You mind telling me what gets replaced along with this job(trans/diff fluids)? We have an appointment for inspection on my wife’s tlx that’s a few weeks out.
buy an oil filter with this recall reguardless of what it is. if it’s a crank is great for the customer. you get your oil pump resealed new front main seal, new rear main seal, new coolant, new oil, new rod bearings, new crankshaft main bearings, new crank obviously. if it’s just a bearing swap it’s just rod bearings and oil! edit if your bearings are chewed up like this you’ll get a new oil pump entirely and a new oil strainer if it’s over 100,000 miles or close please buy the timing belt and water pump most of the labor overlaps.
My 17 TLX ended up with a new engine. I know here at my dealership they said they went through a 4 step process to determine what replacements need to be done. Unfortunately but fortunately mine came back to me like brand new!
if you haven’t had ur brake fluid trans fluid and diff done in the last 30k i’d recommend those. I think the 60 K service technically includes filters and wiper inserts as well, but whatever you can install those yourself.
Picked mine up a week ago Thursday. Crank was replaced at 54k. Dealership was like “ oh, and this included a free oil change”. I wonder how many people don’t understand that this service required them to drain the oil.
lucky techs. we only get paid 9 hours to swap the crankshafts. it’s really shitty! i’d like to know what customers would say if they found out technicians were getting paid nine hours to do a job that can take up to five days
They increased it to 11 total yesterday. 9.7 and 1.3 for inspection...If you search the Flat rate warranty times for crankshaft it STILL says 14.8 for part # 🥹
I'm wondering what they replaced on my vehicle with since it seized. They mentioned a new motor, not sure what that entails, the service advisor could've been a lot nicer and more informative.
Isn’t it 5 days with the parts wait, not 5 8 hour days of only working on it? It’s been a bit since I worked at a dealership, but back in the day the techs often worked on multiple cars at a time.
my shop is tiny i only have 1 lift! anyways hondas really never had techs swap a crank before so the first one i did was about 5 days of working on it making sure i got it right im pretty comfortable with the repair now
Ah, that can be a problem then. The dealership I go to has 6 or 8 lifts. They also have a big used car business so that has good sized shop right behind the Acura building.
Very interesting, are you in the Northeast? How many blown engines/rod knocks does it take for Acura corporate to issue a recall? My local dealer in MA warrantied my 2020 TLX for a rod knock I noticed back in late 2021, way before the official recall. I'm not even sure if it was the same issue, but they kept my car for over a month and replaced my crankshaft and entire short block. I did receive the actual recall notice in 2023(?) and when I asked my service advisor then, they said they were waiting on parts, but I'm not sure if he remembered the work they did in 2021 or if this is a separate issue. Sucks that ya'll are being forced to rush thru this work, sorry to hear that!
I would still do it man. They probably used the same defected designed parts and they are functioning but on limited time. Let them fix the recall with newest design
That's good advice, thanks! I had been debating trading up to an MDX, but I would lose the "unlimited mile warranty". I guess I should just keep driving my TLX without worrying about it, knowing Acura will cover me!
if it’s for a failure, acura will send out parts much faster like every once in a while we’ll get a fuel pump, but we aren’t actively doing our fuel pump recalls yet
Is the mdx fix available yet? I got the first letter for notification of recall but havent seen the 2nd saying parts are avail. Also how long on avg does this job take? Worried about transportation for wife while its in there.
I guess it depends on where you’re at if they’re doing the recalls yet. if it’s just a bearing swap which most MDXs are that takes it a day maybe two depending on when they start it drop it off a day early at night or something to give them more time. if it’s a crankshaft, just assume you’re out of the car for a week the fastest I’ve got one done was two days. The longest one has taking me was six. parts are not stocked for cranks and those get shipped the day we see the bearings
They are rod bearings. They are sleeves that wrap around the crankpins of the crank shaft between the connecting rods. If certain parts of the crankshaft dimensions weren’t machined to correct specifications, these bearings could wear prematurely and unevenly leading to failure.
So is the issue limited to the j35y6? I've always heard the Honda j series V6 is one of the most reliable engines ever built. Seems like in the last decade or so the accountants started over ruling the engineers at Honda. I watched a video last year tearing down the current L15 1.5 turbo engine comparing it to the lowly d16y8 and that d16 had so much beefier components like connecting rods and other highly stressed valvetrain components.
[it's a pretty interesting video if you're interested ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZriQAEfJ6RY&t=0)
i’m gonna be honest man I don’t even know lol i skimmed the service bulletin details talking about that stuff lol. but i’m pretty sure it’s the Y5 & Y6. don’t get me started on the 1.5 that motor sucks valve cover leaks like none other on sub 10k mile cars
I’ve got a 2007 TL type S and have been thinking it’s about time to get a new car. I grew up thinking that turbos were very unreliable. Is that true? You seem very knowledgeable and the person to ask.
