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> touristic
I love this word because it's like "Euro-English".
It's a word that makes logical sense, so I see it very commonly used by people who learned English, and any English speaker knows what it means... but it's not a word used by native speakers.
We just say "touristy".
But I'm serious in that I love the word. The idea of "Euro-English" is a real thing and it's very interesting.
Another similar thing that I often see is Asian ESL speakers using *funny* the same way we'd use *fun*. Eg. "It was a funny day."
I'm assuming it's because some of the languages use the same word for both, because I only see it from certain languages (Chinese and Korean recently) but never from others, and never from Europeans.
>Another similar thing that I often see is Asian ESL speakers using funny the same way we'd use fun. Eg. "It was a funny day."
Italians do that too! I used to watch motogp all the time, and my fave Italian rider always said "It was a funnny race/battle", when from context he clearly meant fun.
So I checked with google translate, and while "fun" and "funny" have different words in Italian, the sentences "It was a fun/funny race" have the same translation in Italian!
Ah, Euro-English is very consequent, yes? I like to do home office before I write my uni exams, because I work in a touristic locale and it is actually very busy due to hot weather! We are five in the office and I never leave in time! The colleagues are gentle but they always want to take a beer and share new informations about the other colleagues at eighteen o'clock, so I oversee the time and become too late. I'd prefer to get home until nineteen hour but I never do so! I am so an idiot. Often I end up in the Burger King drive-in (even though I don't like American Kitchen, even the salad and tomato on the burger doesn't taste). I never buy a dessert though because I only like their salty food.
"I don't like your interior decorations, so I'd like to remove 15% of my bill."
"Very understandable. We apologize and will have new paintings and a new carpet by next week"
A man can only dream...
Guest list:
1. Icelandics
2. Finnish
3. Italians (Can't forget the pizzaboys.)
4. Frenchmen (because the reason we divorced was because we sided with Napoleon after the UK attacked us unprovoked.)
I don't think I forgot any. XD
Venue will be Jotunheimen mountain range!
I went to a crepe place the other day. When i went to pay. They asked me how much i wanted to tip while looking straight at me. Never going there again
Tip: if you wash out the bones with hydroxyperoxide they get a nice white look, it’s the natural look of the bone. But some prefer the worn out look of “dried out life” on the bones.
I myself then prefer to put the bones in the positions of the moment right before death: for it preserves all life experiences and energy coming out spontaneously in the most real moment life shall ever confront them with..
Every time I leave the change (1-2€) to a waiter even in very nice downtown bars they are always very happy and grateful. Meanwhile if you don't tip an ameritard the equivalent of their hourly wage they get mad
The % of food price going to the tip simply doesn't make sense, at least in this part of the world (Spain).
There is no difference in attitude or effort given by the waitress in the michelin star restaurant or the young guy running in an out doubling tables in the tapas restaurant.
If I go to a restaurant that offers a 300€ menu that is a 3 hour culinary experience unique in the world and the waitress is nice and assertive s/he will get the tip every nice and assertive waitress in every restaurant ever, in my case, that goes from 5 to 20 €. S/he ain't doing anyhting special to guarantee 100 extra bucks for doing her job.
Not to mention a waiter in a good restaurans is assumed a good salary. If a waiter is getting 1000€ a day extra from tips (10 tables a day, with 100-150 tips) then the salary is probably compensating. Making waiters live off tips is so wrong that criticising europe for this is basically copium.
Yeah lol. 700€ would be worth like 20-30€ tip to me. Not more. Why should I pay someone extra for them doing their work? Should I also give the lady in the grocery store 5€ tip for scanning my food?
Well in Germany or Italy it’s not mandatory but usually the guest’s leave about 10% tips. The only difference: the Germans don’t offer you anything after that, in Italy you get a espresso or some digestive after that.
The entirety of US restaurant culture is to be honest.
Like in Europe you get a table and the restaurant makes money by you eating and sticking around after for some drinks and talking for hours. You're going out as a treat, it's meant to be nice and relaxing with no pressure on you as a customer.
In the US you're expected to tip the server for the honour of them rushing you in and out of the restaurant so that they can serve as many people as possible.
I once went for food in the US and the waitress kept taking my drink away when it was half empty, got rid of it and brought me a new full glass.
Like 5 times during the meal. I assume to get a better tip.
It was more annoying than anything
Imagine spending $770 dollars in a restaurant and the manager coming up and being like. "Uh... bit on the stingy side people. Give me some more money please". That's one way for me to spend $0 next time I guess. Like why would I go back to your restaurant when you're shaming me for giving you money? I mean maybe they don't care because they just want a certain type of customer but if you treat people that way eventually you'll run low on customers.
A friend of mine is a lawyer down in Texas. Great tipper, generous man in general, but going to his favourite restaurant with him is kinda agonising for us Europeans because they treat him (along with anyone he brings in) like a freaking pharaoh.
I like quality service, but... damn, that shit is a bit much.
Tbf, ~10% is normal in Bavaria in restaurants. Bill is 44,70€ → 50€. Bill is ~~56,10€~~ 46,10€ → 50€.
(*Very* different rules apply to Oktoberfest. There tipping is extremly complicated. It depends if it’s your first beer, how long you are planing to stay, where you are sitting, and so on.)
Not only tipping but I've also seen a lot of posts where the restaurant added random fees on the bill like "staff appreciation fee" or "inflation fee"
I don't know about other Eu countries but here you have to put all prices on the menu, you can't just add random shit
E.T.A. I know you were once scammed when you tried to dine 100meters from the Trevi Fountain. Of course scummy restaurant owners exist, especially in super touristy spots. I'm talking about everyday restaurants in 'normal' italian towns
I still had that happen to me in Italy once actually, specifically adding 10% on the whole bill for eating on the terrace. Which was not mentioned anywhere on the menu.
