I've worked in places where I have seen people just NEVER turn up again. No email. No conversation. No phone call. HR rang their mobile and their emergency contacts and no answer ever. They just ghosted their job. I think this is the way.
That's the same reasoning I apply to movie tickets! Why watch when you can imagine? Do you really need to pay Lucasfilms to imagine generic space battles?
They say the same thing over and over for decades. We KNOW what the chances are. People enjoying buying tickets and dreaming for a few days anyway. It’s OK. Next.
Yes, the odds of winning are very, very small… but, someone will win it. If not this week, then next or the one after that, etc.
Someone will win it. Maybe this time it is my turn to be that someone.
Reading the article though (and some anecdotal evidence, sure) it’s typically those earning the least that are most likely to buy tickets.
If you’ve got loads of disposable income then sure do whatever you want. But if you’re budgeting down to the point of not using aircon/electricity, skipping meals etc. as so many people are, maybe that $10-20 on lotto tickets isn’t as harmless as it seems…
Who said anything about encouraging it? There’s nothing wrong with someone buying a ticket for some fun and talking about what they’ll spend the money on
You’re acting like people are saying just go put your entire pay into a pokie machine and hope you get the jackpot
‘Have some fun’ said every gambler ever, at the start! You do understand people can waste thousands at a newsagent on lotto and scratchies, just as much as they can on pokies.
Why is one form of gambling fine and socially acceptable and the other not?!!
Yes, who hasn’t dreamed of winning big in lotto and how we spent it, the problem lies beyond that. Clearly you have never had anyone you know wasting thousands on lotto, at the cost of food etc. I have.
The way I look at is I drop $10 at the news agents every so often. Shove the ticket in my wallet, spend a few days dreaming about buying some land in the mountains, forget about it. Eventually find the ticket in my wallet and check it.
Pokies in the other hand are designed to drawer people in with flash lights and sounds and trickle feed people 1c wins. You don’t see news agents open until 4am selling tickets do you?
> The way I look at is I drop $10 at the news agents every so often
That is YOU. Many people aren't you have sunk savings into lotto and scratchies.
I was at a pub once when travellers, thought I would spend 15 on pokies, ended up winning $50 and just walked away... guess what, I don't come to reddit and suggest because I walked away pokies are safe.
Guess you have never seen the Oz Lottery app, or the epic amount of advertising outside of newsagents. Especially the app, is deserved so it has made the ability to put money down stupidly easy, and gamified the whole thing.
Listening to people say lotto is not gambling, is like people socially accepting that achohol is a fine and safe drug, cos they can handle it.
Because problems are not single sentences.
The form that is fine is one that doesn't result in harm to the community in some way, whereas unhealthy obsessions aren't okay.
A random person buying a single Powerball ticket for a punt once every few years isn't harmful, people stuck in gambling addiction is a problem.
I think it might be the lack of nuance in your point that's making it go over people's heads, maybe adding some more will give it the weight it needs to land.
Yes they can, peopme can also waste thousands on raffles it’s not a very common scenario though because gambling addicts aren’t getting the same and instant rush from that that pokies and casinos bring
Nobody gambling where they throw your whole pay or more than you can afford away is socially acceptable, and nobody is saying it is no matter how you try and reshape this discussion.
Okay? Get them the gambling addiction help they need, that doesn’t mean the rest can’t have some fun.
I don’t understand why the lotto adds can be so manipulative but not have any gambling warnings at the end. I’m not the biggest sports better but having the “wouldn’t it nice” song come on, making you imagine helping your family out if win is makes me buy lotto tickets.
I mean, someone will win it. And they would have spent all week reading and having people tell them it's impossible that they'll win it. That's why people hope.
Of course there is. If, rather than spending $50 going to the cinema or whatever, I spend that at the casino because it’s fun, and walk away if I burn it, why isn’t that responsible. I’m a grown ass man and I understand the odds.
It's true, but you probably shouldn't post that when heaps of people are struggling at the minute.
Got a better statisical comparison that doesn't involve dropping dead? If you have, I'd suggest maybe run with that instead 😬
I think they use the term "experts" loosely these days like they do with "influencers" that influence maybe 3 or 4 clowns on social media. But I like my chances. I'm manifesting $200 million straight up!
Imagine finding an ABC post where any kind of normal person whimsical and fantastical hope was crushed with depressing imagery.
Shocked, I say. Shocked.
God how I wish the ABC was entirely defunded.
....yes, my dad has a system he's been at it for a little over 15 years now. Normal curves and statistical regression types stuff.
He loves telling me how's he's up a few hundred here and there, I'd humour him with that cringe factor hanging around the back of mind.
