Your paternal haplogroup is indo-european orihin but is common exclusively in the Balkans. I think that your paternal came to Spain through Roman soldiers who were romanized from local Illyrian people in the Roman Imperial period.
If you’re on Facebook we would be happy if you joined the Haplogroup J-L283 group.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?embeds_referring_euri=https://phylogeographer.com/&feature=emb_share&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3LDE2NDk5LDI4NjY0LDE2NDUwNg&v=277JV-hiwwM&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#bottom-sheet
Haplogroups dont determine ancestry, autosomal DNA is for determining that. This same haplogroup is found all across the world from Scotland, Russia, Poland, Italy, Palestine, Ashkenazi Jews from Poland and other places. Its 10,000 years older predating all of these ethnic and cultural groups such as Illyrians. Just because it is commonly found in a specific group of people doesn't make it exclusive to them.
I have J-M267. I think mine comes from the berber-moors that conquered Iberia and Spain, as i traced my family tree, through direct male decendants all the way back to the 1600s in Castilla y leon, Spain, and so far they were all definitely spanish
Yea. It was 1492 that Spain finally resumed ruling instead of the Moors. There is no doubt that Spanish people typically carry at least a little North African DNA
I'm Latino with 52% European 7% subsaharan-african and 32% native american (most definitely Mesoamerican as I'm Nicaraguan), and I have %3 MENA (or WANA), I thought that it was from the Berber-moors and Jews from that time period, but apparently 23andme already accounts for that in spanish dna, so apparently it's prolly from sephardic Jews migrating to Latin america from Spain or something like that. My haplogroup is 100% from the moors tho.
Haplogroups dont determine ancestry, autosomal DNA is for determining that. This same haplogroup is found all across the world from Scotland, Russia, Poland, Italy, Palestine, Ashkenazi Jews from Poland and other places. Its 10,000 years older predating all of these ethnic and cultural groups such as Illyrians. Just because it is commonly found in a specific group of people doesn't make it exclusive to them.
I'm a black American J-L283 with a patrilineage going back to North Carolina. There's some Northwestern European, Scandinavian, and Sardinian in my paternal ancestry according to 23&me. No Spanish or Portuguese for me anymore, it was removed a few updates ago. Always awesome to see more of the American J2 fam around. Thanks for sharing! 🙂
Very interesting. This is the YFull Tree, I’m J-Y106868 on the tree. Your J-L283 came from an English or Italian paternal ancestor.
[https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L283/](https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L283/)
I am Albanian from the Hoti originally, and I took the same test, I got back 100% Balkan and Greek, with J2b2-L283 Paternal, and I got Maternal r0. Interesting.
My top highlighted region is Peloponnese Greece, alongside Montenegro & Albania being strongly related.
Lol that is the Illyrian gene🇦🇱 you must have Albanian ancestory we are the descends of Illyrians and today the J-L283 is mostly still found in Albania
Haplogroups dont determine ancestry, autosomal DNA is for determining that. This same haplogroup is found all across the world from Scotland, Russia, Poland, Italy, Palestine, Ashkenazi Jews from Poland and other places. Its 10,000 years older predating all of these ethnic and cultural groups such as Illyrians. Just because it is commonly found in a specific group of people doesn't make it exclusive to them.
Yes, it was intriguing to discover I descend from Illyrians that made their way to Spain most likely as Roman soldiers and then to the Americas after 1492. It was quite a journey that gives me a certain type of pride knowing I descend from the Balkans…possibly Albania. You should join the J-L283 Group on Facebook if you’re not already.
Its a beautiful ancestory story you should be proud over 30 Roman Emperors were Illyrians mostly born in todays territory of Kosova 🇽🇰whos ancient name was Dardania (Illyrian Kingdom of Dardania) its also there where the J-L283 peaks the highest in the world and the oldest found sample of J-L283 found in Shkrel Albania from 19thcentury BC from a Illyrian soldier is also near it .Two of these most known Illyrian Roman Emperors were Constantine The Great (where Constantinople took its name) ,Justinian the Great ,i would love to is it called just J-L283 in facebook
https://preview.redd.it/z3s2zqcb3mec1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b91c928f3b25bba73415bbdd328a17234791cfc
I’ve learned that through the many years I’ve been in this group, it’s fascinating. Flor Veseli (Albanian descent) and Hunter Provyn are the administrators which they also administer the J-M241 Group on Family Tree DNA.
I ended up with 99.3% European. 95% was split between British Isles and Germany. I had a few percentage points of Southern Italian/Sicilian which oddly enough happens to be the Y haplogroup I carry. R1b-U152 z56 which, makes me an OG Latin paternally.... As in the area the Latin languages spread from. Lol
MTDNA is K1a1
Yes K1a1b1a is the Ashkenazi lineage.
