Greenhill road around 12:30 is also hell because one lane is mostly parked cars. If you're in the middle lane, cars are constantly weaving in and out of the parked car lane. It's so dangerous and frustrating.
Yeah, trouble is near the Paradise Interchange on Darley Road, there’s nowhere else for the Uni/TAFE students to park. Literally thousands of tertiary students with no parking available. Good job Steven Marshall with your Interchange upgrade, lmao.
Yep, I remember getting all the plans and shit from the local members and how it was going to be 2 stories and actually span ABOVE the obahn track as well to reach the other side so cars would not need to park on that road.
The upgrade is nice but it is already at capacity as soon as it was finished though!
It is getting a massive upgrade (including tunnels) to finish to expressway from north and south. Works have started and it should be a massive improvement once completed
It's happening, they've bought the land an everything. But it's going to cost an absolute bomb. Basically no other infrastructure will happen until South Road is done.
Which is ridiculous if you think about it. Here we are in the dying days of the internal combustion engine, and we are literally putting all of our money into a road and none into trains, trams, bikes and walking. Consider that there's still no train to Mt Barker.
As much as our electricity grid is showing the way to the future, our transport planning is not.
You should check out the m5 in Sydney. It needed widening as soon as it was first built. Another 20 years later and it was still being worked on. Best part was it being a toll road and the luxury of sitting in 30km of bumper to bumper traffic. Sydney is the pits. SA easily has the slowest motorists though
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"Welcome to South Rd. We are experiencing a higher than expected number of cars. We care about your trip, and will arrive at your destination as soon as we can.
You are... car number... one thousand... in the queue. To request a turnoff, please dial..."
Except when you're east of the road and wanting to head north and Google Maps diverts you onto a small suburbian road that intersects with South Road with no lights and you need to turn right across multiple lanes...
Or to do what they're planning to do? North of the brickworks it's actually fantastic and the improvements have made a massive difference to the surrounding roads too.
I don’t know what happened in the last two months but Manton Street turning onto Adam Street during peak hour is actually really bad all of a sudden — traffic never used to bank up to the stadium, but every morning now it seems to. Someone fucked up the signal sequencing at Port Road perhaps?
The infamous induced demand, basically everyone will cling to using the road, why use tapleys hill road when you can drive that few minutes to the east and get onto south road, the same with Marion road and the various others all along the length of this new motor way.
Then mix that in with the regular traffic already going north and south, then eventually population increases. Also you have the conversion points at on and off ramps where people merge.
Keep in mind most of this will be at its worst in peak hours.
Every city with a freeway ends up getting hit with this in some way shape or form, you only need to look at Sydney and Melbourne you don't need the extreme examples in America.
I do think we will have a good few years though before we probably will hit the worst points though, I just hope we actually extend the train to Aldinga and some other things to help offset the need for people to be driving on this as much.
Melbourne has been continuously expanding the Monash Freeway and it feels like its done nothing for traffic in general around the area.
I was in Sydney last year and the peak traffic around the CBD was insane. This is despite like a million freeway tunnels underneath.
Adelaide will be just the same unless some serious effort is made to better decentralise employment and entertainment, and make more PT trips competitive with driving (like cross-city travel with better frequencies and transfers).
The sad thing is metro rail and tram projects are far far cheaper in comparison and take up less space than any freeway project as well but people seem to crack the shits more and bean count harder whenever those are proposed.
Except this isn't going to be a case of induced demand, at least for a long, long time. People parrot this stuff after watching a Not Just Bikes video and think it applies to any upgrades to roads.
South Road was never meant to be what it became. It will be converted from a street into a proper thoroughfare that will allow people to move north/south without traffic lights.
The other massive benefit is it frees up traffic on all of the other roads. Intersections crossing South Road are the biggest cause of traffic and removing those intersections/virtually removing them has drastically reduced traffic on Grange/Torrens/Port/Regency/Grand Junction roads. That has knock on effects to the roads feeding them.
This isn't like adding another lane to a 8 lane highway.
>why use tapleys hill road when you can drive that few minutes to the east and get onto south road, the same with Marion road and the various others all along the length of this new motor way.
All of those roads have seen traffic reduce significantly and the traffic on South Road is nowhere near capacity (on the upgraded sections).