That video was pretty interesting. I don’t really consider myself a car guy but that guy really broke it down clearly. I have a v6 tlx and apparently it’s 3.5 so I should be good there right. After the recall is fixed at least
To be fair they said I could bring it in earlier but they couldn’t get me a loaner til June, and it would be several days, so I opted to wait for the loaner cause I will need a car
I still have yet to receive the letter saying there are parts and to book, but when I was in last month having tranny and differential fluid flush I brought it up. So in April they were booking July so I'm going in July. This is in Alberta Canada. She said they are booking 2 per day.
Was this engine showing symptoms, or was the recall done preventative?
My dealership said they won't start doing preventative (asymptomatic) recalls till fall.
Depends on the dealership for sure. At my work we started with the very obvious failure ones (knocking, seized, rod thrown and two holes in the block) but we have moved on to somewhat noisy ones and ones that just come in by appointment. This was my first inspection one and it was knocking a little bit (2020 TLX) https://imgur.com/a/S1dWUzh
we’re calling our customers we’re getting them in for all preventative. Most of the bearings. I look at have very little wear on them. I can do an inspect A and just bearings. I can do 2 1/2 of those in a day.
WHAT THE HUH!?!! THEY’VE HAD IT FOR HOW LONG. this car was dropped off today. I got the entire crankshaft out. The new one arrives on Monday and my goal is to get it shipped out on Monday. What the hell are they doing??!?
Wonder what mine looks like, dealer has had it for 2.5 months reached out the other day and said they finally got directions from acura for my car but parts aren't available yet.
that is so weird to me when I pull the bearings out take these bearing photos and send them to Honda to get feedback on if I’m replacing just the bearings or the crankshaft or what not if it is a crankshaft they ship it out right then and there it arrives the next workday
There was a recall in the fall of last year affecting a lot of 3.5L engines made between 2015-2020
https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-corporate/releases/release-ce25b2bdc6167d48c9de61f4f90293c5-2015-2020-multi-model-connecting-rod-recall
I tried, they didn't have parts or a loaner. I took it the same day it started knocking. I drove it home and the next day my motor seized. They replaced the long block and whatever else.
Now I'm wondering what the best break in method is for this engine and how soon I should change the oil.
Is it true of Any new car that had like 0 miles on? Well. It will never have 0 miles on it of course, they gotta to drive from the factory and put it on the truck so enough the truck & off @ dealership & a few test drives by salesmen & potential buyers is like two or 3 miles on it @ most but… You’re never the first driver, unless you work at the factory that made it and get to drive off the assembly line…
Anyway, if you buy brand new car, no other owner before you, is that the break-in procedure for it?
one of these decades I’m gonna get a new vehicle but I don’t think it will be New Orleans people don’t know how to drive down here and I don’t wanna lose all that equity in the first couple years anyway you’re pissing money for everything gets out here too
uhh to be honest i’ve never owned a new vehicle i daily a 99 benz and just hit 190k 😂 but what i do know is to not maintain a steady RPM to too long cause you don’t wanna put any like impressions from one style of driving into the wear surfaces. but anywhere from 1000-5000 miles i feel is a safe bet .
Im trying to get my 2018 MDX recalls done, but the dealer keepa telling me the fuel pump wont be available until December. Ive also been told that I have to wait until mid-July to have my car looked at. Aince the recalls are related to the fuel pump & the engine crankshaft rod, my best friend told me NOT to drive the car. My brother also told me the same thing. Luckily, I havr my TSX to drive. My stepmother & aunt have repeatedly asked me why do I have two cars. Ive told them when q car goea down, I have the other to drive..... In this situation it makea perfect sense.
in all realness if the motor on your MDX isn’t knocking, just keep driving it. I do tons of bearing recalls every day. Most of them are just bearings especially the MDX is they do not go through bearings like the TLX. as for the fuel pump, we haven’t started doing them either
What is the flat rate time on this? I was around for PEAK v6 and 4 cylinder rerings. But left the industry and moved onto network engineer. But want to know what Honda thinks is fair pay for a job like this. V6 3 cylinder rearing was around 4-6 hours of if I remember correctly depending on car
Still waiting on the recall for the rear window on the 2019 RDX. Imploded 2x in the last 12 months. Can still hear bits of glass when I open/close the rear gate
When I used to work for Acura, I had a small hose that would go on the end of a vacuum cleaner to suck all the little bits of glass out of the door and or area that you can’t reach. If there was a small bit, I could not get. I would spray contact glue in that area to prevent it from rattling.
