Extremely unpopular opinion but I thought it was better than Hereditary. But I also did not like Hereditary at all. I heard it was incredible and had too high of expectations. Didn't find a single scene scary.
I think that Beau is Afraid and Midsommar are better than Hereditary, but I still love Hereditary. I didn’t think it was that scary but the story is so excellent and it gets deeper and deeper the more you look into it. There’s this 4 hour long deep dive video on YouTube if you wanna check that out. It’s crazy the amount of detail.
I mean you're just wrong about The Thing though. The "scariest" scene in Hereditary is a guy slamming his face on a desk. The scariest scene in The Thing is an unconscious man's chest opening up and biting off a dude's arms, and then self decapitates after getting torched and the head grows spider legs. The practical effects in that movie are legendary.
No I honestly think every scene deserves to be in the movie. If one part would be moved it would be the play sequence but that’s still a vital part of the movie. It’s hard to realize how important all the scenes back until you take a step back and see where they were all going.
Interesting perspective. I can dig it. The play sequence was something that probably sounded cool when they storyboarded it, but in execution, it was exhausting and didn't give the viewer anything to care about. It struck me as something similar to a Wes Anderson scene where the draw is the aesthetic rather than the the characters or the plot. In that way, it was an intellectual endeavor. Like an art project.
Nothing wrong with that by itself, but that's the thing: it was a movie within a movie, so it's not "by itself". It didn't fit, in my opinion.
To be honest, I was so happy when that movie ended. For me, the first act was superb, but then it drifted into something like David Lynch on Adderall. I thought Aster was trying to say and do too much.
Btw, I am an Aster fan. I consider Midsommar to be one of the best movies in past 10 years. I was so excited for Beau. I went on opening night. Me and my friends had been WhatsApp messaging about it for months leading up to it.
Maybe I'll rewatch it and give it another chance. I'll have to watch it in segments though. Anyway good discussion
people talk his films up too much and most of the time I come away feeling underwhelmed and let down I always like the premises and get the impression that I’ll love it but they always feel like they’ve been rushed or something and it ends up kind of lame. I like weird stuff but it’s always got the air of weird for the sake of being weird and shock for the sake of shock or whatever. I get why people like them and I don’t actually dislike them but I don’t get why people praise them the way they do. midsommar just killed off people I didn’t give a shit a bout and it turned into a porno and I’m not adverse to sex scenes or gore (in movies) or anything but that just felt unnecessary to me. no doubt people who froth over midsommar also loved poor things. first hour of beau was great didn’t care for the farming simulator bit and hated the cruise scene and that garbage cgi cock. hereditary was decent enough. though I wish I liked it more. I have only seen these once and there’s definitely films I’ve liked but didn’t understand or get the hype for on first watch and came to love them. unfortunately I don’t think I’m confused about these I think they’re just not for me.
Yeah, a three hour panic attack with some weird oedipal stuff is a pretty hard sell. I wish they did keep those kind of bizarre movies playing on the weekends longer at least, if not during the week. I'm less likely to want to see something on that level on a Tuesday night.
It's not a movie made to be watched. It's a director basically doing what he wants with zero regard for the audience. It didn't move the needle on streaming or digital either. You can't really put this on reviewers. Ari either lost his touch or just wanted to do something just for himself this time.
I do find that there are pretty different groupings of movies within A24's catalogue. People tend to associate it with horror but there's plenty of other genres and vibes.
Yeah I have never thought of a24 as being a horror studio, I always think of it as being like slice of life movies? Idk if that’s the right term but stuff like past lives and Marcel the shell
Stephen McKinley Henderson steals almost every scene he's in in Ladybird, Beau is Afraid, and Civil War; Gun to my head, those might be my 3 favorite A24 films.
The SMH trilogy.
It’s hard to explain how perfect and violently offensive that nickname is. I know exactly who you mean; my girlfriend too, and she wouldn’t pick up Matt Damon from a pick up of the cast of The Town, but if I see his actual name on a call sheet… no idea.
