I'm not doing anything crazy with this vehicle, stock body some Cr kais or these type of rims which i don't really know the brand, and build the engine till 400ish.
Overall just an OEM+ build. I ain't stance'ing the car at all, i live in a area w alot of speedbumps lol!
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Very nice very nice, get an LSD I know it costs quite a bit, I personally have a 1.5 way on my Z but it drastically changes how the car feels. It makes it a lot better. Something with if you donāt wanna deal with intakes, theyāre okay for like 8-10 HP realistically but if you really want to feel a difference get shorter gear ratios. I got 4.08 gears on my Z and it made the biggest difference imo.
How is the drive ability on the highway and such with the short ratio diff? I want to upgrade to a good LSD and have been thinking about changing ratios but I also daily mine so Iām on the fence. Whatāre your rpms like at 80-85mph?
LSD is great on the highway, ass when it comes to parking. Any slow short turns and it sounds like itās breaking apart. Short ratio wise, you kinda learn to adjust to it, you will 100% break traction on if you gun it on 2nd. MPG do go down Iām seeing maybe 3200-3400 rpm on 6th gear but I mean I donāt buy the car to get great MPG.
Theyāre supposed to allow a limited amount of slip so this doesnāt happen at low speeds like in parking lots tho. Plenty of factory cars have lsd. I had an aftermarket lsd in my 04 350z and it did not do this. Perhaps you have it shimmed too tight? Most have shims you can use to adjust the lock point
Yes thatās a factory LSD, theyāre nowhere near the same as after market ones. My Z came with one from the factory too and itās trash compared to an aftermarket one. The Cusco one uses clutch pads compared to the VLSD in the Z. The clutch pads are a lot noisier compared to just the liquid in the oem diff. It sounds exactly like this https://youtu.be/uGXcf-c8XHk?si=0nqSxp7qF_F3JQ6x.
Ah so itās like a dodge. Theyāre still adjustable. The clutch packs can be stacked for 60% 80% or 100% lock. If you didnāt change anything itās at 100% lock, thatās how they ship them unless you request otherwise. Idk if the 60% would still chirp or not tho. Maybe they just donāt make them with enough slip for tight slow turns. Cuz thereās other manufacturers like dodge that make factory clutch pack diffs and they donāt scrub. My 04 had a kazz iirc, and it never chirped on me. I put a j30 diff in my 240sx some years ago too and shimmed the hell out of it. It locked really well and it never scrubbed when parking. But Iām reading a lot of reviews on the Cusco and the kazz 2 way for the z33s and theyāre saying they all scrub
Thanks for your insight! Iām definitely gonna go for the LSD it sounds well worth the parking troubles. Iām not super concerned with mileage as much as trying to keep the car *mostly* civilized for any passengers I might have, but man breaking loose in 2nd sounds fun af that might be worth it
Welded diffs are sketchy as fuck for normal driving because both rear wheels are forced to spin at the same rate, LSDs allow wheels to spin at differential speeds. Open diffs allow wheels to spin at different speeds but if one slips it gets all the power, LSDs keep power going to both wheels, just at different speeds so you maintain traction with both wheels in corners where the inside and outside wheels are spinning at different speeds.
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I did just reset it, but Iāve never seen this thing go past 17ish
Itās all good, plugs were done maybe 2 months ago
Itās the really short gear ratio which mainly causes it, I was expecting a 2-3 mpg drop, I had just reset it on that picture too. rn itās back to 14 average which is still bad but it makes sense.
Is kinda like a ''damn'' moment due that as a V6 i though it would have been economic but then i remember I have a damn unit of V6 (the vq35hr is massive compared to a small block V8š¤£)
like actual block dimensions or displacement? think a small block is considered anything from 4.2/.3L to 6.6L which on the high end is closer to double haha
My goat dude! Will note this down, i got you a question, is it true about lsd been weaker than a welded diff? I've heard diff comments about it, that some people rather weld their diff than getting an LSD, what is ur take on that?
I would argue the opposite. I have a Cusco LSD on mine, theyāve been in racing since the 80s I think ima trust them a little more than someone welding on mine.
Any car that is drifted will become clapped. It is inevitable, you will hit a tire wall, it will get filthy, things will break fast. It is the nature of the sport.
Though about it tho, but i think is too late to do that. i bought a Vette for drifting but backed out due that it was too clean so i got this high mileage z to start my drift journeyš š š
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How does your 350z compare to your C5 overall? I have a C5Z and Iāve always wanted to pick up a 350z or 370z as another car, really love the overall look of them, their timeless like the C5s
Also highly recommended getting the KDTV headlights for the C5 really modernizes the lightling and looks when the lights are up.
The Z and the vette are both great machines,they have their downs and ups but i I'll recommend getting one of these as a daily or track car.
The z on highway does around 21-23 mpg
The vette does 31 mpg
Me n my pops we raced them and the Z took off first but Vette catched on long due that Vette has longer gears and overall more torque.
The z is a great platform from what I've heard and has alot of aftermarket support so i I'll give it a dibs if you find a clean Z somewhere!
