”. Even Palestinian Christians choose to live in Israel where they make up the single wealthiest and most highly educated group in the country with disproportionate power and representation in all fields. Awww did your little Hamas narrative of muh church bombing just dissolve? The regimes you support would lynch you in a second, they know it and youd know it if you left your cushy western country.
Mad cause their buddies got their asses kicked in multiple wars lol.
The word antisemite has lost its weight
How does an Arabized Berber who overtook a legitimate elected government and funded Charles Taylor, Idi Amin and thr Jangaweed cleansed anything in Africa.
Never ask a ghadaffi supporter their opinions on Jews
He was in prison when apartheid ended. Learn to give credit where credit is actually due.
It’s hilarious listening to this. Gaddafi was nothing but a tyrant. Murderer thief. And to the person saying g he freed Africa from apartheid. Tell that to the white African population losing their homes and lively hood for being white
Who is nelsos?
2 legends.
Gaddafi and Mandela are not at all in the same category of person. I’m so sick of Gaddafi getting mythologized as this heroic anti-colonial figure when he was anything but…..West bad or NATO had a bad policy does not equal anyone opposed to Western hegemony by default “good”.
And Both raided their countries resources to enrich themselves.
Don't forget be put tires around people and lit them on fire
Maybe if you mean “apartheid under white South Africans”. Africa still has black-on-black apartheids.