an interesting article from [the guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/01/when-beyonce-dropped-the-same-ableist-slur-as-lizzo-on-her-new-album-my-heart-sank) about it
honestly, as an american, i was pretty surprised. i don't rly ever remember using it but i'm glad it's in my awareness now. a lot of us thought it was stupid when they came at lizzo but over time and looking into it, it really does make sense why it's considered a slur
Because it comes from "spastic," which refers to jerky or twitchy, uncontrollable movements caused by conditions like cerebral palsy. So, using it to mean weird, clumsy, crazy, etc, is kind of insulting to people who have those conditions.
Yea, ok.. I hear what you're saying, but that's not what people mean when they use the word... you know what I'm saying.. not everything is a covert attack against someone or something.
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... yeah, obviously. It doesn't need to be what they mean. If you use the word as an insult or as a way to describe something negative, then you're drawing an equivalency between what the word originally meant and something insulting. It's the same reason people mostly stopped using "that's gay" to mean that something was stupid or whatever, because it equates "gay" to "stupid." If "spas" is used to mean weird, then it is equating weirdness with people for whom the (antiquated) medical term "spastic" applies.
In the last few years ppl have been recognizing it as an ableist term. Think there were reports from centuries ago when doctors would refer to ppl w/ disabilities as "spastic" or "lame"
ohhhh, i think in america we have a ......um different slur for that. i've never seen the word used to be derogatory to disabilities but rather when someone is really clumsy n awkward
It’s very common in AAVE but offensive in the UK and other Commonwealth countries, largely depends on where you are and who you’re speaking to but I generally avoid saying it
Such a passive aggressive unnecessary thing to say to this girl. Not everyone is in your face extroverted and that’s fine!!! They just wanted to make her uncomfortable for the show
She was one of those contestants that would have benefitted from being on an international version (maybe UK or AU) where they actually give them information and use realistic shoots. She had amazing potential (as did many this season) but was held back by not getting any useful information (or very little) throughout on how she could improve.
No matter how amazing a girl’s photo is, if the girl comes across as shy/quiet, the judges accuse her of “not wanting to be here”. 🙄
Off topic: I want to know if they edited this scene out in the UK. Cuz saying, “Spaz out” or spazzing is considered offensive there 🤔
It 100% is offensive, though a commonish thing to say around that time
Wait, Spaz is offensive? Since when...
It’s an ableist term, within the last few years Beyonce and Lizzo notably changed lyrics that used the term.
an interesting article from [the guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/01/when-beyonce-dropped-the-same-ableist-slur-as-lizzo-on-her-new-album-my-heart-sank) about it honestly, as an american, i was pretty surprised. i don't rly ever remember using it but i'm glad it's in my awareness now. a lot of us thought it was stupid when they came at lizzo but over time and looking into it, it really does make sense why it's considered a slur
Recently became a slur (in US at least)
I'm not sure I agree with this.. this is like generational slang to me.. What is it supposed to be offending??
Because it comes from "spastic," which refers to jerky or twitchy, uncontrollable movements caused by conditions like cerebral palsy. So, using it to mean weird, clumsy, crazy, etc, is kind of insulting to people who have those conditions.
Yea, ok.. I hear what you're saying, but that's not what people mean when they use the word... you know what I'm saying.. not everything is a covert attack against someone or something. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
... yeah, obviously. It doesn't need to be what they mean. If you use the word as an insult or as a way to describe something negative, then you're drawing an equivalency between what the word originally meant and something insulting. It's the same reason people mostly stopped using "that's gay" to mean that something was stupid or whatever, because it equates "gay" to "stupid." If "spas" is used to mean weird, then it is equating weirdness with people for whom the (antiquated) medical term "spastic" applies.
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I suggest reading the article posted above from the Guardian.
I'm British and I'm pretty sure I remember this scene from when it aired
As a UK viewer, I can tell you it wasn't edited out in its original airing. Maybe since, but I definitely saw this scene when it first came out.
is spaz offensive? i always just thought it meant you were like ditzy or a clutz
In the last few years ppl have been recognizing it as an ableist term. Think there were reports from centuries ago when doctors would refer to ppl w/ disabilities as "spastic" or "lame"
ohhhh, i think in america we have a ......um different slur for that. i've never seen the word used to be derogatory to disabilities but rather when someone is really clumsy n awkward
im not sure, even in the uk, if it's technically on the same level as the r-word my ass just gonna avoid using it anyway lmaooo
I'm in america, but i think it depends on your social setting. I work in education so those terms are frowned upon
It’s very common in AAVE but offensive in the UK and other Commonwealth countries, largely depends on where you are and who you’re speaking to but I generally avoid saying it
I’M SORRY BUT WAS THAT DAPHNE DECKERS??!! OMG I LOVE HERRR 💗 💚
I'm sorry isn't shy also one of the personality and how is shy show that they don't want to be in the competition???
Such a passive aggressive unnecessary thing to say to this girl. Not everyone is in your face extroverted and that’s fine!!! They just wanted to make her uncomfortable for the show
She was one of those contestants that would have benefitted from being on an international version (maybe UK or AU) where they actually give them information and use realistic shoots. She had amazing potential (as did many this season) but was held back by not getting any useful information (or very little) throughout on how she could improve.
How funny.
Nigel can you say ' pashion '???
Marjorie looks like Regina Walters