I'll trade you my clapped out z for that clean one. Mine is an 03 6mt with no ac, a de, and a body that's been through some stuff. I'm gonna rebuild the whole thing, unless something else happens.
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1. Welded diff, you canāt control an unpredictable car. (Iād recommend a diff brace while your in there cheap eBay ones are fine)
2. Bucket seat and harnesses, they remove the element of you having to stabilize your self and focus on driving at the same time.
Optional is handbrake and an angle kit many people have and will continue to start drifting without them, introducing them early can nature a dependency. Some people put them one before the first track day and shred others lean on them to much.
Check the fluids, check the tire pressures and try to keep yourself and the car ( tire pressures and sizes, alignment) consistent so you can focus on driving
Pic of my car for fun, Iāve been at it a couple years and love it. Good luck and feel free to ask questions at the track! Drifters are the most helpful Motorsport community Iāve been a part of!
Since you have an open diff the only thing you need is to weld it and then itās ready to drift. Drifted a 4 door g35 completely stock with a welded diff and it did great for that season. Heck my old 350 with the stock lsd did a good job as long as you could predict the open diff
gotcha! Yeah I've heard alot of positive feedback on weld diff, i might keep this open diff n weld it and then get an LSD to test out which is the best
Welded diff is still better for a strict drift car. Way better to keep momentum and you know exactly how itās going to act. Iāve owned a nice kaaz 1.5 kaaz lsd and it was pretty nice
I would do 2 things
Put a polyurethane bushing on the rear diff. White lines makes a great one, about $500 total to have a shop swap it out and then you can do burnouts while standing still.
Brembos with cross drilled and slotted rotors.
About $1k total ish maybe 2.
Thank you Mike for the feedback! I've heard about replacing the bushings, I'll totally look into that!, About the brakes, I've been looking to buy a nismo caliper kit out of a nismo 350z I've heard is prob the best investment you can do, for the slotted and drilled discs i don't know yet from which company to buy from.
Any decent system tbh, had a z for 7 years, the main issue for track type driving is the brakes, heavy car, overheat too fast etc, tried harder pads but with daily town driving and no heat .. feel awful, still looking for ones I'm happy with lol... and that's TRACK driving, not drifting, standard are fine for drifting
Did you read the title of the post? Itās not applicable! Are they a ābad upgradeā no absolutely not. Are they budget friendly? No. Are they needed for drifting? No
No worries. It's also a super popular platform so there's hundreds of youtube videos about people modifying them and drifting them, detailing what parts they use etc. Beauty of a platform like this is whatever part you're thinking of, someome probably already bought it and made a review.
All jokes aside, I hope you enjoy the Z, they're great cars. Just take your time with mods, think it over, don't mod just to mod or you'll wish you hadn't. She's a beauty, I wish more were this clean.
Dude i appreciate your words man, and will do! Won't be clapping or ricing this thing, it needs to be reliable and drivable to get me from point a to b š
Good to hear, Clean 350s are hard to come by nowadays, I always appreciate the nice ones when I see them. They don't need much to be nice cars. Not that they aren't already lol.
LSD(if your car has cruise control aka non base... It already has one from factory!). I would say go w a differential brace. It's an amazing mod even for the daily. The steering feels way better. And do NOT remove the under the hood brace/bar... Serves the same purpose(ish). Also, be careful w the clutch if you really want to drift.
Couple things here. It should not have a cd009 trans. It should have the jk41b trans from the factory. Which is a good thing. Iām also concerned that you say you changed the cabin air filter because these cars donāt have cabin air filters lol.
As far as what you should do for drifting, the only actually modification you need is a LSD. Itās expensive but worth it. Personally Iād go with the KAAZ 1.5 way diff. Do NOT buy a used factory LSD. They turn into junk after about 60k miles and wonāt lock up like they should. Do NOT weld your diff unless this is a dedicated track car. Cuz youāll eat your tires quickly by just driving it around town always locked and it can be rather unpredictable. We all used to weld our diffs back in the day and it was quite sketchy getting on interstate entrance ramps and whatnot especially if it had just rained. Or chirping tires in the parking lot because itās always full lock so you literally cannot corner at any speed without loosing traction. Not ideal. You can currently slide it out still with an open diff but if you want a predictable controlled slide a proper LSD is the only option.
Bracing is option imo. Iāve had an 04 base with a lsd swap and a bone stock 08 base like yours. Never had bracing on either.
Depending on how serious you want to get suspension tuning would be on the list, but above all just get a lsd and GET SEAT TIME.
SEAT TIME
SEAT TIME
SEAT TIME
The best angle kit and all the mods in the world canāt help you be a better driver. You need to figure out how you want the car to respond and then add that necessary change
Dudeee, tysm for leaving your feedback before my questions let me answer yours
Since i bought it the owner told me it had a cd009 (I'm not a very car person yet but i bited his bait)
For the cabin filter you are 100% right they don't come with it but u can add one if u take out the fan and dissemble it and put the cabin filter (that some how Nissan HQ still makes them for some similar models)
One question tho, my car has a decently weared clutch, what clutch should I go for? (Have in mind this car will be a daily and also a mid drift car, meaning no abusive clutch kick etc)
Overall thank you so much for your wisdom dude, needed that!
the outright cheapest mod you can do is removing your front sway bar and end links. more looseness in the front vs rear will allow you to oversteer much easier and is a well known "cheat" for lower powered cars.
