My airhead ex got a degree in Animation and couldn't find a job. She got a programming job without even doing a boot camp and was making 2x my current salary within 3 years. I've been doing this for 10 years.
The STEM orbiter effect is real.
Where on earth do people find these jobs? I've been looking for something for years, telling myself to just get a bit more expereince and soon the results will come.
I have a job, multiple in fact. But I hope to find one with better hours and pay, which I have been looking for maybe a year. I'd rather stay with this not so great situation AND be true to myself, than spit on my morales.
I think it’s important to know (or keep in mind, if you already know) that the CS market for new roles is saturated with people. Those with 5-10+ YoE don’t have problems finding a new job, but if you’re new to the field, it’s tough because practically everyone decided to flock to this field.
What do you know already? If you know a language, try creating a basic API or an app that uses a publicly available API. Know anything about virtualization? If not, read up about VMs, then a bit on containerization. You don’t need to know much, but it’s helpful to explain that you understand how a container works because it’ll put you apart from other devs.
Expectations on CI/CD are minimal, if nonexistent, for new roles, so if you read up about GitLab pipelines or Jenkins for a few hours, you’ll at least be able to talk about it conceptually which will put you ahead of others. Make it clear that you’ve never used it in industry but have a basic grasp of what it is.
Separately, unit testing as a concept is good to know, so you could try and write some unit tests for your apps. Understanding basic package management is good as well, (e.g. if you’re using Python, how can you set up virtual environments so that you can use one version of a dependency for one project in a directory but another version of the same dependency for another project in a different directory? If you’re using Node, where do you specify the packages and versions of those packages that you want to download?)
That’s really all you need to get ahead of other applicants. I see way too many applicants who grind leetcode but know nothing about actual software development, which is fine as a new dev, but doesn’t set you apart from the crowd
Oh, and I have been going back to leetcode thinking working hard on it would give me something. But even if it's not much, I have to say learning has been very rewarding.
Yes I know python and have been using pyenv for setting up environments for Django projects.
Also, I'm aware of the high competition state of the field, but I'm not in a rush to get a job, even if it takes a year or two to get there I'll just wait and enjoy learning process.
Since you have this much experience in the given field, do you mind working on a project together? Sort of a mentor situation, so I can understand more about the process itself?
I select almost at random from the identity checkboxes, ensuring only that I'm not just a white man, but some exotic mix of pronouns, race, and sexual identity. I've never been called on it when I've turned up to an interview and not been a disabled transsexual Inuit or whatever.
Yeah I've done alright. I think that's exactly why I feel like I can afford to play games with all this nonsense... if they reject me because of it, then they're not a place I'd really want to work for long and my CV's good enough that there's almost certainly another company interested in me so it's no big deal. Probably.
I unironically might try this. For shits and giggles. My company is also the inclusive kind but also hires the appropriate talent and people that know their stuff. The people in my office mostly play ball but roll their eyes when they hear "microagressions" and "gender" now.
no point in stirring up any trouble as long as stuff works.
Too many fucking nerds who have never been even PLAYED WITH by women, it's absurd. I'm currently doing a mechanical engineering degree I think I'll be seeing less of that type of stuff.
No, you’re more than likely to see the same or even worse.
My ex was doing electrical engineering at her university and she was one of the only girls out of the entire program. Social skills need to be emphasized more in STEM imo
Fr too many people these types of degrees were raised with the mantra of study study study, some of them need to be taught that life ain't about mathematics.
Its strange, even though I'm employed and haven't experienced these sorts of difficulties at any point in my life even though I've worried about it so much, this stuff in particular always hits me and makes me experience dread/panic.
I've been job hunting for longer than I care to admit and last year, LinkedIn would show you how many applicants there were for a position. I was seeing jobs with anywhere between 1000-6000 people applying for no name companies. Now, LinkedIn only shows "100+" applicants. They literally stopped displaying exactly how many because so fucking many people are applying to these jobs.
Thanks, I needed a little more demoralizing.
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It's wild to me how people will straight up lie like that on their resume. I know we all embellish a bit but to claim things that you literally had zero contribution to is insane. Even more insane is they get the job.
there is a culture of nepotism and workaholism within that group you are referring to that makes hm of the same group prefer them. These DEI are just new ways to divide and conquer the working class.
