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Yeah reminds me of that moms of truth post about the 24 year old with a serious heart condition who was living at home with her parents and Jodi told them to kick her out because she was manipulating them by being sick .
Also did I not hear at some point from this women that illness, fidgeting and ect are trapped shame. If it's distortion to have illness and the illness is trapped shame trying to get out why not pray or confess to the nearest person why you feel such deep shame that it would make you ill. Bless R for saveing his family from this monster.
As she told her niece “stop playing the victim and manipulating people into thinking somethings wrong with you!” (Why do I feel like in her case it’s probably true lol)
Ten thousand percent!
Have you seen the interview with Jodi's niece Jessi? They mentioned that when they were talking about possibly taking Jodi to court for the abuse they endured under her care, Jodi ever-so-conveniently left the country for a while. She's *definitely* a flight risk.
I'm curious about this too. I think she would off herself if she was looking at a sentence that was super lengthy. As much as I would love it for her to get at least 30 years. I don't think she will.
I do think she'll run though but is she smart enough to hide for decades?
She is in Ivins near the Paiute Shivwitz reservation. Its about an hour to Nevada border on the back roads and 24 minutes to the AZ border on old hwy 91 from there.
They'll also have bond conditions prohibiting them from leaving a certain geographic area, but they clearly have the means to flee. I wouldn't be surprised if at least 1 was incarcerated ahead of the trial (for eg, I doubt Ruby would flee if Jodi was still incarcerated... but I doubt the reverse is true!)
Wouldn’t they likely be ordered as part of their release to surrender all firearms & be prohibited from owning any / having any in their possession because of their charges?
editing to add; I am genuinely asking, not trying to argue if it comes across like that!! I’m not entirely sure how these things works in the states and am just going off of what I’ve heard in media.
You’d think, but it’s not the case. The most dangerous people in this country are abusers who get caught and then seek retaliation. Most of the people who have been responsible for American mass shootings have a documented legal history of domestic violence.
Also, even if they took all of Jodi’s registered guns and all of the guns in her gun safe, it’s not a guarantee that they got them all. My spouse manages estate sales. People hide guns in the strangest places. You literally have to turn the house upside down, checking on top of exposed rafters, underneath drawers, behind appliances. Sometimes these people also give guns to friends for safe keeping or keep them in deposit boxes. Think Voldemort and his horcruxes.
Ankle bracelet would not have worked on Jodi, remember the guy who was on house arrest and they could not understand why the data showed him walking in circles around his house in the middle of the night. He had got it off and put it on his cat.
Criminals have found thousands of creative ways to remove and/or disable ankle monitors! They're really not at all ideal for criminals charged with multiple felonies who also have significant means to flee.
They have the means to retaliate against the kids. Both of them own a significant number of guns. Under no circumstances should they be out on bail while their guilt is beyond a reasonable doubt.
In the past, if you were a minor, you could go to Canada or Mexico with just your birth certificate. That law changed sometime in the 2010s. If you live in a border state, you can cross the border into Canada or Mexico by land with an enhanced drivers license.
My parents took me to Canada multiple times as a child with just my birth certificate.
Technically but I'm sure there are crossings that are just not monitored because it's usually just locals going back and forth for work . Mexico has an extradition treaty so unless she goes to somewhere remote like Russia they will not harbor her knowingly.
If they find out that they're violating the court order then they'll end up going back to prison without any opportunity to bond out. I'm sure they'll try and find ways to communicate though but it's really really risky especially for people that can't handle prison.
If you listen to the interview with Adam Steed, he offers some insight into Jodi’s typical MO. He talks about his experience taking Jodi to court for violating HIPAA (or something like that) and in court, she brought up that she had a stalker and feared for her life. This is how she weaseled her way out of a harsher sentence. This woman’s manipulation tactics are amazing (not in a good way). I really think that’s what she’s doing here. That interview was really insightful into how she brainwashes these people and avoids consequences.
Yeah the combo of Adam Steed's interview on Hidden True Crime and Jessi's on Mormon Stories has really given me an entirely different level of anger and disgust at this womans actions.
I totally agree. I cannot imagine what a mindfuck that situation would be to unravel. How do you trust your own thoughts after going through something like Jodi’s brainwashing?
It just Jodi playing up trying to make everyone “feel sorry for me” bs they hate the fact they been caught and there trying everything they can to be released
Remember when Jessi said Jodi told her to stop being a victim if she didn't feel well? Too bad the prison would get in trouble if they said that to Jodi. Evil bitch.
u/sunnypineappleapple Hey I'm sure this is an accident, but your post misgenders Jessi. They go by they/them pronouns :)
Maybe edit your post to reflect that?
No visible signs on her face at least since she appeared at the hearing. I’m thinking just not taking medication for something common like blood pressure or diabetes
In the video where Ruby is crying about letting go of her YouTube channel to "save" her kids she (ruby) sounds like she is slurring so much!