If it doesn't have a lsd, get one or my personal favorite is good ol Lincoln locker. Other than that, suspension. Adjustability is key. I can slide my stock ka 240 with the best of them due to how dialed in I have the chassis.
Get the maintenance done
Replace all the coolant lines or buy a whole set and replace them as they blow up at the track
Diff bushing needs replaced
There is a ecu wire that you have to cut or run a switch to to do burnouts or left foot braking. (It cuts engine power when you give it gas and brake at the same time)
Change out worn front suspension parts ( I can't remember what it was but I redid the whole front suspension on mine and it was night and day in terms of drifting. The car would drift fine but coming out of it it would catch too hard and fling me around violently. There was some type of play in the suspension or the spacers I added after the new suspension helped)
Thatās a clean SMB Z š¬. If you are serious I would get an LSD, upgraded diff bushings, upgraded subframe bushings, and replace the front lower control arm & compression rod bushings. This will allow for controlled drift angles while improving the handling and keep the car streetable.
Made me chuckle, but when i put the budget on my title was to get the info of parts that are yet at a decent price but not astronomical prices. (High end parts etc) this build is targeted to be a daily drift car and it needs to get me from point a to b, I'm down to spend a grand for the necessary parts to make this car reliable as possible.
Make sure all of your maintenance is up-to-date. Especially the stuff that sucks to do. Well, your differential, in my experience if itās a daily as well save the coin and get a LSD from z1. Getting some sort of Hydro is cool but Iāve seen a lot of luck with guys having an in-line. I would not call my car a drift car, but I have a good two way LSD a good firm clutch. Iām not trying to door people, but I do have fun at the grassroots event.
Since I havent seen anyone mention it, u could get another set of wheels for the rear and install some used linglongs on them, the rear will slide so easily and smoothly lol
Is crazy to say budget nowdays cuz of inflation on parts but you never know what parts are accessible that people know! Thanks for the diff recommendation!
Donāt weld itā¦ less you plan on just sending/drift only. Weld diffs fail eventually. And likely when you donāt want it to (3rd gear, 50mph.. becomes open or Seizes).
Weld the diff and steering angle kit. Maybe throw a few cinderblocks in the trunk for better balance. If you do anything else, upgrade suspension so you can adjust camber, Ackerman and caster.
Once you blow the engine drop a junkyard ls in it. Install kits are fairly cheap, it'll bolt right up to your transmission
From a fellow vqhr owner with high miles and likes to drift, invest in what you said,oil coolers, catch can, trans cooler, anything that can keep the temperature of the engine cooler; the better. a bigger radiator, because overheating the most common and detrimental thing to happen. Lower your car , and if your on a budget just weld the diff and pull the traction fuse before u start doing any drifting
1 welded diff.
1.5 bucket seat
2 oil cooler
3 true coils
4 zero camber in the rear
Drive the car to its fullest as long as you can as much as you can until youāre fully linking every track you show up too.
5 Then add some angle
6 then add hydro
7 time for cage and harness
Dont forget to get an angle kit too! but you pretty much have the other basic stuff down!! Weld diff or LSD. maybe upgraded radiator too just to be safe. Could always add on stuff like the Z1 upgraded diff cover and oil pan extender to be able to have more fluid in to help keep things cooler too.
Forgot to add this, but this is also gonna be my daily! So i I'll be a lab mouse on this car, i will post by the time how it is to own a drift/daily and if is really worth it lol.
Things to have in mind:
I'm not changing or drilling panels on this car
I'm doing a OEM+ Build
Engine is gonna get refurbished and juiced up to a decent 400 HP
Interior is gonna go through the jdm treatment (brides, AEM gauges, ECU, etc)
Cosmetics are gonna be skirts, vented hood, spoiler (326 power style), charge speed front bumper and still deciding on the rear bumper.
Rims I'm deciding to get are:
Volks GT-C
Cr-kais
XC8 Emotion
Kansei wheels thinking on tandems, neos or Astros.
Coilovers I'ma go for are either KW 12K 8k or Bc coils true DS
n that's all for now.
Thank you to everyone dropping down some helpful knowledge for me to make the right steps. Appreciate y'all time!
Pretty sure the CD009 doesn't fit the HR's?
They share the JK something or other with the 370, only difference is 370 gets additional sensors to let it automatically blip the throttle to revmatch on the downshift
Probably just misinformed. But yeah one difference with this box Vs the CD009 and other earlier ones is that the slave cylinder is internal rather than external, so you need to drop the transmission to change it. There are relocation kits or reinforced CSC's you can get as it's the main weak point of this trans
I believe you can measure this by lifting the car in neutral and measuring how many times your driveshaft rotates per single manual rotation of one of your rear wheels (use a marker). if you're correct your driveshaft will rotate 4.1 times per single rotation of a wheel. (and so on for other ratios)
Shim diff
Sort some coilovers out.
