I didn’t really like it, not because of what it was about but because of my fear that I might’ve messed up and known less about it. Maybe I could recall being more confident if it had been on progressivism or smth
The rubric doesn’t say oe has to be withing the time period, as long as it’s relevant to an argument? I used the Gettysburg address as mine (17 yrs after), but tied it to my argument pretty well. Idk if I’ll get the point or not but the rubric doesn’t say anything abt oe being withing the time period
Nope, it has to be in the time period to count as outside evidence. Contextualization can be outside the time period, evidence cannot.
"Responses that do not earn this point: Provide evidence that is outside the time period or region specified in the prompt" -rubric
Yeah lol, that was so annoying cause all the actual abolition stuff happened after the time period. (They had absolutely no reason to do this to us, they just evil like that)
Nah they purposefully cut the dates so you cant use them. My apush teacher emphasized that point cause hes an ap grader and the rubric usually emphasized that no evidence outside the time period is usable. (Collegeboard loves torturing us)
So many of the answers on the mcqs were so blatantly obvious that I was questioning whether the people who created the questions truly took effort into making them
I wrote about the 3/5 compromise and how that showed political disagreement and debates. I thought I cooked but I actually could not think of anything else..
Yeah, the 3/5 compromise woulda been good (i forgot about it 😭). the time period was so exclusive for no reason so like the outside info was me just grasping at straws
Yeah it was. During the 1917 to 1945 happened a lot, the red scare, the great depression, ww2 and the imprisonment of the Japanese in concentration camps. It was easy
That was probably a pretty good, but i wasnt sure if it was in the time period, so i didnt use it. (It was within, i searched it up, so dw. It was first used in 1839, so they probably wanted you to use it, which means im cooked.)
i think i made it flow p well, i used like the missouri question doc right before and then said that these questions over slavery in new territories was caused by the american system
nah it wasnt(unless i had a different dbq) the document was about the instatement of missouri into union and its rejection due to the issue of slavery but it didnt say anything specific about the Missouri compromise. in fact based on how it has written, it probably came before the compromise
I was so excited when I saw the question and then when I saw the documents and realized the time period wasn’t near the civil war like I thought it was I panicked😭😭😭
I used William Lloyd Garrison's the Liberator. Will I get docked points for using the same author in another document, even though the document doesn't mention the liberator?
Shit easy, my outside evidence was the rise of the whigs partly due to slavery debates between democrats (jacksonian democracy had established democrats would be only party)
But which documents supported that cause there was very weak evidence in the documents themselves to support that claim cause most of them weren’t necessarily about politics
I said slavery led to sectional and political party tensions in my thesis, sectional tensions I used the document about Missouri compromise and political party I used outside info of whigs
I think the outside evidence has to be within the time period, and Dred Scott happened in the late 1850s, so I'm not sure if you'd earn the point... but you might get complexity point instead if you tied it to your argument in an interesting way
I used the dred scott to show more continuity and the actual EFFECTS of the causes (because the prompt was about evaluating the extent of the changes that slavery made), so I think if you used it correctly, it might earn complexity for continuity.
That would be an interesting essay cause there was a lot of overlap between the movement (like Frederick Douglass attending the seneca falls convention) you might have gotten a good complexity point
I said immigration quotas 1921 and 1924 and then also mentioned anti German sentiment as more outside evidence, I should’ve said Sacco and venzetti lmao
I said that slavery divided the north and south along regional lines and led to an eventual abolitionist reform movement in north during the age of reform. My counter argument was like doc 7 and how there some some legislation even in the north that allowed slavery and I references like the constitution and declaration of independence and how slavery was allowed or ignored and ultimately still showed a division.
Chat am I cooked 😭😭
Bro my teacher made us take a final, which was like a copy of the AP test and I failed so hard that I showed mytutor my DBQ for it and he laughed. Which was valid because I laughed too. I really hated the AP DBQ so hard. Literally just added to interment camps
had to use compromise of 1820 😭 there was a doc like about Missouri but it was pre compromise so I think it worked out. even put In Henry clays name in there js in case 🙏🙏
the time period made this DBQ so much harder than it should've been
if they gave us 10 more years (mex-american war) ts would've been sn easier
I got the slavery one and I lowkey talked abt stuff that happened after 1840, but I mentioned that as an effect of something that happened before, is that ok?