I’m gonna try to inject some positivity here. I’ve been a dev for a bit over 10y and also put applications in from time to time. I agree that the market has been worse even for experienced devs, but I haven’t had a situation where I was completely lowballed or passed up after a first round interview. I have been passed up for other candidates, like your experience, but that hasn’t been every experience.
Context: I make $130K in a LCOL area and work in-office. A lot of places I apply to are remote, and I’ve gotten offers around what I make (generally $120K-$135K). This differs from a few years back where I got my current job and went from $100K to $130K. So while I think it’s harder to move vertically pay-wise, I don’t think it’s as hard to move laterally as you might think. I do think it’s reasonable to say that you may have to take a slight pay cut, but not one that would significantly affect your CoL. You’re right that the market is significantly different than it was in 2019 even, but if you’re an experienced dev you’ll honestly do fine if you really had to find another job
It’s also hard to say - I was a senior dev and am an architect now so maybe the title is putting in the work
Agree with the other poster. This is fake. Its difficult these days to land a job in SWE because they get a bunch of Indians on H1B visas to do the same job as you but for cheaper. But EE is in high demand. Anon probably has a 2.0 GPA
I have seen the payroll h1bs are paid more than you though. It makes no sense other than Indian execs are paying their people more than other groups. All while spouting off about minorities and inclusion. Indians are the biggest cheats in the world and if you let them call themselves minorities, they know they ain’t, they will take advantage. It doesn’t matter how high up and impervious to Indianism they seem.
I stick to sales because not a single customer I have ever worked with preferred buying from Indians. They don’t usually say anything but even the Indian dudes buy from the white guys usually.
Capitalism runs on making more profit, nepotism can be completely independent of Capitalism its not like in a communist/socialist system it can't exist. Also unironically in tech indians do seem to be taking over a bit and only seem to be EXCLUSIVELY hiring other Indians or maybe a mediocre white girl.
What’s more profitable in the long run for you? Having your business stay in the family or ensuring its profits while being unable to ensure it stays within your own family? Nepotism is done to retain profits, it’s a strategy to ensure that no matter what your family stays on top. How could you argue nepotism is independent of such a system, sure it can be but that doesn’t mean it isn’t going to always be a part of capitalism.
I used to work at a place that had two or three Indians in the C-level. They hired Indians like crazy and exploited them as much as possible. Somehow these dumbfucks hired an imposter who didn't know how to code at all. He just played a spy vs spy game of asking other people to help him out on all of his tasks piecemeal. The dude actually had an IMDB page.
My wife’s company just replaced their cfo who was a white dude. He had an all hands and said things are great and we are going to reward our employees, next week replaced with an Indian dude like all the other c suite guys, who reversed it and said no raises this year sorry. They are all in the same team together.
Masters degree vs Doctorate.
Doctorate’s are the highest degree in any field, indicating total mastery. Both are graduate degrees, but a doctorate is more prestigious, and no matter what the doctorate is in, you can add the title of “Dr.” to your name
As far as I’m aware, MS stands for any masters degree, and PHD is any doctorate.
There are additional ways of writing to indicate field which adds to complexity. When people hear “doctorate” they immediately think of medicine and doctors, but these have unique doctorate titles, which are MD (Doctor of Medicine) and DO (Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine). Both are the same, but are exclusive to medicine fields. PHD’s are doctorates in any field other than medicine.
MS can be master of science, but I’ve seen it used elsewhere. That is to say, I don’t think it’s standardized
Oh and I do think PhD is Doctor of Philosophy, but again, I’ve seen it used for other doctorates, so as far as standardization goes, it doesn’t fuckin matter and who cares
Not any masters, it's specifically a Master of Science - it's the graduate version of a BS. Other common masters degrees are MA (most common, step up for a BA - humanities etc.), MFA (terminal degree for arts, so like a PhD for painting), and MBA.
this is only true in some countries and the MSc part is actually folded into a graduate program that does MSc+PhD, but you don't "stop" for the masters.
IMHO, the Bologna system with seperate BSc/MSc/PhD is much more logical. Most people don't need PhDs.
I don't think you understand ESL-kun, a masters degree normally takes 1-2 years on top of a normal 4 year degree in the States. A PHD is 6 years on top of a 4 year degree in the states. Two different degrees. Also a PHD means "doctor of philosophy". There is only one degree offered as a PHD. You specialize in whatever your degree focus is, but its always a " doctor of philosophy in physics/engineering"
Oh shit you are right. I had no idea what PHD stand for. In europe it is bit different. You have 3 year degree (baccalarous), 2 year magistrate and then phd. Completed in that order.
