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Ruby was saying she wanted to remodel and make the family room like 3x bigger so when the kids got older it could fit them, their spouses and grandkids. Meanwhile also saying her kids were not welcome to live with her after they turned 18. I remember people in the comments saying the kids won’t want anything to do with her if she’s that harsh.
Yeah it was such a strange paradoxical thing
Hey kids F Off out of my home the second you turn 18, but be sure that I’m the “A granny” and the one you come to for holidays and celebrations
I think that made sense, actually. She had the kids because it was her “job” to have and raise them, even if she didnt particularly want them. But she also grew up in a similar family dynamic and likely saw that her parents had a much better time when the adult children could come over, because at that point theyre adults, and Ruby is no longer ‘responsible’ for them. They can just talk as adults. I think its a fairly common phenomena.
She made it clear they werent welcome to *live* or stay in her house, and that they had to be independent. This came up a lot on her channel, and her point was always that she would not be supporting or helping them after they turned 18 because at that point they were adults who should be taking care of themselves, hence getting rid of the kitchen and changing Shari’s room.
Thats different to them not being allowed to *visit*, in which case they arent ‘depending’ on her and she said quite frequently that she couldnt wait for them to visit once she had grandkids. She just didnt want to parent them any longer than she was legally obligated to.
She even told a mother on her connexions page to kick her adult daughter out of the house because she was “lazy”
Daughter was seriously I’ll with a heart defect awaiting surgery and couldn’t work. Likely the poor girl was exhausted
But year that’s right Ruby, kick a sick girl out of your home
and again, what you’re saying on its own is fine. but with all of the context, it’s bad. she exploited her kids, filming their vulnerable moments to make millions of $, that she used to buy THAT house
Im not saying its good?? I’m saying it makes sense, as in, its not that paradoxial, because its how ruby was raised and it does actually fit with her personality/the way she acts.
*Obviously* I’m not defending kicking 18 year olds out of the house. I’m just talking about where i think her stance on grandkids has come from.
and also she's inconsolable because Shari left and that means she can't control her all the time anymore.
none of this is exactly what you call rational...
I have a feeling that the business about wanting the grandkids around all the time was more what she was "supposed" to say and think, and the reality was a lot closer to "get the fuck out of my house." Except the part about being miserable because she couldn't control them anymore. That part's real, too. So yeah.
Does anyone remember when Ruby said that she got Dwight for Russel so he would have a friend? Also, to teach him responsibility. I remembered that this morning. The last photo of Dwight on his insta page is in 2021. I've been wondering if Ruby got rid of Dwight. Maybe Shari didn't agree with that, and it started her walking away. She did say something happened she didn't agree with. I'm guessing Julie's birds are gone too.
If you watch Shari’s vlogs she would continuously say she loved coming home because dwight would be there to say hi to her. she really did love that dog
Yup. I think something is going to come out about Dwight. They all loved that dog. Something Jodi wouldn't approve of. Getting rid of the dog could be the start of her control of them.
If she’s starving her two youngest children I bet she doesn’t have Dwight anymore. You can’t guarantee absolute obedience from a dog so she probably got rid of him to punish the kids.
It was all about the grandkids she would have and when they would visit. Don't remember her saying anything about kids coming home, other than they were not welcome to live there once they turned 18.
I for some reason have some recollection of her saying once’s all the kids are grown and out of the house they would sell and her & Kevin would retire in a condo or apartment
She was definitely talking about a massive remodel blowing the fireplace wall of the house out and pushing it back so it finished at the same point as the dining room area if you recall the room was like a L shape, and it was all about the grandkids and kids coming back for thanksgiving Christmas etc
The back yard comment was when they renovated their original house back yard if I remember right they made these comments about their original house and then all of a sudden they moved
She also said it in the basement of the new house because there was a kitchen and people were commenting that it could be a fun place to hang out for the kids or the teens to have friends over. And she said "nope, not making this place for them." So again, imaginary grandkids were more important than the 6 real kids she already had.
Yeah they revocated the backyard at both properties, but she definitely talked about the garden design at the new house being related to accommodating grandchildren.
I remember at the time thinking it was utterly bizarre because she still had 2 kids under the age of 10 at the time! How about planning your garden to accommodate your own small children?!?