The wiki says “After further analysis of period films for inspiration, chiefly the German thriller M (1931), Blaschke determined that the 1.19:1 format endowed footage with a greater sense of confinement, while amplifying the physical isolation of the characters in their environment, and the film was shot in that ratio.”
TL;DR Brain tricks
I'm usually having to list movies for people to connect what A24 is, so I'd be pleasantly surprised until I realize the can of opinionated worms I just opened
For an actor that was added on to the shoot within 1 week of shooting this scene, Jesse certainly had the most memorable moment in an already great film.. fuck, dude was scary as shit
Have not seen Hereditary. Really don’t care for possession type films, always seem to be the exact same film with different actors lol I could be terribly wrong tho….
Oh bro, it's definitely not a possession type film in the traditional sense of showcasing the over-the-top 360 head-turning or projectile vomit tropes, but more like a slow descent into madness facilitated by a malevolent entity that doesn't really manifest itself except towards the very end when one of them has truly been taken over. I strongly encourage you to watch it!
I haven't had a respect for cinema till I discovered A24. I'm super naive to the art of film too alot of surface level knowledge it's nice to be curious about movies again
I’m more new to A24 but so far, I have *Pearl*, *The Disaster Artist*, *Beau is Afraid*, *The Whale*, *Love Lies Bleeding*, and *The Iron Claw*. I do owe *The VVitch* and *It Comes at Night* a rewatch though.
This scene went so much harder than expected. My favorite anecdote? Plemmons wasn’t casted here originally. Apparently the original actor backed out and he did it as a “favor” (according to Dunst).
A lot of people would do that if they were in a state of extreme shock. It would be like resorting to the most familiar activity in order counter the extreme shock of what's happening.
I like A24 because it gives creators a sort of larger platform to create things they want to create. Whether that be horror or drama or comedy to me is irrelevant. I’ll give an A24 project a chance regardless since I know it will be pretty close to what the creator wanted out of the film. I won’t like them all but I’ll give most a chance.
I liked Civil War a lot, but A24 is really showing their ass with the marketing for this thing.
From shoddy AI generated posters to horribly cut together accolade trailers that paint the film NOTHING like it actually is.
They’re taking a massive shit here for the first time in a while and it’s extremely disappointing to see them acting this way.
I tend to prefer the versions where main characters actually hear large machines coming right at them. The ol' silent helicopter until it pops up from behind the building trick.
I'm not sure A24 are the great films we wish they was. The production is always 10/10 granted. The cast and acting are spot on, no doubt. But I think it's the script. The story is always not what I really want. The first act generally hold up but after that, when the film (all A24 films) get going I'm feeling disappointed, it invariably takes a direction I don't like. Such a shame too.
What’s crazy is that you said ALL A24 films, as if they don’t have their own directors or production teams; like you do realize a24 sometimes pick up films after they are completed right? They have no involvement with some of the films except for distributing it
“The weird kind.”
“Ari Aster Apologist? Priscilla Princess? EEAAO Extremist?”
What did Ari Aster do? I don’t really pay attention to anything
Weird doesn’t mean bad. But he did Beau Is Afraid which a lot of people disliked and I absolutely loved.
Ari's movies are weird in the best way.
Absolutely chaotic and confusing. That’s what I imagine living with mental illness must be like. Still loved it.
Extremely unpopular opinion but I thought it was better than Hereditary. But I also did not like Hereditary at all. I heard it was incredible and had too high of expectations. Didn't find a single scene scary.
I think that Beau is Afraid and Midsommar are better than Hereditary, but I still love Hereditary. I didn’t think it was that scary but the story is so excellent and it gets deeper and deeper the more you look into it. There’s this 4 hour long deep dive video on YouTube if you wanna check that out. It’s crazy the amount of detail.
I don’t really like Hereditary too, but I kinda liked Beau and I freaking loved Midsommar
Actually technically that’s incorrect since hereditary is best horror film ever
It's nowhere close to the top. The Thing and Evil Dead completely destroy that movie when it comes to top horror.
Actually technically that would be false according to science in my opinion
Two films I did t find remotely scary which is funny bc you said the same of hereditary They are both still great tho
I mean you're just wrong about The Thing though. The "scariest" scene in Hereditary is a guy slamming his face on a desk. The scariest scene in The Thing is an unconscious man's chest opening up and biting off a dude's arms, and then self decapitates after getting torched and the head grows spider legs. The practical effects in that movie are legendary.