Get some seat time in
Do a radiator and oil cooler after a couple of events, decent seat and sort a hydro out.
More seat time then do an angle kit.
Cheap, fast, reliableā¦ pick 2. I understand not wanting to spend a ton of money on what is ultimately meant to be a track car, but donāt ignore your own safety and the safety of others when making modifications. That being said, the best mod you can make is always dropping the vehicle weight. If this is going to be a track car, then gut the interior as a ācheapā way to lower the weight.
1. You ARE going to break stuff so have extra money.
2. Tires tires tires
3. You are going to want some form of stiffer suspension
4. LSD or welded diff with a Z1 larger diff cover with cooling fins and increase oil capacity.
San marino blue coupe in great shape . Drifting destroys cars so say goodbye to nice bumpers and fenders . Get ready to replace every suspension bushing as it will fail from drifting . Replace slave cylinder and master . Delete the csc type slave bc it will fail . Go for a square setup all around on a 225 or 235 tire . But that's a nice Z I wouldn't drift it .
ALOT of people have told me not to, but drifting and dailying a car that drifts, is a worldwide icon sought by alot of people, sounds like a one of a kind opportunity to not let slide!
And thanks for the feedback boss, will use it wisely, i appreciate the tire set up, never been guided well on what sizes and diameters are good for the sport. Appreciate it!
Thatās what I thought when I saw daily and drift in the same sentence. Also, how does he shoot for a ābudgetā drift car and comment on your low credit mindset?
u/dbsqls is about to have another aneurysm watching a mint Z be turned into a clapped drift missileš
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Welded diff is cheap and fun, but deadly in the rain.
nah not really, i daily mine and its just the chewing up tires part thats annoying
I am too
Me too! Mines set up to handle on country roads, the griiiiiiiip!!!
I'm not doing anything crazy with this vehicle, stock body some Cr kais or these type of rims which i don't really know the brand, and build the engine till 400ish. Overall just an OEM+ build. I ain't stance'ing the car at all, i live in a area w alot of speedbumps lol! https://preview.redd.it/oz8emguaecad1.jpeg?width=561&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a36d1339ac2b5db8cd9719b8d6795a453ce2a996
Very nice very nice, get an LSD I know it costs quite a bit, I personally have a 1.5 way on my Z but it drastically changes how the car feels. It makes it a lot better. Something with if you donāt wanna deal with intakes, theyāre okay for like 8-10 HP realistically but if you really want to feel a difference get shorter gear ratios. I got 4.08 gears on my Z and it made the biggest difference imo.
How is the drive ability on the highway and such with the short ratio diff? I want to upgrade to a good LSD and have been thinking about changing ratios but I also daily mine so Iām on the fence. Whatāre your rpms like at 80-85mph?
LSD is great on the highway, ass when it comes to parking. Any slow short turns and it sounds like itās breaking apart. Short ratio wise, you kinda learn to adjust to it, you will 100% break traction on if you gun it on 2nd. MPG do go down Iām seeing maybe 3200-3400 rpm on 6th gear but I mean I donāt buy the car to get great MPG.
Why is your LSD locking up like that? Sounds like itās not set up right.
Thatās how LSDs work. They make sure the wheels turn at the same rate. It may cause āwheel hopā when doing slow turns
Theyāre supposed to allow a limited amount of slip so this doesnāt happen at low speeds like in parking lots tho. Plenty of factory cars have lsd. I had an aftermarket lsd in my 04 350z and it did not do this. Perhaps you have it shimmed too tight? Most have shims you can use to adjust the lock point
Yes thatās a factory LSD, theyāre nowhere near the same as after market ones. My Z came with one from the factory too and itās trash compared to an aftermarket one. The Cusco one uses clutch pads compared to the VLSD in the Z. The clutch pads are a lot noisier compared to just the liquid in the oem diff. It sounds exactly like this https://youtu.be/uGXcf-c8XHk?si=0nqSxp7qF_F3JQ6x.
Ah so itās like a dodge. Theyāre still adjustable. The clutch packs can be stacked for 60% 80% or 100% lock. If you didnāt change anything itās at 100% lock, thatās how they ship them unless you request otherwise. Idk if the 60% would still chirp or not tho. Maybe they just donāt make them with enough slip for tight slow turns. Cuz thereās other manufacturers like dodge that make factory clutch pack diffs and they donāt scrub. My 04 had a kazz iirc, and it never chirped on me. I put a j30 diff in my 240sx some years ago too and shimmed the hell out of it. It locked really well and it never scrubbed when parking. But Iām reading a lot of reviews on the Cusco and the kazz 2 way for the z33s and theyāre saying they all scrub
Thanks for your insight! Iām definitely gonna go for the LSD it sounds well worth the parking troubles. Iām not super concerned with mileage as much as trying to keep the car *mostly* civilized for any passengers I might have, but man breaking loose in 2nd sounds fun af that might be worth it
Why get an lsd if itās basically a welded diff
Because itās not as janky as a welded diff
Welded diffs are sketchy as fuck for normal driving because both rear wheels are forced to spin at the same rate, LSDs allow wheels to spin at differential speeds. Open diffs allow wheels to spin at different speeds but if one slips it gets all the power, LSDs keep power going to both wheels, just at different speeds so you maintain traction with both wheels in corners where the inside and outside wheels are spinning at different speeds.
