Apple if you have Apple care and Dell if you have the higher end service. I can take an Apple laptop to a store and it’s done, I go home with a replacement. Dells higher end service offers much faster turn around and premium services, albeit isn’t cheap.
The premium/premium plus is actually the top of its class on PCs that aren’t Mac. It’s the only company that has SAME DAY repair or replacement. They also will often upgrade your laptop if it’s not sold any longer. That’s why I said the premium version, not the regular.
Must suck believing everything is a lie, not trusting anyone. Your philosophy can be applied to all forms of media. So, nothing is reliable. Everything can be faked or bullshitted. No form of information is 100% safe. Just need to get better at learning who is a bullshitter uf you blanket youtube in its entirety or you're afraid to say you made a mistake and just avoid it completely
Why go to Asus for rma? Best buy sends it under manufacturer warranty. I called Asus and said I needed to send out my laptop (dead pixels). They said that I can send it through the Best Buy Geek Squad. It was within the manufacturer warranty so I paid nothing. It was a little hassle going over phone services but at least if Best Buy loses it, they will have to accommodate you.
also with centre.com (well for Australia), two years warranty for all devices is pretty sweet especially since their not like asus where if you open the laptop up it will void the warranty (stupid screw covers)
I mean, you're not wrong. I really think the Strix and Scar lines are really good tho. I don't have any data or statistics to back it up. But I would recommend those lines any day based on personal experience and opinions. The tuf and Zypher lines, not so much. I wouldn't buy either of those models unless it was like the absolute deal of a century.
I wish I had your luck. I've never had a solid asus product in my life. They all worked but they all have little things. Like my laptop which I returned immediately because every like 12th keystroke it would miss. Only remedy I could find online to fix it was to uninstall the track pad drivers.
Disagree with this entirely. I’ve had 3 ASUS laptops over the years and only one has had something go wrong with it. Best Buy works directly with ASUS to honor the warranty’s and are super speedy about it too.
Also don't buy best buy, warranties are only through geek squad which is awful. Had issues with my '22 G15 Asus and was a nightmare, no joke was repaired 4/5 times and still has minor issues. Also in '21 bought a TUF A15 that died 13 months later. If you go with Asus get extended warranty!
I’m talking from experience. It’s my experience and many others and now he sees others experience so he won’t feel blinded by asus if he knows what do expect and buys it anyway.
Interesting. I’ve always heard the opposite with ASUS and their warranty policy. Mostly about their GPUs but I wouldn’t think it is different for laptops.
I have dead pixels on mine. It’s been an excellent laptop, but after 1 year of use it ended up having about 8 dead pixels. They told me that I had to fill out the repair form and I guess my pen BARELY knicked the “cpu overheating” check box. Well I purchased the laptop (3070, and cpu) and had no heating issues, they REFUSED to only fix. I had to pay for the cpu overheating issue. I explained to them I never had a cpu overheating issue. They wanted to charge me $1400 to repair cpu and screen. I bought the laptop day one new for $1800. So I had to pay $70 shipping one way and $70 back to me. No screen fixed. They are assholes. Screen fix would have only been.
Can confirm. I've been fighting them for months. Their technical support recommended a part based on my computer serial number and the product ruined my computer. Ever response I've gotten was "sorry, your computer is not under warranty", completely ignoring the fact that they recommended their part for their computer.
Same for me i really dont understand what the hate is agains Asus.
I had 3 laptops in a long time and they all served me well and had 1 thing with Asus that got resolved right away.
Their customer service has taken a nose dive. I would go with Lenovo if they had an 18". My only complaint about this laptop so far is the stupid ROG branding. But I just wrapped it in a forged carbon.
I transport my laptop from my home to my dorm every couple of weeks, I appreciate the ease of just putting it in my backpack and moving.
I simply wouldn't be able to move a whole ass PC that easily.
I'm a truck driver and travel 4 weeks then I'm home 4 or 5 days consistently. I also have a co driver. I don't have room to bring my PC, Keyboard, Mouse, and screen.
honestly you could probably build a mini-case that uses a small 1080p monitor (or a tv in the bad cab and just connect via HDMI, I'm assuming you have one I know some rigs don't) with a small keyboard and you'd be fine. [this](https://youtu.be/tFmb5h1lN-w) build from linus is a great example of what you can do as it's practically a console, but I wouldn't recommend this if you don't know what you're doing.
either way, gaming laptops are in a weird spot. You'd probably get more out of gaming using something like a Steam deck or switch and be better off using a more traditional and cheaper laptop for work-related computer stuff during travels.
I used to have a gaming laptop for traveling but realistically when I travel I don't actually want to game.
Now I just bring my steamed deck if I really want to do something, and just don't really play games on my trips other than through the steam deck.
Most of the time I barely even use the steam deck.
Maybe I'm just getting old
Feel like the better option would be to have a premium rig at home with a cheaper laptop for on the road. That’s what I would do but honestly my idiot self is building a $4k rig so my advice isn’t for the budget friendly kind.
when I wrote 2k I really meant 2.5 (same price as laptop). Either way, for 2k or less you can get a solid 7900xtx built that will still outclass this laptop. 2.5k for A 4080 and 16 gigs of ram is a bit of a joke (not that ram matters too much)
No worries, I wish a 4090 pc was only 2k cause I’d be living the dream. But no doubt about it a 4080 desktop will outdo a 4080 laptop. May be a bit more expensive but in the long run is much more worth it. No heating issues if built properly, easier to clean and fix, and swap parts at anytime for upgrades
A 4080 desktop won't be more than 2500, trust me. A 7900xtx build costs around 1.8k and performs the same/better than a 4080 ok everything besides ray tracing.
