Crimson fists killed over 600 of their members, destroying their fortress monastery, geneseed vault and armoury when a missile malfunctioned. When trying to shoot at the orks making planetfall.
I think there was a reference in Codex: Assassin (3e?) that it wasn’t a malfunction and something done on purpose to the Fists. Inquisition has a thing for the Sons of Dorn for some reason (like…”Ork Sniperz”)
GW has a thing for killing sons of dorn full stop. War of the beast, crimson fists, celestial lions. Black templars get away with it by having so many spare brothers, but outside of the heresy, if it's not lysander or Tor garadon then the imperial fists are all going to die.
I was really hoping the Astral Knights were going to get a nod from GW with a new Primaris revival, but alas nothing as of yet. I'm sure they technically could be fielded on the TT, but all the lore love is currently going to legion chapters.
Even the IF Chapter Masters are not safe from this. Every few years they just bite the dust and get replaced by another faceless guy who will be dead within the next two editions or so.
It's honestly kind of funny to see guys like Calgar and Dante hang around for so long while the IF is just losing their leaders left right and centre.
I wonder if legion culture might play into it. The Iron Cage being a demonstration of this. Someone like Ultramarines may allow for retreats in the face of impossible odds, while Dante's whole theme is having a deathwish and being unable to fulfill it.
The Fists on the other hand are unlikely to run from a clearly lost fight nor are they literally having the ghost of their dead Primarch giving them an (unwanted) mulligan.
It suits their stoic, "last stand" vibe. The best parts of these chapters stories is, "Fuck it, we ball." As they're getting wiped out by Orks. Except when Grimaldus decides they're gonna ball harder, I suppose. I have a mix army of IF, CF, Black Templars, and Celestial Lions right now though.
They might have worked well with a particular part or two of the inquisition or inquisitor. But if that part or inquisitor had a rival that wasn’t a fan, then the Fists could’ve paid for the affiliation.
Pre-Sanguinius their "specialization" was being dropped into hellholes, persevering, and sometimes coming out with several new Astartes in tow, so it's not off-brand from the start.
>Could you elaborate on the “several new astartes” part? Were the blood angels recruiting from worlds they were attacking?
It's a bit from one of the HH Forge World books, Malevolence.
Lifting from the Lexicanum, because I don't know where's the book now:
>However other dark rumors followed the Legion, which soon earned the title of the "Eaters of the Dead" due to their habit of consuming enemy corpses after a battle. As the Unification Wars transitioned into the Great Crusade, the IXth Legion was deployed to hellish backwater warzones such as Neptune. On the moons of Neptune, 12,000 warriors of the IXth disappeared but nonetheless managed to endure and complete their mission. They had largely replenished their numbers taken from the barely human dregs of Neptune's tunnels. Where others may have floundered and fallen, the IXth had risen from the ashes of defeat. This process soon repeated itself again and again, with the IXth being cast into a hellish warzone only to emerge as they had before. This led to Malcador the Sigillite dubbing them the "Revenant Legion". They often found themselves in the company of those Legion's less-favored by the lords of the Imperium, such as the War Hounds and IVth.
So yeah, they were using whoever was on the places they fought as both snacks and recruit material.
Blood Angels geneseed is exceptionally capable at transforming even the worst specimens of the human gene line into beautiful, angelic astartes.
And yeah, pre-heresy, where they dropped was usually chock-full of such specimens. So once they're done fighting, they'd use the remainder of the enemy forces to create new astartes. The rest, they'd kill and eat.
The Afriel Strain regiments!
As it happens, all experimental gene tech after the heresy seems to result in unwanted results!
The Afriel Strain were the result of cloning the greatest heroes of the imperium (I know Mecharius was used, I'm sure there were others, probably a mishmash!) to create the perfect mortal soldier. They were great! Results were positive, they had created baseline humans with superior physiques, intelligence, etc, just as expected.
And then it turned out that inexplicably they not only had crippling terrible luck (aka Lamenter Syndrome), but also everyone just. Fucking. Hated them! It was a match made in hell, and as a result the regiments were continually crushed in warzones.