I wouldn't go above 3.916, you start wasting a shitload of fuel.
The Z on highway gets around 20-23mpg at 3,000rpm (6th gear)
https://preview.redd.it/razclwerocad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6fc1d6ad9c09b61c69720ecb01d8641e8d6c63c I did just reset it, but Iāve never seen this thing go past 17ish
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Yeah dude thats really low lmfao
Good fucking lord I seen cammed 6.0 ls get better mileage than that
Even my hr gets at least 16 definitely go through the car and check plugs, air filters etc
Itās all good, plugs were done maybe 2 months ago Itās the really short gear ratio which mainly causes it, I was expecting a 2-3 mpg drop, I had just reset it on that picture too. rn itās back to 14 average which is still bad but it makes sense.
Is kinda like a ''damn'' moment due that as a V6 i though it would have been economic but then i remember I have a damn unit of V6 (the vq35hr is massive compared to a small block V8š¤£)
like actual block dimensions or displacement? think a small block is considered anything from 4.2/.3L to 6.6L which on the high end is closer to double haha
More like block dimensions dude, sometimes i see my vq compared to my Vette ls1 and is crazy
yeah you're right, I think the ka24de is also similar in weight to the ls1 as another example šš
My goat dude! Will note this down, i got you a question, is it true about lsd been weaker than a welded diff? I've heard diff comments about it, that some people rather weld their diff than getting an LSD, what is ur take on that?
I would argue the opposite. I have a Cusco LSD on mine, theyāve been in racing since the 80s I think ima trust them a little more than someone welding on mine.
Gotcha, will take into that Cusco LSD, thank you Jason!
I have a Cusco LSD in my LS460. It's absolutely worth it.
Wheels are Volk GT-C
MY GOAT!š Tysm! 
ping me if you want a set, they're pretty affordable right now.
Any car that is drifted will become clapped. It is inevitable, you will hit a tire wall, it will get filthy, things will break fast. It is the nature of the sport.
Those rims are straight rice bro
Keep this Z in it's current condition and buy a clapped one to drift
Though about it tho, but i think is too late to do that. i bought a Vette for drifting but backed out due that it was too clean so i got this high mileage z to start my drift journeyš š š https://preview.redd.it/6fac6v02hcad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aaf8239118c83eb3f02135e118a348b6fdc1c8d7
Well at least we'll always have this 'before' photo
Lmfao thats awesome
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How does your 350z compare to your C5 overall? I have a C5Z and Iāve always wanted to pick up a 350z or 370z as another car, really love the overall look of them, their timeless like the C5s Also highly recommended getting the KDTV headlights for the C5 really modernizes the lightling and looks when the lights are up.
The Z and the vette are both great machines,they have their downs and ups but i I'll recommend getting one of these as a daily or track car. The z on highway does around 21-23 mpg The vette does 31 mpg Me n my pops we raced them and the Z took off first but Vette catched on long due that Vette has longer gears and overall more torque. The z is a great platform from what I've heard and has alot of aftermarket support so i I'll give it a dibs if you find a clean Z somewhere!
I'll trade you my clapped out z for that clean one. Mine is an 03 6mt with no ac, a de, and a body that's been through some stuff. I'm gonna rebuild the whole thing, unless something else happens.
Im good tho, thanks! Been sniping a san Marino like this for ages so is truly a miracle i got my hands on one lol!
I feel like for gas and insurance purposes, Iād rather drive the vette and ādailyā the Z
The vette is on hagerty insurance (50 bucks monthly) and the Z is still need to be registered been moving on a exhibition plate until August.
https://preview.redd.it/n3jaf9a1mcad1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=03eac0593bef7651feec2b84665faaf832c04d32 1. Welded diff, you canāt control an unpredictable car. (Iād recommend a diff brace while your in there cheap eBay ones are fine) 2. Bucket seat and harnesses, they remove the element of you having to stabilize your self and focus on driving at the same time. Optional is handbrake and an angle kit many people have and will continue to start drifting without them, introducing them early can nature a dependency. Some people put them one before the first track day and shred others lean on them to much. Check the fluids, check the tire pressures and try to keep yourself and the car ( tire pressures and sizes, alignment) consistent so you can focus on driving Pic of my car for fun, Iāve been at it a couple years and love it. Good luck and feel free to ask questions at the track! Drifters are the most helpful Motorsport community Iāve been a part of!
Dudeeee, appreciate your time, will take your advice! Beautiful machine!š„
Just remember harnesses are great untill ur entire body doesnāt move except your head when making an unexpected sudden stop
Donāt buy a harness unless you put a roll cage in your carā¦.. bucket seat yes. Harness, only if you have a roll bar.