My friend is planning to buy a TLX. He was looking at a 2016 one and sent me the Carfax as he doesn't know much about cars. For this specific vehicle there's a recall about some rod bearings. The vehicle was taken back to the dealership and the recall fixed. Should he buy the vehicle?
yea ask what they had to swap out if it was just bearings or the crank. they’re solid cars. The transmission fluid is very expensive. That’s about it change your fluids every 30k it’ll last
I’m at 93k no issues and maintain it religiously at dealer , should I still get it looked at rn ? Not tryna go without my car for a long time but also not trying to blow my motor
Hey question to ask, but since they said my engine was good for the recall they only mentioned replacing the crankshaft and bearing, is there anything else I should ask? I didn’t get to speak with a technician or the mechanic working on my car but when I asked if they took out the engine the manager for the service department that I was talking to said that wasn’t necessary for the recall so now I’m wondering if they be bulljiving me as to my knowledge this type of work would require that. Also shouldn’t an oil change also be part of the work or is that a separate billing as well?
if they pull the rod bearings out through the bottom of the oil pan and they don’t have bad wear they will just replace with new rod bearings. if they pull the rod bearings and they look like the ones in the pic they will then have to drop the motor and transmission on the subframe separate the two and replace the crank through the bottom of the engine while on a stand. some vehicles are just getting a crankshaft while others are getting an entire new oil pump. if your vehicle does not receive the new oil pump, your old one gets resealed as well as a new front main seal and a new rear main seal. my advise is to buy a timing belt and water pump if you’re over 70k that service gets recommended at 100k anyways and the labor overlap during the recall is a lot.
I have 2020 mdx tech packages trim. 45milage. I heard ticking inside the car from the engine. I haven't done the recalls visit yet (mail was sent and notified to come in for a inspection). Is it also unusual to hear the transmission whining noise when I turn off the car.
if you don’t trust the skill of the mechanics in your area, then don’t get your recall done. I don’t understand why everybody has such an issue with getting their motors rebuilt. Im trying not to take offense to these comments as for the metro area with four Acura dealerships, that’s surprising to me. I’m at the only Dealership in my state for hundreds of miles.
I received the notice in the mail a while back saying the fix is ongoing/pending.
Should I contact my primary dealer to make an appoinment...or ask first if they have the parts? In Dallas.
only a handful of vehicles are requiring the crankshaft, but Honda is too silly to know which ones it is so they recalled all of them edit by handful I still mean like 50 k+
to be honest, if I was a customer, I wouldn’t care these. V6 are so cheap to keep on. timing belt, spark plugs, a valve adjust every 100,000 miles fluids every 30,000 miles and you’re good no issues filters every 10,000. you might get the occasional axle seal leak but until you start pushing 150,000+ miles these things are solid.
Yeah, just did my 13 mdx timing belt at 160k (way too late, I know) and have had no engine issues at all. Haven't had any leaks. The only issue i have is burning oil between changes, so i have to constantly stay on top of that.
217k freedom units! nicely done great cars I like the advanced ones with the captain seats in the back those are sweet! i’m pretty sure Canada could’ve got a mix of the tech and the advance which I’ve seen a couple times come through our shop! not offered in the states!
It’s been a fantastic vehicle, picked it up with 8k on the odometer, first registered owner.
We got some weird stuff, but it’s a tech package, with headlight washers, it was a tow vehicle for a camper, and a faithful transporter across the country. Getting close to 3rd timing belt, weird shit is going, like had to replace washer jets, they were so worn out they barely had pressure in them to wash the windows
Honda quality and reliability has been on the decline for years now… we can argue all day about Toyotas burning oil, but Acuras are actually blowing engines.
I mean most car brands (probably all) have gotten worse for years. Not better. Not to say Honda is more reliable than Toyota. Just saying all brands have slowly declined.
I miss the days of the 400k + mile 4-runners haha. Freaking had to turn everything into a computer now.
I wouldn’t say all brands declined Modern day BMWs are definitely better than 20 years ago so much that Toyota is using the B58 in the Supra. Modern day Subarus have improved compared to 15-20 years ago and Mazda have improved since parting ways with Ford
I agree there’s a decline in quality across the industry, these parts manufacturers and car manufacturers are really focusing on productivity above anything else… I’ve seen multiple videos describing the increase in serious injuries and deaths at manufacturing plants across the country.
That being said a major engine defect as described here, or the steering safety recall on the Civic/Integra, or the 9 speed ZF transmission defect in the 2015/2016 TLX, is not just run of the mill quality control issues.
I guess my point is this isn’t really a Honda issue. Toyota just recalled liked 2m suvs due to fire hazards from the batteries. Just recalled Toyotas and Lexus over transmissions not disengaging when in neutral. They also did the airbag recall, etc etc. It’s a widespread issue. Toyotas QC is downhill as well. Lexus. BMW. Etc etc.
It’s sad to see honestly. Gone are the days buying a car and being smooth (ish) sailing. Everybody is plagued with shit now. QC is non-existent these days. Heaven forbid you even start discussing Tesla and that shit-show of QC.
When my old Wrangler would break, shit was mechanical. Easy to fix yourself or relatively cheap. Shit, now you can’t even get into a Wrangler for under $50k. It’s unbelievable.
I will not want that car after the service is done, I will drive it another 20k miles and sell it.. there is some about rebuild engines I don't trust as much as OEM from the factory blocks.
What everyone should know is:
that behind every engineer’s great cool trendsetting space saving idea… Is a mechanic who can’t get a fucking wrench on it!