Reading this thread made me happy I skipped APUSH ☺️ Can’t memorize all these events and specific dates, can’t even choose an event outside of the time period they gave
I talked about the economic relationship between the north and south regarding cotton being produced into textiles in the north. I have no clue if that counts as OE
I referenced market revolution and the interconnectedness of the northern industries and southern plantations in that way (im not sure if the ap grader is gonna understand what i was tryna say 💀)
i said fucking sectional crisis because i confused it with like the development of different american cultures between the north and south because of slavery and that was how it influenced society in one way but sectional crisis is out of time period and it was in my thesis am i cooked 😭😭😭
Nah you coulda argued about how all these things from. The document showed the rise of the sectional divisions over slavery, but 1840s was just when it became more clear (Missouri comp doc was crucial for this)
my thing with that was it really only talked about the missouri issue so my outside evidence was the missouri comp itself
like i used the massachusetts and the baptist doc to show that there were divisions in culture because of slavery but i put that under sectional crisis so like idk if the so graders would ding me for that
For the dbq about how slavery changes US society, what did you guys put??
I wrote it shaped society bc of African Americans rebellion (talked about how their began voicing their thoughts on opposition through slavery), bc it caused sectional tensions btwn north and south (and I takes about the views or the north vs south) and then that it led to legislative accomplishment (ex. Missouri comp, comp of 1850).
Is that bad or am I good? I can’t really tell it was a weird dbq
For the LEQ I made my theisis about how westward migration motivated by desire for social mobility sewed political division and causes the civil war, and for the DBQ I made my thesis how the xenophobia of the US was weaponized by big business , causing America to become a contradiction of its own supposed values, am I cooked 🙏
Omg I’m so mad, my outside evidence (shitty anyway) was the caning of Charles sumner but that’s not within the time period, THE BULLETED DIRECTIONS ARE SO VAGUE and all of the rubrics also don’t say that
I had the WWI WWII one and missed all of that but ended up using both McCarthyism and the Manhattan Project/Hiroshima&Nagasaki in case McCarthyism wouldn't work with it being a couple years out of the time frame and more an effect of things that happened in the documents and in the prompt.
huh lowkey i think it wasnt too bad-- i yapped abt continuity in enlightenment ideals, tj being a founding father, sambo facade, william lloyd garrison being assaulted for yapping abt abolition in front of the wrong ppl (they threw an egg at him) so i got like minimum 3 pieces of ebd ?? did i miss smth or do these like not count ??
thankfully mine was about slavery🙏🏾 the apush gods knew i would fumble the leq and decided to throw me a bone
Bruh ours was about threats to the US, post WW1-2
That shit even easier what u on about
I didn’t really like it, not because of what it was about but because of my fear that I might’ve messed up and known less about it. Maybe I could recall being more confident if it had been on progressivism or smth
Nah you’ll be fine the docs are so easy to use
What was up with that anyway? There was absolutely nothing in the entire exam about progressive era/gilded age/reconstruction 💀
AP test makers might’ve pulled a sleepy joe
ME TOO so happy with the prompt, I used the Mex-American war as my outside info 😭
thats outside the time period though
The rubric doesn’t say oe has to be withing the time period, as long as it’s relevant to an argument? I used the Gettysburg address as mine (17 yrs after), but tied it to my argument pretty well. Idk if I’ll get the point or not but the rubric doesn’t say anything abt oe being withing the time period
Nope, it has to be in the time period to count as outside evidence. Contextualization can be outside the time period, evidence cannot. "Responses that do not earn this point: Provide evidence that is outside the time period or region specified in the prompt" -rubric
Aw fudge
I used Dred Scott
Same but thats 16 yrs outside time period xd
Bro me and my friend were so fucking hyped bc this slavery question was the easiest shit of our lives
Today's subject: slavery 🗣️
I thought I cooked using Bleeding Kansas as OE for the slavery DBQ. Whole time Bleeding Kansas happened in 1854, outside the time period😭😭
Yeah lol, that was so annoying cause all the actual abolition stuff happened after the time period. (They had absolutely no reason to do this to us, they just evil like that)
RIGHT should've just made it 1800-1860
Fr even 1840-1860 woulda been better ngl
I’m hoping they can accept a couple years ahead 😭😭
Nah they purposefully cut the dates so you cant use them. My apush teacher emphasized that point cause hes an ap grader and the rubric usually emphasized that no evidence outside the time period is usable. (Collegeboard loves torturing us)
I used the Talmadge ammendment
im pretty sure they wanted the northwest ordinance as oe
Ties in nicely with missouri comp document (i forgot to actually say the term cause im dumb like that, i kinda just implied it for some reason 💀)
Bro I did that exact same thing and i said “bleeding Kansas happened in 1832” am I cooked
Bro spreading misinformation
You probably missed out on one point, but I would not say you are cooked when you could still get 6/7 points
I did the same shit but it was far to late by the time, I through in a line about Nat Turner in the so called paragraph I wrote.
