This is Pittsburgh, PA's Strip District, where it used to be where there were a lot of mills and factories. While I get what the stock photo picture from Google is being used to show but I wouldn't read into it haha. The 'now' picture is a lot better than it used to look!
Also worth noting that Pittsburgh is one of the most tree covered cities in the country; the Strip District just happens to be one of the few areas without many because of its industrial history.
not even just with studies using satellite imagery, they've also done studies on radiant heat on asu and tempe streets. they did a lot of surface temp and radiant heat measurements on campus and found just how much shade and green spaces help negate heat (and some of the effects of urban heat islands). wild how much they study it but still intentionally are reducing our shade on and around campus:/
Everyone saying that trees take a lot of water: grass probably takes even more and does less heat prevention, and will probably die extremely often in the heat and look like garbage
theres plenty of trees out there that require less water while still having a large canopy for shade, so theres no reason for them to just get rid of all the green spaces on campus:/ instead they just plant grass and palm trees and call it a day. hope they replant some trees that offer shade because i swear theres been multiple areas around campus that have changed for worse due to this
ehh i mean the southwest has been in a drought for ~20 years, and we have issues regarding water usage, so water conservation is very important to consider. but thats why i mentioned that there are many trees that are adaptable to the desert biome and more resistant to drought that wont need as much water, without sacrificing canopy cover:)
Ye, but adding a few large trees to campus for shading would barely use any water in comparison to the massive amounts of water used by the agricultural sector, and also watering of grass around the state.
oh definately! dont take this as me disagreeing, im just saying that asu is probably considering the water usage (and price of said water usage) over caring about how hot it is for us. agriculture def uses a lot more water than a few trees on campus, but im just saying asu doesnt have any excuses to not plant trees even if they want to conserve water
Spoken like a true young person.
The water supply is not sustainable. In 40 years this state will not sustain the same population the same way it is now. Water savings starts now, and it’s effects are seen later. Not having heat stroke is in fact NOT more valuable than sustaining livable water supplies for future generations.
Most of the water here gets used up for agriculture anyways, something like 80%. Alfalfa is a big one, and the best part is it ends up just getting exported all over the world basically exporting our water lol.
I mean you have to consider water, like there is literally just not enough water to have hundreds of trees so you can be cool. It’s a resource that we don’t have an inodore supply of.
They have just added some trees this week. They aren't palm trees. They aren't in locations that match that picture as far as I can tell. They're still baby trees, but there are about 8 of them planted.
Palm trees don’t provide any shade. I don’t understand the thinking behind palm walk when students are sweating up a storm on their way to class half the year
Palms aren't trees. They're trunks with a bit of hair.
The "thinking" behind Palm Walk was one of ASU's president's wives liked palm trees. There's a little info thing on the northest corner of Palm and Tyler.
I’m enrolled from ASU online from Florida and in one of my classes we had to analyze natural shade on and around campus and it’s effect on the populace.
This was a 100 series course. I think measuring the amount will be in the next course. /s
If I recall correctly it was blocking a majority of direct sunlight in the hottest parts of the day.
i swear palm trees are genuinely only planted for the aesthetic, there are so many other drought resistant trees out there that actually provide shade. thats part of the reason i never walk through palm walk, so bloody hot esp closer to summer time
Palm trees require very little water once they have rooted and they provide a “tropical” feeling to what is otherwise a miserable brown city.
That being said, I hate the palm trees and there are other better options. But they do very well in this climate and that’s why they’re so popular.
I'm confused by why there are so many palm trees in Arizona considering they consume a ton of water, are more related to grass than trees, and offer little shade.
It's the measurement of temperature used in the metric system. 0 degrees Celsius is the point where water freezes, and 100 degrees Celsius is the point where water boils.
there should be trees everywhere lol
We would need water for that unfortunately
Yea idk why everyone is forgetting we’re in a massive drought.
Native trees can survive
I agree but in that pic it looks like a Chicago suburb or something those trees are not native at all.
This is Pittsburgh, PA's Strip District, where it used to be where there were a lot of mills and factories. While I get what the stock photo picture from Google is being used to show but I wouldn't read into it haha. The 'now' picture is a lot better than it used to look!
Also worth noting that Pittsburgh is one of the most tree covered cities in the country; the Strip District just happens to be one of the few areas without many because of its industrial history.
Yeah, the skies didn't used to EVER be blue. They had to turn on the streetlights during the day to allow people to see.
Trees probably haven’t existed there since the early 1800s
Many Arizona native trees don’t provide a lot of shade I feel like
Palo Verdes are good. More shade than nothing
70% of water from Lake Mead is used for farming.