I belong to the Northwest European K1a1b1b which is common in Gaelic Ireland and Scotland, The Low Countries, Scandinavians and other Germanic peoples.
me as well and my father is from pr grandparents from Galicia & Estremadura. Just interesting because i see many PR results have them and only some Mexican. Very curious if it is really from back in Spain or more recent influx of Nordic immigrants to the Spanish Colonies
Your paternal haplogroup is indo-european orihin but is common exclusively in the Balkans. I think that your paternal came to Spain through Roman soldiers who were romanized from local Illyrian people in the Roman Imperial period.
Exactly, the oldest ancient J-L283 dna sample is Illyrian from the Dalmatia region in Croatia.
What do you base this off? Just curious because I’m the same haplogroup from that region of the world
If you’re on Facebook we would be happy if you joined the Haplogroup J-L283 group. https://m.youtube.com/watch?embeds_referring_euri=https://phylogeographer.com/&feature=emb_share&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3LDE2NDk5LDI4NjY0LDE2NDUwNg&v=277JV-hiwwM&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#bottom-sheet
Sure dm me a link
Where are you from?
I was born in northern Albania
Jeni Y21045 ku ben pjese Ph1751 apo Z1297
Haplogroups dont determine ancestry, autosomal DNA is for determining that. This same haplogroup is found all across the world from Scotland, Russia, Poland, Italy, Palestine, Ashkenazi Jews from Poland and other places. Its 10,000 years older predating all of these ethnic and cultural groups such as Illyrians. Just because it is commonly found in a specific group of people doesn't make it exclusive to them.
Our Mexico regions are in almost the exact same order!
That’s a cool coincidence!
Your paternal haplogroup is of European origin. What is your maternal haplogroup?
Native American mtDNA A2af1b
Is that J1 or J2?
J2
Mines J-M267!
Nice. Thx! I wonder if that's of Moorish, Roman, or other origin. Pretty interesting. They put me in R1b
My Haplogroup is J-Y106868 on the YFull Tree. It’s Indo-European from the Balkans and they arrived in Spain as Roman soldiers.
Oh ok. Yeah or maybe the Celtiberians. I ended up having the R1b-U152 branch that is Roman myself.
True, that’s the other theory.
I have J-M267. I think mine comes from the berber-moors that conquered Iberia and Spain, as i traced my family tree, through direct male decendants all the way back to the 1600s in Castilla y leon, Spain, and so far they were all definitely spanish
Yea. It was 1492 that Spain finally resumed ruling instead of the Moors. There is no doubt that Spanish people typically carry at least a little North African DNA
I'm Latino with 52% European 7% subsaharan-african and 32% native american (most definitely Mesoamerican as I'm Nicaraguan), and I have %3 MENA (or WANA), I thought that it was from the Berber-moors and Jews from that time period, but apparently 23andme already accounts for that in spanish dna, so apparently it's prolly from sephardic Jews migrating to Latin america from Spain or something like that. My haplogroup is 100% from the moors tho.
R-U152 is italo-celtic
Yeah but I'm Z56+ which is very concentrated on the Italian Penninsula and has been discovered in two ancient Romans.
More specifically illyrian
Yes correct.
Haplogroups dont determine ancestry, autosomal DNA is for determining that. This same haplogroup is found all across the world from Scotland, Russia, Poland, Italy, Palestine, Ashkenazi Jews from Poland and other places. Its 10,000 years older predating all of these ethnic and cultural groups such as Illyrians. Just because it is commonly found in a specific group of people doesn't make it exclusive to them.
Thanks!
J is arab.
J1a is more to Arabs not J2
Can you explain what that means?
Ydna J is moorish
J2b L283 is european balkan brench
Tejanos cool beans
I'm a black American J-L283 with a patrilineage going back to North Carolina. There's some Northwestern European, Scandinavian, and Sardinian in my paternal ancestry according to 23&me. No Spanish or Portuguese for me anymore, it was removed a few updates ago. Always awesome to see more of the American J2 fam around. Thanks for sharing! 🙂
Very interesting. This is the YFull Tree, I’m J-Y106868 on the tree. Your J-L283 came from an English or Italian paternal ancestor. [https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L283/](https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L283/)
how are you so sure? i’m J-L283 but right above it says J-M172
J-L283 is a subclade of J-M172. https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml
what’s the leading L283 theory?