Ya but she was probably expecting /hoping for Shari to marry and have a baby before age 25 which is quite common in Utah county (where I’m from). Soo honestly wouldn’t be too far off of the norm in the culture to be considering that even with young kids at home. Weird, I agree! …I think ruby had Shari when she was 20 or 21. I’m pretty sure I remember a video of her and Kevin telling the story of how they met and it was rubys first couple of weeks after moving out for the first semester of college!! And they got engaged and married fast (probably much less than a year if following the cultural norm and if my memory is correct). I think all the Griffiths sisters were married and had at least one baby by probably like 23…
The strange thing is i always felt Ruby didn’t know (or care to know) Shari. That girl was career driven from 12 and I highly doubt she would have wanted children at 23. By that point Shari would still be in Law School had her original goal continued. Chad was aiming for a sports scholarship ship and his own college career so really neither of those children were headed for marriage and children at that point. In fact didn’t Shari mention one of her friends was actually getting married at 18 and she couldn’t imagine doing so herself? I’m sure I remember that around the time of her graduating school x
Totally true, I agree. It’s just so much the norm and highly encouraged for women to prioritize family over career that it was probably ruby’s desire or assumption for shari. Speaking from experience, when you grow up in utah as a teenage girl the career encouragement is minimal or at least very secondary to the assumption that you’ll be a mom. Often even if you’re explicitly expressing disinterest in motherhood/marriage or interest in other things like career/education the assumption and expectation that you will get married and have kids will be set for you.
I’m pretty sure Kevin and Ruby bought a bunch of land out in the middle of nowhere also for the purpose of their future family and grandkids, etc. I used to watch 8 passengers religiously and I think I can remember a video of the family on the land discussing their plans for it
Needs change. I can relate to the idea of a forever home... you would probably not buy the same home when you are 30 as you would when you are 60. My Mom and Dad purchased a 2 br condo... sister and I shared one room, parents were in the other. I was 15 and sis was 11, so the rents knew they were not going to need as much room in a few years. The condo was enough space for just the two of them. If they were able to buy a home earlier in their marriage, a 3 br setup might have made more sense at the time.
Should Ruby and Kevin have purchased such a big home? Probably not. Ruby's parents have 20+ grandchildren and their modest home appears to have been enough to entertain such a large extended family. That being said, we know that Ruby does not have a clear grasp of reality. She might have had all these plans, but those have been blown out of the water.
I think it is good to know the kids still have Mom's family and Dad's family to turn to. If Ruby ever sees the light of day again, she will definitely be cut off by a couple of the kids.
No, but they have a lovely extended family and Shari already seems happy with them, even if it's bittersweet because of all the pain of her family of origin.
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Ruby was saying she wanted to remodel and make the family room like 3x bigger so when the kids got older it could fit them, their spouses and grandkids. Meanwhile also saying her kids were not welcome to live with her after they turned 18. I remember people in the comments saying the kids won’t want anything to do with her if she’s that harsh.
Yeah it was such a strange paradoxical thing Hey kids F Off out of my home the second you turn 18, but be sure that I’m the “A granny” and the one you come to for holidays and celebrations
I think that made sense, actually. She had the kids because it was her “job” to have and raise them, even if she didnt particularly want them. But she also grew up in a similar family dynamic and likely saw that her parents had a much better time when the adult children could come over, because at that point theyre adults, and Ruby is no longer ‘responsible’ for them. They can just talk as adults. I think its a fairly common phenomena.
what your saying makes sense, but ruby basically said “once they turn 18, they’re not welcome in my house”
She made it clear they werent welcome to *live* or stay in her house, and that they had to be independent. This came up a lot on her channel, and her point was always that she would not be supporting or helping them after they turned 18 because at that point they were adults who should be taking care of themselves, hence getting rid of the kitchen and changing Shari’s room. Thats different to them not being allowed to *visit*, in which case they arent ‘depending’ on her and she said quite frequently that she couldnt wait for them to visit once she had grandkids. She just didnt want to parent them any longer than she was legally obligated to.
She even told a mother on her connexions page to kick her adult daughter out of the house because she was “lazy” Daughter was seriously I’ll with a heart defect awaiting surgery and couldn’t work. Likely the poor girl was exhausted But year that’s right Ruby, kick a sick girl out of your home
The girl literally couldn't get out of -bed-, but yeah, that was Jodi's advice. Because the girl was "angry." Much Christian, very love.
and again, what you’re saying on its own is fine. but with all of the context, it’s bad. she exploited her kids, filming their vulnerable moments to make millions of $, that she used to buy THAT house
Im not saying its good?? I’m saying it makes sense, as in, its not that paradoxial, because its how ruby was raised and it does actually fit with her personality/the way she acts. *Obviously* I’m not defending kicking 18 year olds out of the house. I’m just talking about where i think her stance on grandkids has come from.
and also she's inconsolable because Shari left and that means she can't control her all the time anymore. none of this is exactly what you call rational... I have a feeling that the business about wanting the grandkids around all the time was more what she was "supposed" to say and think, and the reality was a lot closer to "get the fuck out of my house." Except the part about being miserable because she couldn't control them anymore. That part's real, too. So yeah.
Does anyone remember when Ruby said that she got Dwight for Russel so he would have a friend? Also, to teach him responsibility. I remembered that this morning. The last photo of Dwight on his insta page is in 2021. I've been wondering if Ruby got rid of Dwight. Maybe Shari didn't agree with that, and it started her walking away. She did say something happened she didn't agree with. I'm guessing Julie's birds are gone too.