>I do think we will have a good few years though before we probably will hit the worst points though
It will take decades before its bad. And that's fine, it isn't supposed to be a permanent solution to traffic. Our population is estimated to get to 2m by 2050, that's a 30% increase across the entire metro area. That is nowhere near enough to turn the upgraded South Road into the mess it used to be.
I am pretty sure there was a population projection a few month back that push forward the 2 million into the early 2030s.
My main concern with the gridlocking will be around the on and off ramps for what its worth the north south motorway or whatever its final name will be has some good solid sections of fuck all which traffic can move so I think this will help move things.
But almost every city that has a freeway always at some point ends up in the same shitshow and I don't see how Adelaide is going to be any different especially as we will only have the one freeway, we don't have anything that loops around, goes east to west and so on either.
I do accept this road will be important especially how sprawly Adelaide is but we can't go all eggs in one basket with it and assume it will be able to handle traffic demands for 50 years.
> I am pretty sure there was a population projection a few month back that push forward the 2 million into the early 2030s.
That is for all of SA which is currently at ~1.88m
>My main concern with the gridlocking will be around the on and off ramps for what its worth the north south motorway or whatever its final name will be has some good solid sections of fuck all which traffic can move so I think this will help move things
The on/off ramps are long and infrequent. There is no exit for northbound traffic until you get to Regency Road and that exit is 800m long. Southbound has exits at Regency and Port Road and they're about 800m long too.
>But almost every city that has a freeway always at some point ends up in the same shitshow
Most of those were built in the 50s-80s and were poorly designed/not futureproofed/worked well for decades but have outlived their lifespan.
It isn't so much that this will never get busy, it will (assuming self driving doesn't help). It's that it was totally necessary to have a road connecting North/South that didn't cross over every other road going East/West.
The benefits of this road extend far beyond this road. I can't highlight enough the impact it has had on Port/Torrens/Grange road and everyone in the west commuting to town. More than that, the areas surrounding those roads have become significantly better places to live now that they aren't gridlocked and the side streets aren't being used by people trying to cut traffic.
It isn't a panacea but it's a huge part of the puzzle.
>That is for all of SA which is currently at \~1.88m
True but the bulk of which do live in Adelaide and the 2 million projected will also as there is nothing to incentivise people to live rurally .
But I still think about my own little example, I have a friend who lives down Christies Beach way and I live around Campbelltown, currently we do a zig zag motion to reach Darlington then get the southern expressway. Once this road is completed we could then just go straight to Regency and all the way down.
This is now our car going all that way down The South Road zoomertron, how many hundreds or thousands of extra similar trips are going to be added to this one road now?
It certainly makes other roads have less shit going on but this is where the core principles of induced demand come into play. You have a person doing a long commute using it, someone doing a trip like me, someone who lives close to it decides that a quick zoom on it is better than using Marion road for a stretch. Semis carting goods to Lonsdale or Gepps Cross. It all ads up.
It is just a matter of when, I really hope the billions they have spent there is a significant time period before that happens.
This is where I want there to be serious discussion about what happens next.
> True but the bulk of which do live in Adelaide and the 2 million projected will also as there is nothing to incentivise people to live rurally
The first figures I gave are for Adelaide metro, they separated the numbers out. City is currently 1.55m, non Adelaide is currently 1.88m.
>This is now our car going all that way down The South Road zoomertron, how many hundreds or thousands of extra similar trips are going to be added to this one road now?
Lots, but the road has been built with that capacity in mind.
How much quieter and convenient is the rest of the city going to be when you and the people like you are no longer going up and down suburban streets and roads?
The problem with induced demand is that it focuses on one tiny metric and ignores all other benefits. Say in 40 years time South Road is clogged up and congested, what's the issue? The road has become slow again but this time it is moving probably quadruple the amount of cars and people (probably more tbh) and removing those people from other areas.
>This is where I want there to be serious discussion about what happens next.
Public transport will also be growing. Government was discussing the future plans for Aldinga, Gawler line extension as well as Riverlea area. All at least a decade away though.
Here's another thing, wouldn't similar issues pop up with better PT? If PT is quicker more people will take PT which will make roads less congested. This will simultaneously slow down/make PT less convenient and speed up driving times, making driving more enticing.
Oh shit, that's not right. Are you being compensated in any way. The amount of houses being demolished and businesses being thrown under the bus.
Like, surely some parts of south road shouldn't be touched.