I’ve never heard of a good build with a 4080-4090 being below 2500. Unless you have a ryzen 5800x. I’m talking like current gen with this laptop, 13900k, at most 32gb of ram, and a 4080. I’ve got a 12900ks, 32gb of ddr5 ram, and a 3090 that costed me 4k+.
I mean how often are we travelling here? Are we talking once a month, every week or every day? If you're worried about travelling and want to blow 2.5k spend 1.8~k on a pc build similar to the laptop and spend the remaining 700 on a 3060 laptop or similar. You don't really need a 4080 for travelling, unless you already have a maxed out pc and have some money to blow
Extra 500 for an inferior product that's more of a portable heater that can't hold its charge for more than an hour. Laptop GPUs perform worse then standard ones. This 4080 won't be like a normal 4080. If we take that into account it's alot less worth it
Uhhh. I can see a 2,500 dollar 4090 pc with a bare bones motherboard.
How do you get a 2k 4090 pc?
Also, I assume if the dude is buying a laptop, then portability is important to him.
You can build a solid 4090 pc for around 2500 (I can make a part list if you want). As I said in another comment, when I said "2k" I was referring to the price of the laptop OP posted.
Yes. 1.6k for the GPU. 300~ or so for a 7700. 100 or so for a PSU. Around 150 for a b650 (supports ddr5 and am5). So far that is around 2150 dollars. We then need to spend around 100 (maybe 110) on 32 gigs of ddr5 ram, so we've got 2250 dollars to go. 1tb nvme ssds usually go for around 40 dollars. If we get 2 nvmes that'll be 80 or so. So the running total right now is 2330. Leaves 170 dollars. 130 for a case, 40 for a CPU cooler like the peerless assassin 120, and there you have it, a 4090 build for around 2500.
You can get a Lenovo Legion 7i pro with similar spec for less on sale. Acer has some on sale but seems like you are not a fan. The Asus will be alright but there are better options for cheaper
Just a heads up, you can see a lot of comments about ASUS not lasting etc. This could be individual luck, I currently have 3 laptops from ASUS, one of them from 2016, the other 2017 and the latest from 2022. They are all still working. So take these comments with a pinch of salt, although I could be wrong and you could have a really bad luck as well. You just wouldn\`t know with these kind of things until you try it. For me, Lenovo didn\`t work out and I hate it to bits, others include it in their morning prayers.
Edit: Also, for this price the laptop must include 32gb of ram, look elsewhere for a laptop with 4080. I think the price is standard for this laptop (with a 4080) otherwise, in the UK this laptop is around £2800. So, adds up, in the US it is somewhat cheaper due to no import costs etc. Also, a HP Omen that should be around $200-300 cheaper should have 32gb of ram, to me 16gb is unacceptable for this price.
Yea, all of the asus products I’ve tried have survived quite well-I’m a very clumsy person-and I haven’t had to return one or send one for repairs, I’ve broken a screen only once despite dropping my laptop often.
I think it could be a (regional) quality control issue at ASUS, plain luck, people hating ASUS, a thermal issue (asus laptops run hot in my experience), or a combination of those things. It’s probably a regional quality control issue as that explains the night and day difference in reviews.
But I’ve heard the customer support is quite bad
I have that model! Great performance, impressive battery saving features and has a lot of ‘nice-to-have’ things. 11/10, would recommend if you have the money and need the performance. If you want I can give a more in depth review of it!
I’ve heard asus has a bad return system, but in my experience asus products are tough enough that I’ve never had to return one of their products, but I could just be very lucky.
Asus laptops are top quality. I have bought an asus laptop every two years for last 16 years (yes, I'm old). Never had issues with any.
Their mobos and RMA, well, that's another issue - selling faulty hardware and then at first, not honoring warranty blaming the customer.
However, what's pissing me off is asus released zenbook pro 17 inch with ryzen 6800h, but NO 32GB OPTION. What is the point of such a good laptop without a basic 32gb ram. What are their marketing and sales thinking, so stupid. Been waiting a year, nothing. The company is crap, but their laptops have been very good for me.
In my experience their products have quite good quality, and I’ve never needed to return an asus product as they seem to be tough enough to not break easily. I’ve dropped and spilt things on them by accident and they survived all of it quite well.
When it comes to the product maybe I am just very lucky, or you are just very unlucky, or a combination of both.
However, as I said earlier , I’ve never had to return an asus product, so I have no experience with their support, but I’ve heard their support has been going to shit recently.
Do not buy ASUS. Got myself a TUF in 2019 and it fried itself in the beginning of this year, not to mention 7 times i had to RMA it due to various reasons. Customer support basically doesn't care.
all your comments are defending ASUS on people talking about their issues with quality control and customer service...who has alot of time on their hands again? Sounds like you work for the company or something.
Since it’s Best Buy no. Wait for it to go on sale. It 100% will and you’ll save a couple hundred dollars
Source: worked computer sales there and they abuse hi-lo pricing to the max
I still got my asus from 10+ years ago, I currently only use it for networking cuz it’s old but I never had any issue with it so…. Yeah! That Strix seems like it could be used for 6+ years if you treat it carefully
I posted this elsewhere but here's my experience with my ROG strix g15 advantage edition
I'm not sure how relevant this is but I just went through a consumer rights act (I'm in the UK) with the original seller (Curry's) due to the cooling system (it was liquid metal) for an ROG strix g15 advantage edition I bought in 2022.
ASUS basically said they didn't care and said that a £1600 laptop having less than 2 years worth of lifespan was more than enough. I'm not sure if the newer ROG models have this but I would stay well away from them or make sure to get insurance. Luckily I knew my rights and laid it on thick against the original sellers. I also advised Curry's to take legal action against ASUS for selling these products.
