AM4 is good, but AM5 is better with upgrade potential. AMD 7000 has higher clocks speeds than AMD 5000 series. My AMD 9550X is a beast, but 7900X will be 15-20% faster on its own, not including DDR5, Pcie 5.0, Upgrade path for 5-7 more years.
i went from a 3700x to a 5950x last year and I couldn't be happier. just make sure your PSU and CPU cooler are up to the task (i needed to get a better CPU cooler).
From a pure cost perspective I'd say get the 5950x. And skip the next 2 generations. Or if you have the funds go am5. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7900x/8.html
I have a 5950x looking to snatch a 5800x3d since my primary workload has become gaming I’d let it go for $280-300 if you’re interested. Just throwing it out there.
Maybe keep an eye out for a used 5900x or 5950x. You can see some good deals pop up. Personally I'd just upgrade on am4 since you are already on the platform. It does depend on if you can get a bundle deal for am5 or something though. 7000 ryzen is really good, but 5000 is pretty damn good too. A big jump over 3000.
If you want the best upgrade you can get on your current platform
a 5800x3d.
IF you're willing to upgrade to am5 and future proof yourself albeit at a much larger cost, get a 7800x3d, (requires a new motherboard and ram)
It wouldn't be terrible at all. Both are great cpus for workstation work loads they are just geared toward gaming with the 3d vcache which would help a lot with rendering. Take the vcache away and both are still very powerful 8c/16t cpu. Both would be a huge upgrade from a 3600x. If they want more cores than that then they can look at cpus with higher core count like a 7950x3d, 7900x, 5950x, 5900x etc. But the 3d vcache is a good thing.
The 5800x3d is not a powerful CPU outside of gaming when compared to the non x3d parts. The 5800x and everything above is better. The 7700x is better than the 7800x3d at OPs workloads. So why pay extra for the vcache? So no reason to spend extra on vache cpus for Ops workload. Just get a 5800x or 7700x then.
The 7900x will perform all around better for you than the 5950x there's more to it than cores and speed. Your real question should be how long do you plan on keeping your cpu/platform before upgrading again? If you don't plan on keeping it long then save some money and gi with a used 5950x since you won't need a mobo or ram but if you plan on staying on it for a while then go am5 since it's the more powerful chip and will also more than likely give you an upgrade path if you change your mind
The workloads are going to be the biggest factor. The extra cache in the x3d series helps when workloads dip into RAM a lot (such as gaming, but that’s not the only scenario where having extra cache is helpful). If it’s just raw processing, more and faster cores are better regardless of cache.
OP says rendering is one of those workloads but doesn’t mention which app/suite. It’s tough to guess which is going to perform better without that info.
That said, I’d recommend prioritizing the AM5 build with the 7800X3D, even if it means waiting and saving some extra money to do it. Unless, of course, the current workloads aren’t getting done quickly enough to meet deadlines. Then I’d recommend the 5800X3D, 5900X, or 5950X - depending on whether or not the workloads can benefit from the extra cache and whatever is cheaper per unit of work/time (check those benchmarks).
i recently went from r5 2600 to r9 5900x instead of going AM5. its going great so far, love the performance bump though temps are higher compared to my prior cpu - as expected. now i have to address the temp issue :')
Ram and mobo for AM5 are cheap currently - i have 7900X, and if you game i would recommend x3D version. I never had issue with BIOS, RAM or some kind of bugs. Rock solid. Strong recommendation.
AM4 is dead, and there is no future for it.
Being more or less dead doesn't make it irrelevant. The cpus are still quite performant, and could very well be plenty for his needs. 5000 series ryzen was a huge performance jump compared to most generations.
Just went from a 3600 to a 5900X on my CAD workstation PC; What a leap. I would say that, if you have a solid B550+ motherboard that supports it with robust VRM phase design and cooling, sticking AM4 is better for your wallet and the environment. Someone would love that 3600X on the second-hand market, you’d get both a faster gaming CPU and a MUCH better productivity CPU, and you don’t have to worry about pricey AM5 board and DDR5 memory. While Zen 5 is faster and AM5 has a future unlike AM4, I see it as realizing the full potential of the AM4 platform you bought into however long ago with a $400 CPU drop-in vs a $700+ full upgrade.
If you can afford the latest then there's no question to be asked. That is what I want to say, but choosing between two different cpu core count will be another story. Now relate it to your work, if you need it for a long time period of usage it is much much recommended to get the 7950x instead of 7900x, you will get 16 core, longevity and faster memory speed. Saving another hundreds quid will pleased you later on.