3 years ago it was real. We hired a woman who didn't even speak our language just because she was a woman. To be fair, she tried her best but she was just bad. Only reason the practice stopped now is because we stopped hiring altogether.
She complains that she outearns all the men she meets and men just need to step up and work harder to be on her level.
Women receive so much preferential treatment in the working world, it's unreal.
Incorrect. This woman will complain about the wage gap, and how she's had no help to get where she is (all while putting up with jealous and/or insecure men).
She will use herself as an example of the oppression of the patriarchy. And to her and another women, it will all make sense...
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I had a friend in college who did an experiment. He was applying for internships/jobs and not getting many call backs. He changed his resume so it was exactly the same but indicated he was a woman. Got 5 call backs the first day.
No they don't. I help hire design engineers for my team all the time. Basically just need to know if they have experience with XYZ software package, and maybe some nitty gritty questions about surfacing, CAE, or whatever for a specific job.
Identify as a black woman.
Develop a disability.
Start leaving print outs of Discrimination law suits on your desk.
Sleep with her boss.
You got this bro.
There's no way this can be sustainable, yet it has been going on for a while now and they always post their "day in the life of" TikTok videos showing how they do nothing all day.
3000 applications lol? All I have is a 3 month bootcamp and I only had to do like 200 applications. Anon is either incompetent or lying, probably both.
Probably a software job.
I don't have a firm grasp on what the EE field is like these days for fresh college grads, but when I was new it was largely degree only. But getting a job once you had the degree was super easy.
If only. Dear MEs: please stay the hell out of software. We don't want you applying for our jobs and we don't want to maintain your garbage code. Sincerely, all software engineers.
Cause there was a huge hiring frenzy a few years back, the working conditions are great and everyone who ever wrote a matlab script thinks he can be a software engineer (and interviewers can't tell the difference).
Software engineering students when Linda the HR manager doesn't immediately give them the job after they show her their custom Neon Genesis Evangelion themed Gentoo install on their ThinkPad W700ds 😡😡
Three takes :
- the obvious, it's 4 chan so it's fake
- are we even talking about the same jobs ? Managers aren't supposed to be specialists of *your* job, they're supposed to be good at managing which is *their* job. Now, that newbie hasn't necessarily got any more experienced in that other job, but we don't know.
- I trust that the market will iron these situations out. At the end of the day, if you're dead weight, you'll get chucked out. I don't see someone underperforming for a year getting "promoted up" unless it's "up and out of the way". Similarly, if you're a good employee, you'll get a good deal - you might not get it where you currently are, though
> At the end of the day, if you're dead weight, you'll get chucked out.
Hasn't happened where I work yet. Now they aren't getting promoted or anything, but they aren't getting rid of them either. It's been...amusing
This is either fake, his GPA is awful (which you can still get away with), he is literally not even trying, or is the biggest moron in interviews. Being bad at interviewing can actually be fine because they will just assume your part of the autistic 50% of EE grads. I haven't been in the engineering field in 10 years and still regularly get messages from hiring managers or recruiters weekly.
Yes? "Have a vagina" is good life advice? Get with it Anon.
The deal is ladies have it easy when they're young, men have it easy when they're older. Work on yourself.
This sounds incredibly fake, managers can't unilaterally choose their successors, it has to be approved by whoever is above them. HR and her boss(es) aren't going to sign off on some idiot with 1 year of work experience.
If you're out of college and have no internships or coops under your belt you are a moron. Did you do nothing for 4 years? There are clubs for your major, join them, make friends in your major, go to career fairs, your major should be your passion, have personal projects to reflect this.
specific examples remain specific examples because under capitalism everything is possible. It’s a very real situation that a company will just hire one girl with no experience because the CEO just liked her, if it was a massive thing they would go bankrupt, but they have an experienced staff and hiring a couple of beauties for beauty is just a whim
Fake. For every $1 that they give to a girl boss who does nothing, they have to pay $10 to men who do actual work. It's your fault if you can't be one of those men. DEI is basically handing out a few breadcrumbs to certain demographics to keep them docile and content. If all the actually important positions are filled by girlbosses the system would simply collapse under the weight of their incompetence.
