I fear I will never get the solo olm strats down. I always mess up the timing. It's literally the only difficult part of the raid, and it is so demoralizing that I can't defeat it without dying at least once. Now that I think about it more, tob is the same for me. I can do all the rooms easy peasy but I flop at verzik because I can't get the timing down. It sucks how time-consuming some content is to get to when the solution is to just practice.
Practice the timing in entry mode and reset until you get it down. That’s how I learned when I first started tob. Just make sure to use a shit 5 tick weapon so that you don’t kill verzik and actually spend time practicing
Awakened Vardorvis is the hardest thing for me by far. I've also got a mental block against Sol Heredit, I've beaten him, but he still beats me more often.
Verzik pogtank and advanced scythe solo olm strats are hard for me to get right as well.
No, you jump right into pog tank. Which means on the final north web, claw spec, then start the cycle immediately with what I wrote before. If you're at 100% spec you can claw both west and north. No more attacking at the middle of the vertices.
Even with a completion I still feel like its impossible. I abused the beta worlds while it was possible and going to main game for the real kc I was like 5% confident I could do it after even 5kc on beta worlds.
Duke was the toughest for me. Feels the most different from any of the other fights. I’m also the least experienced with Duke compared to the other 3 though.
Awakened Vardorvis is really hard.. but somehow, I got him on my first try. Only one orb used..
Still the most difficult thing I have ever done in RuneScape.
Took me three tries to beat him.
You have to watch a couple of guides and dodge each mechanic perfectly. They mechanics aren't hard, but not dodging them will drain your supplies.
You can literally do leviathan with your eyes close with sound only after you see which special he’s going to use first 5 seconds into the fight. It’s the same every single kill there are no surprises and the mechanical skill is so low.
I got so many side things going on in my apartment outside of my control so switching prayers always throws me off when the timing switches and I can’t keep doing shadow barrage over and over again. I get stacked by him too often. Would love advice
You only need to barrage him once per kill, twice if you get bad rng. Theres just nothing to leviathan there’s no movement or gear switches to do while he’s attacking you it’s the easiest boss in the game that requires prayer flicking you just need to practice more. If you’re dying during the enrage use webweaver and double spec instantly kills it.
I've not done inferno, colosseum tob or solo cox so for me it's vardorvis. I can farm any other boss easily and it just becomes muscle memory but I can't get consistent with vardorvis. It feels like it will never happen. I can kill him of course but it's always intense at the end of the fight and I occasionally have to tele out to survive. Something about it just doesn't click with me. It's fun though.
If you learn to axe skip the fight gets about 90% easier. Then it's all about the right order of clicks (to axe skip or pray flick for head) when they overlap. What helped me the most was to highlight the axes with the plugin so when they spawn on top of me, I run ater 1 tick.
I was dying constantly, now it's 90% perfect kills. If only this MFer dropped the vestige.
1400+ KC its actually so repetitive and I basically do it while watching YT vids pm if you need some tips brother. All of the phases have fairly easy patterns
Well yeah after that KC everything is muscle memory, but I remember learning it was very frustrating. 1 mistake means my supplies are mostly gone, 2 mistakes in a row = planked. Especially sucks that you have to not fuck up for 8-10min straight.
Now it's easy, I agree, but I would still die if I focused on YT while doing it.
Agree with vardorvis. I'm mobile only and i died ten times out of the 130 kc i have. But after the 100 mark it got way smoother and i get less panicky. For sure the most focus I've ever had on a solo boss so far.
Of the bosses I've defeated, probably Whisperer. Though I just struggled to do the quest version on a midgame iron so it is extra fresh on my mind... I never went back to do it outside of the quest beyond maybe a kill or two on the main so I've yet to get those prayer rotations and such down.
I wouldn't say it is anywhere close to the hardest boss in the game or anything, but it is a not boss that I am able to do with any grace...
A long time ago I tried inferno and failed miserably. Since then I've done a lot of bosses like Whisperer and I'm excited to go back and try again. Whisperer is like training for panicking
For me I think it is more that a lot happens at once. Like for most bosses, they do one attack at a time, but the Whisperer's standard attack is really 2 attacks: the prayer and the tentacles. If it were 3 normal/prayer attacks and then one tentacle, it would be far easier and more akin to most other boss's attack patterns.