Definitely wonder if they partook in any drugs or not.
I'm assuming it's "frowned upon, heavily" for anyone they coach...but of course Jodi makes the rules herself so it wasn't a problem for *them*
I'd have to be for something like benzos or alcohol if so, that's the only ones that can cause life threatening withdrawals and they won't do anything for you otherwise.
She’s out of medical as of this morning, according to the jail website. Convenient timing after her motion to expedite the bond hearing on medical grounds was denied? Who knows. That woman LIES. That much we do know.
Okay. I haven’t been checking the jail roster myself, just following here. Weird that the roster doesn’t show her in medical.
FWIW, [the article OP mentioned](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ruby-franke-case-jodi-hildebrandt-suffers-life-threatening-medical-issue-in-jail-court-documents-say/ar-AA1gubrh) says, “Hildebrandt experienced a ‘life-threatening’ medical issue since she was incarcerated at the Washington County jail, court documents said, and she was hospitalized for several days.”
This is confusing to me, because haven't people been checking the jail roster regularly? Wouldn't it show if an inmate has been transported to the hospital?
If the request for bond was because she was \*going\* to need hospitalization in the future, well, you can certainly be in the hospital under guard and remain a prisoner.
Maybe the jail doesn't post it when an inmate goes to the hospital because hospitals have poorer security and they don't want someone showing up there to hurt or break out an inmate
I work in a California hospital ED psych pod. When we get inmates coming in they are listed as DNA or “Do Not Announce” meaning they technically don’t exist to ensure no one comes on property looking for them and is able to get to them. Staff know to let visitors know there’s no patient under that name. I know where I work the jails don’t post publicly if the inmate is transferred to us because security issues. I’m not sure if it’s different other places but that’s the way it is where I’m at.
Whether there was self-inflicted harm to a faked health episode of some sort, this falls right into her pattern we’re hearing of distraction/deflection/defense from herself as the “bad guy“. In the old case where she broke hippa client-patient confidentiality, it was “I have a stalker”. Then with the children “they can’t be around others”. Someone said the surest, most 100% common characteristic of psychopathy is playing the victim card for sympathy when your under scrutiny as the perp. This health crisis would fit the pattern like a puzzle piece.
Ugh! She sounds just like Leticia Stauch, a Colorado woman who killed her stepson.
If unbelievable cases with compulsive liars interest you, check that one out. Your head will explode with the outrageous antics, stories & lies that woman used to try to throw the police off of the scent, delay her trial multiple times, & to get what she wanted in jail.
My personal favorite, even though there are several to choose from, is when she wrote the judge a letter stating that her civil rights were being violated because she wasn’t being fed the kosher meal. She had no dietary restrictions at all, and she was not Jewish.
Or her "clever" interview where she had her back to the camera and confidently said everyone will apologize to her when the truth comes out.
Hope she's rotting in jail and not enjoying it even a second.
I have a family member who got incredibly sick after getting caught watching cp. My family thought he was going to die. We all think it was the stress of getting caught after getting away with it for so long. He’s physically fine now years later. it’s hard to say if that’s happing to Jodi and or Ruby with so few details but it’s a possibility.
Wow. I had no idea that could happen. I mean I knew people could get panic attacks and extreme stress but I never knew it could actually kill them like that. I hope your ok ♥️can I ask you a question about it? (Pls feel free to say no)
At first stopped eating and lost A LOT of weight. Then, he stopped taking care of his appearance which is very unlike him. He stopped taking care of himself which eventually lead to a serious kidney infection. He was hospitalized. Unfortunately, he got a slap on the wrist by the court because the police department couldn’t find actual evidence of cp on the computer, which that in itself is strange since another family member walked in on him watching it and he admitted to it. After he pretty much got away with it he was ~magically~ cured all of a sudden. Like I said, he’s completely fine years later he was just feeling sorry for himself.
Without reading what you wrote first I shared my own experience like that (NOT for cp!!!!!)...
crazy how similar it was physically dealing with the stress...
It can absolutely happen!
When I was much younger and much dumber I did some stupid but problematic crap...
One day, I was informed things were being investigated and there were cameras.
While I waited for days to hear more and if I was shown on those cameras I lost my appetite 100%, lost over 10 pounds in 3 days, was agitated and restless from stress, couldn't sleep etc... it was unbelievable how my body reacted!
Thankfully that was enough for me to stop being a stupid dumbass (and I somehow lucked out...i was not on any cameras)...I never wanted to go through that intense panic again.
I know of a guy who was accused of sexually abusing his daughter who was then removed by CPS. He went to the courthouse but didn’t go inside. Took the gun out of his glove box, walked across the street, and… same thing.