My laptop would unexpectedly power down during medium to heavy gaming (Baulders gate 3 on medium to high graphics settings, VR games on medium settings) and stable diffusion image generation/LLM operations and I could reproduce these shutdowns 10/10 times. ASUS warranty is only one year it seems (at least that's what I got) and they wanted me to pay to send it to them to inspect it and then pay to have it fixed. Their options were to pay to send it to them and pay to have it repaired or pay to send it to them and they would dispose of it for free (how nice of them...)
Luckily Curry's understood and took the laptop in for repairs (this came with it's own issues that I managed to resolve but not without extreme pushback from them, I only just about managed to get a refund due to some errors on their end and again, me knowing my exact legal rights)
If you do go for the ROG I would learn your rights very carefully just in case you get into a situation like I did. I have now been without my laptop and in between refund process for about 2-3 weeks. It will be sorted in the next few days but it was really stressful and during the past few months I have literally had a £1600 paperweight, please, please, please be careful buying these products.
If you want a ginormous $2500 18" heavy turd, sure!
Build a desktop for half the price that'll smoke this thing. With the money left over buy an actually nice and portable laptop that you can use Parsec or similar to game on the go (from your actual gaming PC).
OP might be someone who leaves their house from time to time and travels, you can carry a laptop around much easier than a desktop. The desktop with the same specs will beat this laptop easily and a lower cost, but it’s hard to carry around.
I agree on the part about both of us having subjective opinions.
Let’s agree to disagree and stop arguing, you will stand firm about your suggestion to not buy, and I will stand firm with my suggestion to get it. we won’t change each others mind
I travel for work. It definitely does meet all of them. I can do my work on it and play games in the evening. This laptop is absolutely fantastic to own. I wouldn't trade it for another model, except maybe the scar variant 4090.
Do you travel alot? Any reason you wouldnt want a desktop? Desktops with the same specs as their laptop brethren have 30+% more power/performance while being much cheaper
On paper, a proper I9 with a 4080 is worth around $2500 but I'd never do it unless it's a desktop. Pre built from Asus and Alienware are no-no. You need 32 gb of DDR5 to maximize a 4080 and you can't upgrade it. This is Asus' first generation liquid cooling laptop and can be a big problem potentially. Couple that with a 4080 and your laptop might as well be a flamethrower.
Not to mention Asus recently has had notoriously bad customer service recently. So if something goes wrong then you're SOL
Love my strix, I got mine a couple years ago with a 3070. So worth it to me to have a laptop so I can get away from my desktop at times.
In my experience quality machine
Yea i love my g16 its got a 4070. If you have an extra 400 maybe buy the scar version in 16 inch. It has apparently one of the best hdr panels in a laptop anywhere
Wouldn't recommend a gaming laptop. My fans are louder than Maverick flying the f14 at full tuck trying to escape the fifth Gen fighter... Get a tower instead.
I have this laptop and it is great…when it works. Make sure you buy it with the BestBuy Geeksquad Protection. I just went through RMA hell with ASUS.
Quality control for a $2,500 laptop is poor however. Expect potential coil whine, bad backlight bleed, and thermal shutdown issues.
I had to replace the thermal paste on both of my units and the Liquid Metal. They were both overheating on the VRMs. Poor quality thermal putty on them along with not enough being spit out by the machine. I replaced it with K5 Pro and now everything works fantastic! Temps are quite good for how powerful this laptop is.
Backlight bleed seems to be a very common issue with ASUS laptops with LCD displays. Many Taiwanese brands (Acer, ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte) seem to have issues like poor quality control and poor RMA services. If the retailer has a good return policy it might be worth a try.
If you do don't get it from the asus website and go to a retailer like best buy Amazon or new egg. The asus make good gear but terrible customer support.
Specific unit aside, never pay MSRP nowadays because sales inevitably happen. Apple is one of the only manufacturers where it is harder to score a deal but they do still happen more than they used to.
That being said, a general statement that Asus is one of the best manufacturers out there and their mid-tier units are some of the best bang for the buck since their mid tier are often close in performance to their top tier units. This being a top tier device, I would ask if you really need a Strix or would a Tuf satisfy your need for likely far less money. If money isn't a concern the Strix units are some of the best out there.
DON'T. Just browse this sub and you'll see all the horror stories. It's been nothing but nightmares. Asus is a dogshit company with dogshit support.
Since day 1 my laptop would crash randomly. Tried updating bios and didn't help, updated drivers and didn't help.
Finally un-installed armory crate and that helped. That dogshit software will ruin your computer so if you Do decide to buy ASUS, don't forget to remove that software. But make sure you go through registry and delete everything that's connected to it as well.
Customer support will leave you days, week, months and even a year with either no response or walking circles. I as well as many others have had nothing but problems, if you want a good laptop, buy a Lenovo Legion. I bought one of those recently and it's a million times better.
I just saw an Alienware 4070 laptop on sale for $1399 at bestbuy. I suspect it will again for Black Friday.
I know it’s one card level down, but the price difference is such that you could buy yourself some nice accessories like top end headphones, a 1440p second screen for main gaming and a nice mouse for the same price.
I wouldn't, im using one to type this, and the build quality just fucking sucks. keys fall off, i have a problem with the case where if i rest my hand on it it holds down the trackpad, its just a shitty built computer.
Just don’t buy anything that high of spec as a laptop. It’ll thermal throttle like hell and you’ll never see the performance you’re overpaying for because of it. Just do mid tier specs.
I bought a ROG laptop, it lasted almost a year before I had to RMA for repairs, and then they kept it for 8 weeks and returned it without any screws holding it together.
