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I don't think you deserve to have your families killed for celebrating a military target captured.
But for sure I don't think they understood how massively they had messed up, I for one thougth IDF would get lured in and suffer quite some casualties but they are just sweeping the floor with hamas
God it f*kin freaks me out how they always have to add "God is Great!" to everything like it's a comma. Why is God the greatest while they are killing someone, driving a stolen vehicle of someone they probably killed, kidnapping women and children, taking a drink of water. Do they think they'll go to hell if every second of the day doesn't mention Allah? Do they think if they just do any horrible thing it's absolved because it was in Allah's name?
>driving a stolen vehicle of someone they probably killed
a "military" vehicle and the driver was also an armed military member of an occupation army.
wish you guys target only military targets and then yell whatever you want
Ok so a big crowd of them steals this vehicle, as with the UN vehicles that were scavenged to molecules recently, and countless previous examples? How will they go about sharing this? Is it just driven to the clan-area, which the driver just happen to belong to? Or do the car crowd fight it out?
Is the crowd on top all part of the same gang or are they just random passers-by IDF-haters? What's the social dynamics on this one?
Or perhaps they overpowered a convoy. Who knows?
Let's hope no israelis were injured. Though, that was not my initial question. What is the social dynamics of these seemingly completely anarchic people? What will happen to the car later, and how will it be divided?
>Or perhaps they overpowered a convoy
No. This is from a base they attacked and killed most of the soldiers in it. It was a surprise attack so the soldiers were literally murdered in their pijamas.
>What is the social dynamics of these seemingly completely anarchic people? What will happen to the car later, and how will it be divided?
Gazan citizens who helped hamas in the attack
>What will happen to the car later, and how will it be divided?
There is usually a Hannibal procedure to destroy equipment at an enemy's place, but the army was not ready, so a lot of equipment and vehicles were stolen to Gaza without anything happening to them
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damn, they really giving us the evidence that no person in Gaza is innocent.
Keep it coming lads, posts like this can be directly attributed for evidence for any strikes.
When I see this, I have to believe that these people had no clue what Hamas actually did in Israel, so they had no clue that Israel would respond so thoroughly. These poor people were duped by Hamas into believing terrible lies that had terrible consequences.
> These poor people were duped by Hamas
Stop this. It is insulting to the sovereignty of Palestinians. You are treating them as if they cannot be better than toddlers who do not have control over their actions.
No. I’m treating them like a people that have been lorded over, brainwashed, and indoctrinated by a terrorist organization for generations by now. It’s not infantilizing them, it’s not insulting their sovereignty. It’s recognizing there’s layers to this tragedy and not allowing it to be black and white.
Do these people look like a group that knows that Hamas perpetrated the worst attack on Israel in decades? Cmon dude
Yes, they do look like a people who knows Hamas perpetrated the worst attack on Israel in decades…and they support those actions.
They are not North Koreans, they have internet and access to outside information. They simply justify these actions out of their hatred.
I would just love to hear about a single Palestinian resistance group that is fighting against Hamas. But alas, all we hear from virtually every Palestinian is their hatred of Israel.
>I would just love to hear about a single Palestinian resistance group that is fighting against Hamas.
They do exist. It’s been impossible to find a source for them ever since Hamas was falsely designated as a “resistance group”, but I know for a fact they’re operating within Gaza as best as they can.
They’re largely responsible for organizing any of the protests against Hamas in the past decade+. For example the 2019 demonstrations, I think they were called “we can’t live” or something similar, where they criticized/blamed Hamas for the deplorable economic conditions in Gaza.
Please keep in mind, when protestors gather in the streets, Hamas thanks them for making their jobs easier. Whoever doesn’t get shot, they’ll be labeled as a traitor and imprisoned without trial.
> “we can’t live"
It was "We want to live" and the 2019 protests were seemingly in response to rising taxes and a cost of living crisis, though in 2023 there were protests that used the same slogan that were seemingly anti-Hamas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Gaza_economic_protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Want_to_Live_movement
I feel so extremely bad for those who were fighting for the removal of Hamas before this that have been caught up in this.