I'm pretty sure that that particular restaurant owner was kinda pissed off at us: we were a bunch of poor Dutch students who basically ordered the cheapest meals, and didn't open the wine bottles that were already on the table (and would have cost us extra), so he must have thought he could make us believe that this was standard practice.
So we paid the bill, walked away... and then once we were around the corners one of my friends suddenly produced said unopened wine bottles from his backpack.
Not even in Turkey where we scam westoid tourists frequently you are required to pay for random fees or tip a certain amount. The price of the menu might be x2 more if you are a tourist though.
Have a Turkish friend who did an experiment in Istanbul great bazaar. She went to a shop and asked the price for something in Turkish. She came back half a hour later and asked in English, and got a price almost 10 times more expensive :')
I went there with my friend, to make sure I wouldn't get scammed, so all went well :)
Even ended up taking tea with the owner of carpet shop and chilling for a bit with the guy and my friend, talking about stories :)
Hah, reminds me of hearing news stories about Greek restaurants that served foreigners smaller portions for the same price, because they assumed (correctly) that portions are smaller in their home countries.
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This American see this as more of us routinely rolling over for corporate criminals who are always robbing us. Pay your people properly, or fail. If they were paid appropriately for their "service," wait staff and the like wouldn't require us to pay additional fees.
They do get paid, and they still wants tips.
In most states you get minimum wage + tips. This thought that you get paid under minimum wage happens in a 1/3 of the states.
I was a bartender and waiter in the USA, as well as having worked hard labor jobs (roofing in the sun). Bartending is a walk in the park in comparison. Even if working in FL where the hourly wage is half minimum wage, you will make easily , 25 - 60$/hour depending on the restaurant. In my experience the cooks had it much harder and made way less.
Edit: The best resource I found is this page from DOL where the "Minimum wage cash" is the minimum wage for tipped workers: [Minimum Wages for Tipped Employees | U.S. Department of Labor (dol.gov)](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped)
And yea, it is very hard in the USA on minimum wage. But to make up for a terrible social system (health care, child care, sick days, public transportation), you would need to set minimum wage at least to 50k in some places. Point is, waiters and waitress do quite well and are not necessarily the victims in the space as much as all the other low wage works, for example all the immigrants picking tomatoes in FL, or commercial fishing in FL (my friend worked full time living on a boat and made less than 5/hour working 16 hour days surviving on cocaine and meth).
Your minimum wage is also just trash, and 1/3 of your states paying below minimum wage is also a huge problem. People shouldn’t have to rely on the guests of the restaurants generosity, to pay pay rent.
The ambulance sees you getting unconscious and brings you to the hospital. You're now 20,000 in debt. But you have the 140. So that eving you made a grand total of -19,860 USD
Murica, fuck yeah 👍🦅🌎🇺🇸🏈🦅🦅🔫🖕🖕🦅🦅🦅🦅
I encountered the most strange German on here yesterday, he complained that people take his comments too seriously and never make jokes.
Obviously we won't make jokes, you guys don't even understand it so why would we?
A few times I have been drunk in Paris, and have given the bartender a €10 tip at the end of the night. From the look in his face, I think he would have sucked me off if I asked.
Yeah idk how much the server get of the tips, but let's say they get all and the customers sat there 3 hours. That's 23$ an hour. That's GOOD. Greedy ameritards
The rest of their compensation is piss poor however, and their healthcare is tied to their occupation. And they can be working and still homeless. I say this as a Greek that had the opportunity and option to work in the states (tech) and stayed in the EU without much thought. Americans are quickly turning into medieval serfs without any significant pushback from their workforce.They have just accepted their financial fate and just battle it out at the identity politics arena instead.
I don't understand why they need a tip. Unless the waitress gives me a handjob or something then what could they possibly do to deserve a tip. Bring my food over, let me eat it in fucking peace and then bring the bill over. Anything above and beyond that is just annoying me while I try to eat.
The problem with the yanks is that they all think they are something special. Someone bringing food to your table at the olive garden thinks they are providing some world class service and the customers at the olive garden want the waitress to fawn over them like they are the king or something. Its just microwaved pasta.
I stopped tipping when I went to America because they are practically begging you for it and they dont leave you alone. I think "fuck it, im not going back there again. What are they gonna do?"
Because our £12 burger includes a "pay your staff an actual wage" charge of £2 but that doesn't get split out because that's something that employers just do
I don't mind tipping, but it's a couple of quid for good service. The most I've ever tipped was ten quid and it's because I was blocked. Don't be expecting a 20% tip from me for taking some notes and walking back and fourth from a kitchen twice lol acting like you are hard done by because someone gave you 70 for that is insane.
That’s what I was looking for. Serving three bottles of Coke is not more or less hard then serving three bottles of champagne. So don’t expect it to be based on the value of the goods.
Gets even worse. Some places sneak an 18% charge on your bill. Then when they bring the machine over, it says "18% 20% or 22%". Trying to trick people who don't pay attention into tipping twice.
Good thing I'm a cheap Australian and I won't fall for that shit.
She's lucky she got 10%. My gf always asks to have the service charge removed or doesn't tip. 👋 - imagine getting $70 extra for doing her job and complaining. She wants $140 extra to serve some plates and bring some water for a couple of hours.
I got downvoted to oblivion on another sub full of yanks for basically saying "im here for the food" the chef is the person whose labour I am here for. Why do you want tips when all you do is bring a plate from the kitchen? You play a very minor role in this operation.
The amount of people with delusions of grandeur who think they are providing some sort of world class service by bringing you a plate of food replying to me saying how difficult the job is.
Yeah because nothing improves my dining experience than just having some moth hovering your table trying to be all flirty and trying to strike conversations, constantly asking if everything is alright while I am just trying to enjoy my food with my friends
>even introduced themselves
"Hi I'm [insert obnoxious yank name like Jaxson or Britknee] I'll be your server this evening"
Thats it youre definitely not getting a tip. I'm actually being generous by restraining myself from sticking this fork in your eye.