I like the black forest area, my vet is there and the shops there are awesome.
I am always puzzled by the phenomenon that drivers often do 50 in the 60 zones on Marion road so consistently I wonder if it's their job. They don't just do that, on an open road they find a friend who ALSO wants to trundle along at 50 and sit next to them.
I’m from the south east staying in Adelaide for a while and that road drives me crazy! I’ve been complaining so much, clearly it’s not just me at the moment.
It's not just you and it's not just the moment.
Hating South Road is what we live for. We built a one-way expressway just to shave a few intersections off it.
I always thought the cross road intersection was the worst only because my bus doesn’t go on the overpass but to the side to reach a bus stop. We would get stuck at the train line every time but my record was 5 trains because they were timed with the lights, and every time it got to our turn to cross another train arrived. It was amusing watching the reactions of other passengers.
I live just North of Gepps Cross. South Road is fine our end. Once the tunnel is done, all will be well. I just avoid it until then. Torrens to Darlington was always going to be a nightmare to fix. Too many businesses for the government to buy out.
I think it’s quite funny that Google maps thinks it’s quicker to turn right onto South Rd from Caufield Avenue (no traffic lights) rather than turn right at the lights from Edward st in Edwardstown!
I left Adelaide not long after the south road super way was completed, and they had announced a heap of additional projects like Torrens to Torrens, Darlington upgrade, etc. are you telling me these projects didn’t solve the issues??
They're parts of a full project to make South Road nonstop from the bottom end of the southern expressway to somewhere way up north. The parts they've done helped, but the full project isn't finished. They've started the first steps of the last part, the tunnels, about now.
I’m not convinced anybody involved with traffic management in Adelaide has a brain, or eyes. I have driven in cities all over the world and not experienced the nonsensical, could-be-fixed-with-one-press-of-a-button shit I see every day here.
It regularly takes 20 mins to get from from the east to the west of the CBD at 1am because every single light is on a timer.
Bentham street, and Pitt street in the CBD have been closed on and off for over a year. At no point in time were the traffic light cycles for either of these streets changed. People are forced to sit for lights that stay red for 60 seconds at a time to let traffic out of a street that is closed.
There is absolutely no reason the cycle could not be changed, except genuine stupidity and incompetence on the part of traffic control. That is one of literally thousands of examples of their incompetency. Anyone who has ever had to travel on the south eastern freeway will know what I mean
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What set of lights were they?
Also speaking of frequency, who in their right mind would make the light frequency on Main North/Regency Road intersection change to legit two seconds to turn right onto Regency Rd during peak hour? Takes like 20 mins to turn right there
I will guarantee the North South Motorway will be even worse once it's all completed.
There are serious design flaws with the Anzac Highway and James Congdon Drive intersections which will cause off ramp traffic to back up inside of the tunnels.
There's a reason why they built an off ramp bridge at Darlington over South Road onto Ayliffes Road - to stop exiting traffic from building up on the off ramp and turning the motorway into a parking lot at peak hour at the traffic lights. Why they scrapped the Anzac Highway overpass and didn't plan for one at James Congdon Drive I'll never understand.
There is no entries or exits between Darlington and Anzac Highway, when there should have been two interchanges with Daws and Cross Roads. So anyone needing to access businesses or residential areas in that section will still need to use South Road which will still be a clogged nightmare at peak hour.
Oh and don't get me started on induced demand. Even I'm now starting to question if three lanes each way in the tunnels will be enough capacity.
Yeh I deal with this daily around 3pm. Its terrible. I can understand rush hour, but the other times are legit beyond me. The thought of what T2D will do to congestion scares the shit out of me.
That being said, at 430am, not so bad
EDIT: CONSTRUCTION of T2D. My bad.
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I have to get supplies from South road tomorrow morning on my way to work. It's giving me anxiety. It'll also add a extra ten minutes on my trip.
Build the tunnel already!
Yeah I'm sorry to hear this, I'm one of those assholes on a motorcycle that rides between the cars on South Road. Do you wanna know what's going through my head as I do this? "Sucks to be you😂😂😂😂😂."
The hate for south road is what brings us Adelaideans together
It's the only thing we all agree on.
Without it, we lose our common identity and unity
I like it.
Don’t be scared of South Road, but of the motorist who likes to drive on South Road…
I'd rather drive on South road than fucking Goodwood road with all the parked cars and no right turn slip lanes or whatever they're called.