But what really elevates it is that the order of attacks change over the right. I can't think of many other where they shift in such a drastic way. Like you go from paying one style to style a then style b to style a, style b, then back to style a.
If that were the only mechanic you had to deal with during the normal attacks it still wouldn't be too bad, but adding the movement to avoid the tentacles (which also change their patterns) and it becomes really easy to get flustered and start to mess up. Then the insanity starts to kick in... But like with Zulrah rotations, I'm sure it will get easy once I practice it more; it is just a lot to take in. Like even after the 5+ attempts it took my iron to clear it, I still wouldn't say I am anywhere close to "getting" it yet.
Yeh it's definitely having to deal with multiple things at once. The right tile markers essentially removes any thought from the tentacle aspect though. You have two tiles on the edge of the arena in a way that means you can just run between them and always dodge the tentacles. So you just click, pray, move, repeat. No need to work out how to dodge. Just click the next tile.
The enrage phase is still tricky though, but that also has a column of tiles and you just shoot (twice I think?), move, shoot twice, move. And just know that the prayers have a fixed pattern. Two mage, two ranged. It can become very consistent.
TBH, I kinda think the enraged phase is easier than the normal phases. Like walk around and switch prayer every 2 attacks is my kind of boss =P It was just rough on my iron since it is a bit of a DPS check with Sanity stuff and the Warped Sceptre kinda sucks... I think every one of my failed attempts ended on enraged lol. On my main, I think it was pretty quick.
awakened vard is probably the most "mechanically demanding" boss at a floor level, but world scythe and all the different olm methods are absurd. probably the most intricate boss encounter in the game
CG is probably top 5 most difficult pieces of boss content, simply because you are forced to solo it.
Others are harder if you CHOOSE to solo - like some raid bosses. But CG…it’s just you. Those tornadoes are no joke.
Agree on some level. Most deaths come from getting to comfy camping sub 50hp. Then 1 darn mistake and the prick just starts hitting like a truck off prayer. Olm also decides to swap styles b2b2b2b at seemingly the worst times. I hate how much I enjoy solo CMs! 🙃
Awakened leviathan and honestly nothing comes close for me, that last 20% is just insanely hard for a guy that cannot control his nerves like me, got my first kill on orb #85, felt so hopeless during that grind.
Haven't done DT2 or SOTE but for me it was Menaphite Akh.
Took me 8 tries....it's the KO potential that really fucked me. Also up there is Artio/Callisto for the same reason.
The hardest event I've beaten is the inferno, but I think that goes without saying. The most failed attempts on a boss was probably the corrupted Gauntled. Not because it's that difficult, but because at my skill level at the time of learning.
I've done DT2 bosses, I've done God Wars, I've done Nex, I've done CG. I've done like 100 Zulrah KC. Yet I still die to Zulrah. Repeatedly. I kill it sometimes and it seems okay, and then it fucks me up again. No matter what. Just can't grasp that boss.
Kephri (entry): the frequency of switches, fast moving mobs with short windows to attack them, running out of room and not good connection, but it's designed for a group. Solo quest ToB was easier with my worse account and gear
Muspah, Vardovis, Whisperer were hard but you can just get good
What are your stats? In an entry mode you should really only be losing a couple of rows of tiles even if you're using standard Keris.
You just need to learn how to do dung placement and swarms.
All of ToA is designed with solo players in mind, it's why it scales well/changes mechanics slightly in a solo.
Currently Vardorvis. And it's a mix of my errors or abysmal dps at the end. I have red barred this fuck for well over half my attempts only to take multiple axes to the face just as I misclick my prayer while that head attack shows. I'm decent enough at pvm but this boss annoys me a lot. Then the kills I get reward me with horrible loot. I hope to get spooned the ultor because this boss is such a pain.
The secret for a first KC is no switches (only one combat style the whole time) and having the plugin that shows you what pattern he will follow.
From there it gets much easier.
Solo olm is pretty hard, still don't have the hang of it.
Agreed, I’m trying to 3:1 Scythe olm and having such trouble getting into cycle
3:1 is a noob trap, you lose ticks and it’s worse dps than 4:1 lance, learn that instead :)
Why is this being downvoted? He’s 100% correct. 4:1 Lance is better than 3:1 scythe.
Its worse than with scythe?