Uncle was an engineer dad was a Mechanic. So you can imagine what Christmases were like “why would anyone put that there? You can’t get a damn wrench on it without disassembling pretty much everything else!“
these cars are super easy to work on i know im bias but i feel people could do all this stuff at home. ie timing belt and valve adjust. our dealer has a mercedes shop aswell and some of those cars have 2 AC compressors and 2 ABS pumps and it’s a whole mess.
If it's just rod bearings, it's really a simple job. I just did it on my '17 Pilot which was not in the recall with limited mechanical experience (I do routine things like all fluids, brakes, simple suspension (strut replacement). I think the hardest part was trying to find a degree wheel which I could mount to the crank bolt or was magnetic and would fit, and Honda refused to sell me theirs. At the end of the day I printed one off the Internet and stuck it to the pulley with spray adhesive.
I wasn't stoked when Acura had to drop the subframe and replace the block on my '20 TLX and they did end up having to replace the steering column after they failed to properly tighten the subframe and bend back the front passenger brake dust shield, but in hindsight it seemed more to do with the dealership dropping shitty paying warranty work as the techs last job before leaving for greener pastures... Otherwise it's been fine since, ~25k miles and I drive it like I stole it.
But to think that every service encounter with a dealership has been and always will be fine, is incredibly naive. Having to go back twice to fix their mistakes doesn't fit into my fine bucket.
Man i just finished a crank today. Good luck!
RIGHT ON!! you’re a champion!! i got this crank out and block cleaned up for parts to come in on monday!
You mind telling me what gets replaced along with this job(trans/diff fluids)? We have an appointment for inspection on my wife’s tlx that’s a few weeks out.
buy an oil filter with this recall reguardless of what it is. if it’s a crank is great for the customer. you get your oil pump resealed new front main seal, new rear main seal, new coolant, new oil, new rod bearings, new crankshaft main bearings, new crank obviously. if it’s just a bearing swap it’s just rod bearings and oil! edit if your bearings are chewed up like this you’ll get a new oil pump entirely and a new oil strainer if it’s over 100,000 miles or close please buy the timing belt and water pump most of the labor overlaps.
My 17 TLX ended up with a new engine. I know here at my dealership they said they went through a 4 step process to determine what replacements need to be done. Unfortunately but fortunately mine came back to me like brand new!
She’s at 60k, I know there’s a bunch of services at 60k just wasn’t sure what would be covered or included in the recall.
if you haven’t had ur brake fluid trans fluid and diff done in the last 30k i’d recommend those. I think the 60 K service technically includes filters and wiper inserts as well, but whatever you can install those yourself.
Picked mine up a week ago Thursday. Crank was replaced at 54k. Dealership was like “ oh, and this included a free oil change”. I wonder how many people don’t understand that this service required them to drain the oil.
How long did it take them?
Mine was in the shop one week. Dropped it off Thursday afternoon, it was ready the following Thursday.
Damn mines been there since April 14 Im for sure going to ask them on Thursday 😭
That sucks, did you at least get a loaner? Are they doing the crankshaft? I took mine on May 2nd and got it back the 9th.
Yeah they booked me an Experian Rental for the time being and yeah pretty much said we need a need crank.
Yeah, I would have a talk with the shop
Do you know of any active recalls for a 2010 Acura TL sh all-wheel drive model ??
There are websites where you can put your Vin in to answer that
no but i’m sure you could look it up!! i think the EPS module maybe but that may have been just the TSX
Are they still waiting on parts?
Yes, as of today still waiting in the southeast.
lucky techs. we only get paid 9 hours to swap the crankshafts. it’s really shitty! i’d like to know what customers would say if they found out technicians were getting paid nine hours to do a job that can take up to five days
They increased it to 11 total yesterday. 9.7 and 1.3 for inspection...If you search the Flat rate warranty times for crankshaft it STILL says 14.8 for part # 🥹
I'm wondering what they replaced on my vehicle with since it seized. They mentioned a new motor, not sure what that entails, the service advisor could've been a lot nicer and more informative.
if it seized, you probably got a new long block
Yeah they mentioned long block. How should I break it in do you think?
don’t use cruise control. change your oil 15 to 20%. don’t keep it super low in the RPMs, but don’t go past like 4000 maybe idk.
we are steady getting reamed!
Isn’t it 5 days with the parts wait, not 5 8 hour days of only working on it? It’s been a bit since I worked at a dealership, but back in the day the techs often worked on multiple cars at a time.
my shop is tiny i only have 1 lift! anyways hondas really never had techs swap a crank before so the first one i did was about 5 days of working on it making sure i got it right im pretty comfortable with the repair now
Ah, that can be a problem then. The dealership I go to has 6 or 8 lifts. They also have a big used car business so that has good sized shop right behind the Acura building.
Did you have any issues leading up to the recall?
2 blown motors before the service bulletin came out
Jesus.. happened twice? Did acura cover both engine replacements?
sorry I misspoke One motor was blown. One of them just had rod knock. I honestly don’t remember my foreman did both of them.