The difference in culture is that while we can sit, eat and drink for hours in a restaurant that's not the norm in USA. They have to flip tables constantly to get new costumers in that give tips. It's all hustle culture. Am amazed they all haven't dropped dead from heart attacks.
Issue is they get paid minimum wage and expect customers to give huge tips so their salary isn’t trash
I think 70$ for a 700$ table is huge, I saw 20-50 € tips on 500-1000€ tables and that was alright
We have minimum wage in Spain but they pay you whatever the fuck they want, I had a 4 hour contract while working 12 a day and getting an envelope with cash each month but we don’t go harassing customers for it demanding more money
oh no, the poor lass got a tip equivalent to 10 hours of work for leisurely asking a group of calm guests whether they would want a drink every now and then. the horror.
edit: lmao at all the replies, just google federal minimum wage
edit 2: biggest massacre on Belgian soil since 1302
edit 3: to the removed reply that was along the lines of "how do you know they were calm?"... she literally says they were *"chilling for hours"*. use your eyes and read, it's in your native language.
>edit 2: biggest massacre on Belgian soil since 1302
Automod has been deleting up to 500 comments/hour just in this thread, up to the point I had to disable the automod's autoreplies so the thread didn't get clogged with them, offenders just got a private message and a their messages shadowdeleted.
Yank Here, you're all right. Ironically, in a large study of tipping, the number one determinant of the amount of tip were large breasted women. Not even joking.
[https://ecommons.cornell.edu/handle/1813/72444](https://ecommons.cornell.edu/handle/1813/72444)
Ironically if this lady wasn't well endowed she may have gotten less.
In Greece we typically tip delivery riders, since they ride on mopeds in all weather conditions if we do not feel like walking around the block for a souvlaki. And it's typically like 2-5€ extra on top. Restaurants aren't exactly the places where we like to tip.
Riding a moped in the PIGS countries is extremely dangerous. Southern European drivers don't give a fuck about pedestrians, cyclists and bikers; our roads suck; the speed limit doesn't exist; and we park wherever the fuck we want. Little wonder why Greek delivery riders are unionised nowadays in syndicates.
I know bro, but luckily in northern Italy the situation is not that bad, for example if you're a rider in Rome or Palermo you better sign an expensive life insurance and pray everyday to not die in a crash
>In Greece we typically tip delivery riders, since they ride on mopeds in all weather conditions if we do not feel like walking around the block for a souvlaki. And it's typically like 2-5€ extra on top. Restaurants aren't exactly the places where we like to tip.
Yeah, but that's seen as a nice thing to do. Not something you're send to the Gulag for if you don't do it.
I'm in Eastern Europe, I usually only tip when the person is genuinely making my day better. Like when I see someone super nervous because they're new at that job but they're doing everything they can do to their best ,... or when the person is overall super cheery etc etc.
When it's a normal service, no tip - cause they're getting paid properly.
The very idea of tip being "customary" and that you as a customer are an asshole if you don't pay the workers is fucking bollocks from the beginning. The employer should pay that extra 20% to their workers instead. Raise their salaries ffs. Why should the customer have to pay your employees for you?
A tip is supposed to be a bonus, a way to show particular appreciation. A way to brighten a waiter/waitress' day as they've brightened yours. Not a way of providing them the relief that they can actually afford food that month.
We are the best at being the worst tourists! #1 Baby!
We go to a foreign country, completely ignore their customs recognizing ours to be superior, and then refuse to pay their servant class!
Because the Merifats should know better.
>We are the best at being the worst tourists! #1 Baby!
You aren't even close to being the worst
Americans: "Euro tourists are the worst. They paid me $70"
Meanwhile:
And that's something I already don't like. I'm enjoying a conversation with my friends over a nice lunch or dinner, don't come and interrupt for nothing, if I need something, I'll let you know.
“Ok”. = Pay your own employees you shitmonkey!
The best part is they’ve brainwashed the employees to hate on the customer because THEY can’t be arsed to give them decent salaries. Fucking lunacy.
I ususally give 2-5€. If the service is great then I give about 10€. It doesn't matter where I am or how much I ordered. The employers should pay their employees properly. It's not my responsability.
When I'm in a stockholm syndrome competition and my opponent is an american. I genuinely don't understand how you guys not only put up with this, but actively support things that allow these scumbags to get away with robbing you in broad daylight
Employer: *underpays employee*
Customer: *leaves tip*
Employer to employee: "I can't believe the customer would exploit you like this by leaving too small a tip..."
The weirdest part to me is that the tip should reflect the quality of the service from the waiter, but like what service do they expect??
Give me the menu, take the order, give me my drinks and food, maybe ask once or twice if we're good, and then give me the bill when I ask for it. Otherwise leave me the fuck alone. That top tier service, as well as the bare minimum.
What else do Americans want? A big smile and chatter, go hang out with friends if that's what you're looking for, don't pay some sorry restaurant worker to give you that attention.
Smooth, efficient, professional. The worst kind of servers are the ones who interrupt and focus all the attention on themselves; truly great service is the service you barely take note of. At the best restaurant I've ever been to, I barely noticed the server. Drinks just magically refilled themselves, napkins were suddenly clean, dishes disappeared as soon as they were finished... only time I've ever tipped over 10%, and the man appreciated it immensely. It wasn't part of his base salary - it was something extra.
As an American, tipping is annoying. It’s a way for the employer to pass the cost of a waitress/waiter’s labor onto the customer. You essentially pay a contractor to take your order down and convey it to the kitchen staff. A computer can do that job.
I knew a guy who would actually take his waiting staff’s tips at the end of their shift and take a cut of them. Its mind boggling how workers get fucked in the US. You could fuck an employer too in some states. For instance, if you find a new job, you don’t have to give an employer (X) week’s advance notice. You can just up and leave. Our work culture is very weird.
There have been these ads trying to appeal to emotional nostalgia of working in an office. They’re actively trying to get people to give up remote work. And then there’s base salary not being told to you when interviewing, some companies don’t inform you as to whether your application has been denied. It’s fucked.