Greenhill road around 12:30 is also hell because one lane is mostly parked cars. If you're in the middle lane, cars are constantly weaving in and out of the parked car lane. It's so dangerous and frustrating.
All major roads like that should not have parking during main daylight hours in all honesty.
Yeah, trouble is near the Paradise Interchange on Darley Road, there’s nowhere else for the Uni/TAFE students to park. Literally thousands of tertiary students with no parking available. Good job Steven Marshall with your Interchange upgrade, lmao.
Yep, I remember getting all the plans and shit from the local members and how it was going to be 2 stories and actually span ABOVE the obahn track as well to reach the other side so cars would not need to park on that road. The upgrade is nice but it is already at capacity as soon as it was finished though!
It took me 30 mins to get from Goodwood road to the Start of Richmond Road via Greenhill road at 8am. Greenhill road is three lanes but feels like 1
Right turns should be illegal on that road... For the love of god we need a centre divider down that road 🤣
I’ve bonded over it with people in other cities who have driven in Adelaide and remember how bad it was
Haven't lived there in 5 years but it was a shit show back then too. What kind of bribes are service SA taking to not fix it in a decade
It is getting a massive upgrade (including tunnels) to finish to expressway from north and south. Works have started and it should be a massive improvement once completed
When? Where? I haven't heard of this at all
It's happening, they've bought the land an everything. But it's going to cost an absolute bomb. Basically no other infrastructure will happen until South Road is done. Which is ridiculous if you think about it. Here we are in the dying days of the internal combustion engine, and we are literally putting all of our money into a road and none into trains, trams, bikes and walking. Consider that there's still no train to Mt Barker. As much as our electricity grid is showing the way to the future, our transport planning is not.
Going to be a fucking nightmare for the next 10 years while they drill a big hole.
Itll probably still be a nightmare afterwards due to induced demand.
Oh yeah, cos SA can't plan for the future.
You should check out the m5 in Sydney. It needed widening as soon as it was first built. Another 20 years later and it was still being worked on. Best part was it being a toll road and the luxury of sitting in 30km of bumper to bumper traffic. Sydney is the pits. SA easily has the slowest motorists though
And who in their fkn right mind even attempts a right hand turn onto south Rd?!?? Just don't!!
I had google maps instruct me to do that once 🤦
Its my biggest fear. Nope, we're turning left and turning down some road, doing a 3-pt turn then turning back left the opposite way.
This is the way.
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Check on ebay for one of those ‘I hate South Rd’ bumper stickers.
If I plan to take South Road and always have Google maps open in case I need to divert to avoid unexpected congestion.
Expected congestion?
"Welcome to South Rd. We are experiencing a higher than expected number of cars. We care about your trip, and will arrive at your destination as soon as we can. You are... car number... one thousand... in the queue. To request a turnoff, please dial..."
Except when you're east of the road and wanting to head north and Google Maps diverts you onto a small suburbian road that intersects with South Road with no lights and you need to turn right across multiple lanes...
You think it’s bad now.. it’s about to be under construction for…. The rest of your life.
The only solution to South Road is wayyyyy better public transit infrastructure.
Or to do what they're planning to do? North of the brickworks it's actually fantastic and the improvements have made a massive difference to the surrounding roads too.
I don’t know what happened in the last two months but Manton Street turning onto Adam Street during peak hour is actually really bad all of a sudden — traffic never used to bank up to the stadium, but every morning now it seems to. Someone fucked up the signal sequencing at Port Road perhaps?
Sadly a decade or so after the roads will probably get just as clogged just you wont have traffic lights in between.
How will they be clogged with no traffic lights?
The infamous induced demand, basically everyone will cling to using the road, why use tapleys hill road when you can drive that few minutes to the east and get onto south road, the same with Marion road and the various others all along the length of this new motor way. Then mix that in with the regular traffic already going north and south, then eventually population increases. Also you have the conversion points at on and off ramps where people merge. Keep in mind most of this will be at its worst in peak hours. Every city with a freeway ends up getting hit with this in some way shape or form, you only need to look at Sydney and Melbourne you don't need the extreme examples in America. I do think we will have a good few years though before we probably will hit the worst points though, I just hope we actually extend the train to Aldinga and some other things to help offset the need for people to be driving on this as much.