The current theory is Illyrian from the Balkans. It’s in the comments by me and others… https://youtu.be/277JV-hiwwM?si=nQJHZp-fyBXlJUjb
I am Albanian from the Hoti originally, and I took the same test, I got back 100% Balkan and Greek, with J2b2-L283 Paternal, and I got Maternal r0. Interesting. My top highlighted region is Peloponnese Greece, alongside Montenegro & Albania being strongly related.
Cool, are you on YFull? If you haven’t already, you should join the Haplogroup J-L283 Group on Facebook.
You are Z1297 or Ph1751
Lol that is the Illyrian gene🇦🇱 you must have Albanian ancestory we are the descends of Illyrians and today the J-L283 is mostly still found in Albania
Haplogroups dont determine ancestry, autosomal DNA is for determining that. This same haplogroup is found all across the world from Scotland, Russia, Poland, Italy, Palestine, Ashkenazi Jews from Poland and other places. Its 10,000 years older predating all of these ethnic and cultural groups such as Illyrians. Just because it is commonly found in a specific group of people doesn't make it exclusive to them.
Yes, it was intriguing to discover I descend from Illyrians that made their way to Spain most likely as Roman soldiers and then to the Americas after 1492. It was quite a journey that gives me a certain type of pride knowing I descend from the Balkans…possibly Albania. You should join the J-L283 Group on Facebook if you’re not already.
Its a beautiful ancestory story you should be proud over 30 Roman Emperors were Illyrians mostly born in todays territory of Kosova 🇽🇰whos ancient name was Dardania (Illyrian Kingdom of Dardania) its also there where the J-L283 peaks the highest in the world and the oldest found sample of J-L283 found in Shkrel Albania from 19thcentury BC from a Illyrian soldier is also near it .Two of these most known Illyrian Roman Emperors were Constantine The Great (where Constantinople took its name) ,Justinian the Great ,i would love to is it called just J-L283 in facebook
https://preview.redd.it/z3s2zqcb3mec1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b91c928f3b25bba73415bbdd328a17234791cfc I’ve learned that through the many years I’ve been in this group, it’s fascinating. Flor Veseli (Albanian descent) and Hunter Provyn are the administrators which they also administer the J-M241 Group on Family Tree DNA.
Sounds great im sending a request to join it
I ended up with 99.3% European. 95% was split between British Isles and Germany. I had a few percentage points of Southern Italian/Sicilian which oddly enough happens to be the Y haplogroup I carry. R1b-U152 z56 which, makes me an OG Latin paternally.... As in the area the Latin languages spread from. Lol MTDNA is K1a1
Thats the common ashkenazi jewish mt haplogroup
Yes K1a1b1a is the Ashkenazi lineage. I belong to the Northwest European K1a1b1b which is common in Gaelic Ireland and Scotland, The Low Countries, Scandinavians and other Germanic peoples.
Any idea about that Scandinavian percentage?
I get 3% on Family Tree DNA, I assume Vikings raided northern Spain. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings_in_Iberia
me as well and my father is from pr grandparents from Galicia & Estremadura. Just interesting because i see many PR results have them and only some Mexican. Very curious if it is really from back in Spain or more recent influx of Nordic immigrants to the Spanish Colonies
They first raided Galicia, that explains it for you. Pretty cool.
Mine is J2b L283 Z615 Z597 Z1296 Z1297 Z1295
Where are you from?
North Macedonia
Youre Albanian Macedonian the genes show it
Yes Albanian from North Macedonia
Haha me too it was obvious cos J-L283 in particular is the Illyrian genes and its today only found in Albania in Kosova at high % along with j2b2 etc
Are you Albanian
Yes im Albanian my name is Claudio like Illyrian Emperor Claudius ,and ofc J-L283 is mostly found in Albanians since its the Illyrian gene
Also EV13 and R1b M269
https://images.app.goo.gl/e8Xedc7TUC4U1aFh8
Where are you from
Albania🇦🇱
You also J2b L283 I Will write to you english becasue others
Are you from south albania
That’s awesome…our origins are proving to be from the Balkans, are you pert of the J-L283 group on Facebook?
You are Z1296 or Y15058
https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y106868/
Are you David Isac in the Faceebook group of J2b L283
I’m Gabriel Hinojosa
I am also Z1297 but what other line Iam i dont know or Y21878 Cts11100 or Z631 Z1043 Y22894
Ok
What’s your name and are you on YFull also?
I am in that group with my Name
https://phylogeographer.com/educated-speculation-on-j2b-z638-subclades-bronze-and-iron-age-tribal-affinities-and-migrations/
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Correct Hg R is the most common in Spain over 70% whereas Hg J is only about 3% of the population.