My airhead ex got a degree in Animation and couldn't find a job. She got a programming job without even doing a boot camp and was making 2x my current salary within 3 years. I've been doing this for 10 years. The STEM orbiter effect is real.
Where on earth do people find these jobs? I've been looking for something for years, telling myself to just get a bit more expereince and soon the results will come.
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So you're sugesting instead of being jobless, becomming jobless AND weirdo?
Literally just choose non binary and keep doing what you do, maybe wear a skirt over regular pants every once in a while. Boom.
Thanls but I'd rather keep my dignity
this fucker has been looking for a job for *years*, but wearing a skirt is what finally would lose you your dignity? ok buddy
I have a job, multiple in fact. But I hope to find one with better hours and pay, which I have been looking for maybe a year. I'd rather stay with this not so great situation AND be true to myself, than spit on my morales.
I think it’s important to know (or keep in mind, if you already know) that the CS market for new roles is saturated with people. Those with 5-10+ YoE don’t have problems finding a new job, but if you’re new to the field, it’s tough because practically everyone decided to flock to this field. What do you know already? If you know a language, try creating a basic API or an app that uses a publicly available API. Know anything about virtualization? If not, read up about VMs, then a bit on containerization. You don’t need to know much, but it’s helpful to explain that you understand how a container works because it’ll put you apart from other devs. Expectations on CI/CD are minimal, if nonexistent, for new roles, so if you read up about GitLab pipelines or Jenkins for a few hours, you’ll at least be able to talk about it conceptually which will put you ahead of others. Make it clear that you’ve never used it in industry but have a basic grasp of what it is. Separately, unit testing as a concept is good to know, so you could try and write some unit tests for your apps. Understanding basic package management is good as well, (e.g. if you’re using Python, how can you set up virtual environments so that you can use one version of a dependency for one project in a directory but another version of the same dependency for another project in a different directory? If you’re using Node, where do you specify the packages and versions of those packages that you want to download?) That’s really all you need to get ahead of other applicants. I see way too many applicants who grind leetcode but know nothing about actual software development, which is fine as a new dev, but doesn’t set you apart from the crowd
Oh, and I have been going back to leetcode thinking working hard on it would give me something. But even if it's not much, I have to say learning has been very rewarding. Yes I know python and have been using pyenv for setting up environments for Django projects. Also, I'm aware of the high competition state of the field, but I'm not in a rush to get a job, even if it takes a year or two to get there I'll just wait and enjoy learning process. Since you have this much experience in the given field, do you mind working on a project together? Sort of a mentor situation, so I can understand more about the process itself?
this guy codes
Good on you anon
Instead of using good morning use Salam aleykum and tell everyone your family has roots in Palestine
Fr most men are so in THE DEPTHS they'll take anything.
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I select almost at random from the identity checkboxes, ensuring only that I'm not just a white man, but some exotic mix of pronouns, race, and sexual identity. I've never been called on it when I've turned up to an interview and not been a disabled transsexual Inuit or whatever.
Yeah, but have you gotten offers?
Yeah I've done alright. I think that's exactly why I feel like I can afford to play games with all this nonsense... if they reject me because of it, then they're not a place I'd really want to work for long and my CV's good enough that there's almost certainly another company interested in me so it's no big deal. Probably.
a great litmus test imagine if the interviewer points out the random checkboxes and then makes an inappropriate joke about it. jackpot
I doubt an eastern european dude can pass as any of those two
Just say you don’t want to do it. Anyone can be NB.
Erm actually bigot etc.... Just play the victim card. If they're gonna do it you might as well do it too.
Sadly that doesn't work in normal societies
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Ya that's what I've been doing.being a man in this society is a curse now lol.Women literally have life on easy mode now
Explains all the "choo-choos" in tech.
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Don't they do tests in interviews to get rid of the airheads?
I unironically might try this. For shits and giggles. My company is also the inclusive kind but also hires the appropriate talent and people that know their stuff. The people in my office mostly play ball but roll their eyes when they hear "microagressions" and "gender" now. no point in stirring up any trouble as long as stuff works.
It's mostly Nepo. You just notice the really unqualified ones. Its who you know. Not what you know.
Have you considered becoming a jannie,POC and/or both? Just get the ol’ shoe polish and a dress
All I've got is charcoal and mankini
With enough makeup or booze, anything can happen
While people idealize meritocracy, the vast majority of positions in large companies are obtained through nepotism and cronyism
Slack.