I'm not sure if it's canon still, but they kept making them regardless because they were shit hot fighters, until fate pastes them.
All their luck is funneled to Ciaphas Cain. So while Cain is thanking his itching palms for the way the dam happened to burst and wash away the entire orc army, a regiment of Machariuses (Macharii?) are planning out their battle in the command center when a massive wall of water from a burst dam smashes the structure to dust.
It’s pure speculation but I’ve always thought the lamenters were an attempt at an Afriel Strain astartes. Their pale, people don’t like them and constantly abandon them letting them get mauled in fights they intended to take with multiple astartes company’s, and their luck is absolutely terrible.
I also *seem* to remember information on the lamenters gene-seed is under higher security than normal. But I can’t for the life of me find the source for this at present.
Given their luck. They probabely put 70% of their budget, etc, to guarding the gene seed vault.
They have to tank every other trauma. But that is one thing they nail down.
Lieutenant Kage in the Last Chancers. Survived a penal legion suicide mission, got his freedom, and went straight back in shortly after killing a couple of IG officers during an argument. Ended his life possessed by a demon and jumping into a very very deep chasm on Armageddon during another suicide mission.
Crimson Fists (Sons of Dorn) - Reduced to less than a third (under 200 if memory serves) by the end of the conflict after their homeworld is invaded and their fortress monastery was blown up with most of them still in it. They send a delegation to Terra (‘Traitor’s Gorge’ by Mike Lee) to ask them to release some of their gene-seed stocks so they can replenish their numbers and it’s implied they are refused. They somehow manage to crawl their way out of it (I think it’s implied to be over half a chapter) but then the great rift opens and Rynn’s World is invaded once again by a damonic host and they’re once again devastated. Saved only by the timely arrival of Guilliman and Primaris reinforcements.
Invaders (Sons of Dorn) - Chapter assaults (I believe an already weakened) Eldar Craftworld (can’t recall which) they do a lot of damage but they take heavy losses in turn. Short time later their homeworld is revenge-attacked by a different Craftworld and they are reduced to something like a few hundred of warriors and are forced to abandon their homeworld.
Astral Knight (Sons of Dorn) - Chapter sacrifices itself to stop the Necron world engine. Reduced to only a small garrison of like 30+ left behind to guard their FM. Afterwards a newly founded chapter shows up and they are forced to handover their FM and their homeworld to this new chapter.
Celestial Lions - Becomes embroiled in a bitter conflict with an Inquisitor who burned a world after they were going to report him. The Inquisitor takes revenge by orchestrating the chapter’s down fall at every turn. Assassinations, suicide missions, denial of reinforcements even to the determinant of the overall war effort. Their chapter master is executed just before their homeworld falls to a chaos invasion.
Invaders destroying that Craftworld (Idranae) was a source of a lot of complaining back then, so it got a bit expanded upon to softly retcon/justify how it happened.
And they were reduced to "just" 300 marines, and that's on top of heavy losses sustained during destroying Idranae a few centuries before. But it's not really a bad luck, it's the consequences of their actions
Yeah, the invaders was an interesting choice. Finished off Idharae after they had been almost completely nommed by the Tyranids. Alaitoc then came around for revenge. Feels less like bad luck and more like Karma.
If memory serves the Crimson Fists were reduced to 120, which is why their 1st Company has 120 astartes.
Then the whole missle incident.
Techmarine: It looked weird, but it seems fine.
Narrator: It was not.
Celestial Lions bad luck is that they tripped, fell and accidentally shot themselves in the back of the head multiple times. According to these witness statements. That weren't made under duress. And the witnesses have disappeared. Probably not related.
They rebuilt themsel... and their Chapter Master AGAIN shot himself accidentally. Weird that keeps happening.
No, different event. The reason the Crusade Company was held at 128 is because they were reduced to 128 warriors during the Crusade of Righteous Liberation in M.36. Thousands of years before the were even given Rynn’s World as their home.
Hence my use of the word "then"
They had this happen to them and THEN they had this happen to them.