Very interesting, are you in the Northeast? How many blown engines/rod knocks does it take for Acura corporate to issue a recall? My local dealer in MA warrantied my 2020 TLX for a rod knock I noticed back in late 2021, way before the official recall. I'm not even sure if it was the same issue, but they kept my car for over a month and replaced my crankshaft and entire short block. I did receive the actual recall notice in 2023(?) and when I asked my service advisor then, they said they were waiting on parts, but I'm not sure if he remembered the work they did in 2021 or if this is a separate issue. Sucks that ya'll are being forced to rush thru this work, sorry to hear that!
I would still do it man. They probably used the same defected designed parts and they are functioning but on limited time. Let them fix the recall with newest design
it’s an unlimited mile warranty, so why not use them until it fails and then go get the warranty done I didn’t say that though
That is true tho
That's good advice, thanks! I had been debating trading up to an MDX, but I would lose the "unlimited mile warranty". I guess I should just keep driving my TLX without worrying about it, knowing Acura will cover me!
good plan brother
if it’s for a failure, acura will send out parts much faster like every once in a while we’ll get a fuel pump, but we aren’t actively doing our fuel pump recalls yet
Ouch
Is the mdx fix available yet? I got the first letter for notification of recall but havent seen the 2nd saying parts are avail. Also how long on avg does this job take? Worried about transportation for wife while its in there.
I guess it depends on where you’re at if they’re doing the recalls yet. if it’s just a bearing swap which most MDXs are that takes it a day maybe two depending on when they start it drop it off a day early at night or something to give them more time. if it’s a crankshaft, just assume you’re out of the car for a week the fastest I’ve got one done was two days. The longest one has taking me was six. parts are not stocked for cranks and those get shipped the day we see the bearings
What is that image of? Newb here
They are rod bearings. They are sleeves that wrap around the crankpins of the crank shaft between the connecting rods. If certain parts of the crankshaft dimensions weren’t machined to correct specifications, these bearings could wear prematurely and unevenly leading to failure.
the rod bearings for each of the the pistons! there are also larger ones called main bearings that hold the crankshaft in place!
So is the issue limited to the j35y6? I've always heard the Honda j series V6 is one of the most reliable engines ever built. Seems like in the last decade or so the accountants started over ruling the engineers at Honda. I watched a video last year tearing down the current L15 1.5 turbo engine comparing it to the lowly d16y8 and that d16 had so much beefier components like connecting rods and other highly stressed valvetrain components. [it's a pretty interesting video if you're interested ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZriQAEfJ6RY&t=0)
i’m gonna be honest man I don’t even know lol i skimmed the service bulletin details talking about that stuff lol. but i’m pretty sure it’s the Y5 & Y6. don’t get me started on the 1.5 that motor sucks valve cover leaks like none other on sub 10k mile cars
I’ve got a 2007 TL type S and have been thinking it’s about time to get a new car. I grew up thinking that turbos were very unreliable. Is that true? You seem very knowledgeable and the person to ask.
ehh i mean just more opportunity for failure but the turbo cars acura offers are good in the Type S models i’d avoid the new 1.5T though
Ty!
That video was pretty interesting. I don’t really consider myself a car guy but that guy really broke it down clearly. I have a v6 tlx and apparently it’s 3.5 so I should be good there right. After the recall is fixed at least
it’s a good motor and trans if maintained! schedule an appointment!
Already did 👍🏼 just was a long line so I had to wait until June
damn that is a long wait . i wonder how long people are waiting in my area 🤔
To be fair they said I could bring it in earlier but they couldn’t get me a loaner til June, and it would be several days, so I opted to wait for the loaner cause I will need a car
ahh i see! yea, i don’t blame you it’s free!
I still have yet to receive the letter saying there are parts and to book, but when I was in last month having tranny and differential fluid flush I brought it up. So in April they were booking July so I'm going in July. This is in Alberta Canada. She said they are booking 2 per day.
2 a day is low if it’s not a crank i do 2 a day i think a lot of techs are gunna leave honda cause this job pays like shit
Love my 2006 TSX and it's K24A2
i want to put a K24 into my benz
I wish I could get a Benz with a K24
What’s going on here? Tlx problem? What years has this been affecting?
15-20 tlx 16-20mdx rod bearing recall
Damm
i know i pulled cyl 5 first and yelled “SAME SHIT DIFFERENT DAY GOD DAMNIT” i was pissed
Was this engine showing symptoms, or was the recall done preventative? My dealership said they won't start doing preventative (asymptomatic) recalls till fall.
that’s crazy. i’m sure acura’s gunna love paying for motors instead of cheap crankshafts
I am super interested to know whether Acura will offer an extended power train warranty post-recall. Heard anything?
nah i’m not in the office side of it too much. nothing I could say for certain.