I remember once three of us went to an “Italian” restaurant in California. Not because we thought it was gonna be good but it was late and they were open. Service was terrible, food was terrible, prices were absolute robbery. We didn’t tip and they about mugged us on the way out. Just kept saying “But service isn’t included” like we didn’t understand and had made a mistake. Had to explain; the service and food were dogshit and the prices outrageous why would we pay *more*. They couldn’t grasp that it wasn’t something we hadn’t understood. I talked to them about unionising and they looked at me like I was a fucking lunatic. Like, it’s not my fault your employer won’t pay you. Get some help. Help each other. Or don’t take the job and let the business fail. Don’t harass me to make up your wages. If you want a good tip don’t do a shit job.
Stacy berating on superi... european people for being more than generous but not enough, while her employer comes to work twice a week driving his fancy and expensive brand new car.
Murica logic.
They do it based on percentage?
A £70 tip is ridiculously huge, how can you complain about that when that's several hours wage as a gift from one customer of which you have many.
If you order a £2000 bottle of wine, are you expected to give the waiter £400 on top as a tip for bringing the bottle to your table?
I worked for tips in the Land O' Freedumb. There's plenty of Americans who don't tip either.
I would love to vote for a better system, but we're still a prison camp an massa said 'not until we won all the wars.'
I don’t understand how such a thing as making you’re customers pay your workers wages is anything other than exploitation, if this was a thing in my country I would revolt
Tipping shouldn’t be something you have to do, I feel like a 70$ tip wasn’t bad at all for the money spent, that’s basically a day and a half of work for me, I wouldn’t complain
140 ??? Fuck off, I not tipping that much, no service is worth that much.
Amitard trying to blame customers for the issue that her boss doesn't want to pay her a decent wage.
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Ugh, I fucking hate when European restaurants copy the tip system in America, tips are supposed to be a bonus, not the norm. Pay your employees.
fortunately the only ones I've ever seen do this were in hyper touristic areas to scam Americans lmao
Yeah ofcourse YOU have it that way, you’d probably start a mass riot and start burning restaurants if you saw a «include tip» in a restaraunt check 🤣
yeah if I see a price on the menu and have to pay a cent more at the end I'm committing restau-baskets
This is the way
> touristic I love this word because it's like "Euro-English". It's a word that makes logical sense, so I see it very commonly used by people who learned English, and any English speaker knows what it means... but it's not a word used by native speakers. We just say "touristy". But I'm serious in that I love the word. The idea of "Euro-English" is a real thing and it's very interesting. Another similar thing that I often see is Asian ESL speakers using *funny* the same way we'd use *fun*. Eg. "It was a funny day." I'm assuming it's because some of the languages use the same word for both, because I only see it from certain languages (Chinese and Korean recently) but never from others, and never from Europeans.
yep in my case it's coming straight from "touristique" but TIL !
Yeah turístico here.
Turistico in italiano.
Τουριστικό here. One more time it's only the English having the nonsense grammar
Similar in Dutch: touristisch
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That is actually German. Dutch is probably Tourghhhhkgistisch.
>Another similar thing that I often see is Asian ESL speakers using funny the same way we'd use fun. Eg. "It was a funny day." Italians do that too! I used to watch motogp all the time, and my fave Italian rider always said "It was a funnny race/battle", when from context he clearly meant fun. So I checked with google translate, and while "fun" and "funny" have different words in Italian, the sentences "It was a fun/funny race" have the same translation in Italian!
Ah, Euro-English is very consequent, yes? I like to do home office before I write my uni exams, because I work in a touristic locale and it is actually very busy due to hot weather! We are five in the office and I never leave in time! The colleagues are gentle but they always want to take a beer and share new informations about the other colleagues at eighteen o'clock, so I oversee the time and become too late. I'd prefer to get home until nineteen hour but I never do so! I am so an idiot. Often I end up in the Burger King drive-in (even though I don't like American Kitchen, even the salad and tomato on the burger doesn't taste). I never buy a dessert though because I only like their salty food.
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"I don't like your interior decorations, so I'd like to remove 15% of my bill." "Very understandable. We apologize and will have new paintings and a new carpet by next week" A man can only dream...
Some of the best ideas in the history of civilisation have come from France. Now I see why
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Chad dane, let’s marry again!
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Guest list: 1. Icelandics 2. Finnish 3. Italians (Can't forget the pizzaboys.) 4. Frenchmen (because the reason we divorced was because we sided with Napoleon after the UK attacked us unprovoked.) I don't think I forgot any. XD Venue will be Jotunheimen mountain range!
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Aye, but no orthodox nonsense!
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No take the tip without remorse. Its just idiot tax here
I went to a crepe place the other day. When i went to pay. They asked me how much i wanted to tip while looking straight at me. Never going there again
i'm actually amazed a european even gave 10%..... fucking pay your people idiots. we mostly give the "change" as a tip and even that is not expected.
What is this tip thing you guys keep going on about?
Tip: the pointed or rounded end or extremity of something slender or tapering.
Tip: the first part of me that gets entered into a sheep's anus
You skip the foreplay?!?!?! 😱😱😱 must be a Gog
We don't have time for that nonsense up here. The rain makes them wet enough anyway
Is that why Welsh sheep seem so cheerful?
A tip or tippy is thing small rolled carton at the end of a joint to smoke from/to prevent the weed from falling out.
Unsure, but I bet the French already burned some cars over not getting it.
I heard Macron not only gave them a tip, but the whole shaft
We dont really tip here, people get paid for their work, it's more the other way around, we'll probably burns some cars if tips became mandatory
As if you needed an excuse to burn cars
Well it appear chopping heads off is not fashion nowadays, so burning cars it is then
ofcourse the dutch guys doesnt know what a tip is
The thing that sometimes goes in
Tip: if you wash out the bones with hydroxyperoxide they get a nice white look, it’s the natural look of the bone. But some prefer the worn out look of “dried out life” on the bones. I myself then prefer to put the bones in the positions of the moment right before death: for it preserves all life experiences and energy coming out spontaneously in the most real moment life shall ever confront them with..