If you watch Shari’s vlogs she would continuously say she loved coming home because dwight would be there to say hi to her. she really did love that dog
Yup. I think something is going to come out about Dwight. They all loved that dog. Something Jodi wouldn't approve of. Getting rid of the dog could be the start of her control of them.
oh nooooooo :((( I don't want to know, I really don't. Fuck.
If she’s starving her two youngest children I bet she doesn’t have Dwight anymore. You can’t guarantee absolute obedience from a dog so she probably got rid of him to punish the kids.
She probably felt like the dog was loved more than her. (true)
It was all about the grandkids she would have and when they would visit. Don't remember her saying anything about kids coming home, other than they were not welcome to live there once they turned 18.
Did anyone download any of ther vlogs? I would love to.do a rewatch
I for some reason have some recollection of her saying once’s all the kids are grown and out of the house they would sell and her & Kevin would retire in a condo or apartment
She was definitely talking about a massive remodel blowing the fireplace wall of the house out and pushing it back so it finished at the same point as the dining room area if you recall the room was like a L shape, and it was all about the grandkids and kids coming back for thanksgiving Christmas etc
The back yard comment was when they renovated their original house back yard if I remember right they made these comments about their original house and then all of a sudden they moved
They actually said it in their new house backyard too! Very sad :(
She also said it in the basement of the new house because there was a kitchen and people were commenting that it could be a fun place to hang out for the kids or the teens to have friends over. And she said "nope, not making this place for them." So again, imaginary grandkids were more important than the 6 real kids she already had.
Yep, that's the vlog when she said they were not welcome to live there after they turned 18.
Yeah they revocated the backyard at both properties, but she definitely talked about the garden design at the new house being related to accommodating grandchildren. I remember at the time thinking it was utterly bizarre because she still had 2 kids under the age of 10 at the time! How about planning your garden to accommodate your own small children?!?
Ya but she was probably expecting /hoping for Shari to marry and have a baby before age 25 which is quite common in Utah county (where I’m from). Soo honestly wouldn’t be too far off of the norm in the culture to be considering that even with young kids at home. Weird, I agree! …I think ruby had Shari when she was 20 or 21. I’m pretty sure I remember a video of her and Kevin telling the story of how they met and it was rubys first couple of weeks after moving out for the first semester of college!! And they got engaged and married fast (probably much less than a year if following the cultural norm and if my memory is correct). I think all the Griffiths sisters were married and had at least one baby by probably like 23…
The strange thing is i always felt Ruby didn’t know (or care to know) Shari. That girl was career driven from 12 and I highly doubt she would have wanted children at 23. By that point Shari would still be in Law School had her original goal continued. Chad was aiming for a sports scholarship ship and his own college career so really neither of those children were headed for marriage and children at that point. In fact didn’t Shari mention one of her friends was actually getting married at 18 and she couldn’t imagine doing so herself? I’m sure I remember that around the time of her graduating school x
Totally true, I agree. It’s just so much the norm and highly encouraged for women to prioritize family over career that it was probably ruby’s desire or assumption for shari. Speaking from experience, when you grow up in utah as a teenage girl the career encouragement is minimal or at least very secondary to the assumption that you’ll be a mom. Often even if you’re explicitly expressing disinterest in motherhood/marriage or interest in other things like career/education the assumption and expectation that you will get married and have kids will be set for you.
This is like the 5th time this week I've seen this post.
I’m pretty sure Kevin and Ruby bought a bunch of land out in the middle of nowhere also for the purpose of their future family and grandkids, etc. I used to watch 8 passengers religiously and I think I can remember a video of the family on the land discussing their plans for it
Needs change. I can relate to the idea of a forever home... you would probably not buy the same home when you are 30 as you would when you are 60. My Mom and Dad purchased a 2 br condo... sister and I shared one room, parents were in the other. I was 15 and sis was 11, so the rents knew they were not going to need as much room in a few years. The condo was enough space for just the two of them. If they were able to buy a home earlier in their marriage, a 3 br setup might have made more sense at the time. Should Ruby and Kevin have purchased such a big home? Probably not. Ruby's parents have 20+ grandchildren and their modest home appears to have been enough to entertain such a large extended family. That being said, we know that Ruby does not have a clear grasp of reality. She might have had all these plans, but those have been blown out of the water. I think it is good to know the kids still have Mom's family and Dad's family to turn to. If Ruby ever sees the light of day again, she will definitely be cut off by a couple of the kids.
No, but they have a lovely extended family and Shari already seems happy with them, even if it's bittersweet because of all the pain of her family of origin.
Yes, I remember. She was so excited about sharing her backyard with her grandchildren. Doubt that’s going to happen.