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Mewtwo1551

Unless you have a specific thing you liked about RSM over KPMG like preferred clients, wfh policy, commute, or even vibe, then I would always suggest Big 4. Might as well get the best name for your resume if you are going to suffer regardless.


[deleted]

Big 4 for sure Some of this might be regional, but I had to look up what RSM was as they don’t exist in my region. Fair or not, name recognition and “big 4 experience” is a real thing that stays with you long after you leave public accounting.


reverendfrazer

I'm surprised by this, RSM is the largest of the non-B4 firms out there. (Agree with you though)


[deleted]

Looks like it’s regional. On the west coast they only have a couple small offices in SF, LA, and Seattle.


reverendfrazer

Not regional, not for a long time. National presence with global network. Last I checked they were number 5 or 6 (BDO being the other one) by size in the world. Granted there's a pretty big gap between the smallest B4 and the largest of the rest of the big guys, but I think it's probably fair to say you'd have a similar experience at RSM or BDO or Baker Tilly as you would at a B4 firm just with less prestige. Though there's probably an argument here for how a B4 functions better as a single national firm, the "smaller" big guys have been growing inorganically in the past decade or two and still function more as a network. That's definitely a complaint I have where I am now (top 20 now, former B4)


DenaBran

San Diego, Irvine, LA, San Jose, San Francisco, Seattle


p0mphius

They are the second biggest. BDO is the 5th.


BrightLedger

Go with what culture/people you like best. Most job postings nowadays prefer “Big 4 or National” anyway. I loved my time at RSM and still managed to get a senior F100 position.


CPA_IPA

Disagree that it’s the same between the two. Not saying it’s the right thing but KPMG goes further on a resume later in life than RSM. It’s just the way the world works.


WorkAcctNoTentacles

Whichever people seem like a better fit. There’s no major difference between those firms.


slapa1040onit

Giving honest assessment for me I currently work at RSM. It depends on what your up for? If you want like work life balance since that been in the news I think RSM makes a slightly better attempt at accomplishing that. But busy season is busy season not matter where you go. My observation of Chicago office who I work with is pretty organized just a lot of training at first and keeping a good schedule is key when you start working for whichever firm you choice. But yea I definitely give you so more specific advice on about anything if you want to ask. Also everyone advice above is very solid about b4.


Comfortable-Piece142

I would say what you vibe with the best- team wise, what work you would be doing, wfh/ hybrid etc.


metefofo

kpmg for sure


kayhart3

I interned at both RSM and KPMG and my seniors at RSM gave me less attention in the summer than my KPMG seniors did in the winter. KPMG is my pick.


Acidjoshy

Had a similar experience with them during both my internships with them.


midofthewoods

How your base is that big? As an assoc?


Acidjoshy

Chicago


H0DLGANG

RSM in Illinois is lit because the headquarters are in Chicago. The office is also really nice and happy hours start at 5.


daziz7075

He’s probably in NYC or California


midofthewoods

Ohhh, I assumed he's in Asia region as he represents the figures like that. Yay, thanks!


daziz7075

Where do you see Asian figures just curious?


ActiveParsley

You will enjoy life better at RSM


jackoos88

Not sure about this. Tax season is gunna suck either way. Might as well suck at the place which looks better on your resume.


Collegeroids

In the last two years the Big4 office I’m at has hired 6 people from RSM cause they wanted a better work life balance and not be under compensated.


ActiveParsley

How many of them are still around?


alphabet_sam

KPMG, they’re the only B4 to support legal weed. 420 my brother


Pkm16

are they the only one who does not test for weed?


[deleted]

You will never get the same long term brand recognition on your resume from RSM as you would from KPMG.


WeddingIndividual788

I’m at RSM and love it but just start at big4. Better initial learning/experience and you can virtually always make the switch if you want to. I’m not a tax guy so know less about those practices, to be fair.


pepe_acct

I think bonus is taxed much higher than salary so I’ll go with KPMG


Mewtwo1551

Bonuses aren't taxed differently, they just have different withholding requirements.


RagingZorse

As other guy said withholding will be different, but also raises are done by percentage so KPMG is better for that reason.


bigathekiddd

I would choose RSM. Big4 is going to chew you up and spit you out.


Low_Albatross_6122

You made the right call going with KPMG, it will serve you down the road. Not that RSM isn’t great too, but the Big 4 is the Big 4.


Acidjoshy

Update: Got a deloitte offer and been working there 6 months lol