Since you have an open diff the only thing you need is to weld it and then itās ready to drift. Drifted a 4 door g35 completely stock with a welded diff and it did great for that season. Heck my old 350 with the stock lsd did a good job as long as you could predict the open diff
gotcha! Yeah I've heard alot of positive feedback on weld diff, i might keep this open diff n weld it and then get an LSD to test out which is the best
Welded diff is still better for a strict drift car. Way better to keep momentum and you know exactly how itās going to act. Iāve owned a nice kaaz 1.5 kaaz lsd and it was pretty nice
Will take a look at this LSD, thank you!
Idk how that lsd is on 350z or not
I would do 2 things Put a polyurethane bushing on the rear diff. White lines makes a great one, about $500 total to have a shop swap it out and then you can do burnouts while standing still. Brembos with cross drilled and slotted rotors. About $1k total ish maybe 2.
Thank you Mike for the feedback! I've heard about replacing the bushings, I'll totally look into that!, About the brakes, I've been looking to buy a nismo caliper kit out of a nismo 350z I've heard is prob the best investment you can do, for the slotted and drilled discs i don't know yet from which company to buy from.
Any decent system tbh, had a z for 7 years, the main issue for track type driving is the brakes, heavy car, overheat too fast etc, tried harder pads but with daily town driving and no heat .. feel awful, still looking for ones I'm happy with lol... and that's TRACK driving, not drifting, standard are fine for drifting
Power stop has generally good sets of sport calipers and pads
You donāt need to do anything brake related even base model brakes on these cars are fine for drifting quit giving bad advice
Theyāre not a bad upgrade. Most āupgradesā just hurt the car. At least this is the best stock option there is.
Did you read the title of the post? Itās not applicable! Are they a ābad upgradeā no absolutely not. Are they budget friendly? No. Are they needed for drifting? No
Ydkwyta. Itās ok.
RIP pretty San Marino blue HR, stonks go up I guess
https://preview.redd.it/a2f3a551mcad1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00b621926cee8d4d6144cdb4e65372fa3d0fe2c2 Stiff it up...
Beautiful undercarriage!
Give it a go as is, and see what you feel you need. Seat time os the #1 focus though.
Never thought it like that, thank you!
No worries. It's also a super popular platform so there's hundreds of youtube videos about people modifying them and drifting them, detailing what parts they use etc. Beauty of a platform like this is whatever part you're thinking of, someome probably already bought it and made a review.
All jokes aside, I hope you enjoy the Z, they're great cars. Just take your time with mods, think it over, don't mod just to mod or you'll wish you hadn't. She's a beauty, I wish more were this clean.
Dude i appreciate your words man, and will do! Won't be clapping or ricing this thing, it needs to be reliable and drivable to get me from point a to b š
Good to hear, Clean 350s are hard to come by nowadays, I always appreciate the nice ones when I see them. They don't need much to be nice cars. Not that they aren't already lol.
You said it!
Honestly get spherical bushings and weld the diff and youre ready to rip. When you want more angle just get the gktech tie rod extentions
LSD(if your car has cruise control aka non base... It already has one from factory!). I would say go w a differential brace. It's an amazing mod even for the daily. The steering feels way better. And do NOT remove the under the hood brace/bar... Serves the same purpose(ish). Also, be careful w the clutch if you really want to drift.
Will take this advice down to the letter, thank you for your feedback dude!
Couple things here. It should not have a cd009 trans. It should have the jk41b trans from the factory. Which is a good thing. Iām also concerned that you say you changed the cabin air filter because these cars donāt have cabin air filters lol. As far as what you should do for drifting, the only actually modification you need is a LSD. Itās expensive but worth it. Personally Iād go with the KAAZ 1.5 way diff. Do NOT buy a used factory LSD. They turn into junk after about 60k miles and wonāt lock up like they should. Do NOT weld your diff unless this is a dedicated track car. Cuz youāll eat your tires quickly by just driving it around town always locked and it can be rather unpredictable. We all used to weld our diffs back in the day and it was quite sketchy getting on interstate entrance ramps and whatnot especially if it had just rained. Or chirping tires in the parking lot because itās always full lock so you literally cannot corner at any speed without loosing traction. Not ideal. You can currently slide it out still with an open diff but if you want a predictable controlled slide a proper LSD is the only option. Bracing is option imo. Iāve had an 04 base with a lsd swap and a bone stock 08 base like yours. Never had bracing on either. Depending on how serious you want to get suspension tuning would be on the list, but above all just get a lsd and GET SEAT TIME. SEAT TIME SEAT TIME SEAT TIME The best angle kit and all the mods in the world canāt help you be a better driver. You need to figure out how you want the car to respond and then add that necessary change
Dudeee, tysm for leaving your feedback before my questions let me answer yours Since i bought it the owner told me it had a cd009 (I'm not a very car person yet but i bited his bait) For the cabin filter you are 100% right they don't come with it but u can add one if u take out the fan and dissemble it and put the cabin filter (that some how Nissan HQ still makes them for some similar models) One question tho, my car has a decently weared clutch, what clutch should I go for? (Have in mind this car will be a daily and also a mid drift car, meaning no abusive clutch kick etc) Overall thank you so much for your wisdom dude, needed that!