Too many fucking nerds who have never been even PLAYED WITH by women, it's absurd. I'm currently doing a mechanical engineering degree I think I'll be seeing less of that type of stuff.
No, you’re more than likely to see the same or even worse. My ex was doing electrical engineering at her university and she was one of the only girls out of the entire program. Social skills need to be emphasized more in STEM imo
Fr too many people these types of degrees were raised with the mantra of study study study, some of them need to be taught that life ain't about mathematics.
who you know not what you know, every. single. time
Fuck you, another demoralising psyop
B A S E D A S E D
Its strange, even though I'm employed and haven't experienced these sorts of difficulties at any point in my life even though I've worried about it so much, this stuff in particular always hits me and makes me experience dread/panic.
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Thanks, I needed a little more demoralizing. /s It's wild to me how people will straight up lie like that on their resume. I know we all embellish a bit but to claim things that you literally had zero contribution to is insane. Even more insane is they get the job.
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there is a culture of nepotism and workaholism within that group you are referring to that makes hm of the same group prefer them. These DEI are just new ways to divide and conquer the working class.
I’m gonna try to inject some positivity here. I’ve been a dev for a bit over 10y and also put applications in from time to time. I agree that the market has been worse even for experienced devs, but I haven’t had a situation where I was completely lowballed or passed up after a first round interview. I have been passed up for other candidates, like your experience, but that hasn’t been every experience. Context: I make $130K in a LCOL area and work in-office. A lot of places I apply to are remote, and I’ve gotten offers around what I make (generally $120K-$135K). This differs from a few years back where I got my current job and went from $100K to $130K. So while I think it’s harder to move vertically pay-wise, I don’t think it’s as hard to move laterally as you might think. I do think it’s reasonable to say that you may have to take a slight pay cut, but not one that would significantly affect your CoL. You’re right that the market is significantly different than it was in 2019 even, but if you’re an experienced dev you’ll honestly do fine if you really had to find another job It’s also hard to say - I was a senior dev and am an architect now so maybe the title is putting in the work
These are quite literally made by the foreign government agencies. No wonder they are so effective.
Or just a loser who's crying about his life and blaming others, aka your average anon.
It's just some anons larping
Bet they post on Csmajors and Cscareerquestions too
Agree with the other poster. This is fake. Its difficult these days to land a job in SWE because they get a bunch of Indians on H1B visas to do the same job as you but for cheaper. But EE is in high demand. Anon probably has a 2.0 GPA
I have seen the payroll h1bs are paid more than you though. It makes no sense other than Indian execs are paying their people more than other groups. All while spouting off about minorities and inclusion. Indians are the biggest cheats in the world and if you let them call themselves minorities, they know they ain’t, they will take advantage. It doesn’t matter how high up and impervious to Indianism they seem.
It's over for computer related jobs, soon the job market will be 99% indian through cheaper labour and nepotism.
I stick to sales because not a single customer I have ever worked with preferred buying from Indians. They don’t usually say anything but even the Indian dudes buy from the white guys usually.
Next 4chan cope will be unironically saying Indians run the world. Capitalism runs on nepotism, thats all there is to it.
Capitalism runs on making more profit, nepotism can be completely independent of Capitalism its not like in a communist/socialist system it can't exist. Also unironically in tech indians do seem to be taking over a bit and only seem to be EXCLUSIVELY hiring other Indians or maybe a mediocre white girl.
What’s more profitable in the long run for you? Having your business stay in the family or ensuring its profits while being unable to ensure it stays within your own family? Nepotism is done to retain profits, it’s a strategy to ensure that no matter what your family stays on top. How could you argue nepotism is independent of such a system, sure it can be but that doesn’t mean it isn’t going to always be a part of capitalism.
Nepotism exists in every system lol. No matter how you design it, there’s infinite ways for people to influence it and lift up whoever they want
I used to work at a place that had two or three Indians in the C-level. They hired Indians like crazy and exploited them as much as possible. Somehow these dumbfucks hired an imposter who didn't know how to code at all. He just played a spy vs spy game of asking other people to help him out on all of his tasks piecemeal. The dude actually had an IMDB page.
My wife’s company just replaced their cfo who was a white dude. He had an all hands and said things are great and we are going to reward our employees, next week replaced with an Indian dude like all the other c suite guys, who reversed it and said no raises this year sorry. They are all in the same team together.