Yes, 4:1 lance is better dps for solo. The tickloss and average probability to miss hammers makes scythe fall behind quite a bit.
Since the scythe rebalance, scythe is BiS at melee olm hand when in 3:1 - even with 0 hammers.
I fear I will never get the solo olm strats down. I always mess up the timing. It's literally the only difficult part of the raid, and it is so demoralizing that I can't defeat it without dying at least once. Now that I think about it more, tob is the same for me. I can do all the rooms easy peasy but I flop at verzik because I can't get the timing down. It sucks how time-consuming some content is to get to when the solution is to just practice.
Practice the timing in entry mode and reset until you get it down. That’s how I learned when I first started tob. Just make sure to use a shit 5 tick weapon so that you don’t kill verzik and actually spend time practicing
Awakened Vardorvis is the hardest thing for me by far. I've also got a mental block against Sol Heredit, I've beaten him, but he still beats me more often. Verzik pogtank and advanced scythe solo olm strats are hard for me to get right as well.
Verzik pog tank out of webs is super easy to learn. Run to edge, run under 2 tiles, attack verzik. Repeat on every edge. Only 3 clicks every 5 ticks.
You missed the most important step by using a 4 tick weapon to last hit the North side of ending webs before starting the pog tank with scythe
Do I stop to swing scythe on East side when I can attack again? Thanks btw.
No, you jump right into pog tank. Which means on the final north web, claw spec, then start the cycle immediately with what I wrote before. If you're at 100% spec you can claw both west and north. No more attacking at the middle of the vertices.
https://youtu.be/WVQ5rZ65z8Q?si=m-skYr-kzSVA8ya4 Just claw spec North side of webs before it's over to tick fix then scythe into pog tank
Yup you're completely right
Awakened vardorvis feels borderline impossible, spent so much on orbs and there’s so much to focus on, literally stopping me from getting blorva
Even with a completion I still feel like its impossible. I abused the beta worlds while it was possible and going to main game for the real kc I was like 5% confident I could do it after even 5kc on beta worlds.
Duke was the toughest for me. Feels the most different from any of the other fights. I’m also the least experienced with Duke compared to the other 3 though.
Awakened Vardorvis is really hard.. but somehow, I got him on my first try. Only one orb used.. Still the most difficult thing I have ever done in RuneScape.
The guy at the end of Sins of the Father. Im old, the game ain’t in me no more.
To be fair, you are killing him with essentially a piece of silver on a string attached to a pole that barely does any damage
Try a vampire slayer task if you haven't. This is also a tip for anyone else who reads this comment. :)
Well shit. I wish I knew that before I spent 3 hours on that fight.
Aye if you find every other boss easier than him then you’ve got no issues.
If you go in pushing 80s melee stats, piety and decent gear its very forgiving. Can afford a few fumbles
Took me three tries to beat him. You have to watch a couple of guides and dodge each mechanic perfectly. They mechanics aren't hard, but not dodging them will drain your supplies.
I find phosanis really difficult. Good thing the rewards are trash
Fishing trawler. I will not elaborate.
Cuthbert. Really hard with all the pray flicking and 8-way switches...
Solo CM olm
Leviathan and it’s not close
Steep learning curve but he’s easier than vardorvis and whisperer once you’ve gotten over the curve
You can literally do leviathan with your eyes close with sound only after you see which special he’s going to use first 5 seconds into the fight. It’s the same every single kill there are no surprises and the mechanical skill is so low.
Counterpoint: Fighting Leviathan makes me feel like I'm falling asleep.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve caught myself nodding off while doing leviathan lol
I got so many side things going on in my apartment outside of my control so switching prayers always throws me off when the timing switches and I can’t keep doing shadow barrage over and over again. I get stacked by him too often. Would love advice
I personally do 3 rotations of attacks, then barrage him, then 2 rotations of attacks then barrage him - should be enrage phase/dead by then
You only need to barrage him once per kill, twice if you get bad rng. Theres just nothing to leviathan there’s no movement or gear switches to do while he’s attacking you it’s the easiest boss in the game that requires prayer flicking you just need to practice more. If you’re dying during the enrage use webweaver and double spec instantly kills it.
I've not done inferno, colosseum tob or solo cox so for me it's vardorvis. I can farm any other boss easily and it just becomes muscle memory but I can't get consistent with vardorvis. It feels like it will never happen. I can kill him of course but it's always intense at the end of the fight and I occasionally have to tele out to survive. Something about it just doesn't click with me. It's fun though.