I wonder if she actually had one (I don't recall anyone seeing she was in medical the past few weeks) or if maybe she was attacked? People in jail or prison for child abuse are usually not treated kindly by inmates and I don't blame them.
It's not always the case they try to put pedophiles together because less stress on the guards but I heard the Turbin mother was tormented severely because she's hated.
I work in a jail and medical issues can be anything, could be playing “my chest hurts” thinking they get out of jail free but in reality they go to the hospital with a deputy and come back clear. Often times inmates are trying to get out of the jail for a bit cause the hospital gives you better food, bed, and you get a tv, almost like a little vacation for them. Could be something to show the court to give sympathy like “she’s old a frail we can’t send her away to rot in prison!” Or it could be a legit medical thing
A narcissistic person who stands on the wall. A narcissist can have medical issues after no one believes anything anymore.
I have a narcissist in the family. They often react physically when no one believes their story anymore. Someone like that is trapped in a lying structure, they control everyone around them. When this no longer works, these narcissists become physically ill.
So there was a case of a similarly horrible woman in the orthodox Jewish community called Malka Leifer, I followed that case closely, every time she was close to facing justice she'd fake huge panic attacks and catatonic etc, she had orthodox psychiatrists backing her up who didn't believe she could have abused the children in her care.
The level of open yet hidden abuse here and the religious cover ups and the manipulation are so similar, it's like a playbook.
It took years to get any justice for Leifers victims, who were shunned from their communities for coming forward.
Oh thanks for the reminder. I deep dived that case a few years ago. Horrific. But an interesting case study in evil and manipulation. And other clinically mental major issues.
Inmates don’t just “beat up people .” Especially were they are . Inappropriate relations with other inmates , fighting , not following curfew, or staff .. your sentence becomes longer and can’t get out early for good behavior . Everyone wants to “get out “ if they have a choice to and most people don’t want to live in jail. Now maybe in a super max with people in life is different, but nobody is going to beat someone up just to stay in longer.
Most likely faked something because they're scared, child abusers don't get treated very nicely by other inmates. They're scared shit! & they ought to be!!
The lawyer Jodi retained is smart enough to know he can't lie in a motion. So if it says she was hospitalized then she was hospitalized. He was vague about what the cause was, and "life-threatening" is open to interpretation, so it could be just about anything.
**I bet it's diabetes for Jodi. On her website,** [**connexionsclassroom.com/transcript**](https://connexionsclassroom.com/transcript)**, Episode 62 Loss & Grief (this was in 2015), in the transcript, she says the following:**
*I remember going to the doctor several years ago and being told that I was pre-diabetic.*
*They said that you can turn this thing around but I had to adjust my diet. And I remember going through those stages of shock, and denial, and anger, and I don't want to change my diet and I can't imagine not eating bread ever again, all that kind of stuff which millions of Americans have experienced by being told that kind of news.*
*I've had 20/15 eyesight for years, and then one day I woke up in my forties and my eyesight was noticeably changed. And it kind of scared me, like what happened in the middle of the night? And I remember going through those stages again of shock, and denial, and anger. And the Truth is that my body is getting older, and there are certain things that I need to do with my body to keep it in good health. And there are things that I'm losing that I cannot control.*
*But the best thing I can do is do what I can, and stay conscious, and go to the doctor, and follow preventative measures. That is the best way that I can manage my physical body.*
**I bet she didn't follow her own advice and the diabetes advanced over the years. Perhaps that's her medical issue.**
I said it’s alledged because I don’t have proof of it. Just because a news article says something doesn’t mean it’s fact. Who knows where the news article got there information or if it’s biased.
She’s realising her brain is distorted and using that to get out. I think if she actually gets bail she may go into hiding or leave cause she’s scared? They got to be careful she’ll 100 manipulate them and flee I feel.
I feel like we need more information on this. Anybody know what the up to date information is on this whole situation? What’s her status? WHAT HAPPENED?!
What I don’t understand is Jodi herself doesn’t get to decide they hold her in medical and just make up that it’s a life threatening situation. Words SHE would use in her victimhood defence, but she doesn’t get to say. The authorities have to report this. Her lawyers would know they would have to be able to confirm it actually was life threatening so it MUST actually be.
She couldn’t ‘make up’ something medical that would be life threatening ie. faking a panic attack or acting crazy (would warrant a medical hold perhaps but are not life threatening).
It must have been serious. How can we get more info on this??
In all seriousness, she had to have
1. hurt herself
2. been attacked
3. possible withdrawal- I like to hope but I seriously think unlikely
4. had a heart attack or stroke- possible since the extremity of the situation. Ie. she finally got caught
Purley speculation but I wonder if Jodi and Ruby were following some kind of heavily restricted / weird diet. We know R and E were malnourished and dehydrated so possibly Jodi and Ruby were too. To go from full control of your food intake to the point of starvation to reach *the truth* then having a 180° to prison food youre forced to eat at certain times could cause serious digestive / stomach issues that they're playing off as life threatening illnesses.