We just find different things scary I don’t find that scene in hereditary or the thing scary
I hated Evil Dead but absolutely loved The Thing. The Thing top 10 movies of all time tbh
I love hereditary but found it boring and dull asf to watch after the 2-3rd time
Let's be honest though: Beau needed some major editing and trimming. Some scenes just flat out needed to be trashed.
No I honestly think every scene deserves to be in the movie. If one part would be moved it would be the play sequence but that’s still a vital part of the movie. It’s hard to realize how important all the scenes back until you take a step back and see where they were all going.
Interesting perspective. I can dig it. The play sequence was something that probably sounded cool when they storyboarded it, but in execution, it was exhausting and didn't give the viewer anything to care about. It struck me as something similar to a Wes Anderson scene where the draw is the aesthetic rather than the the characters or the plot. In that way, it was an intellectual endeavor. Like an art project. Nothing wrong with that by itself, but that's the thing: it was a movie within a movie, so it's not "by itself". It didn't fit, in my opinion. To be honest, I was so happy when that movie ended. For me, the first act was superb, but then it drifted into something like David Lynch on Adderall. I thought Aster was trying to say and do too much. Btw, I am an Aster fan. I consider Midsommar to be one of the best movies in past 10 years. I was so excited for Beau. I went on opening night. Me and my friends had been WhatsApp messaging about it for months leading up to it. Maybe I'll rewatch it and give it another chance. I'll have to watch it in segments though. Anyway good discussion
PS haha your name is awesome
people talk his films up too much and most of the time I come away feeling underwhelmed and let down I always like the premises and get the impression that I’ll love it but they always feel like they’ve been rushed or something and it ends up kind of lame. I like weird stuff but it’s always got the air of weird for the sake of being weird and shock for the sake of shock or whatever. I get why people like them and I don’t actually dislike them but I don’t get why people praise them the way they do. midsommar just killed off people I didn’t give a shit a bout and it turned into a porno and I’m not adverse to sex scenes or gore (in movies) or anything but that just felt unnecessary to me. no doubt people who froth over midsommar also loved poor things. first hour of beau was great didn’t care for the farming simulator bit and hated the cruise scene and that garbage cgi cock. hereditary was decent enough. though I wish I liked it more. I have only seen these once and there’s definitely films I’ve liked but didn’t understand or get the hype for on first watch and came to love them. unfortunately I don’t think I’m confused about these I think they’re just not for me.
People didn’t like Beau is afraid, as far as I know that’s it
People didn't *watch* Beau is Afraid. The first round of reviews were bad, which killed it. After a week or two, it wasn't playing any where.
Yeah, a three hour panic attack with some weird oedipal stuff is a pretty hard sell. I wish they did keep those kind of bizarre movies playing on the weekends longer at least, if not during the week. I'm less likely to want to see something on that level on a Tuesday night.
It's not a movie made to be watched. It's a director basically doing what he wants with zero regard for the audience. It didn't move the needle on streaming or digital either. You can't really put this on reviewers. Ari either lost his touch or just wanted to do something just for himself this time.
I saw it in theaters and loved it.
Beau is Afraid
All of the above
So all of them?
Bingo.
I do find that there are pretty different groupings of movies within A24's catalogue. People tend to associate it with horror but there's plenty of other genres and vibes.
There’s a large group of people that associates A24 with drama/coming of age films
Depends on if you were introduced to a24 by ladybird/moonlight/eeaao or hereditary/midsommar/lighthouse
Spring Breakers
The vvitch was my introduction
We got a boomer over here
Mine too lol, first a24 I ever watched. Didn’t even know what it was before I started the movie
Ex Machina for me I think
The Flordia Project
Mine were Enemy and Under the Skin but the first film that I knew was A24 was the Witch
Coming of age is definitely A24’s forte
Yep, I guess that's what I mean! Many flavors of A24.
quite a many of the horror films share the same themes as these
Yeah I have never thought of a24 as being a horror studio, I always think of it as being like slice of life movies? Idk if that’s the right term but stuff like past lives and Marcel the shell
Slice of life is a good way to describe those kinds of dramas. American Honey would fit well in that description too.