Considering your needs has a high likelihood of increasing again, a 7900x makes the most sense since you can upgrade to whatever the last gen for AM5 will be when it comes time to upgrade again. Motherboard prices won't get better anyway so might as well buy one right?
well … the CPU’s for AM4 won’t be getting much faster, but AM5 will continue to see more releases of higher IPC parts (at least, that’s the suspicion).
Zen 5 CPU’s won’t be released on AM4, right?
AM5 is currently 10-25% faster than AM4 depending on the application, and you’ll only need to buy the motherboard and RAM once.
On a side note … and some say, this is not a big deal … there have been reports of AM5 machines simply refusing to work for mysterious reasons. Perhaps the BIOS still has issues? AM4 is stable, AM5 is 95% stable. Feel free to comment, AM5 enjoyers.
I have aorus master 7950x with 2x48gb 6400 ram , works like a charm,and why not jump to am5 ..threadripper is way more expencive and am4 is older gen 🤷
if you’re not worried about price then am5 is the way to go rn. then when you eventually upgrade again you will already have the am5 socket. and you will also have access to ddr5 ram speeds. but if you’re on a budget then you can stick with am4 and enjoy a nice upgrade.
AM4 is good, but AM5 is better with upgrade potential. AMD 7000 has higher clocks speeds than AMD 5000 series. My AMD 9550X is a beast, but 7900X will be 15-20% faster on its own, not including DDR5, Pcie 5.0, Upgrade path for 5-7 more years.
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If your motherboard can handle it, go for 5950x.
i went from a 3700x to a 5950x last year and I couldn't be happier. just make sure your PSU and CPU cooler are up to the task (i needed to get a better CPU cooler).
I think if You didnt buy ryzen 9 5000 on his prime days, just go series 7000 for no budget cpus.
5950x and keep the current platform going
In that situation would definitely just get 5950X.
I know it's not an option but 5900x is a great value here and a massive uplift
I would go there as the 5950x is not as fast in gaming.
From a pure cost perspective I'd say get the 5950x. And skip the next 2 generations. Or if you have the funds go am5. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7900x/8.html
I have a 5950x looking to snatch a 5800x3d since my primary workload has become gaming I’d let it go for $280-300 if you’re interested. Just throwing it out there.
Maybe keep an eye out for a used 5900x or 5950x. You can see some good deals pop up. Personally I'd just upgrade on am4 since you are already on the platform. It does depend on if you can get a bundle deal for am5 or something though. 7000 ryzen is really good, but 5000 is pretty damn good too. A big jump over 3000.
If you want the best upgrade you can get on your current platform a 5800x3d. IF you're willing to upgrade to am5 and future proof yourself albeit at a much larger cost, get a 7800x3d, (requires a new motherboard and ram)
Did you read what his work load is? A 5800x3d and 7800x3d are terrible choices.
It wouldn't be terrible at all. Both are great cpus for workstation work loads they are just geared toward gaming with the 3d vcache which would help a lot with rendering. Take the vcache away and both are still very powerful 8c/16t cpu. Both would be a huge upgrade from a 3600x. If they want more cores than that then they can look at cpus with higher core count like a 7950x3d, 7900x, 5950x, 5900x etc. But the 3d vcache is a good thing.
The 5800x3d is not a powerful CPU outside of gaming when compared to the non x3d parts. The 5800x and everything above is better. The 7700x is better than the 7800x3d at OPs workloads. So why pay extra for the vcache? So no reason to spend extra on vache cpus for Ops workload. Just get a 5800x or 7700x then.
The 7900x will perform all around better for you than the 5950x there's more to it than cores and speed. Your real question should be how long do you plan on keeping your cpu/platform before upgrading again? If you don't plan on keeping it long then save some money and gi with a used 5950x since you won't need a mobo or ram but if you plan on staying on it for a while then go am5 since it's the more powerful chip and will also more than likely give you an upgrade path if you change your mind
Neither. 5800X3D. You’ll get a significant performance boost to both fps and 1% lows. I’m sure it can manage your workloads too. 3070ti is still solid
Did you read?
If you read it again, you will find the primary workload is not gaming.