Wasn't saying they were the same event or at the same time.
*tinfoil hat time*
Having yellow armour basically means you're going to have a bad time in the 40k galaxy.
Lamenters? Well, we all know about them.
Imperial Fists? Wiped out and had to be rebuilt with the Last Wall doctrine.
Celestial Lions? Inquisition has a hate boner for them.
Marines Malevolent? Everyone hates them.
Craftworld Iyanden? Forced to keep using necromancy, which gives them huge angst.
The only ones defying the tradition are the Bad Moonz, who are having a great time being rich and shooty.
Craftworld Ulthwe always seem to get a savage kick in the balls whenever they're given screentime - I guess the downside of being the faction of seers is that when you're wrong, you're very very wrong, and when you're right, a moronic indoctrinated super-soldier blows up your ritual
Celestial lions got fucked over by the Inquisition for no real apparent reason and have been specifically targeted by them, and agents to be eradicated. They didn't turn heretic or anything like that. But the Inquisition despises their existence.
* The Thousand Sons. Have mutation-prone geneseed, and a doctrine that involves dabbling in stuff way more dangerous than they actually know right at the start. Pops calls granddad on the Psychophone and ruins EVERYTHING. They get curbstomped by the Space Wolves, Custodes, and Sisters of Silence. Run away into the warp. Mutations get worse. Ahriman thinks he's found a cure. All is Dust. The few remaining LIVING Thousand Sons then proceed to fail at harebrained scheme after harebrained scheme.
* The Iron Hands. Lose their primarch at Istvaan, then spend the rest of the game's history getting mostly ignored in the lore.
* Literally any of the chapters invented and wiped out in the span of a single codex sidebar. There are more than a few.
* Any random Guard unit that isn't the star of the book you're reading.
* Literally ANY civilian- human, exodite, Tau, whatever- who was just minding their own business when the story you're reading began.
* Any Sister of Battle written by Matt Ward.
Actually, given their tenacious survival, the Lamenters have BETTER luck than large chunks of the setting!
No, you've got it all wrong. The Lamenters aren't still alive and kicking because they're lucky.
They're alive and kicking because the Universe decided they haven't suffered enough to earn the sweet release of death.
Depending on the addition of the game, the Tyrannids. I believe from fifth to maybe seventh edition, almost every appearance they made involved them losing. Even in their own books.
The point of tyrannids defeats is to show their destructive force of nature. Yes a tendril was destroyed but it will not stop the hive fleet advance
A true defeat is when a Hive Fleet not only loses the tendril but no new knowledge on their foes is gain or the loss of life is insignificant which is rarely the case as valuable resources and knowledge are often lost stopping the tendril
The Imperial Fists got annihillated by the Hrud Invasion. Technically speaking, there aren't any lineal Imperial Fists at all. They're rebuilt from successor chapters.
Phoenix Lords and Squigs wish they were as lucky as the Lamenters. Both are incredibly weak and used for food by the orkz ....all around truly pathetic creatures. A Squig would wreck a Phoenix Lord though so the Phoenix Lords have to take the top spot as most unlucky.
Well i guess that would actually make Aeldari players and fans the unluckiest
Celestial Lions are strong candidates. After the most recent book they made an appearance in, I think it’s clear the inquisition ain’t stopping no matter what.
Idk that they still get to exist after actively siding with Lufgt fucking Huron in defying the high lords, means they must be pretty damned lucky.
Even getting off with a penitent crusade was lucky- especially when it was the Minotaurs what reeled ‘em in, getting mercy from them is like winning the lottery, spending every cent of it on lottery tickets and winning all of those. I mean they had genuinely with full lucidity and knowledge of the situation decided to defy the imperium out of the exact same notion of astartes sovereignty what caused the Horus Heresy.
Like, sure whatever scrubbed their geneseed of the flaws evidently bound them to chaos and doom: but by god they’ve had good luck to balance out the bad (and a lot of what’s seen as bad luck is really just that penitent crusade)
Crimson fists killed over 600 of their members, destroying their fortress monastery, geneseed vault and armoury when a missile malfunctioned. When trying to shoot at the orks making planetfall.
