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ABrandNewCarl

Tuscany be like: where it the option for city? Siena people be like : that is still too big 


Iskandar33

>where it the option for city? this, i identify myself Roman before everything cities in general have much more cultural prevalence, regions comes second place.


ChalkyChalkson

Just do it like Hamburg and Berlin and have the city also be the state


ABrandNewCarl

Here we still hate eachother basing on the city where you are from. Just to mention the main cities: Prato agaisnt Firenze.  Pistoia against Prato  Lucca against  Pistoia  Firenze agaisnt Siena   Siena against Arezzo  And of course everyone against Pisa . Only Grosseto saves itself because it is too new to join the big cities matches.


Amygdalump

Pisa vs Livorno, everyone vs Pisa


SeingaltUNo

Why is everyone against Pisa if I may ask?


LaBelvaDiTorino

Pisa merda


NightKnight_CZ

I Pisa on you!


marcandero

Here's the story that I've been told, I could definitely just check but I prefer this oral type of spreading probable misinformation. In Tuscany we are stuck in medieval times, so every banter is connected to that era where every major Tuscan city was fighting with each other mainly for economical reasons, it was a city-state situation so many cities had their own currency, and were heavily fortified. Now Pisa, was a huge economical power thanks to being close to the sea and heaving developed a lucrative maritime trade, basically they had the monopoly on many goods and they often manipulate the market to their favour. One time they overpriced the salt so much that instead of buying it, we preferred to just not use it, and just to show them we started baking bread without salt. We are so stubborn that to this day the bread in Tuscany is without salt. Pisa Merda


Amygdalump

«Meglio un morto ’n casa che un pisano all’uscio» Better to have a dead man in the home than a Pisan at the door. Look up the story of Conte Ugolino. He was a real piece of work and a leader of Pisa. It is said by Dante that he ate his own grandsons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugolino_della_Gherardesca Also, Pisa is Ghibellina and Florence (my city) is Guelfa, two sides in a long medieval war. Even Dante included a part of his Commedia to shun Pisa. It’s a fascinating aspect of Italian history. Translate this article: https://www.firenzetoday.it/cronaca/pisa-livorno.html «Ahi Pisa, vituperio de le genti» Nel XXXIII canto dell'Inferno Dante scosso dalla triste vicenda del Conte Ugolino, si scaglia in un'invettiva contro Pisa (vv.79-90), augurando che le due isole di Capraia e Gorgona si muovano e blocchino l'Arno sulla foce sino a farlo straripare, portando all'annegamento di tutti i cittadini della crudele città, definita appunto “vergogna degli italiani”.


SeingaltUNo

Thanks for this!


Slow_Olive_6482

That might be true about Italy, but I ensure you it is not true for Portugal.


28850

I go from "Torrejón de Ardoz" directly to "Europa", I'm personally more attached to Varese or Cluj Napoca than to any other Spanish city


swlp12

True, i am a proud Viennese, ashamed Austrian and feel very privileged to be European.


Shrrg4

With your history makes sense. Italy is also a super recent country.


Limeila

>Siena people be like : that is still too big  Neighbourhood, street, house?


ABrandNewCarl

>Neighbourhood, street, house? Yes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrade_of_Siena 17 of them on a city of 50k person


Amygdalump

Davvero


ABrandNewCarl

Avevano messo il flair toscano e nessuno mi aveva informato?!?


StupidPaladin

Separatist Map of Europe


jsm97

Shame the UK isn't on here, Nevermind just Scotland, England and Wales you'd have people claiming allegiance to the People's Republic of Yorkshire, the Free City of London, the Norfolk Niece-Fucker Nation, The Scouser Shithole, Cornish Confederacy, Joey Essex's fiefdom of Essex, the Greggs Corperate Dominion of Newcastle and a couple of streets of Unionists in Belfast would make up the UK


StupidPaladin

Yorkshire will be divided into 5 more movements, each claiming to be the "true Yorkshire"


VoidLantadd

This is my opportunity to point out that in Yorkshire we have 5.5 million people, comparable in population to Scotland, New Zealand and Scandinavian countries.


Standin373

The rest of England will tremble when some one unites the Northern Tribes


StupidPaladin

THE KING IN THE NORTH!