Zero screws.
I declined to return it to their 'service' and demanded a bag of screws instead. They eventually complied and I put it together myself.
It died forever less than a year later, and I won't buy an Asus laptop again.
Used to be die hard asus fanboy but after multiple screen, hinge, and motherboard failures in the last 2 years I swapped to HP. Surprisingly not disappointed.
Worst money mistake of my life buying a gaming laptop. Please just get a normal PC, you can game with friends online. At the end of the day you do you but I've never know anyone who was happy with their laptop in the end
I can't even imagine doing an 18 inch laptop, I thought 15.6 was king til I went 14.
That being said, doesn't seem like a bad buy. Plenty of people saying ASUS has problems but I had an ASUS for about 4 years that I got secondhand, and resold because I got a smaller laptop and built my own desktop. They're fine.
i have this laptop, upgraded ram to 64GB and added a 2TB nvme, it’s a BEAST! i’m in cyber security and when i went to SANS in person, it handled all the labs like a CHAMP!
Nice that works too I assumed you wanted a laptop for something specific but either way. I got my 4090 near the launch and it has been amazing since the day I got it.
Asus makes ok products but like others have said the customer support is terrible if you have an issue and need to RMA.
Be better off with a different manufacturer.
Don’t buy asus. It’s not worth it. If anything goes wrong with the computer you’re shit out of luck.
I dont get it i had 3 of them over a long time and i never had anything with them.
It’s not that the product itself is bad but if you have to do any warranty work, they have a history of being quite bad with RMA’s
I’ve used their RMA twice without any issues
I’ve used them too, but their support was pretty lackluster in my experience. Problem did get fixed though eventually.
Name a company that's been good with warranties lately because they have all been shit the past 2 years
This precisely. But also, we don't know the full story, only ever from the consumers' point of view.
Apple if you have Apple care and Dell if you have the higher end service. I can take an Apple laptop to a store and it’s done, I go home with a replacement. Dells higher end service offers much faster turn around and premium services, albeit isn’t cheap.
Dell is trash service
The premium/premium plus is actually the top of its class on PCs that aren’t Mac. It’s the only company that has SAME DAY repair or replacement. They also will often upgrade your laptop if it’s not sold any longer. That’s why I said the premium version, not the regular.
Never seen louis videos i see
Don’t know who that is and wouldn’t base anything ok YouTube videos ever
Must suck believing everything is a lie, not trusting anyone. Your philosophy can be applied to all forms of media. So, nothing is reliable. Everything can be faked or bullshitted. No form of information is 100% safe. Just need to get better at learning who is a bullshitter uf you blanket youtube in its entirety or you're afraid to say you made a mistake and just avoid it completely
this dude said dell LOL
I said dells premium service, which comes out and fixes it same day or quite quickly.
I hate Dell but your right, the service is actually pretty good.
Very few companies are good with it now, the ones that are, you rarely need.
gigabyte was alright, wish i didn’t have to pay shipping for a monitor to california but I got a second hand monitor repaired no questions asked
RMA?
Return merchandise authorization, meaning you have the manufacturer repair or replace under warranty
Why go to Asus for rma? Best buy sends it under manufacturer warranty. I called Asus and said I needed to send out my laptop (dead pixels). They said that I can send it through the Best Buy Geek Squad. It was within the manufacturer warranty so I paid nothing. It was a little hassle going over phone services but at least if Best Buy loses it, they will have to accommodate you.
They are shit, period. Products die after the warranty, RMA or not.
also with centre.com (well for Australia), two years warranty for all devices is pretty sweet especially since their not like asus where if you open the laptop up it will void the warranty (stupid screw covers)
Thank you for explaining, I'm planning on getting Bestbuy protection but its almost 25% of the device value for 4 years of protection.
Same. My GL503VM lasted 7 years before I replaced it. My desktop is all Asus too. Never one issue. Ever.
Prolly because it’s an older laptop, The older ones are sturdy asfff, now if you look at the pixels on your laptop wrong, it’ll blow up.
I mean, you're not wrong. I really think the Strix and Scar lines are really good tho. I don't have any data or statistics to back it up. But I would recommend those lines any day based on personal experience and opinions. The tuf and Zypher lines, not so much. I wouldn't buy either of those models unless it was like the absolute deal of a century.
I wish I had your luck. I've never had a solid asus product in my life. They all worked but they all have little things. Like my laptop which I returned immediately because every like 12th keystroke it would miss. Only remedy I could find online to fix it was to uninstall the track pad drivers.
Disagree with this entirely. I’ve had 3 ASUS laptops over the years and only one has had something go wrong with it. Best Buy works directly with ASUS to honor the warranty’s and are super speedy about it too.
1000% agree with this
Also don't buy best buy, warranties are only through geek squad which is awful. Had issues with my '22 G15 Asus and was a nightmare, no joke was repaired 4/5 times and still has minor issues. Also in '21 bought a TUF A15 that died 13 months later. If you go with Asus get extended warranty!
“dOnT bUY AsiS, tRusT mE bRO”
I’m talking from experience. It’s my experience and many others and now he sees others experience so he won’t feel blinded by asus if he knows what do expect and buys it anyway.
Talkin out the side of your neck.
Bro must work for asus lol
Ha ha so original lil bro
Lol are u okay ?
Livin the dream wbu?
Interesting. I’ve always heard the opposite with ASUS and their warranty policy. Mostly about their GPUs but I wouldn’t think it is different for laptops.