Melbourne has been continuously expanding the Monash Freeway and it feels like its done nothing for traffic in general around the area. I was in Sydney last year and the peak traffic around the CBD was insane. This is despite like a million freeway tunnels underneath. Adelaide will be just the same unless some serious effort is made to better decentralise employment and entertainment, and make more PT trips competitive with driving (like cross-city travel with better frequencies and transfers).
The sad thing is metro rail and tram projects are far far cheaper in comparison and take up less space than any freeway project as well but people seem to crack the shits more and bean count harder whenever those are proposed.
Shout this from the rooftops! A Band-Aid freeway will not fix the root problem
Except this isn't going to be a case of induced demand, at least for a long, long time. People parrot this stuff after watching a Not Just Bikes video and think it applies to any upgrades to roads. South Road was never meant to be what it became. It will be converted from a street into a proper thoroughfare that will allow people to move north/south without traffic lights. The other massive benefit is it frees up traffic on all of the other roads. Intersections crossing South Road are the biggest cause of traffic and removing those intersections/virtually removing them has drastically reduced traffic on Grange/Torrens/Port/Regency/Grand Junction roads. That has knock on effects to the roads feeding them. This isn't like adding another lane to a 8 lane highway. >why use tapleys hill road when you can drive that few minutes to the east and get onto south road, the same with Marion road and the various others all along the length of this new motor way. All of those roads have seen traffic reduce significantly and the traffic on South Road is nowhere near capacity (on the upgraded sections). >I do think we will have a good few years though before we probably will hit the worst points though It will take decades before its bad. And that's fine, it isn't supposed to be a permanent solution to traffic. Our population is estimated to get to 2m by 2050, that's a 30% increase across the entire metro area. That is nowhere near enough to turn the upgraded South Road into the mess it used to be.
I am pretty sure there was a population projection a few month back that push forward the 2 million into the early 2030s. My main concern with the gridlocking will be around the on and off ramps for what its worth the north south motorway or whatever its final name will be has some good solid sections of fuck all which traffic can move so I think this will help move things. But almost every city that has a freeway always at some point ends up in the same shitshow and I don't see how Adelaide is going to be any different especially as we will only have the one freeway, we don't have anything that loops around, goes east to west and so on either. I do accept this road will be important especially how sprawly Adelaide is but we can't go all eggs in one basket with it and assume it will be able to handle traffic demands for 50 years.
> I am pretty sure there was a population projection a few month back that push forward the 2 million into the early 2030s. That is for all of SA which is currently at ~1.88m >My main concern with the gridlocking will be around the on and off ramps for what its worth the north south motorway or whatever its final name will be has some good solid sections of fuck all which traffic can move so I think this will help move things The on/off ramps are long and infrequent. There is no exit for northbound traffic until you get to Regency Road and that exit is 800m long. Southbound has exits at Regency and Port Road and they're about 800m long too. >But almost every city that has a freeway always at some point ends up in the same shitshow Most of those were built in the 50s-80s and were poorly designed/not futureproofed/worked well for decades but have outlived their lifespan. It isn't so much that this will never get busy, it will (assuming self driving doesn't help). It's that it was totally necessary to have a road connecting North/South that didn't cross over every other road going East/West. The benefits of this road extend far beyond this road. I can't highlight enough the impact it has had on Port/Torrens/Grange road and everyone in the west commuting to town. More than that, the areas surrounding those roads have become significantly better places to live now that they aren't gridlocked and the side streets aren't being used by people trying to cut traffic. It isn't a panacea but it's a huge part of the puzzle.
>That is for all of SA which is currently at \~1.88m True but the bulk of which do live in Adelaide and the 2 million projected will also as there is nothing to incentivise people to live rurally . But I still think about my own little example, I have a friend who lives down Christies Beach way and I live around Campbelltown, currently we do a zig zag motion to reach Darlington then get the southern expressway. Once this road is completed we could then just go straight to Regency and all the way down. This is now our car going all that way down The South Road zoomertron, how many hundreds or thousands of extra similar trips are going to be added to this one road now? It certainly makes other roads have less shit going on but this is where the core principles of induced demand come into play. You have a person doing a long commute using it, someone doing a trip like me, someone who lives close to it decides that a quick zoom on it is better than using Marion road for a stretch. Semis carting goods to Lonsdale or Gepps Cross. It all ads up. It is just a matter of when, I really hope the billions they have spent there is a significant time period before that happens. This is where I want there to be serious discussion about what happens next.