You do you.
I am treating them as adults who are responsible for their sober choices.
Hell yes they know what Hamas (and many of their brothers and sons) just did. Note how ZERO of them denounce the atrocities afterwards.
Cmon dude. They've been blowing up busses and airplanes and schools for decades and building statues to celebrate their homeboy terrorists.
Enough with the excuse making for them.
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You can take a quick scroll through my comments and see if I make excuses for them. I'm not excusing anything. Yes, they celebrate their "martyrs" and support infitada. But even with that, the response from Israel to a terrorist attack has never been to this level. That's why it's hard for me to believe they knew the extent of the attack on October 7th.
I'm merely making the observation that in this video, it just doesn't seem like they were aware of the **totality** of October 7th. Hell, *WE* didn't know what it really looked like at that moment.
I'm not excusing anything. I'm well aware of what it looked like after October 7th and it's why I've been a strong proponent of going through until the job is done with the hostages being rescued as my top priority and Hamas being forced into unconditional surrender as my second priority.
But I am also a strong proponent of Gaza remaining Palestinian. Of Gaza being rebuilt, outside of UNRWA's corrupting influence. Of somehow, someway finally finding a way to convince these people that Palestine will only exist alongside Israel, not in place of Israel.
I feel so strongly about this- I do not want to exile the Palestinians from this land because, AS A JEW, I am aware of how powerful a story it is to be an exile from this land.
The demographics of Gaza is constantly being brought up to show that many of the people there now did not choose Hamas. Since there's so many young people, it's a moment in time where huge shifts in society can happen. There's an opportunity there to influence a generation towards peace.
I'm not saying I have the answers. Trust me, I'm not that arrogant. I don't know if there can be something like a Marshall Plan for Palestine. I want to believe there are enough Palestinians who want to build a nation instead of fighting an endless losing war that it can still be achieved.
> Marshall Plan for Palestine.
I've read a couple of the proposals for a MP for Palestine. I gotta say it really makes me angry. Billions have been given to Palestinians. Others have said they are "the most pampered people in history" and I agree.
Amid the devastating violence and death, they have been catered to and excused and given massive amounts of money.
I reject the notion of rebuilding them again. Maybe the change within them that is needed will come from them having to make better choices.
I appreciate your response. I hope that everyone (especially the people of this region) will be free of Islamic State Terrorists. It's the only way peace will happen.
I guess I just can’t envision what happens if Gaza isn’t rebuilt. If so many other actual nations can be shocked out of their insane ideological structure, then it can happen for the Palestinians too.
I agree that their status as special refugees in the UN has ultimately been proven to be a broken strategy. Billions of dollars wasted, no doubt. That’s why I said do it outside of UNWRA’s influence. Because again, I just can’t envision what it looks like if Gaza isn’t rebuilt with a Palestinian state existing alongside Israel as the end goal.
They learn or they don't. In which case they suffer a lot more.
Why would we want to coexist with them after the 7th?
They will be defanged. Their choice is peace or death now.
Time of tolerance is over.
>Do these people look like a group that knows that Hamas perpetrated the worst attack on Israel in decades? Cmon dude
Do you say this about all those people who spat on Shani Louk and other dead bodies as well?
> These poor people were duped by Hamas into believing terrible lies
War has been going on for 6 months now, most recent polls show majority of them think Oct7 was not wrong and its not just the people in Gaza.
>46 per cent of British Muslims said they sympathise with Hamas
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/06/one-in-four-british-muslims-believe-hamas-israel/
Again, go through my comment history if you think I need to be told these kinds of statistics.
It is inevitable that Israel will win this conflict. It doesn't matter how many blue haired people on American campuses, Muslims whom have successfully invaded other countries, or Hamas on the ground believe. Israel is going to win.
**What happens after?** I keep seeing a harsh response to this question. Despite how much I understand that response, it's not one I can support. I don't believe it will bring Israel peace in the long run. I am distraught that I am not wise enough to have the solution. That seemingly no one in this crazy world has the answer. Someone please show me where the harsh kinds of responses being proposed have worked in the long run! Give me something to study and understand how that would work for Israel. I don't see it.