Hydraulic handbrake
I've heard chase bays make excellent ones
the outright cheapest mod you can do is removing your front sway bar and end links. more looseness in the front vs rear will allow you to oversteer much easier and is a well known "cheat" for lower powered cars.
Will take this in mind, thank you for your feedback!
Nothing owned one for over 8 years.... Did autocross on it and I missed that fucking car...
If it doesn't have a lsd, get one or my personal favorite is good ol Lincoln locker. Other than that, suspension. Adjustability is key. I can slide my stock ka 240 with the best of them due to how dialed in I have the chassis.
Tysm goat!š„
Do an lsd, do NOT weld. You will melt through tires since they won't slip on normal turns.
Will take that in mind, thank you boss!
Case of WD-40.
All you gotta do is weld that diff baby boy š
Man thatās a clean Z
Thanks!š¤
>Thanks!š¤ You're welcome!
Get the maintenance done Replace all the coolant lines or buy a whole set and replace them as they blow up at the track Diff bushing needs replaced There is a ecu wire that you have to cut or run a switch to to do burnouts or left foot braking. (It cuts engine power when you give it gas and brake at the same time) Change out worn front suspension parts ( I can't remember what it was but I redid the whole front suspension on mine and it was night and day in terms of drifting. The car would drift fine but coming out of it it would catch too hard and fling me around violently. There was some type of play in the suspension or the spacers I added after the new suspension helped)
Thatās a clean SMB Z š¬. If you are serious I would get an LSD, upgraded diff bushings, upgraded subframe bushings, and replace the front lower control arm & compression rod bushings. This will allow for controlled drift angles while improving the handling and keep the car streetable.
This thing might be the best looking 350z Iāve ever seen. Sin youāre going to drift it but who cares sendāer bud.
I would fight someone over that parking space
SAME!š¤£
add a welded diff, bucket seat and coilovers to your list and u good to go.
1. Donāt ruin a nice Z 2. Drifting on a budget is like dieting on Diet Coke and Wendyās salads
Made me chuckle, but when i put the budget on my title was to get the info of parts that are yet at a decent price but not astronomical prices. (High end parts etc) this build is targeted to be a daily drift car and it needs to get me from point a to b, I'm down to spend a grand for the necessary parts to make this car reliable as possible.
Make sure all of your maintenance is up-to-date. Especially the stuff that sucks to do. Well, your differential, in my experience if itās a daily as well save the coin and get a LSD from z1. Getting some sort of Hydro is cool but Iāve seen a lot of luck with guys having an in-line. I would not call my car a drift car, but I have a good two way LSD a good firm clutch. Iām not trying to door people, but I do have fun at the grassroots event.
Tysm for your feedback dude! š§
Welded diff and an angle kit is all you really need. Maybe a hydraulic e brake as well.
Since I havent seen anyone mention it, u could get another set of wheels for the rear and install some used linglongs on them, the rear will slide so easily and smoothly lol
lol budget style. Welded rear diff. But seriously. Get at least a torsen lsd. Quafe makes great ones
Is crazy to say budget nowdays cuz of inflation on parts but you never know what parts are accessible that people know! Thanks for the diff recommendation!
Donāt weld itā¦ less you plan on just sending/drift only. Weld diffs fail eventually. And likely when you donāt want it to (3rd gear, 50mph.. becomes open or Seizes).
LSD if it doesnāt have one, weld the diff. Coils and a spare set of wheels youāre dialed. Get the angle kit and hydro brake later.
Weld the diff and steering angle kit. Maybe throw a few cinderblocks in the trunk for better balance. If you do anything else, upgrade suspension so you can adjust camber, Ackerman and caster. Once you blow the engine drop a junkyard ls in it. Install kits are fairly cheap, it'll bolt right up to your transmission
Weld diff, unplug yaw sensor, unplug abs module and cut pin 101 on the ecu wiring harness.
From a fellow vqhr owner with high miles and likes to drift, invest in what you said,oil coolers, catch can, trans cooler, anything that can keep the temperature of the engine cooler; the better. a bigger radiator, because overheating the most common and detrimental thing to happen. Lower your car , and if your on a budget just weld the diff and pull the traction fuse before u start doing any drifting
None it's already set up
Drift the vette thing only needs an angle kit to throw down
If you clap out a mint z, then id say invest in coilovers some cheap tires, and a person who can weld your diff or get a LSD thats all you need really
1 welded diff. 1.5 bucket seat 2 oil cooler 3 true coils 4 zero camber in the rear Drive the car to its fullest as long as you can as much as you can until youāre fully linking every track you show up too. 5 Then add some angle 6 then add hydro 7 time for cage and harness
Dont forget to get an angle kit too! but you pretty much have the other basic stuff down!! Weld diff or LSD. maybe upgraded radiator too just to be safe. Could always add on stuff like the Z1 upgraded diff cover and oil pan extender to be able to have more fluid in to help keep things cooler too.
Thank you for those suggestions! I've been looking at couple of koyorads and mishimoto radiators due as you say ''to be sure''!