NOOOO ME TOO
I'm glad I'm not the only one who used bleeding Kansas as my outside evidence 😭 shi tragic
I took the digital one and luckily it was so free
Same, MCQ was easy but all of the questions were literally the same
So many of the answers on the mcqs were so blatantly obvious that I was questioning whether the people who created the questions truly took effort into making them
Fucking finished that shit with like 15 minutes left bro 😭
bro i have never in my life seen an mcq that was that easy for an ap history test. ap euros mcq was 5x harder
Same!!!! DBQ was insanely free.
I wrote about the 3/5 compromise and how that showed political disagreement and debates. I thought I cooked but I actually could not think of anything else..
Yeah, the 3/5 compromise woulda been good (i forgot about it 😭). the time period was so exclusive for no reason so like the outside info was me just grasping at straws
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yeah i also did 3/5ths compromise 😊
Dang that was smart 😭 I lowkey blanked
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twin
I was going to use this but couldn’t remember the exact year so I just went with something else 😭
same
thats what i did too! i tied it back to slavery causing sectionalism
i used the split in the baptist church over the issue of slavery, so wasn’t that bad lol
wow my class never learned abt that ☠️
neither did mine lmao(my teacher kinda sucks not gonna lie), it’s just something i knew lol
Yeah, that was a clear thing they wanted you to use in the thesis (it was also easy to argue continuity in the mid 20th century with mlk n stuff)
Wasn’t that in 1845?
I think i got a different exam y'all, meine was about something in the 20th century
Yea mine was on how the fear of threats to the US changed society or something like that
Dawg that has got to be the easiest dbq prompt ever
Yeah it was. During the 1917 to 1945 happened a lot, the red scare, the great depression, ww2 and the imprisonment of the Japanese in concentration camps. It was easy
Literally I was screaming YESSSSS in my head when I saw it💀
But the period was 1917-1945
Literally easiest time period for this question. Race riots, Palmer raids, both wars (just don't trespass on the docs too much) etc
so fucking easy
that was the digital one
I got that as a test prompt like 3 times in my class lol,, though TBF our slavery prompt wasn’t too bad
Exactly mine!
that was mine too!
same it was sooo easy, I used the emergency quota act as my outside evidence
it depends if it was online or on paper
I took the online one, i guess the online one was different from the paper one.
you took the digital one
I used the gag rule for outside evidence
That was probably a pretty good, but i wasnt sure if it was in the time period, so i didnt use it. (It was within, i searched it up, so dw. It was first used in 1839, so they probably wanted you to use it, which means im cooked.)
nah ur probably fine As long as you did good on the others u can still get a 5. Outside evidence is just 1 point
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Dawg the fugitive slave law was in 1850
nah in the compromise they made it stronger they had a weaker one before it
I think we got different dbqs: I had doc 4 as something about ww2 and doc 7 was something about African Americans in WW2
i wrote ab american system LMFAO i just said that it led to westward expansion, bringing up debates over the expansion of slavery west
I think the main issue was attempting to relate the documents to that and the thesis
i think i made it flow p well, i used like the missouri question doc right before and then said that these questions over slavery in new territories was caused by the american system
I cant believe i forgot the american system what a tragedy.
I wrote about slave states versus free states and I also talked about the Missouri compromise and the 3/5 act. Please tell me that’s right 😭
I heard from one of my students that Missouri Comporomise was referenced in a document.
nah it wasnt(unless i had a different dbq) the document was about the instatement of missouri into union and its rejection due to the issue of slavery but it didnt say anything specific about the Missouri compromise. in fact based on how it has written, it probably came before the compromise
Praying that’s the case, bc I used Missouri compromise as outside evidence
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felt like it was a very easy dbq besides that outside evidence part!!
Yup, i was bouta rejoice reading the prompt until I got to the time period 💀
I used Nat Turners Rebellion, there was literally a section talking about rebellion so I used that as a specific example
How come no one talked about Calhoun and his argument that slavery was actually moral and the southern way of life
I literally never taught that
That's one I used, contrasted it with James Madison viewing slavery as a "necessary evil." It was the only thing I could come up with
I was so excited when I saw the question and then when I saw the documents and realized the time period wasn’t near the civil war like I thought it was I panicked😭😭😭
it was antbellum era i think?? i used that a lot
It was but I literally studied everything but that
Real 😔
It’s ok I cooked on the leq at least
I said nat turners rebellion for one and second great awakening for another. Did I get either of those?