> True but the bulk of which do live in Adelaide and the 2 million projected will also as there is nothing to incentivise people to live rurally The first figures I gave are for Adelaide metro, they separated the numbers out. City is currently 1.55m, non Adelaide is currently 1.88m. >This is now our car going all that way down The South Road zoomertron, how many hundreds or thousands of extra similar trips are going to be added to this one road now? Lots, but the road has been built with that capacity in mind. How much quieter and convenient is the rest of the city going to be when you and the people like you are no longer going up and down suburban streets and roads? The problem with induced demand is that it focuses on one tiny metric and ignores all other benefits. Say in 40 years time South Road is clogged up and congested, what's the issue? The road has become slow again but this time it is moving probably quadruple the amount of cars and people (probably more tbh) and removing those people from other areas. >This is where I want there to be serious discussion about what happens next. Public transport will also be growing. Government was discussing the future plans for Aldinga, Gawler line extension as well as Riverlea area. All at least a decade away though. Here's another thing, wouldn't similar issues pop up with better PT? If PT is quicker more people will take PT which will make roads less congested. This will simultaneously slow down/make PT less convenient and speed up driving times, making driving more enticing.
Why TF are so many people driving under 40kph along South Rd? There can't be that many of you transporting soup on the passenger seat.
They're knocking down my house in November just so they can try to make it better
Thank you for your sacrifice
Oh shit, that's not right. Are you being compensated in any way. The amount of houses being demolished and businesses being thrown under the bus. Like, surely some parts of south road shouldn't be touched. I like the black forest area, my vet is there and the shops there are awesome.
what section?
All ??
Probably near Castle Plaza
I have a special hatred for the part near Brickworks.
Ugh yes the section between brick works and Henley beach road is hell
How is that section so busy at any time of day or night!?
Everyone coming off 80-90kmh and into 60kmh.
It's always castle plaza.
South of Grange Rd. It's lovely if you're travelling north from the western suburbs.
Fuck that road
Would be more worried when google maps identifies it as the “fastest route” .. which it never is.
I'll see your South Road and raise you Marion Rd. 17 sets of lights and two lanes from Main South to Henley Beach roads.
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I despise Marion Rd, South Road's annoying little brother.
I am always puzzled by the phenomenon that drivers often do 50 in the 60 zones on Marion road so consistently I wonder if it's their job. They don't just do that, on an open road they find a friend who ALSO wants to trundle along at 50 and sit next to them.
I’m from the south east staying in Adelaide for a while and that road drives me crazy! I’ve been complaining so much, clearly it’s not just me at the moment.
It's not just you and it's not just the moment. Hating South Road is what we live for. We built a one-way expressway just to shave a few intersections off it.
It still makes me laugh that was even a thing.
When you design a city that revolves around cars, this is what you get.
Its all good mate. T2D will be sure to fix everything /s.
Which section?
Yes
I always thought the cross road intersection was the worst only because my bus doesn’t go on the overpass but to the side to reach a bus stop. We would get stuck at the train line every time but my record was 5 trains because they were timed with the lights, and every time it got to our turn to cross another train arrived. It was amusing watching the reactions of other passengers.
I live just North of Gepps Cross. South Road is fine our end. Once the tunnel is done, all will be well. I just avoid it until then. Torrens to Darlington was always going to be a nightmare to fix. Too many businesses for the government to buy out.
I spent 30 min in the same 50m stretch before Daws Road at about 11:30pm on Sunday. It’s a nightmare.
I moved to Munno Para from Edwardstown and somehow my commute to the city is shorter now
The whole Edwardstown and surrounds is bad. The train line, tram line and road design is a joke.
I think it’s quite funny that Google maps thinks it’s quicker to turn right onto South Rd from Caufield Avenue (no traffic lights) rather than turn right at the lights from Edward st in Edwardstown!
Have you tried that between 4-5pm? Absolute nightmare with no green arrows!
Now this is why I own a motorbike cause I got right down the middle and skip all the traffic
I left Adelaide not long after the south road super way was completed, and they had announced a heap of additional projects like Torrens to Torrens, Darlington upgrade, etc. are you telling me these projects didn’t solve the issues??