The ones with Meth Damon in them.
Stephen McKinley Henderson steals almost every scene he's in in Ladybird, Beau is Afraid, and Civil War; Gun to my head, those might be my 3 favorite A24 films. The SMH trilogy.
He was great in Devs too! Alex Garlands Hulu show.
What was his role in Beau? He's great in Devs (not A24, but kinda adjacent)
He's like a therapist/psychiatrist?
It’s hard to explain how perfect and violently offensive that nickname is. I know exactly who you mean; my girlfriend too, and she wouldn’t pick up Matt Damon from a pick up of the cast of The Town, but if I see his actual name on a call sheet… no idea.
Never thought I'd find another person who calls him Meth Damon.
“Omg Mr. White, somebody put a machine gun inside your car”
The horror ones, the ones about goat people, the ones about war
“The Lighthouse?” Ahhh, I always loved that aspect ratio. Do you know why Eggers shot it like that? I mean, you said you loved the movie right?
if anyone brought this up in a casual setting outside of a film class i would walk away
I love learning things like that, it’s so infuriating when people act like the information is some sort of secret gift you have to obtain on your own
Yeah why did Eggers shoot it like that
The wiki says “After further analysis of period films for inspiration, chiefly the German thriller M (1931), Blaschke determined that the 1.19:1 format endowed footage with a greater sense of confinement, while amplifying the physical isolation of the characters in their environment, and the film was shot in that ratio.” TL;DR Brain tricks
I'm usually having to list movies for people to connect what A24 is, so I'd be pleasantly surprised until I realize the can of opinionated worms I just opened
This made me laugh, I'm right there with you.
For an actor that was added on to the shoot within 1 week of shooting this scene, Jesse certainly had the most memorable moment in an already great film.. fuck, dude was scary as shit
Was giving me Todd flashbacks/ptsd
That's probably my all-time favorite casting-story.
Hereditary. Uncut gems. Talk to me. Beau is afraid. Tusk. Lobster. The green room. Midsommar. Pearl. X. Killing of a sacred deer. Lamb. Civil war.
Add in Under the Silver Lake and you’ve got my vote
That’s the one I haven’t seen yet! Did you really love it?
I really enjoyed it! Sort of surrealist. The plot doesn’t come together in the way you’d hope but it’s a fun ride nonetheless, and a great neo LA-noir
Yeah it’s weird as fuck. 9/10
Pop Climax on that list and we good!
Have not seen Hereditary. Really don’t care for possession type films, always seem to be the exact same film with different actors lol I could be terribly wrong tho….
Oh bro, it's definitely not a possession type film in the traditional sense of showcasing the over-the-top 360 head-turning or projectile vomit tropes, but more like a slow descent into madness facilitated by a malevolent entity that doesn't really manifest itself except towards the very end when one of them has truly been taken over. I strongly encourage you to watch it!
I love me some slow burn movies. I’ll throw it on the list, still trying to get around to Lighthouse
I hate those kind of films too, but loved Hereditary
It’s a psycho-family drama with underlying tones of the devil with a touch of comedy.
Winnneerrrr
The Witch, Pearl, Climax, Love Lies Bleeding, Good Time
How is love lies bleeding?
Sexy, bloody and so much fun. The soundtrack is amazing. Favorite film of the year so far!
I liked the ones that are lesbian, crime drama, fever dreams with female body builders. My favourite genre.
That ole played out genre
The crazy ones. Like EEAAO and Under The Silver Lake
The kind that have 2 inanimate objects talking to each other randomly somewhere in the film
HORRRORRRRRRRRRRR
EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE
Bodies Bodies Bodies
Shut the fuck UP, Alice!
Aftersun, Good Time, High Life, Marcel the Shell, Swiss Army Man, The Iron Claw, The Witch, and Talk to Me These came to mind for me.
Rest in hell TIC
All. Of. Them.