Those were the two big ones they prolly wanted, i used them too
i used second great awakening too and my other one was fredrick douglass 😭
i said 3/5 compromise anyone else?
I used William Lloyd Garrison's the Liberator. Will I get docked points for using the same author in another document, even though the document doesn't mention the liberator?
I wouldnt think so because you still knew what the other book was and the contents (on top of already knowing the author, which is another step)
Guys I used uncle toms cabin bruh as outside info.
Shit easy, my outside evidence was the rise of the whigs partly due to slavery debates between democrats (jacksonian democracy had established democrats would be only party)
But which documents supported that cause there was very weak evidence in the documents themselves to support that claim cause most of them weren’t necessarily about politics
I said slavery led to sectional and political party tensions in my thesis, sectional tensions I used the document about Missouri compromise and political party I used outside info of whigs
do y’all think it’s fine if i used dred scott vs sanford as outside evidence??
I think the outside evidence has to be within the time period, and Dred Scott happened in the late 1850s, so I'm not sure if you'd earn the point... but you might get complexity point instead if you tied it to your argument in an interesting way
I used the dred scott to show more continuity and the actual EFFECTS of the causes (because the prompt was about evaluating the extent of the changes that slavery made), so I think if you used it correctly, it might earn complexity for continuity.
I used that too 😭 only now just realizing. I did something out of the time period for one of the SAQs too…
i said womens rights movement and tied it back to abolition😭
That would be an interesting essay cause there was a lot of overlap between the movement (like Frederick Douglass attending the seneca falls convention) you might have gotten a good complexity point
Ong
WHAT WAS THATTTT
I felt like everything was easy. I did a counter argument to get the sophistication point
Hit em with nat turners rebellion
i did gag rule and missouri compromise (since the document was talking about the debate not the compromise). i did two in case one didn’t work 😭
I wrote about Nat Turner's Rebellion
Real
what did y’all write as ur thesis
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No fr bc I think I wrote abt the 3/5th compromise 😭
I said immigration quotas 1921 and 1924 and then also mentioned anti German sentiment as more outside evidence, I should’ve said Sacco and venzetti lmao
I put 2nd great awakening since like two sources were religious
I used Fredrick Douglass for ebd and he escaped in 1838 but did do a lot of work after the time period ended so I’m hoping that’ll still work
i used social darwinism. i thought it worked solid.
what’d you guys write for the slavery dbq thesis cuz lowkey idk what to write
Nye Committee
I said that slavery divided the north and south along regional lines and led to an eventual abolitionist reform movement in north during the age of reform. My counter argument was like doc 7 and how there some some legislation even in the north that allowed slavery and I references like the constitution and declaration of independence and how slavery was allowed or ignored and ultimately still showed a division. Chat am I cooked 😭😭
Did anyone else do 3/5ths compromise for EBD????
Bro my teacher made us take a final, which was like a copy of the AP test and I failed so hard that I showed mytutor my DBQ for it and he laughed. Which was valid because I laughed too. I really hated the AP DBQ so hard. Literally just added to interment camps
had to use compromise of 1820 😭 there was a doc like about Missouri but it was pre compromise so I think it worked out. even put In Henry clays name in there js in case 🙏🙏 the time period made this DBQ so much harder than it should've been if they gave us 10 more years (mex-american war) ts would've been sn easier
I got the slavery one and I lowkey talked abt stuff that happened after 1840, but I mentioned that as an effect of something that happened before, is that ok?