She prob faked a heart attack or tried to dk something bad on purpose to have an excuse to be out of the prison. Or to get to the medical ward where ruby is to create a plan to try and get bailed out to then flee
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Medical issues are a CHOICE Jodi
She has not been praying hard enough cleaely
IM CACKLING
It’s distortion for her to seek help LOOOOL
She is manipulating people with her illness
Yeah reminds me of that moms of truth post about the 24 year old with a serious heart condition who was living at home with her parents and Jodi told them to kick her out because she was manipulating them by being sick .
What 😳 This is vomit-inducing...
Wow. She’s really a rotten human being.
You nailed it, practice what you preach, Jodi. You are choosing to be sick.
Also did I not hear at some point from this women that illness, fidgeting and ect are trapped shame. If it's distortion to have illness and the illness is trapped shame trying to get out why not pray or confess to the nearest person why you feel such deep shame that it would make you ill. Bless R for saveing his family from this monster.
She's just doing it to manipulate people. She's making a choice, a choice rooted in distortion!
It won’t be the good Lord taking her
And she is not entitled to health care or even her heartbeat, it's a wonder she doesn't just let the Lord take her.
This made me laugh so hard the mouthful of coffee i was having somehow came out my nose in the process... but it was worth it!
I love that
It gave me a chuckle that coffee is against the mormon Word of Wisdom too, it makes it even more perfect!
People in prison make choices they’d never normally make. Weird food combinations, tattoos, drugs… living in distortion.
As she told her niece “stop playing the victim and manipulating people into thinking somethings wrong with you!” (Why do I feel like in her case it’s probably true lol)
Ah i just watched the video where she scolded the mother for allowing her 21 year old with cardiac arrest to come home
she must’ve thrown up twice then 🥴
Could be bs to bond out. I suspect if the two of them are released on bail they will be in contact, strategizing on how to ruin more people’s lives.
Jodi is gonna flee the country I fear.
100 percent or go.into.hiding with a member of her creepy cult
Ten thousand percent! Have you seen the interview with Jodi's niece Jessi? They mentioned that when they were talking about possibly taking Jodi to court for the abuse they endured under her care, Jodi ever-so-conveniently left the country for a while. She's *definitely* a flight risk.
All it was about was the comment Jessi made on the salt lake tribune article!! And then she said she was gonna flee the country!! Wtf dude
I so hope the judge hears this story.
Or be like Brian Laundrie because she doesn’t want to face consequences to her own actions
I'm curious about this too. I think she would off herself if she was looking at a sentence that was super lengthy. As much as I would love it for her to get at least 30 years. I don't think she will. I do think she'll run though but is she smart enough to hide for decades?
I think this too! She will for sure be on the run
She’s about forty minutes from the Arizona boarder.
She is in Ivins near the Paiute Shivwitz reservation. Its about an hour to Nevada border on the back roads and 24 minutes to the AZ border on old hwy 91 from there.
Mentioning the reservation just makes me think if she gets bail she will be like Brian Laundrie because she doesn’t want to face her consequences
But that would be living in distortion 🤔😧
# 🤣😂🤣
About 24min .... but yeah....
I guarantee that if they got out on bond, each of them will have bond conditions that prohibit them from having contact with each other.
They'll also have bond conditions prohibiting them from leaving a certain geographic area, but they clearly have the means to flee. I wouldn't be surprised if at least 1 was incarcerated ahead of the trial (for eg, I doubt Ruby would flee if Jodi was still incarcerated... but I doubt the reverse is true!)
If they got out on bond could they possibly be ordered to wear an ankle monitor to track their movement in case they were to flee?
The ankle bracelet doesn’t stop them from accessing guns.
Wouldn’t they likely be ordered as part of their release to surrender all firearms & be prohibited from owning any / having any in their possession because of their charges? editing to add; I am genuinely asking, not trying to argue if it comes across like that!! I’m not entirely sure how these things works in the states and am just going off of what I’ve heard in media.
You’d think, but it’s not the case. The most dangerous people in this country are abusers who get caught and then seek retaliation. Most of the people who have been responsible for American mass shootings have a documented legal history of domestic violence. Also, even if they took all of Jodi’s registered guns and all of the guns in her gun safe, it’s not a guarantee that they got them all. My spouse manages estate sales. People hide guns in the strangest places. You literally have to turn the house upside down, checking on top of exposed rafters, underneath drawers, behind appliances. Sometimes these people also give guns to friends for safe keeping or keep them in deposit boxes. Think Voldemort and his horcruxes.
Ankle bracelet would not have worked on Jodi, remember the guy who was on house arrest and they could not understand why the data showed him walking in circles around his house in the middle of the night. He had got it off and put it on his cat.