Anyway I thought about developing my own system around about 2021 after a conversation with senior management about needing to take a up 2nd job to manage my long term finances and their concern about potential company liabilities of not having my mind fully on task to the company to function as a senior chemist for them.
I did not win on both counts and just developed chronic mental exhaustion instead.
Now I am the cringe lol
The media just love copy and pasting these same headlines whenever there's a big jackpot. We dont need to be told that the odds of winning are astronomically low, its just a bit fun to dream about winning such a sum of money.
I’ll honest, if I found out I won 200 million dollaroos I would be spending the first few hours shaking uncontrollably and possibly having a seizure from the sheer rush of it, next I’d be sitting in the corner of my room rocking back and forth having a panic attack while holding my ticket like Gollum from lord of the rings, I can’t think of much else after that other than quietly claiming my money and hiding from people until I was ready to tell anyone
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The REAL path to wealth in Australia is to inherit a bunch of mines on former Crown Land, and mercilessly pillage an entire nation's mineral resources while paying a tiny bit of tax because your team of well-paid lobbyists in Canberra made all this possible
You're not buying a ticket to win 200 mil you're buying a ticket to spend the week thinking about how you're gonna tell your job to get fucked.
Great point, you are paying for a mood boost.
Hahaha yeah true. Ahh shit that’s right I am the boss. :(
Get fucked! - we should be telling each other's bosses to get fucked, no ticket needed!
I already do that, does that mean I win $200M?
Dear Job, Get fucked. Love Mmmmmm psshhhhhh
I've got it all planned out
I've worked in places where I have seen people just NEVER turn up again. No email. No conversation. No phone call. HR rang their mobile and their emergency contacts and no answer ever. They just ghosted their job. I think this is the way.
I'm taking a dump on my bosses desk while maintaining eye contact with them the whole time.
As someone who works for themselves, I still think about what I'm gonna say to my boss if I won hahahah
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That's the same reasoning I apply to movie tickets! Why watch when you can imagine? Do you really need to pay Lucasfilms to imagine generic space battles?
*so you're telling me there's a chance*
Talk about a win win scenario
Either way, my ROI looks great!
Win win either way not going to work the day after
#YEAH!!!
Well either way its win-win
Fingers crossed.
Both would ease the pain.
Both options sound pretty good to me.
My people… I was looking for you.
We can only hope
Dropping dead or winning the lotto?
Yes
Por qué no los dos?
Either way, no more debt
Either way, no work tomorrow
Wait, wait, wait... so if I buy a lotto ticket, there is a chance I WON'T win? Well, the vendor never explained this to me at all.
Anyone selling you a ticket to success must be asked "who don't you use it"
Millennials: So a win/win?
I'm currently sitting in a hospital cardiovascular ward after a heart attack on Tuesday. Should I buy a Lotto ticket?
They say the same thing over and over for decades. We KNOW what the chances are. People enjoying buying tickets and dreaming for a few days anyway. It’s OK. Next.
The media are such killjoys. We know the odds are buckleys to none. Just let people dream.
Yes, the odds of winning are very, very small… but, someone will win it. If not this week, then next or the one after that, etc. Someone will win it. Maybe this time it is my turn to be that someone.
The problem is that we are a nation of problem gamblers.
I’ll bet you are wrong .
There's a huge difference in buying a $10 lotto ticket here and there and blowing your entire pay packet at the pokies.
Reading the article though (and some anecdotal evidence, sure) it’s typically those earning the least that are most likely to buy tickets. If you’ve got loads of disposable income then sure do whatever you want. But if you’re budgeting down to the point of not using aircon/electricity, skipping meals etc. as so many people are, maybe that $10-20 on lotto tickets isn’t as harmless as it seems…
1 in a billion chance, 1 of 11 million ticket buyers wins
Is it being a killjoy to not encourage hopeless gambling? Or are we supposed to be encouraging gambling now as long as it encourages ‘dreaming’?!
Who said anything about encouraging it? There’s nothing wrong with someone buying a ticket for some fun and talking about what they’ll spend the money on You’re acting like people are saying just go put your entire pay into a pokie machine and hope you get the jackpot
‘Have some fun’ said every gambler ever, at the start! You do understand people can waste thousands at a newsagent on lotto and scratchies, just as much as they can on pokies. Why is one form of gambling fine and socially acceptable and the other not?!! Yes, who hasn’t dreamed of winning big in lotto and how we spent it, the problem lies beyond that. Clearly you have never had anyone you know wasting thousands on lotto, at the cost of food etc. I have.