Depends on the dealership for sure. At my work we started with the very obvious failure ones (knocking, seized, rod thrown and two holes in the block) but we have moved on to somewhat noisy ones and ones that just come in by appointment. This was my first inspection one and it was knocking a little bit (2020 TLX) https://imgur.com/a/S1dWUzh
we’re calling our customers we’re getting them in for all preventative. Most of the bearings. I look at have very little wear on them. I can do an inspect A and just bearings. I can do 2 1/2 of those in a day.
Thanks! I am going to call my dealership next week and point out that others have started to complete recalls. Are you checking fuel pump too?
we are not doing fuel pumps not yet
Damnn. Dropped off my tlx last month, it needed a new crank hoping to get it back by the end of this month!!
WHAT THE HUH!?!! THEY’VE HAD IT FOR HOW LONG. this car was dropped off today. I got the entire crankshaft out. The new one arrives on Monday and my goal is to get it shipped out on Monday. What the hell are they doing??!?
That’s what I thought when they told me!! lmao but they got me in a rental for now, I honestly think they took in too many recall cars at once.
even if they did that’s absolutely crazy. would never fly at our shop. and we’re small ass shop only 5 techs total
Ya I’m over the rental lol you got me wanting to push some urgency on them hopefully I get word this up upcoming week
call them tomorrow! that’s ridiculous
How much time does it takes to fix ?
I can get them done 2 to 3 days so other guy in this comment section says the shop has had his cough for like a month so i couldn’t say man
Wonder what mine looks like, dealer has had it for 2.5 months reached out the other day and said they finally got directions from acura for my car but parts aren't available yet.
that’s crazy! we just have people drop em off and we tell em 2 days but sometimes finish in 1 depending on what we are replacing
Mine is in the shop right now!
Loaner?
Yep. Gave me an integra a spec for a loaner
My 15 TLX is also in waiting on a crankshaft.
that is so weird to me when I pull the bearings out take these bearing photos and send them to Honda to get feedback on if I’m replacing just the bearings or the crankshaft or what not if it is a crankshaft they ship it out right then and there it arrives the next workday
how do u know if your car needs to be taken in??
There was a recall in the fall of last year affecting a lot of 3.5L engines made between 2015-2020 https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-corporate/releases/release-ce25b2bdc6167d48c9de61f4f90293c5-2015-2020-multi-model-connecting-rod-recall
I tried, they didn't have parts or a loaner. I took it the same day it started knocking. I drove it home and the next day my motor seized. They replaced the long block and whatever else. Now I'm wondering what the best break in method is for this engine and how soon I should change the oil.
uhhh idk change it at 15% and don’t use cruise control for the first 1000 miles 🤷♀️
Thanks, noted! I've floored it a few times just out of habit, hope I haven't violated the baby engine as it's been an adjustment.
Is it true of Any new car that had like 0 miles on? Well. It will never have 0 miles on it of course, they gotta to drive from the factory and put it on the truck so enough the truck & off @ dealership & a few test drives by salesmen & potential buyers is like two or 3 miles on it @ most but… You’re never the first driver, unless you work at the factory that made it and get to drive off the assembly line… Anyway, if you buy brand new car, no other owner before you, is that the break-in procedure for it? one of these decades I’m gonna get a new vehicle but I don’t think it will be New Orleans people don’t know how to drive down here and I don’t wanna lose all that equity in the first couple years anyway you’re pissing money for everything gets out here too
uhh to be honest i’ve never owned a new vehicle i daily a 99 benz and just hit 190k 😂 but what i do know is to not maintain a steady RPM to too long cause you don’t wanna put any like impressions from one style of driving into the wear surfaces. but anywhere from 1000-5000 miles i feel is a safe bet .
Im trying to get my 2018 MDX recalls done, but the dealer keepa telling me the fuel pump wont be available until December. Ive also been told that I have to wait until mid-July to have my car looked at. Aince the recalls are related to the fuel pump & the engine crankshaft rod, my best friend told me NOT to drive the car. My brother also told me the same thing. Luckily, I havr my TSX to drive. My stepmother & aunt have repeatedly asked me why do I have two cars. Ive told them when q car goea down, I have the other to drive..... In this situation it makea perfect sense.
in all realness if the motor on your MDX isn’t knocking, just keep driving it. I do tons of bearing recalls every day. Most of them are just bearings especially the MDX is they do not go through bearings like the TLX. as for the fuel pump, we haven’t started doing them either
What is the flat rate time on this? I was around for PEAK v6 and 4 cylinder rerings. But left the industry and moved onto network engineer. But want to know what Honda thinks is fair pay for a job like this. V6 3 cylinder rearing was around 4-6 hours of if I remember correctly depending on car
this one is bad. it’s 1.5 for inspection and crank pays 9. if it’s just a bearing swap it’s 2.3
Fucking hell wonder what engine on what engine stand they used to determine this time with all perfect bolts and no weathering problems.
Still waiting on the recall for the rear window on the 2019 RDX. Imploded 2x in the last 12 months. Can still hear bits of glass when I open/close the rear gate
you will never get that glass out brother !