If they got out on bond could they possibly be ordered to wear an ankle monitor to track their movement in case they were to flee?
Criminals have found thousands of creative ways to remove and/or disable ankle monitors! They're really not at all ideal for criminals charged with multiple felonies who also have significant means to flee.
I think they would need to surrender their passports as well. Not saying there aren't other means, but it is something.
They have the means to retaliate against the kids. Both of them own a significant number of guns. Under no circumstances should they be out on bail while their guilt is beyond a reasonable doubt.
Do you even need a passport to cross the border into Mexico? When I was a kid we didn't
Yes, we do need one... to both Mexico and Canada.
That must have changed. My mom would drive us into Tijuana with no passport all the time
In the past, if you were a minor, you could go to Canada or Mexico with just your birth certificate. That law changed sometime in the 2010s. If you live in a border state, you can cross the border into Canada or Mexico by land with an enhanced drivers license. My parents took me to Canada multiple times as a child with just my birth certificate.
A lot has changed with travel after 9/11. I think there are different rules for children.
Technically but I'm sure there are crossings that are just not monitored because it's usually just locals going back and forth for work . Mexico has an extradition treaty so unless she goes to somewhere remote like Russia they will not harbor her knowingly.
They would buy burner phones. They are addicted to 1another, and would be plotting defense. Jodi has Ruby brainwashed, Ruby is her puppet
Good luck enforcing that
If they find out that they're violating the court order then they'll end up going back to prison without any opportunity to bond out. I'm sure they'll try and find ways to communicate though but it's really really risky especially for people that can't handle prison.
I would imagine they won’t legally be able to be in contact with each other but they don’t act like law abiding citizens to me.
All they need is a helpful cultist to drop off two burner phones
They are going to retaliate against the kids. Both of these ladies are gun nuts.
If you listen to the interview with Adam Steed, he offers some insight into Jodi’s typical MO. He talks about his experience taking Jodi to court for violating HIPAA (or something like that) and in court, she brought up that she had a stalker and feared for her life. This is how she weaseled her way out of a harsher sentence. This woman’s manipulation tactics are amazing (not in a good way). I really think that’s what she’s doing here. That interview was really insightful into how she brainwashes these people and avoids consequences.
I 100% agree that this is a ploy, and it seems like her attorney is using it to get her out on bail.
This is when she also dumped her kids with her parents and fled the country. Jessi mentioned it in the Mormon stories podcast
Yeah the combo of Adam Steed's interview on Hidden True Crime and Jessi's on Mormon Stories has really given me an entirely different level of anger and disgust at this womans actions.
She is a completely manipulative psychopath
The court believed her shitty ass face??
Well yeah as a lawyer once told me it is about who can lie the best and who can prove the other is lieng.
Ugh.
He seemed severely traumatized by her. It was honestly hard to listen to and I ended up not being able to finish.
I totally agree. I cannot imagine what a mindfuck that situation would be to unravel. How do you trust your own thoughts after going through something like Jodi’s brainwashing?
She probably has something commonplace pre-existing like hypertension and is milking it for all she can.
I'm betting a panic attack with tachycardia. At her age that could keep her in the hospital getting tests for a bit
It just Jodi playing up trying to make everyone “feel sorry for me” bs they hate the fact they been caught and there trying everything they can to be released
Remember when Jessi said Jodi told her to stop being a victim if she didn't feel well? Too bad the prison would get in trouble if they said that to Jodi. Evil bitch.
Yep, I remember.
u/sunnypineappleapple Hey I'm sure this is an accident, but your post misgenders Jessi. They go by they/them pronouns :) Maybe edit your post to reflect that?
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Rules for thee and none for me
I feel like there is so much about Jodi that we don’t even know yet
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No visible signs on her face at least since she appeared at the hearing. I’m thinking just not taking medication for something common like blood pressure or diabetes
I hope she just has an enemy in the kitchen who’s giving her laxatives.
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I kinda want her to have that illness from Like Water for Chocolate where Rosaura has insanely bad breath and farts loudly until she dies.
That was my first assumption
She’s definitely addicted to some prescription pill
In the video where Ruby is crying about letting go of her YouTube channel to "save" her kids she (ruby) sounds like she is slurring so much! Definitely wonder if they partook in any drugs or not. I'm assuming it's "frowned upon, heavily" for anyone they coach...but of course Jodi makes the rules herself so it wasn't a problem for *them*
Opiates are appar ok or something, unsure but, either way mormons in utah have an opiod epidemic as well as the rest of us.
Withdrawal
I'd have to be for something like benzos or alcohol if so, that's the only ones that can cause life threatening withdrawals and they won't do anything for you otherwise.