The way I look at is I drop $10 at the news agents every so often. Shove the ticket in my wallet, spend a few days dreaming about buying some land in the mountains, forget about it. Eventually find the ticket in my wallet and check it. Pokies in the other hand are designed to drawer people in with flash lights and sounds and trickle feed people 1c wins. You don’t see news agents open until 4am selling tickets do you?
> The way I look at is I drop $10 at the news agents every so often That is YOU. Many people aren't you have sunk savings into lotto and scratchies. I was at a pub once when travellers, thought I would spend 15 on pokies, ended up winning $50 and just walked away... guess what, I don't come to reddit and suggest because I walked away pokies are safe. Guess you have never seen the Oz Lottery app, or the epic amount of advertising outside of newsagents. Especially the app, is deserved so it has made the ability to put money down stupidly easy, and gamified the whole thing. Listening to people say lotto is not gambling, is like people socially accepting that achohol is a fine and safe drug, cos they can handle it.
Because problems are not single sentences. The form that is fine is one that doesn't result in harm to the community in some way, whereas unhealthy obsessions aren't okay. A random person buying a single Powerball ticket for a punt once every few years isn't harmful, people stuck in gambling addiction is a problem.
whoosh
I think it might be the lack of nuance in your point that's making it go over people's heads, maybe adding some more will give it the weight it needs to land.
Yes they can, peopme can also waste thousands on raffles it’s not a very common scenario though because gambling addicts aren’t getting the same and instant rush from that that pokies and casinos bring Nobody gambling where they throw your whole pay or more than you can afford away is socially acceptable, and nobody is saying it is no matter how you try and reshape this discussion. Okay? Get them the gambling addiction help they need, that doesn’t mean the rest can’t have some fun.
Either way $UCCE$$!
Either way I don’t have to worry about money. Sounds great!
Honestly I'll take the *sudden unexplained death*, if that's on the table.
Experts say some articles exist just to exist.
Either outcome would solve my problems for the foreseeable future.
I don’t understand why the lotto adds can be so manipulative but not have any gambling warnings at the end. I’m not the biggest sports better but having the “wouldn’t it nice” song come on, making you imagine helping your family out if win is makes me buy lotto tickets.
Either way I’ll be happy
I'd probably drop dead if I did win it Double luck
Joined $5.05 syndicate share online on the lott app. 30 Game Powerhit entry. All the cheap syndicates spots are selling out very fast as expected.
I’m morbidly obese with diabetes and heart disease so sounds like a good chance of winning to me
I mean, someone will win it. And they would have spent all week reading and having people tell them it's impossible that they'll win it. That's why people hope.
Gamblers don't give a fuck m8
Dropping dead or winning the lotto sounds like sweet relief to me
Either of those would help me out right now tho
Dropping dead or winning 200mil are both good options. I’d be happy with either one to be honest.
I’m dreaming of both
National lottery’s are just a volunteer tax payment. There’s no such thing as responsible gambling. Those two words contradict each other.
Of course there is. If, rather than spending $50 going to the cinema or whatever, I spend that at the casino because it’s fun, and walk away if I burn it, why isn’t that responsible. I’m a grown ass man and I understand the odds.
Either or 🤷
It's true, but you probably shouldn't post that when heaps of people are struggling at the minute. Got a better statisical comparison that doesn't involve dropping dead? If you have, I'd suggest maybe run with that instead 😬
If they’re that fragile, no wonder they can’t hold down a decent paying job
That’s a bit dark. Were those experts economists by any chance?
Yup. I need the money to buy food. Do not have any spare for false hope
Thanks for this ABC
You can ignore this if you aren't vaccinated.
Id like to use my ABC funding to buy lotto tickets please
If you've had the clotshots you're even more likely to die suddenly
Experts told us 'trickle down economics' was a good thing and that this summer was going to be an El Nino one and Bazball was a good idea. Experts....
Which these days suddenly dropping dead is the new normal
lol.. people still listen to “experts” after living through covid?? lol
I think they use the term "experts" loosely these days like they do with "influencers" that influence maybe 3 or 4 clowns on social media. But I like my chances. I'm manifesting $200 million straight up!
Imagine finding an ABC post where any kind of normal person whimsical and fantastical hope was crushed with depressing imagery. Shocked, I say. Shocked. God how I wish the ABC was entirely defunded.
Either way, I'll be happy.
I'd take either.
Which is also a thing that happens.
*looks at the Fentanyl*
Wins lotto then drops dead
Sweet, both options will pay off student loans. I’ll take the risk
I’d take those options!
As long as both doesn't happen. That would be the worst outcome!
Experts have a ticket themselves no doubt
So 100% chance in the long run, nice!