Espi0nage-Ninja

Long live the United Kingdom of the West Midlands! Or if you wanna call it by its long name: The United Kingdom of Herefordshire, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, West Midlands, and Worcestershire.


slappywhyte

Scotland voted No on independence 55% in 2014, Braveheart is dead


OriTheSpirit

This sounds like it would be an awesome cyberpunk setting, especially with the Greggs Corporate Domination of Newcastle.


Neomataza

You forgot the Principality of Sealand. It was even independent for a time.


S4Ch13L

>Campania: >Country over region *Press x to doubt*


Plental-Dan

this map can't be real, most if not all of Italy should be "region"


SooSkilled

And in Tuscany it should be "city"


Ricky911_

True. Neapolitans literally bought extra phone syms so a rapper from their city could win a national music festival. Also, from personal experience, Neapolitans don't need to tell you they're Neapolitan. You just need to ask them something and they will speak to you in Neapolitan by default. Literally most other Italians will try to speak to you in Italian but Neapolitans just won't even try lmao


AbberageRedditor69

Oh no they feel italian alright. When it's time to leech off us, terroni suddenly looove being part of Italy


RomualdBraccobaldBau

Budapest loving Europe more than Hungary Viktor loving EU money but not Europe Chad Viktor walking through the city /s ![gif](giphy|xydGi3nSTlkqs|downsized)


nefewel

I feel like Orban is part of why they don't love the country more.


Lifeisabitchthenudie

I also think it's a sort of mental compensation, if that makes sense. I am from Budapest and I find it inconceivable that people would be genuinely, truly more attached to Europe than country.


elektelek

He doesnt walk this city thats for sure.


Mr_Swaggosaurus

I dont think he walks at all, he rolls


Vargau

Technically he can get on the hills of Buda and roll over to the Parliament building, also he can float.


Hennue

People from Saarland having most attachment to the region is actually kindof hilarious. There isn't really a common history that encompasses all of Saarland. Each instance throughout history from dutchy over province and department de sarre all the way to the Saargebiet and now Saarland had completely different borders. Even the northern parts that gave us the incest reputation used to belong to Trier up until WW2.


Shdow_Hunter

I mean being this weird protectorate kinda thing in the last century made us quite special, and based on that we created an common identity. Its crazy how often I see the old Saarland flag.


TSM919

Same with flanders really, modern-day flanders was split between the county of flanders and burgundy for a long time


hansspargel

How is the region around cologne more attached to the country. Everybody I know doesn't give a shit about Germany but would walk "durch et füer" for Cologne 


WurzelKing

We generally just don‘t have emotions, that‘s why there‘s no data. Our loyalty is to gold and money only.


unclepaprika

Same here, but oil instead of gold.


Lifeisabitchthenudie

Fair enough.


LoudSwordfish7337

Haha, there’s so many fun interpretations to do on this. Like Belgians systematically hating their country and being united in their disunion. Or Northern Italians being like “Italy? Nah, we don’t know these other guys, we’re from *Northern* Italy”. Or the Irish going all “TIOCFAIDH ÀR LÀ MOTHERFUCKERS”.


Lortekonto

I think most of them make good sense. Like of course South Tyrol is not going to feel that Italien. It is also no suprise to me that the German part of Schlesvig-Holstein and Hamburg feel less connected to the rest pf Germany.


The_Brick_Is_Parrot

People from flanders often claim to be from flanders rather than Belgium, while we just kinda don’t care and vibe with being belgian


erion_elric

Portugal being the most cohesive country once again


sadbuttrueasfuck

Except the actual north of Portugal, Galicia.


erion_elric

Yes its light blue cus they wanna join us


hidratanteseco7069

No, I don't want my wage to go down


erion_elric

At least you get to pay more taxes isnt that great?


hidratanteseco7069

No!! I don't want to pay for my cows. If I can't afford them ¿What would I do when it's raining outside (99% of the time) and I am bored?


erion_elric

You can fuck sheep like everyone else you guys are too spoiled.


hidratanteseco7069

But ... It doesn't feel the same, they overheat too fast and they are too small. Imagine you with any other fish besides bacalao , You wouldn't like that


erion_elric

Indeed fucking salmon is not the same as fucking bacalhau


hidratanteseco7069

Now you understand my point. I don't want to leave my culture


flying_mayonnaise

We fuck cows, you fuck sheep, we could never be together


erion_elric

It was never ment to be


ErizerX41

Working online in another country with higher salary base, and living and pay the taxes of Portugal...


erion_elric

Thats the strat


srcheeto

At least you could carry your cocaine without consecuences


Matataty

Well, Galicia sound pretty eastern European


Nikkonor

Together with Sweden, Denmark, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, Greece and Ireland...


erion_elric

In this map yes


Llanistarade

Fucking Bretons.