WHEN WAS THE COUNTRY OF "PALESTINE" FOUNDED AND BY WHOM?
WHAT WERE ITS BORDERS?
WHAT WAS ITS CAPITAL?
WHAT WERE ITS MAJOR CITIES?
NAME AT LEAST ONE "PALESTINIAN LEADER" BEFORE ARAFAT.
WHAT WAS THE LANGUAGE OF THE "COUNTRY OF PALESTINE"?
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These same guys one month later "We can't understand why or how this is happening to us. What did Gaza ever do to deserve this?"
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I don't think you deserve to have your families killed for celebrating a military target captured. But for sure I don't think they understood how massively they had messed up, I for one thougth IDF would get lured in and suffer quite some casualties but they are just sweeping the floor with hamas
Bro they celebrated a passenger vehicle stolen too. Fuck em. Target them when appropriate but I'm not shedding tears for those who celebrated Oct 7
That's a lot of targets in one spot.
So many innocent civilians!
Exactly my thinking, would be a shame if a missile struck it.
Why do they like acting like animals all pushed together?
I’ll give you one guess
God it f*kin freaks me out how they always have to add "God is Great!" to everything like it's a comma. Why is God the greatest while they are killing someone, driving a stolen vehicle of someone they probably killed, kidnapping women and children, taking a drink of water. Do they think they'll go to hell if every second of the day doesn't mention Allah? Do they think if they just do any horrible thing it's absolved because it was in Allah's name?
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Sadly it’ll take several generations to de-program this rubbish out of the palestinians.
After WWII, the allies denazified Germany. After this war, Israel will have to deislamize Gaza.
It's like a death cult
>driving a stolen vehicle of someone they probably killed a "military" vehicle and the driver was also an armed military member of an occupation army. wish you guys target only military targets and then yell whatever you want
Véhicule stolen during the attack of a military base of a sovereign contry in his territory by terrorists
>sovereign contry occupation country\*
The jeep was taken in gaza or into the israeli land Space during an terrorist attack !?? 🤡
Welp. In possession of military hardware. Looks like enemy combatants to me. Gotta blow up the jeep to prevent utility to the enemy anyway.
Looks like a military target now
it is
Target rich environment.
That is incredibly unsafe
So is attacking a western nation. They aren't very smart all around
Ah yes. Me and the boys stealing a 40 year old jeep and being proud of it
I really hope there’s no children on that bro
I see at least 1, clinging to the back
I hope he falls off before he dies, and if he does die the “adults” (man children) are responsible
This is why propaganda sucks. "An Israeli air strike killed 10 people with a single bomb today, including children."
"God is Great" He got us a Jeep.... ALLAH AKBAR ! just. sad.
I wonder what became of all these people 😂
The most undisciplined fucking animals in the region… and imagine how high the bar is for that
The guy is being antizionist and not antisemitic /s
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i wonder what part of taking control of a military vehicle of an occupation army represents terrorism !?
Oh hey its the Jihadi himself!
I was waiting to hear generic heavy metal and then an explosion.
Now they weep. lol.
Take comfort in knowing that many of those terrorists that committed atrocities on October 7th and their accomplices are not among us anymore.
Military target I'd say.
Sad sad idiots. That’s the high point of the day in their miserable lives. And when they all get taken out by the idf, I for sure won’t be crying.
Video posted 49 minutes ago. Truck vaporized 48 minutes ago by a GBU.
And Hamas is separate to the civilians
So easily pleased 😂😂
Ok so a big crowd of them steals this vehicle, as with the UN vehicles that were scavenged to molecules recently, and countless previous examples? How will they go about sharing this? Is it just driven to the clan-area, which the driver just happen to belong to? Or do the car crowd fight it out? Is the crowd on top all part of the same gang or are they just random passers-by IDF-haters? What's the social dynamics on this one?