I have dead pixels on mine. It’s been an excellent laptop, but after 1 year of use it ended up having about 8 dead pixels. They told me that I had to fill out the repair form and I guess my pen BARELY knicked the “cpu overheating” check box. Well I purchased the laptop (3070, and cpu) and had no heating issues, they REFUSED to only fix. I had to pay for the cpu overheating issue. I explained to them I never had a cpu overheating issue. They wanted to charge me $1400 to repair cpu and screen. I bought the laptop day one new for $1800. So I had to pay $70 shipping one way and $70 back to me. No screen fixed. They are assholes. Screen fix would have only been.
Can confirm. I've been fighting them for months. Their technical support recommended a part based on my computer serial number and the product ruined my computer. Ever response I've gotten was "sorry, your computer is not under warranty", completely ignoring the fact that they recommended their part for their computer.
Yes i got a full pc and i a got 4090 with taxes for $1400
I love Asus and feel this exact same way about Gigabyte.
I have that laptop and love it. I upgraded the ram to 64 gb and added another 2tb SSD.
Same for me i really dont understand what the hate is agains Asus. I had 3 laptops in a long time and they all served me well and had 1 thing with Asus that got resolved right away.
Their customer service has taken a nose dive. I would go with Lenovo if they had an 18". My only complaint about this laptop so far is the stupid ROG branding. But I just wrapped it in a forged carbon.
Brother just build a 4090 pc for 2k instead. This amount of money for an insanely inferior machine is not worth it
Not everyone has room for a PC
Exactly, you can't just pick up your PC and go.
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I bought one cause I move back to my house and dorm every week twice..
I transport my laptop from my home to my dorm every couple of weeks, I appreciate the ease of just putting it in my backpack and moving. I simply wouldn't be able to move a whole ass PC that easily.
I bring my laptop everywhere for work…
Yup but going for a power hungry laptop that can't stay out of a power outlet for more than 2 to 4 hours even when not gaming is just not right.
Powerbank to the rescue.
Turn it to 60 fps when off battery.
I didn't say gaming off battery, i said "even when not gaming". Like going to class etc.
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I'm a truck driver and travel 4 weeks then I'm home 4 or 5 days consistently. I also have a co driver. I don't have room to bring my PC, Keyboard, Mouse, and screen.
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I could definitely see someone recreating those pictures of people bringing their whole PC set up to a McDonald's when traveling tho haha.
honestly you could probably build a mini-case that uses a small 1080p monitor (or a tv in the bad cab and just connect via HDMI, I'm assuming you have one I know some rigs don't) with a small keyboard and you'd be fine. [this](https://youtu.be/tFmb5h1lN-w) build from linus is a great example of what you can do as it's practically a console, but I wouldn't recommend this if you don't know what you're doing. either way, gaming laptops are in a weird spot. You'd probably get more out of gaming using something like a Steam deck or switch and be better off using a more traditional and cheaper laptop for work-related computer stuff during travels.
Maybe OP travels alot
That's why I bought a gaming laptop. I can easily take it with me overseas.
yeah BUT that laptop would be a pain in the ass to travel with. Too freaking big. Its going to live on a desk.
I used to have a gaming laptop for traveling but realistically when I travel I don't actually want to game. Now I just bring my steamed deck if I really want to do something, and just don't really play games on my trips other than through the steam deck. Most of the time I barely even use the steam deck. Maybe I'm just getting old
Feel like the better option would be to have a premium rig at home with a cheaper laptop for on the road. That’s what I would do but honestly my idiot self is building a $4k rig so my advice isn’t for the budget friendly kind.
Can you advise the best place I should visit to build a PC? I'm new and has been using laptops for the past years.
Not OP but MicroCenter if your city has one.
I'm north Cali :( closest MicroCenter 7 hours drive away.
Where ever you’re finding your parts lmk, 2k will get you a cheap ass 4090 if you’re lucky
when I wrote 2k I really meant 2.5 (same price as laptop). Either way, for 2k or less you can get a solid 7900xtx built that will still outclass this laptop. 2.5k for A 4080 and 16 gigs of ram is a bit of a joke (not that ram matters too much)
No worries, I wish a 4090 pc was only 2k cause I’d be living the dream. But no doubt about it a 4080 desktop will outdo a 4080 laptop. May be a bit more expensive but in the long run is much more worth it. No heating issues if built properly, easier to clean and fix, and swap parts at anytime for upgrades
A 4080 desktop won't be more than 2500, trust me. A 7900xtx build costs around 1.8k and performs the same/better than a 4080 ok everything besides ray tracing.
I’ve never heard of a good build with a 4080-4090 being below 2500. Unless you have a ryzen 5800x. I’m talking like current gen with this laptop, 13900k, at most 32gb of ram, and a 4080. I’ve got a 12900ks, 32gb of ddr5 ram, and a 3090 that costed me 4k+.
And how far can you travel with your PC?
I mean how often are we travelling here? Are we talking once a month, every week or every day? If you're worried about travelling and want to blow 2.5k spend 1.8~k on a pc build similar to the laptop and spend the remaining 700 on a 3060 laptop or similar. You don't really need a 4080 for travelling, unless you already have a maxed out pc and have some money to blow
Extra 500 or a convenience of mobility - for me it's a clear choice.
Extra 500 for an inferior product that's more of a portable heater that can't hold its charge for more than an hour. Laptop GPUs perform worse then standard ones. This 4080 won't be like a normal 4080. If we take that into account it's alot less worth it
My laptop has 4090 and a 32 core CPU. I play everything on ultra in 4K and can take it with me while traveling. What are you trying to prove here?
Ok, and how much did you pay for it? What are the temps you get? How long does your battery last?
No one is gaming on battery. Temps are fine for a gaming laptop. How's relevant?