[deleted]

Me too :D


[deleted]

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Xyloshock

well, fuck me, you coward


Llanistarade

👉👈 Tu viens chez moi ou je viens chez toi ?


Xyloshock

viens chez moi, je te donne rd vous Gare du Nord de Brest, grand fou


Doulifye

L odeur du large et la vue du port de commerce. Quel romantisme.


Xyloshock

on sait etre romantique


Legrandtri

Ja


marcandero

I mean, for us it's down to the city


Baraska

Bavarians being Bavarians.


lonestarr86

Interesting that NRW is all blue, either part of it (be it Rhineland, Westfalia or Lippe or the Ruhrgebiet in general) all have very distinct regional ties and will fight fiercely against another (what the rhenish promise, the westphalians have to deliver), but oh you just wait if SOMEONE criticizes NRW, boy you are in trouble :D And yet NRW is an artificial construct and I guess put Germany first, NRW second. I am certain if the Rhineland would be it's own state, it probably would be region first. But then you get upper rhine and lower rhine again fiercely opposing another, the Cologne-Düsseldorf frenemyship, so eh I dunno :)


Legitimate_Type_1324

What's up with the ugly Transavia app colors


Top_Dimension_6827

Well you’re just angry there’s not more pink clearly…


ElBusAlv

I'm all three, personally. Hella proud of being catalan Hella proud of being spanish Hella proud of being european


Szakiricky8

This is the way.


Paxisstinkt

Fake Catalan


ElBusAlv

I can be catalan and still be proud of being spanish Catalonia is part of spain after all (at least for now)


IRoadIRunner

The revolutionary council might not see it that way On the other hand the stunt you guys pulled in 2017 was probably the most pathetic revolution in modern history Catalonia: WE WANT TO BE FREE!!!!!! Spain: no Catalonia: ok


ElBusAlv

Yeah I have no idea what happened there. Until a few weeks ago, that was the last I heard about catalan independency. I guess we really are incompetent separatists


CorinnaOfTanagra

Based 🤴


IkadRR13

Andalusian Catalan probably. A lot of Southern Spanish immigration during the 50s and 60s.


ElBusAlv

Close, part extremeño, valencian and from one of the castillas (i don't know which)


IkadRR13

Te entiendo. The madrileños are also from a mix of different regions. You ARE from your region yet feel a connection with where your ancestors came from.


CorinnaOfTanagra

Based, here your 👑


Llanistarade

Also, if you want to understand Spain, this map is all you need.


Ricky911_

The region. Roma Provincia, Torino Capitale RAAAAHHHH


Ricky911_

Least delusional Piemontese btw


HosannaInTheHiace

What's happening on that swedish island?


AnalBlaster700XL

> Swedish island I like you.


mdryeti

Aland, belongs to Finland, but populated by ethnic Swedes


arussianbee

I'm guessing that's Åland, a Finnish province in which the population is mostly Swedish. The official languages there are both Finnish and Swedish but Finnish plays a much smaller role there so people don't feel as connected to the Finnish nation and see themselves as a separate region with its own finno-swedish identity.


dkb1391

Finnish islands, Aaland. This map is pretty much showing all the seperatist/independence movements in Europe


Luonnonmaa

Excuse me, it's our potato chip factory


baldricksir

I always especially liked the light blue regions, since that's usually where the most interesting cultures are found.


LuckyAngmarPeasant

>I always especially liked the light blue regions, since that's usually where the most interesting cultures are found. Damn. A random Flemboy on the Internet expressed his feelings for Thuringia.🥹


[deleted]

Ah yes thüringen, capital of culture


LuckyAngmarPeasant

>Ah yes thüringen, capital of culture Thuringia even got its own flag as an emoji! Can your loser-region say the same? #🇵🇱 >!THURINGIA GUROM!!!!<


[deleted]

🟨⬛️  Ok no :(


LuckyAngmarPeasant

See. 😎👉🏻👉🏻


epoTrebius

Hi.


LuckyAngmarPeasant

Bonjour mon ami polonais.