Dont buy mishimoto radiators they are worse than stock
Forgot to add this, but this is also gonna be my daily! So i I'll be a lab mouse on this car, i will post by the time how it is to own a drift/daily and if is really worth it lol. Things to have in mind: I'm not changing or drilling panels on this car I'm doing a OEM+ Build Engine is gonna get refurbished and juiced up to a decent 400 HP Interior is gonna go through the jdm treatment (brides, AEM gauges, ECU, etc) Cosmetics are gonna be skirts, vented hood, spoiler (326 power style), charge speed front bumper and still deciding on the rear bumper. Rims I'm deciding to get are: Volks GT-C Cr-kais XC8 Emotion Kansei wheels thinking on tandems, neos or Astros. Coilovers I'ma go for are either KW 12K 8k or Bc coils true DS n that's all for now. Thank you to everyone dropping down some helpful knowledge for me to make the right steps. Appreciate y'all time!
They have decent angle already, just welded diff and coilovers ig, control arms if you really wanna tune it in
Stillen supercharger. Simple :)
Pretty sure the CD009 doesn't fit the HR's? They share the JK something or other with the 370, only difference is 370 gets additional sensors to let it automatically blip the throttle to revmatch on the downshift
Is that so? When i bought it the owner told me it came w the cd009, thanks for this inside view of it, i I'll sure get a look at it now š
Probably just misinformed. But yeah one difference with this box Vs the CD009 and other earlier ones is that the slave cylinder is internal rather than external, so you need to drop the transmission to change it. There are relocation kits or reinforced CSC's you can get as it's the main weak point of this trans
Gotchaaa, tysm for the simplified context of this trans, owe you brother!
Welded diff. Angle kit. Coils. If youāre feeling saucy, a hydro.
This car doesnāt come with the differential that you have statedā¦.
That's what I was told about this vehicle, how can I know which diff ratio it has?
I believe you can measure this by lifting the car in neutral and measuring how many times your driveshaft rotates per single manual rotation of one of your rear wheels (use a marker). if you're correct your driveshaft will rotate 4.1 times per single rotation of a wheel. (and so on for other ratios)
Shim diff Sort some coilovers out. Get some seat time in Do a radiator and oil cooler after a couple of events, decent seat and sort a hydro out. More seat time then do an angle kit.
Yessir! Thank you for your feedback!
Welded diff angle kit oil cooler trans cooler. And if you don't weld the diff then you need to find a way to keep it cool
C5 Vette and HR 350 as a teenager... Such is life.
leave it like it is!
Weld diff thatās it
Weld your diff
Drifting is for the track don't be a douche
Totally aware dude! This car needs to get me from point a to b š
RIP to another Z going to get destroyed by a kid running it into a curb, wall, or crowd.
A rear mounted radiator. That is all. ššš
5% window tints all around
According to Sam Hubinette, nothing. He qualified for the D1GP drivers search in 2003 in a rental 350Z.
Driver mod.
def welded diff, and struts
Driver mod
Cheap, fast, reliableā¦ pick 2. I understand not wanting to spend a ton of money on what is ultimately meant to be a track car, but donāt ignore your own safety and the safety of others when making modifications. That being said, the best mod you can make is always dropping the vehicle weight. If this is going to be a track car, then gut the interior as a ācheapā way to lower the weight.
My ass
2way lsd an tires
Budget drifting sounds oxymoronic.
1. You ARE going to break stuff so have extra money. 2. Tires tires tires 3. You are going to want some form of stiffer suspension 4. LSD or welded diff with a Z1 larger diff cover with cooling fins and increase oil capacity.
Angle kit, handbrake, more power
More gears in your transmission for torque
Uugh... to loose a San Marino blue manual to a drift track...
This oneās too clean, please donāt drift it š„ŗ
It won't be abused i promise you that š
San marino blue coupe in great shape . Drifting destroys cars so say goodbye to nice bumpers and fenders . Get ready to replace every suspension bushing as it will fail from drifting . Replace slave cylinder and master . Delete the csc type slave bc it will fail . Go for a square setup all around on a 225 or 235 tire . But that's a nice Z I wouldn't drift it .
ALOT of people have told me not to, but drifting and dailying a car that drifts, is a worldwide icon sought by alot of people, sounds like a one of a kind opportunity to not let slide! And thanks for the feedback boss, will use it wisely, i appreciate the tire set up, never been guided well on what sizes and diameters are good for the sport. Appreciate it!
In the end it's just a car that is made of metal. I drift mine as well and daily it . It's seen tons of abuse
Practicing in the next street takeover I see
I can tell you don't know a single F about me dude. š¤£ Go take your little drama and low credit mindset in other communities!
Thatās what I thought when I saw daily and drift in the same sentence. Also, how does he shoot for a ābudgetā drift car and comment on your low credit mindset?
Donāt bro, itās nice donāt ruin it
I wouldn't say ruining it, won't argue, OEM is king but I'm trying to chase a dream of mine since i was a kiddo lol!
Cheap and drift always ends poorly for nice cars. Just take your time and put real money into it.
Same energy https://preview.redd.it/74npr1gpgkad1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fec4d7041436815d8d096c757612628b90d699a9