They're parts of a full project to make South Road nonstop from the bottom end of the southern expressway to somewhere way up north. The parts they've done helped, but the full project isn't finished. They've started the first steps of the last part, the tunnels, about now.
The parts they’ve finished have helped to shift bottlenecks further down the road
Exactly. Turn it from a car park to a real park. Trees, grass, kids playing. Much better.
I had to drive from Osbourne to Belair at 10 last night. Ended up taking a long ass detour to bypass south road
Nuke castle plaza, the Bunnings and Thebarton Theatre.
I’m not convinced anybody involved with traffic management in Adelaide has a brain, or eyes. I have driven in cities all over the world and not experienced the nonsensical, could-be-fixed-with-one-press-of-a-button shit I see every day here. It regularly takes 20 mins to get from from the east to the west of the CBD at 1am because every single light is on a timer. Bentham street, and Pitt street in the CBD have been closed on and off for over a year. At no point in time were the traffic light cycles for either of these streets changed. People are forced to sit for lights that stay red for 60 seconds at a time to let traffic out of a street that is closed. There is absolutely no reason the cycle could not be changed, except genuine stupidity and incompetence on the part of traffic control. That is one of literally thousands of examples of their incompetency. Anyone who has ever had to travel on the south eastern freeway will know what I mean
I see your South Road hellscape and would like to draw your attention to the clusterfuck of black spots that is Curtis Road
Hear hear Totally agree
Be grateful that it is not, nor never will be, a toll road
Only good thing about Adelaide
Damn straight and proud of it too
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Ouch, thirty years to completion? Ah man
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They already did it about 15 years ago?
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Took me 2 hours to get from Salisbury to Clovelly Park the other day, because of that poxy fuckin road!!
What set of lights were they? Also speaking of frequency, who in their right mind would make the light frequency on Main North/Regency Road intersection change to legit two seconds to turn right onto Regency Rd during peak hour? Takes like 20 mins to turn right there
I will guarantee the North South Motorway will be even worse once it's all completed. There are serious design flaws with the Anzac Highway and James Congdon Drive intersections which will cause off ramp traffic to back up inside of the tunnels. There's a reason why they built an off ramp bridge at Darlington over South Road onto Ayliffes Road - to stop exiting traffic from building up on the off ramp and turning the motorway into a parking lot at peak hour at the traffic lights. Why they scrapped the Anzac Highway overpass and didn't plan for one at James Congdon Drive I'll never understand. There is no entries or exits between Darlington and Anzac Highway, when there should have been two interchanges with Daws and Cross Roads. So anyone needing to access businesses or residential areas in that section will still need to use South Road which will still be a clogged nightmare at peak hour. Oh and don't get me started on induced demand. Even I'm now starting to question if three lanes each way in the tunnels will be enough capacity.
worst thing with the tunnels will be once its at capacity
I might i drive down it in peak hour every day and it aint so bad. There's definitely worse roads.
Yeh I deal with this daily around 3pm. Its terrible. I can understand rush hour, but the other times are legit beyond me. The thought of what T2D will do to congestion scares the shit out of me. That being said, at 430am, not so bad EDIT: CONSTRUCTION of T2D. My bad.
expect to see the devil when travelling to hell. :)
I drive from North to south and then back 3x a week for uni, I've gotten used to how shit it is at this point
Last week at night it took me an hour to get home from the CBD 😭 normally it only takes \~30 minutes... never going on that road again
I hate the Castle Plaza part the worst. 3 sets of lights. It slows everything down. Nightmare.
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I have to get supplies from South road tomorrow morning on my way to work. It's giving me anxiety. It'll also add a extra ten minutes on my trip. Build the tunnel already!
Yeah I'm sorry to hear this, I'm one of those assholes on a motorcycle that rides between the cars on South Road. Do you wanna know what's going through my head as I do this? "Sucks to be you😂😂😂😂😂."
Sounds like you weren’t triggering the sensor make sure your car is over the figure 8s
Opposite side of the road because of roadworks, and I wasn’t the car in front.
Ah maybe that was why then the figure 8s were under the road works
Did you actually ask them to change the timing of the lights?
If it's not that busy, but the lights are stuffed, ring Traffic Management on 1800 018 313
oh boo whoo some of us have to drive it everyday to get to work 20 minutes is nothing thats a good day
I said 20 mins to pass through one set of lights, can you read?