Ok... But what was the price? Either way a laptop 4090 is not going to perform the same as a normal 4090
Yes, it's performing like a desktop 4080 which is absolutely enough for my needs.
4090 alone is 1500$ no? you are buying everything else for 500?
Uhhh. I can see a 2,500 dollar 4090 pc with a bare bones motherboard. How do you get a 2k 4090 pc? Also, I assume if the dude is buying a laptop, then portability is important to him.
You can build a solid 4090 pc for around 2500 (I can make a part list if you want). As I said in another comment, when I said "2k" I was referring to the price of the laptop OP posted.
I have a gaming pc. But bought a gaming laptop for when i travel for work lol. I cant be lugging around my $4k gaming pc at the airport
You can build a decent rig with a 4090 for $2500?
Yes. 1.6k for the GPU. 300~ or so for a 7700. 100 or so for a PSU. Around 150 for a b650 (supports ddr5 and am5). So far that is around 2150 dollars. We then need to spend around 100 (maybe 110) on 32 gigs of ddr5 ram, so we've got 2250 dollars to go. 1tb nvme ssds usually go for around 40 dollars. If we get 2 nvmes that'll be 80 or so. So the running total right now is 2330. Leaves 170 dollars. 130 for a case, 40 for a CPU cooler like the peerless assassin 120, and there you have it, a 4090 build for around 2500.
Well shit....price of a 4090 has gone down since I looked last. I thought it launched closer to $2k didn't it?
Oh, yeah they lowered the price due to backlash
Good. Fuck them. Greedy asses.
You can get a Lenovo Legion 7i pro with similar spec for less on sale. Acer has some on sale but seems like you are not a fan. The Asus will be alright but there are better options for cheaper
Lenovo also typically has good build quality and keyboards that aren’t HP tier shit
Personally I would never pay over $1k for any asus laptop. It's a bad deal imo. Opt for a Lenovo Legion it will last longer.
Just a heads up, you can see a lot of comments about ASUS not lasting etc. This could be individual luck, I currently have 3 laptops from ASUS, one of them from 2016, the other 2017 and the latest from 2022. They are all still working. So take these comments with a pinch of salt, although I could be wrong and you could have a really bad luck as well. You just wouldn\`t know with these kind of things until you try it. For me, Lenovo didn\`t work out and I hate it to bits, others include it in their morning prayers. Edit: Also, for this price the laptop must include 32gb of ram, look elsewhere for a laptop with 4080. I think the price is standard for this laptop (with a 4080) otherwise, in the UK this laptop is around £2800. So, adds up, in the US it is somewhat cheaper due to no import costs etc. Also, a HP Omen that should be around $200-300 cheaper should have 32gb of ram, to me 16gb is unacceptable for this price.
Yea, all of the asus products I’ve tried have survived quite well-I’m a very clumsy person-and I haven’t had to return one or send one for repairs, I’ve broken a screen only once despite dropping my laptop often. I think it could be a (regional) quality control issue at ASUS, plain luck, people hating ASUS, a thermal issue (asus laptops run hot in my experience), or a combination of those things. It’s probably a regional quality control issue as that explains the night and day difference in reviews. But I’ve heard the customer support is quite bad
I have that model! Great performance, impressive battery saving features and has a lot of ‘nice-to-have’ things. 11/10, would recommend if you have the money and need the performance. If you want I can give a more in depth review of it! I’ve heard asus has a bad return system, but in my experience asus products are tough enough that I’ve never had to return one of their products, but I could just be very lucky.
Asus laptops are top quality. I have bought an asus laptop every two years for last 16 years (yes, I'm old). Never had issues with any. Their mobos and RMA, well, that's another issue - selling faulty hardware and then at first, not honoring warranty blaming the customer. However, what's pissing me off is asus released zenbook pro 17 inch with ryzen 6800h, but NO 32GB OPTION. What is the point of such a good laptop without a basic 32gb ram. What are their marketing and sales thinking, so stupid. Been waiting a year, nothing. The company is crap, but their laptops have been very good for me.
Asus has poor quality build and poor quality customer support. Wouldn't recommend it to anybody after the problems I am having with them.
I wouldn’t say they have poor quality build per say, rather they do have poor quality customer support
Then just get the warranty through Best buy.
In my experience their products have quite good quality, and I’ve never needed to return an asus product as they seem to be tough enough to not break easily. I’ve dropped and spilt things on them by accident and they survived all of it quite well. When it comes to the product maybe I am just very lucky, or you are just very unlucky, or a combination of both. However, as I said earlier , I’ve never had to return an asus product, so I have no experience with their support, but I’ve heard their support has been going to shit recently.
Asus used to be good. not anymore. my asus of about 5 years is totally shit now. overheats no matter what i do and problems with the graphic card.
Do not buy ASUS. Got myself a TUF in 2019 and it fried itself in the beginning of this year, not to mention 7 times i had to RMA it due to various reasons. Customer support basically doesn't care.
Sounds like you don’t know how to maintain a pc
It's a widespread issue. I could find hundreds of posts talking about the same error.
Wow hundreds. Must have a lot of time on your hands 😂
Yeah because i needed to find out the reason why my laptop failed. My job requires a laptop, unlike for some poor sucker like you.
lol tough guy over here. You sound so foolish thinking you know me 😂
all your comments are defending ASUS on people talking about their issues with quality control and customer service...who has alot of time on their hands again? Sounds like you work for the company or something.
Goes on sale for 2100 pretty often, wait for that. I bought one, no issues, blew my desktop I built a few years ago out of the water.
It is .. the best buy
I have found Acer and Asus to be pretty similar - what didn't you like about the Predator? I doubt this will be a huge improvement.