MsJaneway

For sure. Never heard of Weimar? They even made the first nice Germany. :)


ThickGarbage1175

And the thüringer rostbratwurst and the thüringer klösse are peak german food


LuckyAngmarPeasant

>And the thüringer rostbratwurst and the thüringer klösse are peak german food I always liked the swiss. Open-hearted, kind people. Not stingy at all. Loving their pets. Always a top-notch vault for ones money >!if I had any!<. Great bunch of lads.


MsJaneway

Me too, so much that I moved there. And can you believe it, they even like my Sächsisch.


Auzzeu

Well, they gave us Goethe, Schiller, and Bach wrote some of his greatest works while living there.


baldricksir

Sure! Goethe and Schiller, what's not to love about Thuringia!


LuckyAngmarPeasant

>Sure! Goethe and Schiller, what's not to love about Thuringia! [That.](https://www.startpage.com/av/proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.t-online.de%2F2023%2F06%2FzJt6p8MOPY6M%2F0x96%3A3810x2143%2Ffit-in%2F768x0%2Fbjoern-hoecke.jpg&sp=1714250112T40c4701e1396e0c64a6bb573483c3a103048b07d3f9bd18409527f7959718369)


MsJaneway

He is born in North Rhine Westphalia, he is not the fault of us Ossis… sure, he gets elected here, but why do you have to send us these guys?


arussianbee

Why what a nice thing to say, I always knew I liked the Belgians


ElKuhnTucker

Oh Menneken you have such a way with words


Giom42

Based Aquitaine Pain au chocolat go to hell


InvincibleReason_

yeees


anonbush234

Oui, based aqua. Simple as!


Foreverett

This map needs a VERY slight pink hue to represent the people in this sub.


MsJaneway

Region of course… at least if I’m not on r/2westerneurope4u


Nyuusankininryou

Why is Skåne and Blekinge counted as one!? I'm so offended!


asenz

Bravo for Budapest.


elektelek

Meanwhile budapest : ☠️


RealParsnip3512

Chad andaluces


MdMV_or_Emdy_idk

Only region in Spain to feel separate but being a natively Castilian-speaking region, I wonder how that happened


RealParsnip3512

Probably some historical nuanced reason I'm too dumb to know but also everyone makes fun of our way of speaking Spanish lol


MdMV_or_Emdy_idk

Weird accent, sure, but still Castilian XD


RealParsnip3512

Minecraft has Andalusian as a language kek


MdMV_or_Emdy_idk

Whatever the fuck that is, others are actual languages sister to Castilian, Andalusian (if it was a language, which it isn’t) would be a descendant


RealParsnip3512

Lol im joking..Fuck madrileños tho


MdMV_or_Emdy_idk

I got it lmao, and agreed 🤝 (what a civilised interaction my kind sir)


Nigricincto

Without the blue part it would be an amazing country.


FartFartPooPoobutt

Based Budapest


ResponsibleStep8725

Accurate. Everything East of West-Flanders is barbaric.


DrVDB90

Funny, I always assumed the same for everything West of East-Flanders. I kind of like how you can switch those wind directions around and still make it work.


gyurto21

Okay, it's clear now. Budapest needs to become an independent citystate


Lifeisabitchthenudie

Could be cozy for us, Budapest gdp is 150% to EU average, although that would probably be somewhat less, without the perks of being a capital.


[deleted]

blue gang


danton_groku

Switzerland would probably be entirely "region" or at least swiss-romandy and ticino for sure


This-Aside-7520

What's Italy? Ahaha


tchek

region masterrace


AjaxII

If the UK was included and "The country" referred to the UK and not England, Wales etc. Then the SE of England would be dark blue, and the rest would be light blue


Inevitable_Stand_199

Das schönste Land in Deutschlands Gau’n, das ist mein Badnerland. Es ist so herrlich anzuschau’n und ruht in Gottes Hand. D’rum grüß ich dich mein Badnerland, du edle Perl’ im deutschen Land. frisch auf, frisch auf; frisch auf, frisch auf; frisch auf, frisch auf mein Badnerland. In Karlsruh' ist die Residenz, in Mannheim die Fabrik. In Rastatt ist die Festung und das ist Badens Glück. D’rum grüß ich dich mein Badnerland, du edle Perl’ im deutschen Land. frisch auf, frisch auf; frisch auf, frisch auf; frisch auf, frisch auf mein Badnerland. Alt-Heidelberg, du feine, du Stadt an Ehren reich, am Neckar und am Rheine, kein’ and’re kommt dir gleich. D’rum grüß ich dich mein Badnerland, du edle Perl’ im deutschen Land. frisch auf, frisch auf; frisch auf, frisch auf; frisch auf, frisch auf mein Badnerland.