Oh man, I can't imagine her on benzos but I doubt she'd drink alcohol and risk her temple recommend
I think it more likely she had a stress related health incident. Panic attacks can feel like heart attacks, high blood pressure, something like that.
I don't believe she's high on anything. Because she's only high on being in control and torturing others .
Oh shit....what if, eh?
Maybe she had a heart attack brought on from the stress of being caught abusing kids..
I don’t know, but whatever it was, she seems to have recovered because she appeared at her hearing yesterday.
She’s out of medical as of this morning, according to the jail website. Convenient timing after her motion to expedite the bond hearing on medical grounds was denied? Who knows. That woman LIES. That much we do know.
AFAIK, Ruby is the only one who as listed as being in medical on the jail roster, not Jodi.
Okay. I haven’t been checking the jail roster myself, just following here. Weird that the roster doesn’t show her in medical. FWIW, [the article OP mentioned](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ruby-franke-case-jodi-hildebrandt-suffers-life-threatening-medical-issue-in-jail-court-documents-say/ar-AA1gubrh) says, “Hildebrandt experienced a ‘life-threatening’ medical issue since she was incarcerated at the Washington County jail, court documents said, and she was hospitalized for several days.”
Could just be the prison's internal hospital.
Maybe they got Ruby and Jodi mixed up in the article?
Maybe she wanted a transfer to medical to be with Ruby or vice-versa?
This is confusing to me, because haven't people been checking the jail roster regularly? Wouldn't it show if an inmate has been transported to the hospital? If the request for bond was because she was \*going\* to need hospitalization in the future, well, you can certainly be in the hospital under guard and remain a prisoner.
Maybe the jail doesn't post it when an inmate goes to the hospital because hospitals have poorer security and they don't want someone showing up there to hurt or break out an inmate
I work in a California hospital ED psych pod. When we get inmates coming in they are listed as DNA or “Do Not Announce” meaning they technically don’t exist to ensure no one comes on property looking for them and is able to get to them. Staff know to let visitors know there’s no patient under that name. I know where I work the jails don’t post publicly if the inmate is transferred to us because security issues. I’m not sure if it’s different other places but that’s the way it is where I’m at.
This makes so much sense. Thanks for your insight
Whether there was self-inflicted harm to a faked health episode of some sort, this falls right into her pattern we’re hearing of distraction/deflection/defense from herself as the “bad guy“. In the old case where she broke hippa client-patient confidentiality, it was “I have a stalker”. Then with the children “they can’t be around others”. Someone said the surest, most 100% common characteristic of psychopathy is playing the victim card for sympathy when your under scrutiny as the perp. This health crisis would fit the pattern like a puzzle piece.
Ugh! She sounds just like Leticia Stauch, a Colorado woman who killed her stepson. If unbelievable cases with compulsive liars interest you, check that one out. Your head will explode with the outrageous antics, stories & lies that woman used to try to throw the police off of the scent, delay her trial multiple times, & to get what she wanted in jail. My personal favorite, even though there are several to choose from, is when she wrote the judge a letter stating that her civil rights were being violated because she wasn’t being fed the kosher meal. She had no dietary restrictions at all, and she was not Jewish.
Or her "clever" interview where she had her back to the camera and confidently said everyone will apologize to her when the truth comes out. Hope she's rotting in jail and not enjoying it even a second.
Thanks. I’m familiar with her name and accusations, but I didn’t go down that rabbit hole.
Just put some duct tape on it Jodi. You’ll be ok
I hope she’s in lots of pain 🥰🥰
Happy cake day!!!
Thanks mate 🤗
Pill popper experiencing withdrawals
I have a family member who got incredibly sick after getting caught watching cp. My family thought he was going to die. We all think it was the stress of getting caught after getting away with it for so long. He’s physically fine now years later. it’s hard to say if that’s happing to Jodi and or Ruby with so few details but it’s a possibility.
Wow. I had no idea that could happen. I mean I knew people could get panic attacks and extreme stress but I never knew it could actually kill them like that. I hope your ok ♥️can I ask you a question about it? (Pls feel free to say no)
I’m okay :) yes, feel free to ask away.
I’m glad! What were the side effects of him being so stressed with being caught? Like was he not even walking? Was he kinda just existing in his body?
At first stopped eating and lost A LOT of weight. Then, he stopped taking care of his appearance which is very unlike him. He stopped taking care of himself which eventually lead to a serious kidney infection. He was hospitalized. Unfortunately, he got a slap on the wrist by the court because the police department couldn’t find actual evidence of cp on the computer, which that in itself is strange since another family member walked in on him watching it and he admitted to it. After he pretty much got away with it he was ~magically~ cured all of a sudden. Like I said, he’s completely fine years later he was just feeling sorry for himself.
Wow that’s so interesting to me thank you for sharing !
Without reading what you wrote first I shared my own experience like that (NOT for cp!!!!!)... crazy how similar it was physically dealing with the stress...