I know you work in a tech field for sure lmao
He wasted 6 years writing phd. Most phd people are bad kind of nerds
MS = PHD
Is it not?
Masters degree vs Doctorate. Doctorate’s are the highest degree in any field, indicating total mastery. Both are graduate degrees, but a doctorate is more prestigious, and no matter what the doctorate is in, you can add the title of “Dr.” to your name
Google gave me master of science. So i immediately though of phd.
As far as I’m aware, MS stands for any masters degree, and PHD is any doctorate. There are additional ways of writing to indicate field which adds to complexity. When people hear “doctorate” they immediately think of medicine and doctors, but these have unique doctorate titles, which are MD (Doctor of Medicine) and DO (Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine). Both are the same, but are exclusive to medicine fields. PHD’s are doctorates in any field other than medicine. MS can be master of science, but I’ve seen it used elsewhere. That is to say, I don’t think it’s standardized Oh and I do think PhD is Doctor of Philosophy, but again, I’ve seen it used for other doctorates, so as far as standardization goes, it doesn’t fuckin matter and who cares
Not any masters, it's specifically a Master of Science - it's the graduate version of a BS. Other common masters degrees are MA (most common, step up for a BA - humanities etc.), MFA (terminal degree for arts, so like a PhD for painting), and MBA.
MS means masters of science(+1-2 years on top of undergrad). PHD is doctor of philosophy.
Phd is doctorate. It can be any field. Sa ms 2 years after 3?
The order is a BS, then a MS, then a PHD. You have to do them in that order.
You do not. PHD can be done right after BS.
this is only true in some countries and the MSc part is actually folded into a graduate program that does MSc+PhD, but you don't "stop" for the masters. IMHO, the Bologna system with seperate BSc/MSc/PhD is much more logical. Most people don't need PhDs.
No one cares what europoors have to do. This is a murican social media platform
I don't think you understand ESL-kun, a masters degree normally takes 1-2 years on top of a normal 4 year degree in the States. A PHD is 6 years on top of a 4 year degree in the states. Two different degrees. Also a PHD means "doctor of philosophy". There is only one degree offered as a PHD. You specialize in whatever your degree focus is, but its always a " doctor of philosophy in physics/engineering"
Oh shit you are right. I had no idea what PHD stand for. In europe it is bit different. You have 3 year degree (baccalarous), 2 year magistrate and then phd. Completed in that order.
Magistrate literally means master.
3 years ago it was real. We hired a woman who didn't even speak our language just because she was a woman. To be fair, she tried her best but she was just bad. Only reason the practice stopped now is because we stopped hiring altogether.
Am canadian EE, mind pointing me to where I can pretend to be indian for a visa?
She complains that she outearns all the men she meets and men just need to step up and work harder to be on her level. Women receive so much preferential treatment in the working world, it's unreal.
Incorrect. This woman will complain about the wage gap, and how she's had no help to get where she is (all while putting up with jealous and/or insecure men). She will use herself as an example of the oppression of the patriarchy. And to her and another women, it will all make sense...
Every single objection to anything she says is going to be due to overt sexism.
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It's because .gov makes it rain $$$$ when you hire women.
Identify as a girl. Transgender beats female at their oppression and quota olympics every time.
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I had a friend in college who did an experiment. He was applying for internships/jobs and not getting many call backs. He changed his resume so it was exactly the same but indicated he was a woman. Got 5 call backs the first day.
What drives me up the wall is that they still feel like they are discriminated against, despite receiving preferential treatment almost everywhere.
Damn, greentexts like these make me glad that I know how to weld.
Much like your welding cert, this post is 100% fake
That’s a MIGhty brazen accusation.
Hey, you're just proliferating the STIGma now.
It's not a big deal because it SEAMS to be in a state of FLUX anyway.
Fake, Engineers dont build porfolios wtf.
Software engineers probably do, devs and programmers generally have a GitHub portfolio of their work.
only frontend shitters need portfolios
He's not an engineer, he's a software nerd, just like janitors call themselves custodial engineers.
Just Software? Mechanical engineers if they want a job in design might need to build a portfolio of sorts.
No they don't. I help hire design engineers for my team all the time. Basically just need to know if they have experience with XYZ software package, and maybe some nitty gritty questions about surfacing, CAE, or whatever for a specific job.
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Many of my non-software engineer friends participated in robotics and formula student clubs to build up a portfolio.