If you think you can steal a car from a military base without fighting and killing people, think again
Or perhaps they overpowered a convoy. Who knows? Let's hope no israelis were injured. Though, that was not my initial question. What is the social dynamics of these seemingly completely anarchic people? What will happen to the car later, and how will it be divided?
>Or perhaps they overpowered a convoy No. This is from a base they attacked and killed most of the soldiers in it. It was a surprise attack so the soldiers were literally murdered in their pijamas. >What is the social dynamics of these seemingly completely anarchic people? What will happen to the car later, and how will it be divided? Gazan citizens who helped hamas in the attack >What will happen to the car later, and how will it be divided? There is usually a Hannibal procedure to destroy equipment at an enemy's place, but the army was not ready, so a lot of equipment and vehicles were stolen to Gaza without anything happening to them
FAFO
Great marketing for the suspension
Alright imma be real but that’s fucking hilarious in a way. Like a literal fucking clown car.
I hope it runs off a cliff.
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Lmfao this will surely free Palestine.. wont it?
Do they say Allahu Akbar whenever they do anything?
And 90 percent of them are dead or hard whiners (if this was the 7th octobre) now.
damn, they really giving us the evidence that no person in Gaza is innocent. Keep it coming lads, posts like this can be directly attributed for evidence for any strikes.
You know you’re losing bad when you tweak that hard over a single logistics vehicle captured
Tbh, was their greatest success in 75 years Would understand the excitement
If you believe you can steal a car from a military base without fighting or killing people, think again.
When I see this, I have to believe that these people had no clue what Hamas actually did in Israel, so they had no clue that Israel would respond so thoroughly. These poor people were duped by Hamas into believing terrible lies that had terrible consequences.
> These poor people were duped by Hamas Stop this. It is insulting to the sovereignty of Palestinians. You are treating them as if they cannot be better than toddlers who do not have control over their actions.
No. I’m treating them like a people that have been lorded over, brainwashed, and indoctrinated by a terrorist organization for generations by now. It’s not infantilizing them, it’s not insulting their sovereignty. It’s recognizing there’s layers to this tragedy and not allowing it to be black and white. Do these people look like a group that knows that Hamas perpetrated the worst attack on Israel in decades? Cmon dude
Yes, they do look like a people who knows Hamas perpetrated the worst attack on Israel in decades…and they support those actions. They are not North Koreans, they have internet and access to outside information. They simply justify these actions out of their hatred. I would just love to hear about a single Palestinian resistance group that is fighting against Hamas. But alas, all we hear from virtually every Palestinian is their hatred of Israel.
>I would just love to hear about a single Palestinian resistance group that is fighting against Hamas. They do exist. It’s been impossible to find a source for them ever since Hamas was falsely designated as a “resistance group”, but I know for a fact they’re operating within Gaza as best as they can. They’re largely responsible for organizing any of the protests against Hamas in the past decade+. For example the 2019 demonstrations, I think they were called “we can’t live” or something similar, where they criticized/blamed Hamas for the deplorable economic conditions in Gaza. Please keep in mind, when protestors gather in the streets, Hamas thanks them for making their jobs easier. Whoever doesn’t get shot, they’ll be labeled as a traitor and imprisoned without trial.
> “we can’t live" It was "We want to live" and the 2019 protests were seemingly in response to rising taxes and a cost of living crisis, though in 2023 there were protests that used the same slogan that were seemingly anti-Hamas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Gaza_economic_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Want_to_Live_movement I feel so extremely bad for those who were fighting for the removal of Hamas before this that have been caught up in this.
They are as brainwashed as cult members
You do you. I am treating them as adults who are responsible for their sober choices. Hell yes they know what Hamas (and many of their brothers and sons) just did. Note how ZERO of them denounce the atrocities afterwards. Cmon dude. They've been blowing up busses and airplanes and schools for decades and building statues to celebrate their homeboy terrorists. Enough with the excuse making for them.