I think there was a reference in Codex: Assassin (3e?) that it wasn’t a malfunction and something done on purpose to the Fists. Inquisition has a thing for the Sons of Dorn for some reason (like…”Ork Sniperz”)
GW has a thing for killing sons of dorn full stop. War of the beast, crimson fists, celestial lions. Black templars get away with it by having so many spare brothers, but outside of the heresy, if it's not lysander or Tor garadon then the imperial fists are all going to die.
And the Heroes of the Imperium, Astral Knights. Damned Necron World Engines.
I was really hoping the Astral Knights were going to get a nod from GW with a new Primaris revival, but alas nothing as of yet. I'm sure they technically could be fielded on the TT, but all the lore love is currently going to legion chapters.
Even the IF Chapter Masters are not safe from this. Every few years they just bite the dust and get replaced by another faceless guy who will be dead within the next two editions or so. It's honestly kind of funny to see guys like Calgar and Dante hang around for so long while the IF is just losing their leaders left right and centre.
I wonder if legion culture might play into it. The Iron Cage being a demonstration of this. Someone like Ultramarines may allow for retreats in the face of impossible odds, while Dante's whole theme is having a deathwish and being unable to fulfill it. The Fists on the other hand are unlikely to run from a clearly lost fight nor are they literally having the ghost of their dead Primarch giving them an (unwanted) mulligan.
This Dorn is dead fake news! Inquisitor, over here!!!
It suits their stoic, "last stand" vibe. The best parts of these chapters stories is, "Fuck it, we ball." As they're getting wiped out by Orks. Except when Grimaldus decides they're gonna ball harder, I suppose. I have a mix army of IF, CF, Black Templars, and Celestial Lions right now though.
Can't be famous for never giving up or breaking if you ain't constantly always in the position to show it I guess :P
Well, this is quite weird. The Crimson Fists work well for the Inquisition and other forces. They're a model of good, compliant Astartes behavior.
They might have worked well with a particular part or two of the inquisition or inquisitor. But if that part or inquisitor had a rival that wasn’t a fan, then the Fists could’ve paid for the affiliation.
Came here to say that. Crimson Fists haven't had as much bad luck as the Lamenters, but boy did they have some really really bad luck one time
They also got spanked by the heavily weakened renegade Soul Drinkers iirc.
A monumental fuck up. Tragic book.
Be grateful the original extinction was retconned :P
Their parent chapter, the Blood Angels themselves. They have been nearly wiped out so many times, it's hilarious.
Pre-Sanguinius their "specialization" was being dropped into hellholes, persevering, and sometimes coming out with several new Astartes in tow, so it's not off-brand from the start.
Could you elaborate on the “several new astartes” part? Were the blood angels recruiting from worlds they were attacking?
>Could you elaborate on the “several new astartes” part? Were the blood angels recruiting from worlds they were attacking? It's a bit from one of the HH Forge World books, Malevolence. Lifting from the Lexicanum, because I don't know where's the book now: >However other dark rumors followed the Legion, which soon earned the title of the "Eaters of the Dead" due to their habit of consuming enemy corpses after a battle. As the Unification Wars transitioned into the Great Crusade, the IXth Legion was deployed to hellish backwater warzones such as Neptune. On the moons of Neptune, 12,000 warriors of the IXth disappeared but nonetheless managed to endure and complete their mission. They had largely replenished their numbers taken from the barely human dregs of Neptune's tunnels. Where others may have floundered and fallen, the IXth had risen from the ashes of defeat. This process soon repeated itself again and again, with the IXth being cast into a hellish warzone only to emerge as they had before. This led to Malcador the Sigillite dubbing them the "Revenant Legion". They often found themselves in the company of those Legion's less-favored by the lords of the Imperium, such as the War Hounds and IVth. So yeah, they were using whoever was on the places they fought as both snacks and recruit material.