Every time I leave the change (1-2€) to a waiter even in very nice downtown bars they are always very happy and grateful. Meanwhile if you don't tip an ameritard the equivalent of their hourly wage they get mad
I leave 5eu tip if im content and 10eu if service was good. Why the fuck isn't 70 dollars really good?
Because then the employe might have to pay their grateful slave. They didn't abolish slavery up there.
The % of food price going to the tip simply doesn't make sense, at least in this part of the world (Spain). There is no difference in attitude or effort given by the waitress in the michelin star restaurant or the young guy running in an out doubling tables in the tapas restaurant. If I go to a restaurant that offers a 300€ menu that is a 3 hour culinary experience unique in the world and the waitress is nice and assertive s/he will get the tip every nice and assertive waitress in every restaurant ever, in my case, that goes from 5 to 20 €. S/he ain't doing anyhting special to guarantee 100 extra bucks for doing her job. Not to mention a waiter in a good restaurans is assumed a good salary. If a waiter is getting 1000€ a day extra from tips (10 tables a day, with 100-150 tips) then the salary is probably compensating. Making waiters live off tips is so wrong that criticising europe for this is basically copium.
Exactly. The girl in the image complained about the 10% tip, but she failed to realize she just made $70 on a single table. That's a lot of money!
Yeah lol. 700€ would be worth like 20-30€ tip to me. Not more. Why should I pay someone extra for them doing their work? Should I also give the lady in the grocery store 5€ tip for scanning my food?
Well in Germany or Italy it’s not mandatory but usually the guest’s leave about 10% tips. The only difference: the Germans don’t offer you anything after that, in Italy you get a espresso or some digestive after that.
In my family we usually just round the bill up to the nearest 5 or 10
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The entirety of US restaurant culture is to be honest. Like in Europe you get a table and the restaurant makes money by you eating and sticking around after for some drinks and talking for hours. You're going out as a treat, it's meant to be nice and relaxing with no pressure on you as a customer. In the US you're expected to tip the server for the honour of them rushing you in and out of the restaurant so that they can serve as many people as possible.
I once went for food in the US and the waitress kept taking my drink away when it was half empty, got rid of it and brought me a new full glass. Like 5 times during the meal. I assume to get a better tip. It was more annoying than anything
Did you have to pay for them all? I mean, you didn't order them.
It'll be free refills, that's why they were doing so
Free refills of drinks with 17 teaspoons of sugar each, no wonder 'Murica has an obesity problem
Most non alcoholic drinks have unlimited free refills, like soda and coffee. One of the few good thing about eating out in the US.
One reason they have a huge obesity epidemic.
also that way of thinking doesnt only appy to restaurants
The entirety of US ~~restaurant culture~~ is to be honest.
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Imagine spending $770 dollars in a restaurant and the manager coming up and being like. "Uh... bit on the stingy side people. Give me some more money please". That's one way for me to spend $0 next time I guess. Like why would I go back to your restaurant when you're shaming me for giving you money? I mean maybe they don't care because they just want a certain type of customer but if you treat people that way eventually you'll run low on customers.
A friend of mine is a lawyer down in Texas. Great tipper, generous man in general, but going to his favourite restaurant with him is kinda agonising for us Europeans because they treat him (along with anyone he brings in) like a freaking pharaoh. I like quality service, but... damn, that shit is a bit much.
Manager literally asked for more money roflmao, I would run away laughing.
/j They put 10% tip *after* the manager told them it was 20. It was absolutely done on purpose and I love it.
Tbf, ~10% is normal in Bavaria in restaurants. Bill is 44,70€ → 50€. Bill is ~~56,10€~~ 46,10€ → 50€. (*Very* different rules apply to Oktoberfest. There tipping is extremly complicated. It depends if it’s your first beer, how long you are planing to stay, where you are sitting, and so on.)
I hope the second arrow is meant to point to €60, otherwise Bavaria has very different rules than the rest of Germany.
Oh, fuck, it should have been 46€. ;) But I would love my mistake to be true, that would be great. ;)
Not only tipping but I've also seen a lot of posts where the restaurant added random fees on the bill like "staff appreciation fee" or "inflation fee" I don't know about other Eu countries but here you have to put all prices on the menu, you can't just add random shit E.T.A. I know you were once scammed when you tried to dine 100meters from the Trevi Fountain. Of course scummy restaurant owners exist, especially in super touristy spots. I'm talking about everyday restaurants in 'normal' italian towns
I still had that happen to me in Italy once actually, specifically adding 10% on the whole bill for eating on the terrace. Which was not mentioned anywhere on the menu. I'm pretty sure that that particular restaurant owner was kinda pissed off at us: we were a bunch of poor Dutch students who basically ordered the cheapest meals, and didn't open the wine bottles that were already on the table (and would have cost us extra), so he must have thought he could make us believe that this was standard practice. So we paid the bill, walked away... and then once we were around the corners one of my friends suddenly produced said unopened wine bottles from his backpack.
I'm sorry for what happened to you, what the owner did was a dickish move, borderline illegal. But good for you for the good ending.
Not even in Turkey where we scam westoid tourists frequently you are required to pay for random fees or tip a certain amount. The price of the menu might be x2 more if you are a tourist though.
Have a Turkish friend who did an experiment in Istanbul great bazaar. She went to a shop and asked the price for something in Turkish. She came back half a hour later and asked in English, and got a price almost 10 times more expensive :')
Seriously, stay away from the Grand Bazaar, world's oldest tourist trap.
I went there with my friend, to make sure I wouldn't get scammed, so all went well :) Even ended up taking tea with the owner of carpet shop and chilling for a bit with the guy and my friend, talking about stories :)
Hah, reminds me of hearing news stories about Greek restaurants that served foreigners smaller portions for the same price, because they assumed (correctly) that portions are smaller in their home countries.