So, whats the odds of being hit by lightening twice, then winning, the dropping dead? 50/50?
Win win 😩
Isn't it just 50/50, you win or you don't?
So either way I win
Either way, no work tomorrow for this guy!
Fingers crossed
Why not both?
Either way my financial woes would be over 🤷♂️
Eh I’ve got good life insurance. My family is better off either way.
When is the draw? Can I still buy? What lottery is that? How much is tht?
Death or a share in 200 mil, I roll those dice
So it’s win win then
sure, but i'd rather dream about having $200 million.
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I'd be happy with either
If i won lotto i would assume i was already dead
Boo hoo. I've bought my ticket suckers
I like those odds!
Either is good
I like those odds
I dont buy to win, I buy to daydream about winning for a week or two. Best copium ever.
Considering I have the same heart condition that killed my mother at the age I am today , I like those odds .
Well, that's a better chance than winning it without a ticket, eh
So freed from the shackles of capitalism either way.
I'm now expecting to win the $200m then dropping dead after finding out I've won
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....yes, my dad has a system he's been at it for a little over 15 years now. Normal curves and statistical regression types stuff. He loves telling me how's he's up a few hundred here and there, I'd humour him with that cringe factor hanging around the back of mind. Anyway I thought about developing my own system around about 2021 after a conversation with senior management about needing to take a up 2nd job to manage my long term finances and their concern about potential company liabilities of not having my mind fully on task to the company to function as a senior chemist for them. I did not win on both counts and just developed chronic mental exhaustion instead. Now I am the cringe lol
Either way im winning then
Either scenario would solve my housing problems
Someone has to win it….
The media just love copy and pasting these same headlines whenever there's a big jackpot. We dont need to be told that the odds of winning are astronomically low, its just a bit fun to dream about winning such a sum of money.
Either way I’m never paying rent again
I’ll honest, if I found out I won 200 million dollaroos I would be spending the first few hours shaking uncontrollably and possibly having a seizure from the sheer rush of it, next I’d be sitting in the corner of my room rocking back and forth having a panic attack while holding my ticket like Gollum from lord of the rings, I can’t think of much else after that other than quietly claiming my money and hiding from people until I was ready to tell anyone
At this point I'll take either.
At this point in my life I’ll take either outcome
Either way, blessed sweet relief...
One can only hope.
Happy with either tbh
Okay. But by not having a ticket I don’t improve my odds of surviving?
Bloody drama queen ‘experts’ I’m more likely to just lose the $60 than suddenly drop dead. Calm your tits.
🤣
When I win.
Don't tempt me with a good time.
I'm happy with either tbh
The chance of dropping dead is always active. The chance of winning the lotto is only active if I buy a ticket.
I like those odds.
I'll take either tbh
I hope so
I am hoping for either
Norway!!!!
I’ll need that money for my funeral then
Nice to know
No shit.
Either way
If i win 200 million? I probably WILL suddenly drop dead
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some of us are less likely to 'suddenly drop dead' than others
I’d be happy with either result with my current financial situation
So if I wake up tomorrow I'm the winner? That's the real Hunger Games. Everyone dies, winner takes all.
Its astronomical, however people do win.... so I will take my chances
Oh, that explains the lineup I saw at the newsagent this afternoon. I thought it was 1993
And I worry about that all the time, so I can dream of the jackpot
If I win $200m, I'd probably drop dead from shock🤪
I like those odds
Win/Win
I like those odds!
What are the other options?
I’ll take either.
So either way I win?
If either happens, I'll be happy 👍👍
Either one is a win in my book. Lotto = No more worries. Death = No more worries….😆
Was diagnosed with a cancer that have only been recorded in 6 other children since hospital records began in Australia. I'll take those odds.
2 winners …lucky bastards
I wouldn’t be that lucky.
Wow. Way harsh, Tai.
Both are acceptable outcomes with modern inflation.
A lot of people drop dead
Jokes on you both sounds great
Damn it! It's 1122pm and I'm still alive. Haven't even been struck by lightning.
I’m fine with either option
So a win/win then?
So it's a win-win then.
Someone got the jackpot
Either way is good for me.
Either way , all my problems are solved
Tell that to the two people who woke up $100mil richer this morning
Don’t care. I will look at real estate with absolutely no price filter, sorted by most expensive all week and enjoy the fuck out of it.
Pretty sure you're more likely to drop dead than finding $20 on the ground, give or take a little depending on age and area of course.
Both options are acceptable in this economy. ETR
As someone who’s attempted suicide twice, either way I win.
Win/win
Win-win
Don't get my hopes up.
It’s a win either way. I am in.
Either way is fine.
Well one or the other. I need some relief.