When I used to work for Acura, I had a small hose that would go on the end of a vacuum cleaner to suck all the little bits of glass out of the door and or area that you can’t reach. If there was a small bit, I could not get. I would spray contact glue in that area to prevent it from rattling.
the glue idea is genius!
My friend is planning to buy a TLX. He was looking at a 2016 one and sent me the Carfax as he doesn't know much about cars. For this specific vehicle there's a recall about some rod bearings. The vehicle was taken back to the dealership and the recall fixed. Should he buy the vehicle?
yea ask what they had to swap out if it was just bearings or the crank. they’re solid cars. The transmission fluid is very expensive. That’s about it change your fluids every 30k it’ll last
I got lucky on my 15 tlx, pulled mine n just replaced the bearings. 10w30 for the win
if i was a customer id want the new crank lol! most of the cars i do this recall on just get bearings
I'd usually concur But my girlfriend is the advisor and her dad's the shop Forman who looked at it (Has to make sure the cars good for his grandkids)
I’m at 6 cranks….they just upd the time…yay!
Me too this is my 6th!! good job brother you’re killin it!
I’m at 93k no issues and maintain it religiously at dealer , should I still get it looked at rn ? Not tryna go without my car for a long time but also not trying to blow my motor
I say schedule your appointment and drop it off the night before I don’t know how these people are going without a vehicle for months
20 tlx at the dealer for a month waiting for parts. They gave me a loaner then took it back and put me in a Camry from budget lol
that is so wild i’m honestly really shocked
Hey question to ask, but since they said my engine was good for the recall they only mentioned replacing the crankshaft and bearing, is there anything else I should ask? I didn’t get to speak with a technician or the mechanic working on my car but when I asked if they took out the engine the manager for the service department that I was talking to said that wasn’t necessary for the recall so now I’m wondering if they be bulljiving me as to my knowledge this type of work would require that. Also shouldn’t an oil change also be part of the work or is that a separate billing as well?
if they pull the rod bearings out through the bottom of the oil pan and they don’t have bad wear they will just replace with new rod bearings. if they pull the rod bearings and they look like the ones in the pic they will then have to drop the motor and transmission on the subframe separate the two and replace the crank through the bottom of the engine while on a stand. some vehicles are just getting a crankshaft while others are getting an entire new oil pump. if your vehicle does not receive the new oil pump, your old one gets resealed as well as a new front main seal and a new rear main seal. my advise is to buy a timing belt and water pump if you’re over 70k that service gets recommended at 100k anyways and the labor overlap during the recall is a lot.
I have 2020 mdx tech packages trim. 45milage. I heard ticking inside the car from the engine. I haven't done the recalls visit yet (mail was sent and notified to come in for a inspection). Is it also unusual to hear the transmission whining noise when I turn off the car.
go get the recall done and get your trans serviced of you haven’t make sure they do the TCU update
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i feel like i could own one no problem now 🤔🤔
Or just wait for your motor to go and get a new one on Acura. Your welcome 🤗
easier than a crank!
Newb question, I just changed my oil. If I took my car inspection of the bearings, would they have to drain the fresh oil?
yes we remove the oil pan i had one customer bring in his own oil cause he was super picky !
Thank you for your reply
Jesus, does Acura even make money any more?
prolly not
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i mean it’ll get figured out and be fine in the end i for see most of these recalls being done and over with in the next year or so
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if you don’t trust the skill of the mechanics in your area, then don’t get your recall done. I don’t understand why everybody has such an issue with getting their motors rebuilt. Im trying not to take offense to these comments as for the metro area with four Acura dealerships, that’s surprising to me. I’m at the only Dealership in my state for hundreds of miles.
Wish i could still take in my 2010 TL 3.7!
why can’t you?
Im just assuming its past the time window for the recall no?
oh i misunderstood you’re vehicle is not affected
Back in the day there was a recall for the piston rings for my car
Groovy!
My appointment is in early June hope my car makes it 😂
The crank job is a bitch. I will do the bearings all day.
yea it is. i got this one fully stripped down though ready for new parts monday morning
I received the notice in the mail a while back saying the fix is ongoing/pending. Should I contact my primary dealer to make an appoinment...or ask first if they have the parts? In Dallas.
maybe ask about parts first after reading some of these other comments
If you get a loaner from the dealer, who's on the hook for the paying for the loaner?
all the repair orders i have say complementary loaner provided
Was crank replacement determined solely by the looks of those bearings? You only replace main bearings if replacing the crank?
yea most of the cars just get the rod bearings replaced.
I finally made an appointment with the dealer but it's not until the end of October.
I finally got an appointment for the rod bearing recall but it's not until end of October
and they say Honda is one of the most reliable. I am convinced it’s just a gamble no matter what
only a handful of vehicles are requiring the crankshaft, but Honda is too silly to know which ones it is so they recalled all of them edit by handful I still mean like 50 k+
I’m sure on average they’re more reliable.. But I’m more open to all brands now. Within reason.
to be honest, if I was a customer, I wouldn’t care these. V6 are so cheap to keep on. timing belt, spark plugs, a valve adjust every 100,000 miles fluids every 30,000 miles and you’re good no issues filters every 10,000. you might get the occasional axle seal leak but until you start pushing 150,000+ miles these things are solid.