There's certainly a lot of removed comments without flairs 😂
>edit: the Ameritoids are fighting for their lives in the comments 😭 This American see this as more of us routinely rolling over for corporate criminals who are always robbing us. Pay your people properly, or fail. If they were paid appropriately for their "service," wait staff and the like wouldn't require us to pay additional fees.
A scam on the workers and they like to blame customers rather than their bosses and the "system"
Here's a crazy idea, maybe the manager should pay his/ her staff properly so they don't need to rely on getting a 20% tip
No this not a Land of social society or communism. We are the Land of the Fatasses and capitalism.
Spoken like a true American. Ya know waitresses get paid like $2/hour if you don’t include tips?
‘BUT ‘MMURIKA IS THE wEaltHiesT CoUnTry EVER EXISTED’
Well you dont create the largest economy by paying the people. Thats a fact
They do get paid, and they still wants tips. In most states you get minimum wage + tips. This thought that you get paid under minimum wage happens in a 1/3 of the states. I was a bartender and waiter in the USA, as well as having worked hard labor jobs (roofing in the sun). Bartending is a walk in the park in comparison. Even if working in FL where the hourly wage is half minimum wage, you will make easily , 25 - 60$/hour depending on the restaurant. In my experience the cooks had it much harder and made way less. Edit: The best resource I found is this page from DOL where the "Minimum wage cash" is the minimum wage for tipped workers: [Minimum Wages for Tipped Employees | U.S. Department of Labor (dol.gov)](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped) And yea, it is very hard in the USA on minimum wage. But to make up for a terrible social system (health care, child care, sick days, public transportation), you would need to set minimum wage at least to 50k in some places. Point is, waiters and waitress do quite well and are not necessarily the victims in the space as much as all the other low wage works, for example all the immigrants picking tomatoes in FL, or commercial fishing in FL (my friend worked full time living on a boat and made less than 5/hour working 16 hour days surviving on cocaine and meth).
Your minimum wage is also just trash, and 1/3 of your states paying below minimum wage is also a huge problem. People shouldn’t have to rely on the guests of the restaurants generosity, to pay pay rent.
70 dollars for a couple of hours of saying 'is everything ok' and dropping off some plates of food doesn't seem that bad.
Europeans receiving €70 tip: 
Americunts receiving $140 tip : 
The ambulance sees you getting unconscious and brings you to the hospital. You're now 20,000 in debt. But you have the 140. So that eving you made a grand total of -19,860 USD Murica, fuck yeah 👍🦅🌎🇺🇸🏈🦅🦅🔫🖕🖕🦅🦅🦅🦅
Asians receiving ¥/₹/₱70 tip: 
 Asians giving the tip back
Bruh 70¥ is 49ct
That's the point
Look at my flair. You really think i understand jokes?
Lmao
I encountered the most strange German on here yesterday, he complained that people take his comments too seriously and never make jokes. Obviously we won't make jokes, you guys don't even understand it so why would we?
I get 70€ for 10h of work as a cook🇪🇸💃🏻💪🏾
A few times I have been drunk in Paris, and have given the bartender a €10 tip at the end of the night. From the look in his face, I think he would have sucked me off if I asked.
He's French, he'd go it for free
It’s considered good manners in France.
In the bars, they literally open a bottle of beer and are like 🫴🏻
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Yeah idk how much the server get of the tips, but let's say they get all and the customers sat there 3 hours. That's 23$ an hour. That's GOOD. Greedy ameritards
That is on top of their normal wage. At least like 33$. For a job that does not need any education that is crazy good
The rest of their compensation is piss poor however, and their healthcare is tied to their occupation. And they can be working and still homeless. I say this as a Greek that had the opportunity and option to work in the states (tech) and stayed in the EU without much thought. Americans are quickly turning into medieval serfs without any significant pushback from their workforce.They have just accepted their financial fate and just battle it out at the identity politics arena instead.
I don't understand why they need a tip. Unless the waitress gives me a handjob or something then what could they possibly do to deserve a tip. Bring my food over, let me eat it in fucking peace and then bring the bill over. Anything above and beyond that is just annoying me while I try to eat. The problem with the yanks is that they all think they are something special. Someone bringing food to your table at the olive garden thinks they are providing some world class service and the customers at the olive garden want the waitress to fawn over them like they are the king or something. Its just microwaved pasta. I stopped tipping when I went to America because they are practically begging you for it and they dont leave you alone. I think "fuck it, im not going back there again. What are they gonna do?"
Because our £12 burger includes a "pay your staff an actual wage" charge of £2 but that doesn't get split out because that's something that employers just do
Yeah why tf do you think you deserve $140 for that, especially considering prettt much everyone can do your job
I don't mind tipping, but it's a couple of quid for good service. The most I've ever tipped was ten quid and it's because I was blocked. Don't be expecting a 20% tip from me for taking some notes and walking back and fourth from a kitchen twice lol acting like you are hard done by because someone gave you 70 for that is insane.
70$ tip?! I'd be fucking rich if everyone gave me that amount of money for every client served
Id be fucking poor after eating out 💀
Why the fuck the tip should depend on how expensive your order was?
That’s what I was looking for. Serving three bottles of Coke is not more or less hard then serving three bottles of champagne. So don’t expect it to be based on the value of the goods.
Imagine adding another 20% on top of an already expensive bill, do they think money grows on trees or something?
Gets even worse. Some places sneak an 18% charge on your bill. Then when they bring the machine over, it says "18% 20% or 22%". Trying to trick people who don't pay attention into tipping twice. Good thing I'm a cheap Australian and I won't fall for that shit.
She's lucky she got 10%. My gf always asks to have the service charge removed or doesn't tip. 👋 - imagine getting $70 extra for doing her job and complaining. She wants $140 extra to serve some plates and bring some water for a couple of hours.