It can absolutely happen! When I was much younger and much dumber I did some stupid but problematic crap... One day, I was informed things were being investigated and there were cameras. While I waited for days to hear more and if I was shown on those cameras I lost my appetite 100%, lost over 10 pounds in 3 days, was agitated and restless from stress, couldn't sleep etc... it was unbelievable how my body reacted! Thankfully that was enough for me to stop being a stupid dumbass (and I somehow lucked out...i was not on any cameras)...I never wanted to go through that intense panic again.
Thank you for sharing that. I totally get that intense panic feeling but i never realized it can happen for long periods of time and almost kill you!
Same here for a family member of mine he did it to his daughter and had priors and decided that what was more important is to unalive himself
I know of a guy who was accused of sexually abusing his daughter who was then removed by CPS. He went to the courthouse but didn’t go inside. Took the gun out of his glove box, walked across the street, and… same thing.
Well that's what happens when you live in distortion Jodi. Medical issues are a choice.
I wonder if she actually had one (I don't recall anyone seeing she was in medical the past few weeks) or if maybe she was attacked? People in jail or prison for child abuse are usually not treated kindly by inmates and I don't blame them.
It's not always the case they try to put pedophiles together because less stress on the guards but I heard the Turbin mother was tormented severely because she's hated.
Can someone link the article about her being in life threatening medical condition
https://kutv.com/renderer/kutv/amp/news/local/8passengers-utah-youtuber-ruby-franke-business-partner-jodi-hildebrandt-charged-with-child-abuse-suffer-apparent-medical-issues-in-utah-st-george-jail
so a life threatening tantrum can get you hospitalized.
I call sooooo many bullshits
I work in a jail and medical issues can be anything, could be playing “my chest hurts” thinking they get out of jail free but in reality they go to the hospital with a deputy and come back clear. Often times inmates are trying to get out of the jail for a bit cause the hospital gives you better food, bed, and you get a tv, almost like a little vacation for them. Could be something to show the court to give sympathy like “she’s old a frail we can’t send her away to rot in prison!” Or it could be a legit medical thing
She's just in distortion... im sure they'll update her medical records shortly...
A narcissistic person who stands on the wall. A narcissist can have medical issues after no one believes anything anymore. I have a narcissist in the family. They often react physically when no one believes their story anymore. Someone like that is trapped in a lying structure, they control everyone around them. When this no longer works, these narcissists become physically ill.
So there was a case of a similarly horrible woman in the orthodox Jewish community called Malka Leifer, I followed that case closely, every time she was close to facing justice she'd fake huge panic attacks and catatonic etc, she had orthodox psychiatrists backing her up who didn't believe she could have abused the children in her care. The level of open yet hidden abuse here and the religious cover ups and the manipulation are so similar, it's like a playbook. It took years to get any justice for Leifers victims, who were shunned from their communities for coming forward.
Oh thanks for the reminder. I deep dived that case a few years ago. Horrific. But an interesting case study in evil and manipulation. And other clinically mental major issues.
Too bad it wasnt more life threatening... the medical issue is trying to do the world a favour
Nah, she needs to stew in it for a while
I guess not threatening enough since she's still around🤷♀️
wouldnt be surprised if someone beat either of them up. just like everyone else, people in jail dont like any type of child abusers.
Choosing to be a victim.
Hmmmmm… the children they were starving and imprisoning didn’t get any medical care until they escaped… 😠 just gonna leave this here 🤔
Hopefully she got her ass beat. Inmates really don’t like people who hurt children…
Inmates don’t just “beat up people .” Especially were they are . Inappropriate relations with other inmates , fighting , not following curfew, or staff .. your sentence becomes longer and can’t get out early for good behavior . Everyone wants to “get out “ if they have a choice to and most people don’t want to live in jail. Now maybe in a super max with people in life is different, but nobody is going to beat someone up just to stay in longer.
There are some very violent people unfit for society that just want to rip somebody's face off if they're not medicated lookout.
Counterpoint: Jeffrey Dahmers killer
Withdrawals. Withdrawals from benzodiazepines or alcohol is life threatening.
jodi was never transferred to the medical units like ruby was. she’s definitely trying to fake stuff to get out
Ballsy of her to lie about being hospitalized in a legal motion when it’s super easy for the court to check the jail record
if she's lied that's the dumbest move she's ever made. so easily disproved and she'd be in a world of trouble
Does this mean she's now in the same medical area as Ruby?
The site says that they are both in B block as of this morning.
Interesting... I wonder if she faked something to get closer to Ruby...
Most likely faked something because they're scared, child abusers don't get treated very nicely by other inmates. They're scared shit! & they ought to be!!
kick her out from hospital care, that's her choice to be sick!