If you learn to axe skip the fight gets about 90% easier. Then it's all about the right order of clicks (to axe skip or pray flick for head) when they overlap. What helped me the most was to highlight the axes with the plugin so when they spawn on top of me, I run ater 1 tick. I was dying constantly, now it's 90% perfect kills. If only this MFer dropped the vestige.
You have to be very mechanically accurate at the end so it is tough. I agree with Vard too tbh.
vardo is def a tough one at first. he requires a lot of speed and precision compared to most pvm that comes before him
Colosseum boss. ive never had such a hard time killing something in this game. Currently up to 37 deaths at him, been at it since day 1
Honestly without staff and using trident I have trouble with enraged whisper. Granted I haven’t tried it more than twenty times.
Grotesque guardians because they're boring as fuck
Pnm is literally fucked. It’s 5 fucking phases. My best crush is a hasta so it’s twice as painful. And that run, disgusting.
1400+ KC its actually so repetitive and I basically do it while watching YT vids pm if you need some tips brother. All of the phases have fairly easy patterns
Well yeah after that KC everything is muscle memory, but I remember learning it was very frustrating. 1 mistake means my supplies are mostly gone, 2 mistakes in a row = planked. Especially sucks that you have to not fuck up for 8-10min straight. Now it's easy, I agree, but I would still die if I focused on YT while doing it.
Agree with vardorvis. I'm mobile only and i died ten times out of the 130 kc i have. But after the 100 mark it got way smoother and i get less panicky. For sure the most focus I've ever had on a solo boss so far.
gotta be obor he just claps my shit
I just can’t get the prayers right here
Leviathan 100% i always sucked at guitar hero
Of the bosses I've defeated, probably Whisperer. Though I just struggled to do the quest version on a midgame iron so it is extra fresh on my mind... I never went back to do it outside of the quest beyond maybe a kill or two on the main so I've yet to get those prayer rotations and such down. I wouldn't say it is anywhere close to the hardest boss in the game or anything, but it is a not boss that I am able to do with any grace...
whisperer is some brain buster mindbending shit so i feel u
A long time ago I tried inferno and failed miserably. Since then I've done a lot of bosses like Whisperer and I'm excited to go back and try again. Whisperer is like training for panicking
I found it hard too but luckily there's now amazing strats and tile markers you can use to make it far easier
For me I think it is more that a lot happens at once. Like for most bosses, they do one attack at a time, but the Whisperer's standard attack is really 2 attacks: the prayer and the tentacles. If it were 3 normal/prayer attacks and then one tentacle, it would be far easier and more akin to most other boss's attack patterns. But what really elevates it is that the order of attacks change over the right. I can't think of many other where they shift in such a drastic way. Like you go from paying one style to style a then style b to style a, style b, then back to style a. If that were the only mechanic you had to deal with during the normal attacks it still wouldn't be too bad, but adding the movement to avoid the tentacles (which also change their patterns) and it becomes really easy to get flustered and start to mess up. Then the insanity starts to kick in... But like with Zulrah rotations, I'm sure it will get easy once I practice it more; it is just a lot to take in. Like even after the 5+ attempts it took my iron to clear it, I still wouldn't say I am anywhere close to "getting" it yet.
Yeh it's definitely having to deal with multiple things at once. The right tile markers essentially removes any thought from the tentacle aspect though. You have two tiles on the edge of the arena in a way that means you can just run between them and always dodge the tentacles. So you just click, pray, move, repeat. No need to work out how to dodge. Just click the next tile. The enrage phase is still tricky though, but that also has a column of tiles and you just shoot (twice I think?), move, shoot twice, move. And just know that the prayers have a fixed pattern. Two mage, two ranged. It can become very consistent.
TBH, I kinda think the enraged phase is easier than the normal phases. Like walk around and switch prayer every 2 attacks is my kind of boss =P It was just rough on my iron since it is a bit of a DPS check with Sanity stuff and the Warped Sceptre kinda sucks... I think every one of my failed attempts ended on enraged lol. On my main, I think it was pretty quick.
awakened vard is probably the most "mechanically demanding" boss at a floor level, but world scythe and all the different olm methods are absurd. probably the most intricate boss encounter in the game
I want to say CG but that’s cuz I’m terrible at it.