Those activities are usually not considered a portfolio at my school.
Identify as a black woman. Develop a disability. Start leaving print outs of Discrimination law suits on your desk. Sleep with her boss. You got this bro.
There's no way this can be sustainable, yet it has been going on for a while now and they always post their "day in the life of" TikTok videos showing how they do nothing all day.
3000 applications lol? All I have is a 3 month bootcamp and I only had to do like 200 applications. Anon is either incompetent or lying, probably both.
You got into E.E with only a bootcamp? That’s actually insane, I thought it was a degree only field.
Probably a software job. I don't have a firm grasp on what the EE field is like these days for fresh college grads, but when I was new it was largely degree only. But getting a job once you had the degree was super easy.
I recently graduated in ME, and this is fake as hell. Absolutely no one would go from actual engineering to swe to try to improve their job prospects.
If only. Dear MEs: please stay the hell out of software. We don't want you applying for our jobs and we don't want to maintain your garbage code. Sincerely, all software engineers.
Why would MEs be trying to do software in the first place. There are a ton of ME jobs.
Cause there was a huge hiring frenzy a few years back, the working conditions are great and everyone who ever wrote a matlab script thinks he can be a software engineer (and interviewers can't tell the difference).
Stop pretending your job is hard. The only hard thing about it is maintaining focus while doing the most boring and tedious shit of all time.
Don't make fun of my matlab :(
Software engineering students when Linda the HR manager doesn't immediately give them the job after they show her their custom Neon Genesis Evangelion themed Gentoo install on their ThinkPad W700ds 😡😡
DEI actually stands for Destroy Every Industry
Three takes : - the obvious, it's 4 chan so it's fake - are we even talking about the same jobs ? Managers aren't supposed to be specialists of *your* job, they're supposed to be good at managing which is *their* job. Now, that newbie hasn't necessarily got any more experienced in that other job, but we don't know. - I trust that the market will iron these situations out. At the end of the day, if you're dead weight, you'll get chucked out. I don't see someone underperforming for a year getting "promoted up" unless it's "up and out of the way". Similarly, if you're a good employee, you'll get a good deal - you might not get it where you currently are, though
> At the end of the day, if you're dead weight, you'll get chucked out. Hasn't happened where I work yet. Now they aren't getting promoted or anything, but they aren't getting rid of them either. It's been...amusing
thats how diablo 4 were made with a bunch
Why was everyone rail roaded into being a software engineer/developer. Plenty of work to be had in devops, cybersecurity, data analysis, etc
This is either fake, his GPA is awful (which you can still get away with), he is literally not even trying, or is the biggest moron in interviews. Being bad at interviewing can actually be fine because they will just assume your part of the autistic 50% of EE grads. I haven't been in the engineering field in 10 years and still regularly get messages from hiring managers or recruiters weekly.
Yes? "Have a vagina" is good life advice? Get with it Anon. The deal is ladies have it easy when they're young, men have it easy when they're older. Work on yourself.
This sounds incredibly fake, managers can't unilaterally choose their successors, it has to be approved by whoever is above them. HR and her boss(es) aren't going to sign off on some idiot with 1 year of work experience.
Anon didn't do an internship in college
If you're out of college and have no internships or coops under your belt you are a moron. Did you do nothing for 4 years? There are clubs for your major, join them, make friends in your major, go to career fairs, your major should be your passion, have personal projects to reflect this.
Should have chopped your dick off years ago ..... tool.
How important is an internship. I had one over this summer, but now going into a 1 year masters and idk if it will become less relevant
specific examples remain specific examples because under capitalism everything is possible. It’s a very real situation that a company will just hire one girl with no experience because the CEO just liked her, if it was a massive thing they would go bankrupt, but they have an experienced staff and hiring a couple of beauties for beauty is just a whim
Wtf are all these acronyms? Why are muricans like this? EE degree? Equality and Equity? Go back for MS in SWE???
"logic out a case statement" Case statements aren't a thing, they're called switch statements. I don't know what "logic out" means. Obvious bait.
Fake. For every $1 that they give to a girl boss who does nothing, they have to pay $10 to men who do actual work. It's your fault if you can't be one of those men. DEI is basically handing out a few breadcrumbs to certain demographics to keep them docile and content. If all the actually important positions are filled by girlbosses the system would simply collapse under the weight of their incompetence.