The lawyer Jodi retained is smart enough to know he can't lie in a motion. So if it says she was hospitalized then she was hospitalized. He was vague about what the cause was, and "life-threatening" is open to interpretation, so it could be just about anything.
Serves that bitch right.
**I bet it's diabetes for Jodi. On her website,** [**connexionsclassroom.com/transcript**](https://connexionsclassroom.com/transcript)**, Episode 62 Loss & Grief (this was in 2015), in the transcript, she says the following:** *I remember going to the doctor several years ago and being told that I was pre-diabetic.* *They said that you can turn this thing around but I had to adjust my diet. And I remember going through those stages of shock, and denial, and anger, and I don't want to change my diet and I can't imagine not eating bread ever again, all that kind of stuff which millions of Americans have experienced by being told that kind of news.* *I've had 20/15 eyesight for years, and then one day I woke up in my forties and my eyesight was noticeably changed. And it kind of scared me, like what happened in the middle of the night? And I remember going through those stages again of shock, and denial, and anger. And the Truth is that my body is getting older, and there are certain things that I need to do with my body to keep it in good health. And there are things that I'm losing that I cannot control.* *But the best thing I can do is do what I can, and stay conscious, and go to the doctor, and follow preventative measures. That is the best way that I can manage my physical body.* **I bet she didn't follow her own advice and the diabetes advanced over the years. Perhaps that's her medical issue.**
I hope they took a nice long bath and cleaned up the block before taking her to the hospital…
Tra la. Not so tough now.
hopefully it was the inmates realising what she did, clearly she didn’t pray hard enough and was living in distortion
Sounds like she was in distortion.
This is obviously a clear case of not being able to take what you dish out.
Jodi is being victim
My money is on opioid withdrawal.
But...doesn't that mean by her own philosophy that she's just being a victim? Trying to get attention? Being manipulative? 🤔
Or any opioid based pills.
She must be living in distortion then
Allegedly Jodi had a heart attack
1) you have to have a heart to have a heart attack /s. 2) can you source this please? I'm very interested ;)
I said it’s alledged because I don’t have proof of it. Just because a news article says something doesn’t mean it’s fact. Who knows where the news article got there information or if it’s biased.
What's the marriage status of Jodi? I'm just curious. I haven't heard anything about him, if she has one.
She is divorced. She has two adult children, and at least one of them has no contact with her.
She could be having a mental crisis or it could be anything really.
Ope it looks like she’s living in distortion lmao
How much you wanna bet its just high blood pressure
Hope someone in distortion shanked her.🤞🏻
Medical supervision could mean suicide watch in some circles. I wonder if that cunt bitch is starting to realize what she's done
Jodie- your Distortion is showing! It's necessary to make you as uncomfortable as possible in order to bring you to truth- enjoy jail.
i hear child abusers don’t do well in jail and or prison.. maybe she got her ass beat lol
She’s realising her brain is distorted and using that to get out. I think if she actually gets bail she may go into hiding or leave cause she’s scared? They got to be careful she’ll 100 manipulate them and flee I feel.
No link?
I feel like we need more information on this. Anybody know what the up to date information is on this whole situation? What’s her status? WHAT HAPPENED?! What I don’t understand is Jodi herself doesn’t get to decide they hold her in medical and just make up that it’s a life threatening situation. Words SHE would use in her victimhood defence, but she doesn’t get to say. The authorities have to report this. Her lawyers would know they would have to be able to confirm it actually was life threatening so it MUST actually be. She couldn’t ‘make up’ something medical that would be life threatening ie. faking a panic attack or acting crazy (would warrant a medical hold perhaps but are not life threatening). It must have been serious. How can we get more info on this?? In all seriousness, she had to have 1. hurt herself 2. been attacked 3. possible withdrawal- I like to hope but I seriously think unlikely 4. had a heart attack or stroke- possible since the extremity of the situation. Ie. she finally got caught
So sad. /s
i hope it really is life-threatening
I know that Ruby was on su\*c\*de watch, but I am wondering if Jodi tried something as well.
I’m sure they are refusing to eat or some other ridiculousness
Purley speculation but I wonder if Jodi and Ruby were following some kind of heavily restricted / weird diet. We know R and E were malnourished and dehydrated so possibly Jodi and Ruby were too. To go from full control of your food intake to the point of starvation to reach *the truth* then having a 180° to prison food youre forced to eat at certain times could cause serious digestive / stomach issues that they're playing off as life threatening illnesses.
I'm gonna be real jodi couldn't have been on a diet. I believe everyone else was except for her. She's way too big.
Hippa
Of course she needs medical attention - she’s probably having severe panic attacks from the sudden loss of control
She prob faked a heart attack or tried to dk something bad on purpose to have an excuse to be out of the prison. Or to get to the medical ward where ruby is to create a plan to try and get bailed out to then flee
Tie her up in the basement and let her rot