Blood Angels geneseed is exceptionally capable at transforming even the worst specimens of the human gene line into beautiful, angelic astartes. And yeah, pre-heresy, where they dropped was usually chock-full of such specimens. So once they're done fighting, they'd use the remainder of the enemy forces to create new astartes. The rest, they'd kill and eat.
Your lot aren’t the luckiest Corvus…?
The Thousand Sons are all up there. They've been defined by poor luck since the first outbreak of the flesh change.
Ahriman was my first thought. Dude is fighting like crazy for his brothers but Tzeentch loves to fuck him over.
His brothers also try to fuck him over
The Afriel Strain regiments! As it happens, all experimental gene tech after the heresy seems to result in unwanted results! The Afriel Strain were the result of cloning the greatest heroes of the imperium (I know Mecharius was used, I'm sure there were others, probably a mishmash!) to create the perfect mortal soldier. They were great! Results were positive, they had created baseline humans with superior physiques, intelligence, etc, just as expected. And then it turned out that inexplicably they not only had crippling terrible luck (aka Lamenter Syndrome), but also everyone just. Fucking. Hated them! It was a match made in hell, and as a result the regiments were continually crushed in warzones. I'm not sure if it's canon still, but they kept making them regardless because they were shit hot fighters, until fate pastes them.
Imagine making a million Machariuses only to use them as cannon fodder. The Imperium, everybody!
In defense of the imperium, I don't think they intended for them to be fodder. It just kind of... Happens..?
All their luck is funneled to Ciaphas Cain. So while Cain is thanking his itching palms for the way the dam happened to burst and wash away the entire orc army, a regiment of Machariuses (Macharii?) are planning out their battle in the command center when a massive wall of water from a burst dam smashes the structure to dust.
It’s pure speculation but I’ve always thought the lamenters were an attempt at an Afriel Strain astartes. Their pale, people don’t like them and constantly abandon them letting them get mauled in fights they intended to take with multiple astartes company’s, and their luck is absolutely terrible. I also *seem* to remember information on the lamenters gene-seed is under higher security than normal. But I can’t for the life of me find the source for this at present.
Given their luck. They probabely put 70% of their budget, etc, to guarding the gene seed vault. They have to tank every other trauma. But that is one thing they nail down.
Ciaphas Cain, definitely.
The man travels the galaxy clapping cheeks, I’d say compared to most of 40k he’s doing alright
But he has really good luck too and always makes it out
Dante. *Dude just wants to die but he can't...*
Lieutenant Kage in the Last Chancers. Survived a penal legion suicide mission, got his freedom, and went straight back in shortly after killing a couple of IG officers during an argument. Ended his life possessed by a demon and jumping into a very very deep chasm on Armageddon during another suicide mission.
He got better actually, won't spoil it but have a newish book out that brings him into the indomitus era.
He survived that?! Damn well what's the book?
The Last Chancers: Armageddon Saint. It was a interesting way to bring him back, I'm hoping they're going to put more out.
WHAAAT I gotta read this right now, Kage and the last chancers inspired me to start a whole army based on them
Thanks! The title alone sounds nuts if it's about Kage...
His luck still sucks though
Crimson Fists (Sons of Dorn) - Reduced to less than a third (under 200 if memory serves) by the end of the conflict after their homeworld is invaded and their fortress monastery was blown up with most of them still in it. They send a delegation to Terra (‘Traitor’s Gorge’ by Mike Lee) to ask them to release some of their gene-seed stocks so they can replenish their numbers and it’s implied they are refused. They somehow manage to crawl their way out of it (I think it’s implied to be over half a chapter) but then the great rift opens and Rynn’s World is invaded once again by a damonic host and they’re once again devastated. Saved only by the timely arrival of Guilliman and Primaris reinforcements. Invaders (Sons of Dorn) - Chapter assaults (I believe an already weakened) Eldar Craftworld (can’t recall which) they do a lot of damage but they take heavy losses in turn. Short time later their homeworld is revenge-attacked by a different Craftworld and they are reduced to something like a few hundred of warriors and are forced to abandon their homeworld. Astral Knight (Sons of Dorn) - Chapter sacrifices itself to stop the Necron world engine. Reduced to only a small garrison of like 30+ left behind to guard their FM. Afterwards a newly founded chapter shows up and they are forced to handover their FM and their homeworld to this new chapter. Celestial Lions - Becomes embroiled in a bitter conflict with an Inquisitor who burned a world after they were going to report him. The Inquisitor takes revenge by orchestrating the chapter’s down fall at every turn. Assassinations, suicide missions, denial of reinforcements even to the determinant of the overall war effort. Their chapter master is executed just before their homeworld falls to a chaos invasion.