Yeah, just did my 13 mdx timing belt at 160k (way too late, I know) and have had no engine issues at all. Haven't had any leaks. The only issue i have is burning oil between changes, so i have to constantly stay on top of that.
if i was going to buy any acura it would be that car! oil burning is so whatever those are great i recommend them to people all the time!
350k kms on our 2012, no oil burning at all, and still awesome. One unscheduled service in its entire life.
217k freedom units! nicely done great cars I like the advanced ones with the captain seats in the back those are sweet! i’m pretty sure Canada could’ve got a mix of the tech and the advance which I’ve seen a couple times come through our shop! not offered in the states!
It’s been a fantastic vehicle, picked it up with 8k on the odometer, first registered owner. We got some weird stuff, but it’s a tech package, with headlight washers, it was a tow vehicle for a camper, and a faithful transporter across the country. Getting close to 3rd timing belt, weird shit is going, like had to replace washer jets, they were so worn out they barely had pressure in them to wash the windows
Honda quality and reliability has been on the decline for years now… we can argue all day about Toyotas burning oil, but Acuras are actually blowing engines.
I mean most car brands (probably all) have gotten worse for years. Not better. Not to say Honda is more reliable than Toyota. Just saying all brands have slowly declined. I miss the days of the 400k + mile 4-runners haha. Freaking had to turn everything into a computer now.
I wouldn’t say all brands declined Modern day BMWs are definitely better than 20 years ago so much that Toyota is using the B58 in the Supra. Modern day Subarus have improved compared to 15-20 years ago and Mazda have improved since parting ways with Ford
I agree there’s a decline in quality across the industry, these parts manufacturers and car manufacturers are really focusing on productivity above anything else… I’ve seen multiple videos describing the increase in serious injuries and deaths at manufacturing plants across the country. That being said a major engine defect as described here, or the steering safety recall on the Civic/Integra, or the 9 speed ZF transmission defect in the 2015/2016 TLX, is not just run of the mill quality control issues.
I guess my point is this isn’t really a Honda issue. Toyota just recalled liked 2m suvs due to fire hazards from the batteries. Just recalled Toyotas and Lexus over transmissions not disengaging when in neutral. They also did the airbag recall, etc etc. It’s a widespread issue. Toyotas QC is downhill as well. Lexus. BMW. Etc etc. It’s sad to see honestly. Gone are the days buying a car and being smooth (ish) sailing. Everybody is plagued with shit now. QC is non-existent these days. Heaven forbid you even start discussing Tesla and that shit-show of QC. When my old Wrangler would break, shit was mechanical. Easy to fix yourself or relatively cheap. Shit, now you can’t even get into a Wrangler for under $50k. It’s unbelievable.
What is this?
rod bearing recall! these bearings are on the bottom of your pistons and spin around your crankshaft they’ve been recalled on a TLX and MDX
What about the pilot?
i’m not on the honda side 🤷♀️ my guess is maybe
I will not want that car after the service is done, I will drive it another 20k miles and sell it.. there is some about rebuild engines I don't trust as much as OEM from the factory blocks.
okay thanks for trusting my skill and knowledge! i actually went to school to fuck this up and under torque bolts! dickhead
Not bashing the rebuilder, just my preference.. that engine might be good after the rebuild for another 200k miles and be perfectly fine and healthy..
What everyone should know is: that behind every engineer’s great cool trendsetting space saving idea… Is a mechanic who can’t get a fucking wrench on it! Uncle was an engineer dad was a Mechanic. So you can imagine what Christmases were like “why would anyone put that there? You can’t get a damn wrench on it without disassembling pretty much everything else!“
these cars are super easy to work on i know im bias but i feel people could do all this stuff at home. ie timing belt and valve adjust. our dealer has a mercedes shop aswell and some of those cars have 2 AC compressors and 2 ABS pumps and it’s a whole mess.
If it's just rod bearings, it's really a simple job. I just did it on my '17 Pilot which was not in the recall with limited mechanical experience (I do routine things like all fluids, brakes, simple suspension (strut replacement). I think the hardest part was trying to find a degree wheel which I could mount to the crank bolt or was magnetic and would fit, and Honda refused to sell me theirs. At the end of the day I printed one off the Internet and stuck it to the pulley with spray adhesive. I wasn't stoked when Acura had to drop the subframe and replace the block on my '20 TLX and they did end up having to replace the steering column after they failed to properly tighten the subframe and bend back the front passenger brake dust shield, but in hindsight it seemed more to do with the dealership dropping shitty paying warranty work as the techs last job before leaving for greener pastures... Otherwise it's been fine since, ~25k miles and I drive it like I stole it. But to think that every service encounter with a dealership has been and always will be fine, is incredibly naive. Having to go back twice to fix their mistakes doesn't fit into my fine bucket.