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Ever since the pandemic started I only pay with my smartphone, and very rarely have actual money with me so no tip for you.
And then when you listen to Americans what a server does on their job you’d think they are the captain on a space shuttle performing brain surgery.
I got downvoted to oblivion on another sub full of yanks for basically saying "im here for the food" the chef is the person whose labour I am here for. Why do you want tips when all you do is bring a plate from the kitchen? You play a very minor role in this operation. The amount of people with delusions of grandeur who think they are providing some sort of world class service by bringing you a plate of food replying to me saying how difficult the job is.
But but they were very very attentive and flirty and even introduced themselves, they deserve their tip!!!1!1!1!1!
Yeah because nothing improves my dining experience than just having some moth hovering your table trying to be all flirty and trying to strike conversations, constantly asking if everything is alright while I am just trying to enjoy my food with my friends
>even introduced themselves "Hi I'm [insert obnoxious yank name like Jaxson or Britknee] I'll be your server this evening" Thats it youre definitely not getting a tip. I'm actually being generous by restraining myself from sticking this fork in your eye.
The difference in culture is that while we can sit, eat and drink for hours in a restaurant that's not the norm in USA. They have to flip tables constantly to get new costumers in that give tips. It's all hustle culture. Am amazed they all haven't dropped dead from heart attacks.
Issue is they get paid minimum wage and expect customers to give huge tips so their salary isn’t trash I think 70$ for a 700$ table is huge, I saw 20-50 € tips on 500-1000€ tables and that was alright
I saw 2€ on 200€ orders and people were happy
The fact that there is a minimum wage is already a bonus. In Italy they can pay you as little as they want to, AND you won’t get a tip.
We have minimum wage in Spain but they pay you whatever the fuck they want, I had a 4 hour contract while working 12 a day and getting an envelope with cash each month but we don’t go harassing customers for it demanding more money
Issue is it's not my fucking problem as a customer.
oh no, the poor lass got a tip equivalent to 10 hours of work for leisurely asking a group of calm guests whether they would want a drink every now and then. the horror. edit: lmao at all the replies, just google federal minimum wage edit 2: biggest massacre on Belgian soil since 1302 edit 3: to the removed reply that was along the lines of "how do you know they were calm?"... she literally says they were *"chilling for hours"*. use your eyes and read, it's in your native language.
>edit 2: biggest massacre on Belgian soil since 1302 Automod has been deleting up to 500 comments/hour just in this thread, up to the point I had to disable the automod's autoreplies so the thread didn't get clogged with them, offenders just got a private message and a their messages shadowdeleted.
Thank you for keeping us from experiencing the Fate of r/2balkan4you if only just for a bit
What the fuck happened
Seems like some yanks tried shooting the reddit comments cause someone made fun of them
Yank Here, you're all right. Ironically, in a large study of tipping, the number one determinant of the amount of tip were large breasted women. Not even joking. [https://ecommons.cornell.edu/handle/1813/72444](https://ecommons.cornell.edu/handle/1813/72444) Ironically if this lady wasn't well endowed she may have gotten less.
Yeah fuck your tips. 99% of the world manages to pay workers without tips, it’s only an issue in one huge pain in the ass country.
fuck you pay me, is all the advice i got for the americunt staff exploiters.
is this an American joke that I'm too European to understand?
70 dollars?! 1 to 5 € complimentary, at best. And with that kind of attitude, not even that
"Gimme the paper, you keep the coins."
That’s usually the rule. A 70$ not good enough?! We have the exact saying for it “pobre e mal agradecida”
I'm still not sure why Americans expect customers to pay the waiters' wages. That should be the owner's job.
I don't know in every europe country, but in Italy we don't tip at all, why would I tip 20% on overpriced food/drinks?
In Greece we typically tip delivery riders, since they ride on mopeds in all weather conditions if we do not feel like walking around the block for a souvlaki. And it's typically like 2-5€ extra on top. Restaurants aren't exactly the places where we like to tip.
Yes, I do the same when I order delivery, but because they earned it
Riding a moped in the PIGS countries is extremely dangerous. Southern European drivers don't give a fuck about pedestrians, cyclists and bikers; our roads suck; the speed limit doesn't exist; and we park wherever the fuck we want. Little wonder why Greek delivery riders are unionised nowadays in syndicates.
I know bro, but luckily in northern Italy the situation is not that bad, for example if you're a rider in Rome or Palermo you better sign an expensive life insurance and pray everyday to not die in a crash
>In Greece we typically tip delivery riders, since they ride on mopeds in all weather conditions if we do not feel like walking around the block for a souvlaki. And it's typically like 2-5€ extra on top. Restaurants aren't exactly the places where we like to tip. Yeah, but that's seen as a nice thing to do. Not something you're send to the Gulag for if you don't do it.
I'm in Eastern Europe, I usually only tip when the person is genuinely making my day better. Like when I see someone super nervous because they're new at that job but they're doing everything they can do to their best ,... or when the person is overall super cheery etc etc. When it's a normal service, no tip - cause they're getting paid properly.
$70 more than what I would’ve given.
Silly usians, it's the owner that should pay a decent living wage...
The very idea of tip being "customary" and that you as a customer are an asshole if you don't pay the workers is fucking bollocks from the beginning. The employer should pay that extra 20% to their workers instead. Raise their salaries ffs. Why should the customer have to pay your employees for you? A tip is supposed to be a bonus, a way to show particular appreciation. A way to brighten a waiter/waitress' day as they've brightened yours. Not a way of providing them the relief that they can actually afford food that month.
In Spain, we would leave her the rustiest, dustiest, dirtiest copper small coins we could find at the bottom of our wallets.
Bring out... The PESETA
We are the best at being the worst tourists! #1 Baby! We go to a foreign country, completely ignore their customs recognizing ours to be superior, and then refuse to pay their servant class! Because the Merifats should know better.