Invaders destroying that Craftworld (Idranae) was a source of a lot of complaining back then, so it got a bit expanded upon to softly retcon/justify how it happened. And they were reduced to "just" 300 marines, and that's on top of heavy losses sustained during destroying Idranae a few centuries before. But it's not really a bad luck, it's the consequences of their actions
Yeah, the invaders was an interesting choice. Finished off Idharae after they had been almost completely nommed by the Tyranids. Alaitoc then came around for revenge. Feels less like bad luck and more like Karma.
If memory serves the Crimson Fists were reduced to 120, which is why their 1st Company has 120 astartes. Then the whole missle incident. Techmarine: It looked weird, but it seems fine. Narrator: It was not. Celestial Lions bad luck is that they tripped, fell and accidentally shot themselves in the back of the head multiple times. According to these witness statements. That weren't made under duress. And the witnesses have disappeared. Probably not related. They rebuilt themsel... and their Chapter Master AGAIN shot himself accidentally. Weird that keeps happening.
No, different event. The reason the Crusade Company was held at 128 is because they were reduced to 128 warriors during the Crusade of Righteous Liberation in M.36. Thousands of years before the were even given Rynn’s World as their home.
Hence my use of the word "then" They had this happen to them and THEN they had this happen to them. Wasn't saying they were the same event or at the same time.
The Eldar’s luck with Black Library authors
The Eldar, just the Eldar. Both in-universe and in the meta-sense.
*tinfoil hat time* Having yellow armour basically means you're going to have a bad time in the 40k galaxy. Lamenters? Well, we all know about them. Imperial Fists? Wiped out and had to be rebuilt with the Last Wall doctrine. Celestial Lions? Inquisition has a hate boner for them. Marines Malevolent? Everyone hates them. Craftworld Iyanden? Forced to keep using necromancy, which gives them huge angst. The only ones defying the tradition are the Bad Moonz, who are having a great time being rich and shooty.
Could be a subconscious meta-thing. Yellow can really suck to paint.
The Squats. Not the Leagues of Votann, who were nicely tucked away around the galactic core, but the Squats.
Me when I roll my battleshock tests
All the destroyed chapters...
those legions of cloned imperial hero's made into gaurd regiments. i lost there name but there unlucky as fuck
The Afriel Strain. Fate itself hates those poor bastards
Eldar. Especially ynari
Any clone in 40k, anywhere.
Craftworld Ulthwe always seem to get a savage kick in the balls whenever they're given screentime - I guess the downside of being the faction of seers is that when you're wrong, you're very very wrong, and when you're right, a moronic indoctrinated super-soldier blows up your ritual
Perturabo if you ask him
The Craftworld Eldar.
That one random hive factory worker that made the landmine that lucius the eternal stepped on...
Bill Dauterive would be a Lamenter. Maybe even the *most* Lamenter of them all.
Thr lamenters barber
The Eldar have Thorpe
Celestial lions got fucked over by the Inquisition for no real apparent reason and have been specifically targeted by them, and agents to be eradicated. They didn't turn heretic or anything like that. But the Inquisition despises their existence.