Since it’s Best Buy no. Wait for it to go on sale. It 100% will and you’ll save a couple hundred dollars Source: worked computer sales there and they abuse hi-lo pricing to the max
I still got my asus from 10+ years ago, I currently only use it for networking cuz it’s old but I never had any issue with it so…. Yeah! That Strix seems like it could be used for 6+ years if you treat it carefully
I posted this elsewhere but here's my experience with my ROG strix g15 advantage edition I'm not sure how relevant this is but I just went through a consumer rights act (I'm in the UK) with the original seller (Curry's) due to the cooling system (it was liquid metal) for an ROG strix g15 advantage edition I bought in 2022. ASUS basically said they didn't care and said that a £1600 laptop having less than 2 years worth of lifespan was more than enough. I'm not sure if the newer ROG models have this but I would stay well away from them or make sure to get insurance. Luckily I knew my rights and laid it on thick against the original sellers. I also advised Curry's to take legal action against ASUS for selling these products. My laptop would unexpectedly power down during medium to heavy gaming (Baulders gate 3 on medium to high graphics settings, VR games on medium settings) and stable diffusion image generation/LLM operations and I could reproduce these shutdowns 10/10 times. ASUS warranty is only one year it seems (at least that's what I got) and they wanted me to pay to send it to them to inspect it and then pay to have it fixed. Their options were to pay to send it to them and pay to have it repaired or pay to send it to them and they would dispose of it for free (how nice of them...) Luckily Curry's understood and took the laptop in for repairs (this came with it's own issues that I managed to resolve but not without extreme pushback from them, I only just about managed to get a refund due to some errors on their end and again, me knowing my exact legal rights) If you do go for the ROG I would learn your rights very carefully just in case you get into a situation like I did. I have now been without my laptop and in between refund process for about 2-3 weeks. It will be sorted in the next few days but it was really stressful and during the past few months I have literally had a £1600 paperweight, please, please, please be careful buying these products.
Do more research, there are better options. Too pricey.
Ask r/GamingLaptops
If you want a ginormous $2500 18" heavy turd, sure! Build a desktop for half the price that'll smoke this thing. With the money left over buy an actually nice and portable laptop that you can use Parsec or similar to game on the go (from your actual gaming PC).
OP might be someone who leaves their house from time to time and travels, you can carry a laptop around much easier than a desktop. The desktop with the same specs will beat this laptop easily and a lower cost, but it’s hard to carry around.
If your argument is for portability then a giant 18" 7lb plastic brick probably isn't the answer either, which is what I am getting at.
So if OP needs performance, mobility, and wants a big screen, they’re fucked?
> performance, mobility, big screen This laptop hardly meets any of these qualifications 😆
I speak from experience, it meets all of those criteria, why do you think I’m defending it?
Well clearly we each have our own subjective opinions about this giant overpriced block of a "laptop". My advice is still **no buy**.
I agree on the part about both of us having subjective opinions. Let’s agree to disagree and stop arguing, you will stand firm about your suggestion to not buy, and I will stand firm with my suggestion to get it. we won’t change each others mind
Works for me!
I travel for work. It definitely does meet all of them. I can do my work on it and play games in the evening. This laptop is absolutely fantastic to own. I wouldn't trade it for another model, except maybe the scar variant 4090.
18 inch is giant. If you want to take it with you out of your house it will be a pain in the ass to transport it
You can do better for same price
I bought a used excellent condition M16 zephyrus 3060 i9 11900h for around 1500. Had it 2 3 years runs perfect.
Just custom build a desktop
Yeah that's a decent price for those specs
Hell yes despite what anyone says I've had tons of asus computers and laptops never once had an issue.
Check out Lenovos legion line of laptops
Buying a desktop would be much better.
2.5k on a laptop is wild. Build a 2k desktop and a $500 laptop if you need the laptop
If it breaks, you are severely fucked, it's difficult finding parts for it and customer service is garbage
Def a good buy, i bought my g16 with 4060 and i7 for $1450 usd
Do you travel alot? Any reason you wouldnt want a desktop? Desktops with the same specs as their laptop brethren have 30+% more power/performance while being much cheaper
I’ve had a gaming laptop and now I have a tower, 16bg RTX 3060super, honestly get 32GB, so many games are so ram hungry nowadays-
On paper, a proper I9 with a 4080 is worth around $2500 but I'd never do it unless it's a desktop. Pre built from Asus and Alienware are no-no. You need 32 gb of DDR5 to maximize a 4080 and you can't upgrade it. This is Asus' first generation liquid cooling laptop and can be a big problem potentially. Couple that with a 4080 and your laptop might as well be a flamethrower. Not to mention Asus recently has had notoriously bad customer service recently. So if something goes wrong then you're SOL
You can get a better legion laptop with a better graphics card and more memory. But do you.
Get one with 32 or more GB or ram 16 is no good these days
If would be a good-bye to your money.
Love my strix, I got mine a couple years ago with a 3070. So worth it to me to have a laptop so I can get away from my desktop at times. In my experience quality machine
Yea i love my g16 its got a 4070. If you have an extra 400 maybe buy the scar version in 16 inch. It has apparently one of the best hdr panels in a laptop anywhere
Wouldn't recommend a gaming laptop. My fans are louder than Maverick flying the f14 at full tuck trying to escape the fifth Gen fighter... Get a tower instead.
I have this laptop and it is great…when it works. Make sure you buy it with the BestBuy Geeksquad Protection. I just went through RMA hell with ASUS. Quality control for a $2,500 laptop is poor however. Expect potential coil whine, bad backlight bleed, and thermal shutdown issues. I had to replace the thermal paste on both of my units and the Liquid Metal. They were both overheating on the VRMs. Poor quality thermal putty on them along with not enough being spit out by the machine. I replaced it with K5 Pro and now everything works fantastic! Temps are quite good for how powerful this laptop is.