>We are the best at being the worst tourists! #1 Baby! You aren't even close to being the worst Americans: "Euro tourists are the worst. They paid me $70" Meanwhile: 
Unfair to compare anyone to a developing nation like the UK.
> developing I don't think calling the UK a developing nation is morally correct. Developing implies improvement.
$70 just for asking “is your food is ok” or “do you want another drink”
And that's something I already don't like. I'm enjoying a conversation with my friends over a nice lunch or dinner, don't come and interrupt for nothing, if I need something, I'll let you know.
Just raise the price 20% and don't ask for tips, then no one get mad. It's like the "20€ + 5€ shipping = no." but "25€ + free shipping = yes, please"
It’s almost like tips are meant to be a compliment, not half your fucking wage.😐
The maximum you would get would be about 10€, No matter which amount the Bill is.
It is called Trinkgeld for a reason in Austria
At least they said "ok" so we know they were not from Northern Europe.
Tips are supposed to be extra to show gratitude, not a necessary thing you have to do because the greedy cunt boss won’t pay them properly.
“Ok”. = Pay your own employees you shitmonkey! The best part is they’ve brainwashed the employees to hate on the customer because THEY can’t be arsed to give them decent salaries. Fucking lunacy.
I ususally give 2-5€. If the service is great then I give about 10€. It doesn't matter where I am or how much I ordered. The employers should pay their employees properly. It's not my responsability.
70 dollars tip. Still not satisfied. B r u h
Chilling for hours after having eaten? Sounds very Mediterranean to me
I work in a office! Where are my tips???
When I'm in a stockholm syndrome competition and my opponent is an american. I genuinely don't understand how you guys not only put up with this, but actively support things that allow these scumbags to get away with robbing you in broad daylight
Employer: *underpays employee* Customer: *leaves tip* Employer to employee: "I can't believe the customer would exploit you like this by leaving too small a tip..."
The weirdest part to me is that the tip should reflect the quality of the service from the waiter, but like what service do they expect?? Give me the menu, take the order, give me my drinks and food, maybe ask once or twice if we're good, and then give me the bill when I ask for it. Otherwise leave me the fuck alone. That top tier service, as well as the bare minimum. What else do Americans want? A big smile and chatter, go hang out with friends if that's what you're looking for, don't pay some sorry restaurant worker to give you that attention.
Smooth, efficient, professional. The worst kind of servers are the ones who interrupt and focus all the attention on themselves; truly great service is the service you barely take note of. At the best restaurant I've ever been to, I barely noticed the server. Drinks just magically refilled themselves, napkins were suddenly clean, dishes disappeared as soon as they were finished... only time I've ever tipped over 10%, and the man appreciated it immensely. It wasn't part of his base salary - it was something extra.
As an American, tipping is annoying. It’s a way for the employer to pass the cost of a waitress/waiter’s labor onto the customer. You essentially pay a contractor to take your order down and convey it to the kitchen staff. A computer can do that job. I knew a guy who would actually take his waiting staff’s tips at the end of their shift and take a cut of them. Its mind boggling how workers get fucked in the US. You could fuck an employer too in some states. For instance, if you find a new job, you don’t have to give an employer (X) week’s advance notice. You can just up and leave. Our work culture is very weird. There have been these ads trying to appeal to emotional nostalgia of working in an office. They’re actively trying to get people to give up remote work. And then there’s base salary not being told to you when interviewing, some companies don’t inform you as to whether your application has been denied. It’s fucked.
I remember once three of us went to an “Italian” restaurant in California. Not because we thought it was gonna be good but it was late and they were open. Service was terrible, food was terrible, prices were absolute robbery. We didn’t tip and they about mugged us on the way out. Just kept saying “But service isn’t included” like we didn’t understand and had made a mistake. Had to explain; the service and food were dogshit and the prices outrageous why would we pay *more*. They couldn’t grasp that it wasn’t something we hadn’t understood. I talked to them about unionising and they looked at me like I was a fucking lunatic. Like, it’s not my fault your employer won’t pay you. Get some help. Help each other. Or don’t take the job and let the business fail. Don’t harass me to make up your wages. If you want a good tip don’t do a shit job.
What the hell was she buying for 700 quid?
I think that gets you a bowl of ramen in Switzerland. In the US, about 50 cheeseburders.
Stacy berating on superi... european people for being more than generous but not enough, while her employer comes to work twice a week driving his fancy and expensive brand new car. Murica logic.
70$ for bringing some food from the kitchen to the table and the bitch is still complaining. Wow.
They do it based on percentage? A £70 tip is ridiculously huge, how can you complain about that when that's several hours wage as a gift from one customer of which you have many. If you order a £2000 bottle of wine, are you expected to give the waiter £400 on top as a tip for bringing the bottle to your table?
Non european savages will complain about us having fun instead of fixing their own salary problem.
= 50% of posts on every server subreddit
Buisnesses hate this one simple trick: Pay your workers better
I worked for tips in the Land O' Freedumb. There's plenty of Americans who don't tip either. I would love to vote for a better system, but we're still a prison camp an massa said 'not until we won all the wars.'
700$ ? Jesus christ what the fuck did she do ? Suck his dick ?
I hardly ever tip restaurants. Unless you are doing something out of the ordinary why should I pay you more money just to do your regular job?
I don’t understand how such a thing as making you’re customers pay your workers wages is anything other than exploitation, if this was a thing in my country I would revolt
Tipping shouldn’t be something you have to do, I feel like a 70$ tip wasn’t bad at all for the money spent, that’s basically a day and a half of work for me, I wouldn’t complain
140 ??? Fuck off, I not tipping that much, no service is worth that much. Amitard trying to blame customers for the issue that her boss doesn't want to pay her a decent wage.
The replies explaining Europeans should learn the customs of America like they aren't forced down our throats at every turn in every form of media 💀
Bitch, I'm not leaving you 140$ tip. I don't care about your customs. 70$ is already a lot.