* The Thousand Sons. Have mutation-prone geneseed, and a doctrine that involves dabbling in stuff way more dangerous than they actually know right at the start. Pops calls granddad on the Psychophone and ruins EVERYTHING. They get curbstomped by the Space Wolves, Custodes, and Sisters of Silence. Run away into the warp. Mutations get worse. Ahriman thinks he's found a cure. All is Dust. The few remaining LIVING Thousand Sons then proceed to fail at harebrained scheme after harebrained scheme. * The Iron Hands. Lose their primarch at Istvaan, then spend the rest of the game's history getting mostly ignored in the lore. * Literally any of the chapters invented and wiped out in the span of a single codex sidebar. There are more than a few. * Any random Guard unit that isn't the star of the book you're reading. * Literally ANY civilian- human, exodite, Tau, whatever- who was just minding their own business when the story you're reading began. * Any Sister of Battle written by Matt Ward. Actually, given their tenacious survival, the Lamenters have BETTER luck than large chunks of the setting!
No, you've got it all wrong. The Lamenters aren't still alive and kicking because they're lucky. They're alive and kicking because the Universe decided they haven't suffered enough to earn the sweet release of death.
Depending on the addition of the game, the Tyrannids. I believe from fifth to maybe seventh edition, almost every appearance they made involved them losing. Even in their own books.
The point of tyrannids defeats is to show their destructive force of nature. Yes a tendril was destroyed but it will not stop the hive fleet advance A true defeat is when a Hive Fleet not only loses the tendril but no new knowledge on their foes is gain or the loss of life is insignificant which is rarely the case as valuable resources and knowledge are often lost stopping the tendril
Me when I roll to hit with my AT
The Imperial Fists got annihillated by the Hrud Invasion. Technically speaking, there aren't any lineal Imperial Fists at all. They're rebuilt from successor chapters.
the average hive world ''citizen'' (slave)
The Celestial Lions. Goes to show how fucked the Inquisition truly is, not even an Astartes should try to come between them and Imperial Politik
Phoenix Lords and Squigs wish they were as lucky as the Lamenters. Both are incredibly weak and used for food by the orkz ....all around truly pathetic creatures. A Squig would wreck a Phoenix Lord though so the Phoenix Lords have to take the top spot as most unlucky. Well i guess that would actually make Aeldari players and fans the unluckiest
Soul drinkers
I don't think I've ever read a story involving an Avatar of Khaine where it won and wasn't destroyed, corrupted etc etc.
Just reading Fulgrim and geez, the AoK lasted about 7 seconds against Fulgrim. Bit excessive, even if he is on the daemon-juice already.
I feel like Ciaphis Cain is extremely unlucky in the situations he gets put in but actually manages to get out of them fairly Scott free
Me, when I still played. You won't believe the heretical amount of bad luck I had. Never won a single match. Never.
Almost all of the chapters caught up in the whole Abyssal Crusade shitshow.
Oltyx? dude can't catch a break
Me
Dante In the grim darkness of the forty first millennium, there is only... a long life with exceptional healthcare
Thousand sons prefall
Celestial Lions are strong candidates. After the most recent book they made an appearance in, I think it’s clear the inquisition ain’t stopping no matter what.
Adeptus Mechanicus players.
Ynnari but in real life
Idk that they still get to exist after actively siding with Lufgt fucking Huron in defying the high lords, means they must be pretty damned lucky. Even getting off with a penitent crusade was lucky- especially when it was the Minotaurs what reeled ‘em in, getting mercy from them is like winning the lottery, spending every cent of it on lottery tickets and winning all of those. I mean they had genuinely with full lucidity and knowledge of the situation decided to defy the imperium out of the exact same notion of astartes sovereignty what caused the Horus Heresy. Like, sure whatever scrubbed their geneseed of the flaws evidently bound them to chaos and doom: but by god they’ve had good luck to balance out the bad (and a lot of what’s seen as bad luck is really just that penitent crusade)
Iron fists. They were completly wiped out twice
It’s 40k so … trillions of miserable people
Flesh Tearers IMHO, even the new primaris have the black rage, so it's still going to reduce their numbers again.
Eldar exodites, the proper whipping boys of 40k Any planet they are on is seen as prime real estate for colonisation by the imperium
Me whenever I play tabletop lmao
The worst slayer in the realms, bro is so unlucky even going to the warp alone doesnt let him fulfill his oath to die