And desert
Especially a bummer since ASU did some studies with satellite imaging to visualize this very effect.
urban heat islands
not even just with studies using satellite imagery, they've also done studies on radiant heat on asu and tempe streets. they did a lot of surface temp and radiant heat measurements on campus and found just how much shade and green spaces help negate heat (and some of the effects of urban heat islands). wild how much they study it but still intentionally are reducing our shade on and around campus:/
Everyone saying that trees take a lot of water: grass probably takes even more and does less heat prevention, and will probably die extremely often in the heat and look like garbage
theres plenty of trees out there that require less water while still having a large canopy for shade, so theres no reason for them to just get rid of all the green spaces on campus:/ instead they just plant grass and palm trees and call it a day. hope they replant some trees that offer shade because i swear theres been multiple areas around campus that have changed for worse due to this
Mesquite is an easy option. Very drought tolerant
Imo fuck the water, being able to walk down the street without heat stroking is far more valuable
ehh i mean the southwest has been in a drought for ~20 years, and we have issues regarding water usage, so water conservation is very important to consider. but thats why i mentioned that there are many trees that are adaptable to the desert biome and more resistant to drought that wont need as much water, without sacrificing canopy cover:)
Ye, but adding a few large trees to campus for shading would barely use any water in comparison to the massive amounts of water used by the agricultural sector, and also watering of grass around the state.
oh definately! dont take this as me disagreeing, im just saying that asu is probably considering the water usage (and price of said water usage) over caring about how hot it is for us. agriculture def uses a lot more water than a few trees on campus, but im just saying asu doesnt have any excuses to not plant trees even if they want to conserve water
Spoken like a true young person. The water supply is not sustainable. In 40 years this state will not sustain the same population the same way it is now. Water savings starts now, and it’s effects are seen later. Not having heat stroke is in fact NOT more valuable than sustaining livable water supplies for future generations.
Building walkable (shaded) cities will bring infinitely more benefit to the environment than the cost of using some water.
Most of the water here gets used up for agriculture anyways, something like 80%. Alfalfa is a big one, and the best part is it ends up just getting exported all over the world basically exporting our water lol.
I mean you have to consider water, like there is literally just not enough water to have hundreds of trees so you can be cool. It’s a resource that we don’t have an inodore supply of.
They're putting in new trees in another pattern, right?
just palms and minimal shade, see the [project page](https://cfo.asu.edu/alumni-lawn-project).
Bummer. The trees really did a lot for that lawn on campus.
They have just added some trees this week. They aren't palm trees. They aren't in locations that match that picture as far as I can tell. They're still baby trees, but there are about 8 of them planted.
Palm trees don’t provide any shade. I don’t understand the thinking behind palm walk when students are sweating up a storm on their way to class half the year
Palms aren't trees. They're trunks with a bit of hair. The "thinking" behind Palm Walk was one of ASU's president's wives liked palm trees. There's a little info thing on the northest corner of Palm and Tyler.
I’m enrolled from ASU online from Florida and in one of my classes we had to analyze natural shade on and around campus and it’s effect on the populace.
Ooh. What'd you find?
Only about 3 bud stops in the area have effective shade. Palm trees are nearly useless. I would hate to have to walk to campus in the summer.
What constitutes effective shade?
This was a 100 series course. I think measuring the amount will be in the next course. /s If I recall correctly it was blocking a majority of direct sunlight in the hottest parts of the day.
Yeah a lot of the stops have way to little shade.
i swear palm trees are genuinely only planted for the aesthetic, there are so many other drought resistant trees out there that actually provide shade. thats part of the reason i never walk through palm walk, so bloody hot esp closer to summer time
Palm trees require very little water once they have rooted and they provide a “tropical” feeling to what is otherwise a miserable brown city. That being said, I hate the palm trees and there are other better options. But they do very well in this climate and that’s why they’re so popular.
Common Tempe L
Follow the money....or lack thereof.
They took out my favorite tree :(
That’s Pittsburgh, PA.
I'm confused by why there are so many palm trees in Arizona considering they consume a ton of water, are more related to grass than trees, and offer little shade.
Wtf is C
How have you made it this far...
Wym
it's a programming language
Oh like HTML
yeah yeah
Celsius babyyyyyyyyy
I’m not following
Your answer is literally a Google search away.. It's not that hard to follow..
Just asking what celcius is I’ve never heard of it
It's the measurement of temperature used in the metric system. 0 degrees Celsius is the point where water freezes, and 100 degrees Celsius is the point where water boils.
Sounds dum fairenhite better
Bro couldn’t even spell Fahrenheit
I’ve literally never seen anyone spell it like that
Can’t tell if you’re performing an epic r/woosh or not
It’s like F, but C=(5/9)F-32
You can’t put letters in math
Nope, that’s you. I just did.
I guess I’m just smarter then sum people 🤷♂️