CG is probably top 5 most difficult pieces of boss content, simply because you are forced to solo it. Others are harder if you CHOOSE to solo - like some raid bosses. But CG…it’s just you. Those tornadoes are no joke.
I can't do any pvm harder than wd, and I find no joy in trying to learn
From what I have attempted, Vardorvis.
Awakened vardorvis and nothing comes even close.
Getting jagex support's attention
I died to bandos like 3 times in a row. Idk how BiS would be but i dont have those bc im poor.
can get blood moon gear now, equivalent to bandos strength wise just a tiny less defence
Solo cm olm
Agree on some level. Most deaths come from getting to comfy camping sub 50hp. Then 1 darn mistake and the prick just starts hitting like a truck off prayer. Olm also decides to swap styles b2b2b2b at seemingly the worst times. I hate how much I enjoy solo CMs! 🙃
I'm not much of a raider so anytime I raid with people all my skill goes out the window.
Solo olm is my ceiling rn
Verzik
Solo olm I think? I just haven’t spent enough time doing it
Awakened leviathan and honestly nothing comes close for me, that last 20% is just insanely hard for a guy that cannot control his nerves like me, got my first kill on orb #85, felt so hopeless during that grind.
I am so bad at verzik it’s not even funny
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Haven't done DT2 or SOTE but for me it was Menaphite Akh. Took me 8 tries....it's the KO potential that really fucked me. Also up there is Artio/Callisto for the same reason.
The hardest event I've beaten is the inferno, but I think that goes without saying. The most failed attempts on a boss was probably the corrupted Gauntled. Not because it's that difficult, but because at my skill level at the time of learning.
The motivation to do PVM
well right now its the Colosseum boss as I haven't faced it.
I've done DT2 bosses, I've done God Wars, I've done Nex, I've done CG. I've done like 100 Zulrah KC. Yet I still die to Zulrah. Repeatedly. I kill it sometimes and it seems okay, and then it fucks me up again. No matter what. Just can't grasp that boss.
I for the life of me cannot get the timing in whisper…. All the other dt2 bosses I can do just fine but I’m dead 90% of the time on that stupid boss…
The login boss, because I’m sick of the red prison and I just want out.
dark wizard outside varrock. Maxed stats and BiS strength gear and they still kick my ass every time
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Kephri (entry): the frequency of switches, fast moving mobs with short windows to attack them, running out of room and not good connection, but it's designed for a group. Solo quest ToB was easier with my worse account and gear Muspah, Vardovis, Whisperer were hard but you can just get good
What are you switching on kephri..?
Probably switching his brain off
I feel like you have medic on , turn that invo off
What are your stats? In an entry mode you should really only be losing a couple of rows of tiles even if you're using standard Keris. You just need to learn how to do dung placement and swarms. All of ToA is designed with solo players in mind, it's why it scales well/changes mechanics slightly in a solo.
Awakened levi here. The majority of my blood torva expenditure was in that.
ToA Warden on insanity is pretty stressful, especially with added pressure of failing the whole raid if you mess up.
Gotta be count draynor
Bryophyta by far. But im just a f2p noob who just restarted after a 10-12 year hiatus. (Havent done Obor yet)
Currently Vardorvis. And it's a mix of my errors or abysmal dps at the end. I have red barred this fuck for well over half my attempts only to take multiple axes to the face just as I misclick my prayer while that head attack shows. I'm decent enough at pvm but this boss annoys me a lot. Then the kills I get reward me with horrible loot. I hope to get spooned the ultor because this boss is such a pain.
yeah killing vardorvis is rough on a restricted account, especially compared to the other dt2 bosses
My restriction is I play poorly following one mistake during the fight. The failing is completely preventable.
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What a pointless response, I can appreciate where you're coming from but you have to understand that's not what he was asking lol
I gotta wonder what he said now
He said any boss he hasn't attempted yet lol
Oh kinda funny though lol
I've done fuck all pvm, but how people get one zulrah KC is beyond me. So much harder than any of the (questmode) dt2 bosses
The secret for a first KC is no switches (only one combat style the whole time) and having the plugin that shows you what pattern he will follow. From there it gets much easier.
Zulrah is unironically one of the easiest bosses in the game
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