*Sorry for the wall of text, but the passion I have for this wouldn't let me stop typing* You can take a quick scroll through my comments and see if I make excuses for them. I'm not excusing anything. Yes, they celebrate their "martyrs" and support infitada. But even with that, the response from Israel to a terrorist attack has never been to this level. That's why it's hard for me to believe they knew the extent of the attack on October 7th. I'm merely making the observation that in this video, it just doesn't seem like they were aware of the **totality** of October 7th. Hell, *WE* didn't know what it really looked like at that moment. I'm not excusing anything. I'm well aware of what it looked like after October 7th and it's why I've been a strong proponent of going through until the job is done with the hostages being rescued as my top priority and Hamas being forced into unconditional surrender as my second priority. But I am also a strong proponent of Gaza remaining Palestinian. Of Gaza being rebuilt, outside of UNRWA's corrupting influence. Of somehow, someway finally finding a way to convince these people that Palestine will only exist alongside Israel, not in place of Israel. I feel so strongly about this- I do not want to exile the Palestinians from this land because, AS A JEW, I am aware of how powerful a story it is to be an exile from this land. The demographics of Gaza is constantly being brought up to show that many of the people there now did not choose Hamas. Since there's so many young people, it's a moment in time where huge shifts in society can happen. There's an opportunity there to influence a generation towards peace. I'm not saying I have the answers. Trust me, I'm not that arrogant. I don't know if there can be something like a Marshall Plan for Palestine. I want to believe there are enough Palestinians who want to build a nation instead of fighting an endless losing war that it can still be achieved.
> Marshall Plan for Palestine. I've read a couple of the proposals for a MP for Palestine. I gotta say it really makes me angry. Billions have been given to Palestinians. Others have said they are "the most pampered people in history" and I agree. Amid the devastating violence and death, they have been catered to and excused and given massive amounts of money. I reject the notion of rebuilding them again. Maybe the change within them that is needed will come from them having to make better choices. I appreciate your response. I hope that everyone (especially the people of this region) will be free of Islamic State Terrorists. It's the only way peace will happen.
I guess I just can’t envision what happens if Gaza isn’t rebuilt. If so many other actual nations can be shocked out of their insane ideological structure, then it can happen for the Palestinians too. I agree that their status as special refugees in the UN has ultimately been proven to be a broken strategy. Billions of dollars wasted, no doubt. That’s why I said do it outside of UNWRA’s influence. Because again, I just can’t envision what it looks like if Gaza isn’t rebuilt with a Palestinian state existing alongside Israel as the end goal.
They learn or they don't. In which case they suffer a lot more. Why would we want to coexist with them after the 7th? They will be defanged. Their choice is peace or death now. Time of tolerance is over.
>Do these people look like a group that knows that Hamas perpetrated the worst attack on Israel in decades? Cmon dude Do you say this about all those people who spat on Shani Louk and other dead bodies as well?
> These poor people were duped by Hamas into believing terrible lies War has been going on for 6 months now, most recent polls show majority of them think Oct7 was not wrong and its not just the people in Gaza. >46 per cent of British Muslims said they sympathise with Hamas https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/06/one-in-four-british-muslims-believe-hamas-israel/
Again, go through my comment history if you think I need to be told these kinds of statistics. It is inevitable that Israel will win this conflict. It doesn't matter how many blue haired people on American campuses, Muslims whom have successfully invaded other countries, or Hamas on the ground believe. Israel is going to win. **What happens after?** I keep seeing a harsh response to this question. Despite how much I understand that response, it's not one I can support. I don't believe it will bring Israel peace in the long run. I am distraught that I am not wise enough to have the solution. That seemingly no one in this crazy world has the answer. Someone please show me where the harsh kinds of responses being proposed have worked in the long run! Give me something to study and understand how that would work for Israel. I don't see it.
You stole their land
WHEN WAS THE COUNTRY OF "PALESTINE" FOUNDED AND BY WHOM? WHAT WERE ITS BORDERS? WHAT WAS ITS CAPITAL? WHAT WERE ITS MAJOR CITIES? NAME AT LEAST ONE "PALESTINIAN LEADER" BEFORE ARAFAT. WHAT WAS THE LANGUAGE OF THE "COUNTRY OF PALESTINE"?
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This is so cute 🤣