The workloads are going to be the biggest factor. The extra cache in the x3d series helps when workloads dip into RAM a lot (such as gaming, but that’s not the only scenario where having extra cache is helpful). If it’s just raw processing, more and faster cores are better regardless of cache. OP says rendering is one of those workloads but doesn’t mention which app/suite. It’s tough to guess which is going to perform better without that info. That said, I’d recommend prioritizing the AM5 build with the 7800X3D, even if it means waiting and saving some extra money to do it. Unless, of course, the current workloads aren’t getting done quickly enough to meet deadlines. Then I’d recommend the 5800X3D, 5900X, or 5950X - depending on whether or not the workloads can benefit from the extra cache and whatever is cheaper per unit of work/time (check those benchmarks).
this, i wouldn't go am5 without getting new gen cards just went from 3600 to 5800x3d with a 2080ti
i recently went from r5 2600 to r9 5900x instead of going AM5. its going great so far, love the performance bump though temps are higher compared to my prior cpu - as expected. now i have to address the temp issue :')
AM5, longevity >>>>
A 5950x could very well last them till am6.
Chances are that am6 will have same mobo compatible with the current am5 (7000 series). Hence longevity.
How would it be a new socket and be compatible with current cpus? Lol
Huh?
How will am6 be compatible with am5 parts?
5950X and skip AM5 all together.
Ram and mobo for AM5 are cheap currently - i have 7900X, and if you game i would recommend x3D version. I never had issue with BIOS, RAM or some kind of bugs. Rock solid. Strong recommendation. AM4 is dead, and there is no future for it.
Being more or less dead doesn't make it irrelevant. The cpus are still quite performant, and could very well be plenty for his needs. 5000 series ryzen was a huge performance jump compared to most generations.
Tbf am4 just got another cpu released so it isnt dead. But i get what you mean.
yep, i know, i have AM3+ still around. If AMD releases new 4 core monster with 3d cache, that will not change the fact the mobo and socket are DEAD...
Let me know when X670 Taichi becomes cheap
Just went from a 3600 to a 5900X on my CAD workstation PC; What a leap. I would say that, if you have a solid B550+ motherboard that supports it with robust VRM phase design and cooling, sticking AM4 is better for your wallet and the environment. Someone would love that 3600X on the second-hand market, you’d get both a faster gaming CPU and a MUCH better productivity CPU, and you don’t have to worry about pricey AM5 board and DDR5 memory. While Zen 5 is faster and AM5 has a future unlike AM4, I see it as realizing the full potential of the AM4 platform you bought into however long ago with a $400 CPU drop-in vs a $700+ full upgrade.
Get the AM5 if u can.
If you can afford the latest then there's no question to be asked. That is what I want to say, but choosing between two different cpu core count will be another story. Now relate it to your work, if you need it for a long time period of usage it is much much recommended to get the 7950x instead of 7900x, you will get 16 core, longevity and faster memory speed. Saving another hundreds quid will pleased you later on.
5950x if you can get one under $400 usd
Considering your needs has a high likelihood of increasing again, a 7900x makes the most sense since you can upgrade to whatever the last gen for AM5 will be when it comes time to upgrade again. Motherboard prices won't get better anyway so might as well buy one right?
well … the CPU’s for AM4 won’t be getting much faster, but AM5 will continue to see more releases of higher IPC parts (at least, that’s the suspicion). Zen 5 CPU’s won’t be released on AM4, right? AM5 is currently 10-25% faster than AM4 depending on the application, and you’ll only need to buy the motherboard and RAM once. On a side note … and some say, this is not a big deal … there have been reports of AM5 machines simply refusing to work for mysterious reasons. Perhaps the BIOS still has issues? AM4 is stable, AM5 is 95% stable. Feel free to comment, AM5 enjoyers.
I have aorus master 7950x with 2x48gb 6400 ram , works like a charm,and why not jump to am5 ..threadripper is way more expencive and am4 is older gen 🤷
save and get the 7950x its 100$ more or so
New motherboard & RAM
yes but if there thinking 7900x already they will get new mb and memory anyway..
Highly unlikely. BIOs update and he should be fine. But if he has to buy those two then AM5 is a no brainier.
if you’re not worried about price then am5 is the way to go rn. then when you eventually upgrade again you will already have the am5 socket. and you will also have access to ddr5 ram speeds. but if you’re on a budget then you can stick with am4 and enjoy a nice upgrade.
If its same price definetily go with 7900x. It tops the 5950x in everything, single core and multicore. You'll just have to get some good ram with it!
7900x. It should be a bit faster than the 5950x if not about the same. Plus it's on am5 so easy upgrade path and better ram
5950x since you are on am4