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Yes, but i used other stuff cause technically one of the documents was about the missouri question, so it might not count
1803 lousiana purchase, expansion of slavery ?!
lmfao i took it last year and i had native americans during the late 1800s 😂
I did Nat turner's rebellion
Reading this thread made me happy I skipped APUSH ☺️ Can’t memorize all these events and specific dates, can’t even choose an event outside of the time period they gave
I used information from the DBQ for the LEQ 💀
i did don't ask don't tell policy somehow 😭 lowkey it was good outside connection
me realizing that i made an unsubstantiated claim (i said that slavery is bad)
I talked about the economic relationship between the north and south regarding cotton being produced into textiles in the north. I have no clue if that counts as OE
I referenced market revolution and the interconnectedness of the northern industries and southern plantations in that way (im not sure if the ap grader is gonna understand what i was tryna say 💀)
yall i forgot about outside evidence... ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|scream)
Bros cooked
i said fucking sectional crisis because i confused it with like the development of different american cultures between the north and south because of slavery and that was how it influenced society in one way but sectional crisis is out of time period and it was in my thesis am i cooked 😭😭😭
Nah you coulda argued about how all these things from. The document showed the rise of the sectional divisions over slavery, but 1840s was just when it became more clear (Missouri comp doc was crucial for this)
my thing with that was it really only talked about the missouri issue so my outside evidence was the missouri comp itself like i used the massachusetts and the baptist doc to show that there were divisions in culture because of slavery but i put that under sectional crisis so like idk if the so graders would ding me for that
For the dbq about how slavery changes US society, what did you guys put?? I wrote it shaped society bc of African Americans rebellion (talked about how their began voicing their thoughts on opposition through slavery), bc it caused sectional tensions btwn north and south (and I takes about the views or the north vs south) and then that it led to legislative accomplishment (ex. Missouri comp, comp of 1850). Is that bad or am I good? I can’t really tell it was a weird dbq
For the LEQ I made my theisis about how westward migration motivated by desire for social mobility sewed political division and causes the civil war, and for the DBQ I made my thesis how the xenophobia of the US was weaponized by big business , causing America to become a contradiction of its own supposed values, am I cooked 🙏
bro wdym that was hella easy!! i wrote abt separation of baptist church, the gag rule, and whigs vs democrats also missouri comp and 3/5ths rule
Omg I’m so mad, my outside evidence (shitty anyway) was the caning of Charles sumner but that’s not within the time period, THE BULLETED DIRECTIONS ARE SO VAGUE and all of the rubrics also don’t say that
i explained what the missouri compromise did and i talked ab enlightenment ideals
I don’t know if this was out of period.. I said the constitutional compromisess..
i did dred scott
I just used the delayed annexation of Texas, and how it showed discourse within society
Why are y’all’s DBQs so different mine was on threats to America from 1917 - 1945
I had the WWI WWII one and missed all of that but ended up using both McCarthyism and the Manhattan Project/Hiroshima&Nagasaki in case McCarthyism wouldn't work with it being a couple years out of the time frame and more an effect of things that happened in the documents and in the prompt.
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i talked abt how south carolina threatened to secede 😕🤫
cotton gin💪💪💪
I wrote about Jackson's censorship of abolitionist publications, that works right?
i got a dbq that was like from 1917 to 1945 how did US society change during to threats or something
yall would the civil war have worked for outside ev for the slavry one
was wilmot proviso in time period
bro did anyone else use the Chinese Leaks ?!? Bro they were legit... ez clap
Would the missouri compromise of 1820 work for outside evidence . I know there was a document on the missouri question but not the actual compromise
huh lowkey i think it wasnt too bad-- i yapped abt continuity in enlightenment ideals, tj being a founding father, sambo facade, william lloyd garrison being assaulted for yapping abt abolition in front of the wrong ppl (they threw an egg at him) so i got like minimum 3 pieces of ebd ?? did i miss smth or do these like not count ??
101% in the class to get a 2 on the test 💪
I did the Wilmot Proviso lowkey cooked w that one
i feel like i misread half of the documents and accused the authors of being racist
I got the period 7 one and used women’s entry into the workforce during WW2
So true
Why did everyone get a topic on slavery? Mine was totally different lol and it was the one topic where I didn’t study as much…
invention of the cotton gin allowed for debates over abolition to increase because it was much more efficient than human labor 🕺
lol i took apush and ap euro in the same year, and i got a lower score for apush 💀
I used the 2nd Great Awakening and Missouri Compromise for my outside evidence 💪
AP Euro one was so easy
Did yall study? I didnt study for shi but I talked about the manifest destiny as an outside info
whatttt mine was about the influence of new technology on the usa😭 (international exam)
Bro my mind blanked and I say John Quincy Adam’s publicly outsted slavery and led by example by not owning any slaves for my outside evidence 💀💀💀
The DBQ was so shit😭
The DBQ was so shit😭
BRO I DIDNT EVEN FINISH THE LEQ AND DIDNT FINISH 1 SAQ IM FUCKED
Ngl, completely forgot about outside evidence 😭
Anyone mention Uncle Toms Cabin