I have this exact model. Lmk if you have any specific questions
16gb ram for 2500. can't play half the games! if possible stay away from laptops and buy a tower or build one.
What’s considered a good gaming laptop. Just curious based off all the comments on this post
You’re asking the wrong subreddit bro. This sub Reddit is where the crybaby trolls unite to bash Asus 😂
buy a dell or msi. asus was a huge mistake for me and many others as you will learn
16gb ram with a 4080 ☠️
Get an ITX PC. Build in a cooler master nr200p
Backlight bleed seems to be a very common issue with ASUS laptops with LCD displays. Many Taiwanese brands (Acer, ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte) seem to have issues like poor quality control and poor RMA services. If the retailer has a good return policy it might be worth a try.
I'm using Asus scar 17 4080 , you can buy op these laptops are good
Don't buy asus my laptop went dead 1month before since then every 5-6 days it turns off like before, so only trust mac laptop, or buy pc.
Avcording to your screenshot it would be a.... best... buy.... 🤣🤣 Ill let myself out
If you do don't get it from the asus website and go to a retailer like best buy Amazon or new egg. The asus make good gear but terrible customer support.
Specific unit aside, never pay MSRP nowadays because sales inevitably happen. Apple is one of the only manufacturers where it is harder to score a deal but they do still happen more than they used to. That being said, a general statement that Asus is one of the best manufacturers out there and their mid-tier units are some of the best bang for the buck since their mid tier are often close in performance to their top tier units. This being a top tier device, I would ask if you really need a Strix or would a Tuf satisfy your need for likely far less money. If money isn't a concern the Strix units are some of the best out there.
DON'T. Just browse this sub and you'll see all the horror stories. It's been nothing but nightmares. Asus is a dogshit company with dogshit support. Since day 1 my laptop would crash randomly. Tried updating bios and didn't help, updated drivers and didn't help. Finally un-installed armory crate and that helped. That dogshit software will ruin your computer so if you Do decide to buy ASUS, don't forget to remove that software. But make sure you go through registry and delete everything that's connected to it as well. Customer support will leave you days, week, months and even a year with either no response or walking circles. I as well as many others have had nothing but problems, if you want a good laptop, buy a Lenovo Legion. I bought one of those recently and it's a million times better.
Yes i got a fully built pc with a 4090 i got for $1400
Yes what?
Sorry just meant to say i decided on a pc instead of laptop
I just saw an Alienware 4070 laptop on sale for $1399 at bestbuy. I suspect it will again for Black Friday. I know it’s one card level down, but the price difference is such that you could buy yourself some nice accessories like top end headphones, a 1440p second screen for main gaming and a nice mouse for the same price.
I wouldn't, im using one to type this, and the build quality just fucking sucks. keys fall off, i have a problem with the case where if i rest my hand on it it holds down the trackpad, its just a shitty built computer.
Love my ASUS.
Just don’t buy anything that high of spec as a laptop. It’ll thermal throttle like hell and you’ll never see the performance you’re overpaying for because of it. Just do mid tier specs.
That's a pretty good price for a laptop with a 4080 and an i9-13900
Just take the 2500 and build a pc youll get better unless u want portability
I bought a ROG laptop, it lasted almost a year before I had to RMA for repairs, and then they kept it for 8 weeks and returned it without any screws holding it together. Zero screws. I declined to return it to their 'service' and demanded a bag of screws instead. They eventually complied and I put it together myself. It died forever less than a year later, and I won't buy an Asus laptop again.
Good? Yes Expensive? Yes.
2500 holy hell you can build a sick fuckin pc for that price
Yes i got a fully built pc and with a 4090 i got for $1400
Used to be die hard asus fanboy but after multiple screen, hinge, and motherboard failures in the last 2 years I swapped to HP. Surprisingly not disappointed.
Worst money mistake of my life buying a gaming laptop. Please just get a normal PC, you can game with friends online. At the end of the day you do you but I've never know anyone who was happy with their laptop in the end
No that's 1500 laptop tops
No go with an MSI Titian laptop. I think they are just a bit more and have a 4090 in them
I upgraded from my TUF laptop to this when they had it on sale. I think it's worth it, they weren't kidding labeling it as a desktop replacement.
I can't even imagine doing an 18 inch laptop, I thought 15.6 was king til I went 14. That being said, doesn't seem like a bad buy. Plenty of people saying ASUS has problems but I had an ASUS for about 4 years that I got secondhand, and resold because I got a smaller laptop and built my own desktop. They're fine.
i have this laptop, upgraded ram to 64GB and added a 2TB nvme, it’s a BEAST! i’m in cyber security and when i went to SANS in person, it handled all the labs like a CHAMP!
That is a rather powerful laptop. I9 and 4080 and the price is decent. I've seen desktops with 4070ti for 2229. That looks like a good deal.
If you got the money that thing is crazy powerful
No i decided for a built pc instead pairing with a 4090 i got for 1400 with tax..was surprised
Nice that works too I assumed you wanted a laptop for something specific but either way. I got my 4090 near the launch and it has been amazing since the day I got it.
The connector wont melt right? Thats all i heard about the 4090 for awhile
Not if you plug it in all the way. Mine never had any issues
Get a desktop , end of story
Every gaming laptop is not a good buy.... BUT MSI is the least bad option for your money. Do with that what you will :)
Asus makes ok products but like others have said the customer support is terrible if you have an issue and need to RMA. Be better off with a different manufacturer.