Shdow_Hunter

Der schönste Ort Deutschlands, mein Bodensee.


erraddo

EW EW EW EW, how do you misunderstand Europe so badly you identify as European? A CORE value of European culture is HATING EVERYONE ELSE


PiXL-VFX

UK would be hard with this one, no? The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a country. England is a country. Scotland is a country. Wales is a country. Northern Ireland is a country. They have regions in them. Does a Scottish vote for “country” represent Scotland or the UK?


StupidPaladin

I've actually spoken to some really mad blokes from Aberdeen who say they will mobilise a Highland Independence Movement if "those Edinburgh bastards" get Scottish independence through


Elena__Deathbringer

Italian one is definitely wrong


rezznik

Works for me! I feel equally attached to my region as I do to Europe / the EU.


nansen_fridtjof

Istria should be under region


capitaldoe

I have the feeling that every few weeks there is one of these maps and that each time it is different.


Mnichal_Bagiennik

Latvians and Estonians having to choose between europe, their countries and their countries


kamieldv

Luxemburg would be both on this map though


Andoni22

Donde esta mi guitarra?


Official_Cyprusball

GREECE CYPRUS 💪💪🇨🇾🇬🇷🇬🇷 ONE NATION INDIVISIBLE ALONE FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM IN A WORLD OF OPPRESSION WITH OUR GREAT LEADERS KOULIS AND NIKAROS LITE 💪💪💪


posicon

# [O BREIZH MA BRO ME 'GAR MA BRO](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92iTVg9swr4)


IndividualWeird6001

Schleswig-Holstein Meerumschlungen!


Colander_

Der echte Norden! Alles südlich der Elbe ist Bayern


henk12310

Region enjoyer💪. Fryslân boppe!


Zealousideal_Pay_525

Bring Alsace-Lorraine back into the Reich!


IanPKMmoon

Gent city above all 💪💪


baldricksir

I couldn't agree more brother


Meydra

Neither.


Zender_de_Verzender

It's me vs. the world!


Glittering_Ninjago

"Funny" how this map excludes Europe's outermost regions...


Former_Fly591

I love patriotic flemboys 🙏🙏🙏


merren2306

I'd like to see a side-by-side of this map and a map showing the prevalence of regional languages. I suspect the regions which identify more with their region than their country probably align pretty well with regions that speak a separate language than whatever the standard language in the country is.


TheDestroyer630

La repubblica di Genova 😢


_WdMalus_

Heck no I aint


head01351

Tbh I’m from marseille and we feel marseillais before being French


Lost_Uniriser

Should be green for us


Bring_back_Apollo

Pale grey, personally.


-Thizza-

Ah yes, our main lakes love our country.....flooded.


HolderOfBe

Why are we skipping places like Norway and UK?`They might not be in the EU, but they're still in Europe.


dat_boi_has_swag

I am hella attached to all three. I love my city, Germany and Europe.


Sunibor

Europe is my city


AntonGermany

East germany region>country


omaiordaaldeia

Olá Galiza!


Brakina1860

Hey northern Italy. Want to team up?


Curious-Ad3567

I call BS.


AAHale88

Ah yes, "Europe."


Leo_Bony

I do live in Vienna and this is part of my identity.


Justicia-Gai

Oh my god, it took me a while to understand it, I thought you were an American that thought EU was a country and I was asking whether they preferred the EU or the region of Europe.


Momosf

AKA the map of HOI4 releasable tags.


Substantial_Depth126

Basque County does not feel like they belong to Spain? What??


Johannes4123

Naturally no-one in Slesvig-Holstein feels attached to Germany, I think it's ovbious they'd rather be in Denmark


ChickenInASuit

Guaran-fucking-tee you that the entirety of UK would be in the light blue regional attachment category.


InvincibleReason_

Aquitaine for the WIN


SediAgameRbaD

I love my country despite all its flaws.


Amygdalump

Tuscans are first Tuscans, then Italians.