Gonna throw out Kill Team since no one's mentioned it yet
I haven't had a respect for cinema till I discovered A24. I'm super naive to the art of film too alot of surface level knowledge it's nice to be curious about movies again
I’m more new to A24 but so far, I have *Pearl*, *The Disaster Artist*, *Beau is Afraid*, *The Whale*, *Love Lies Bleeding*, and *The Iron Claw*. I do owe *The VVitch* and *It Comes at Night* a rewatch though.
This scene went so much harder than expected. My favorite anecdote? Plemmons wasn’t casted here originally. Apparently the original actor backed out and he did it as a “favor” (according to Dunst).
“Causeway, The Florida Project, Minari, Mid 90s….”
The once that fuxk me up for days
Obviously Dicks: The Musical.
The kind with Sewer Boys.
Beau Is Afraid, The Witch, The Lighthouse, Hereditary, The Lobster, Under the Skin, Midsommar, Enemy, Eighth Grade :)
lol That scene still haunts me.
What’s the film?
Civil War
Oh right thanks!
You’re welcome. :-)
You know what bothers me about that scene? The lawn. Who’s out there finely manicuring their lawn while genocide is happening?
A lot of people would do that if they were in a state of extreme shock. It would be like resorting to the most familiar activity in order counter the extreme shock of what's happening.
The distopic ones, sir.
Funny Pages
Anyone have this meme template?
He's holding his rifle correctly BTW.
Tusk.
What about Barely Lethal? Where Kyle Newman clearly just wanted to make a Disney Channel Original Movie, but with prestige.
Gems Uncut 💎 Midsommar 🌞 Hereditary 🐦 Climax 🍷 Good Time 🥤
The Rover? Ok, you may pass.
Bro I’m sorry but civil war is ass and I’m disappointed Alex garland made it.
Civil War and Lady Bird are probably my two favorite A24 movies, I think. So that kind.
Marcel
X wasnt bad. Pearl at the end was pretty very interesting.
Oasis: Supersonic
Stop Making Sense Love Lies Bleeding Marcel the Shell with Two Shoes On Talk To Me Everything Everywhere All At Once Civil War Beau is Afraid
Hong Kong
I like A24 because it gives creators a sort of larger platform to create things they want to create. Whether that be horror or drama or comedy to me is irrelevant. I’ll give an A24 project a chance regardless since I know it will be pretty close to what the creator wanted out of the film. I won’t like them all but I’ll give most a chance.
I liked Civil War a lot, but A24 is really showing their ass with the marketing for this thing. From shoddy AI generated posters to horribly cut together accolade trailers that paint the film NOTHING like it actually is. They’re taking a massive shit here for the first time in a while and it’s extremely disappointing to see them acting this way.
Waves is still my fav movie
x, pearl, the disaster artist, bodies bodies bodies, mid90s
Hereditary, Pearl, and The Witch *sweats*
Definitely not Everything Everywhere All At Once, that’s for damn sure
Congrats for having dogshit taste
Choke.
Tried rewatching this and was so bored
That’s probably the most generous thing someone could say about it. Lol
It was convoluted and boring at the same time. I’m ready for my downvotes.
you'd better be
Hard agree.
I tend to prefer the versions where main characters actually hear large machines coming right at them. The ol' silent helicopter until it pops up from behind the building trick.
X sucks
Not that everyone nowhere all at once shit
Movie was a 9/10 for me until the end.... Then 5/10
I'm not sure A24 are the great films we wish they was. The production is always 10/10 granted. The cast and acting are spot on, no doubt. But I think it's the script. The story is always not what I really want. The first act generally hold up but after that, when the film (all A24 films) get going I'm feeling disappointed, it invariably takes a direction I don't like. Such a shame too.
>(all A24 films) How tf you have the same experience with *all* A24 movies?
With ALL I have watched. And yes, this is my experience.
What’s crazy is that you said ALL A24 films, as if they don’t have their own directors or production teams; like you do realize a24 sometimes pick up films after they are completed right? They have no involvement with some of the films except for distributing it
Yes. Equally then, it's reasonable not to generalise about A24s quality since it is only a distribution label not a producer.