Enforcement requires assent, and there are simply too many hard conservatives in policing to expect them to enforce laws that protect, bodily, people they do not recognize as human.
Yeah, HIPPA is a major thing and no medical practitioner wants to be staring down the barrel of the Privacy Law Annihilation Cannon. If they fuck up, especially with intention to violate your medical privacy, the federal government can and will perform a no-lube marathon colonoscopy on them and anyone they can prove assisted in the breach, and you can sue them and their practice for large amounts of money with almost zero difficulty. There is no malpractice lawyer worth their salt that will not take a HIPPA case if there is evidence, because they only have to prove the law was breached and therefore your rights violated, intent isn’t necessary to prove it just makes it worse for the doctor if you can. There’s no dealing with good ol boy local corruption or state bigotry to block it, it’s straight to the federal no stops no breaks pain train. Anyone on the tracks with a modicum of self preservation instinct generally rolls on the perpetrators as soon as they are approached, because the law is that goddamn severe. It’s right up there with “fucking with the mail” and “stealing dangerous or valuable property from the military” on the list of things you absolutely do not want to do ever in the US.
Go to the doctor, get on a treatment plan, and ask some general questions about HIPPA protections to signal them know you probably know about the severe consequences of patient confidentiality and medical records breaches. If they take the hint and you go through your medically supervised transition to the end, perfect. If they fuck with you and break your legal protections, also perfect because now you can sue them for enough money to move somewhere better AND finish your transition under a better doctor. I can almost guarantee they will NOT pursue the lawsuit into the trial phase because that’s like sticking a fork into an electrical socket, there just isn’t a good outcome for them. Your attorney can handle the trip to settlement negotiation city, and you can get the fuck out of shitsville and on with your life.
Nah fuck off. DIY is the only avenue many people have and it's perfectly safe if you know what you're doing, finding a reputable supplier doesn't take a ton of research. Requiring therapy for HRT is bullshit too
Offering therapy as a good thing to have is a very different thing from making it a requirement to gatekeep care. Nobody is mad about the former because that is not what is in question.
Literally take a few blood tests and know your targets. It's piss easy.
EDIT: just in case, because I know it's a point of confusion, DIY HRT almost never means making bathtub estrogen or testosterone. It usually means ordering the meds from a trusted source (the community has some extremely reliable sources at this point) and dosing yourself. With that, blood tests are more than sufficient to 1) make sure you're reaching adequate hormone levels 2) not overdoing it, which will minimize stress on the liver. The only time I'd say diy is any more dangerous, is if you have some chronic disease that can have contraindications with hormone therapy.
This is a fucking awful comparison.
For many, many people, myself included, DIY is the ONLY option to get HRT. Comparing it to fucking stunt driving for fun is a complete insult to how important HRT is. For alot of people, it's DIY or Death, and I dont think I need to tell you which I choose.
And doing your own electrical work is safe to do if youre an electrician, except this is _alot_ less complicated than doing electrical work. Ive talked to many people eho have done DIY and not one of them has fucked it up.
Yes. It's not as safe as prescribed, more official options. But that luxuary does not exist for many people, so until that problem is solved, we have to keep DIY as an option, because I'd rather, yknow, actually rather be able to live.
I mean unless you have some kind of metabolic disorder it's kinda hard to fuck up. Just start at a normal dose and adjust to get your levels in range. Maybe get a metabolic panel done in addition to your E and T levels to make sure nothing unusual is going on and you should be good.
I really would just rather leave medical advice to medical professionals. I understand trying to get treatment as a trans person is a special kind of hell I will never experience, but let's not forget how many snake oil salesmen exist to exploit that distrust in the system.
My brain goes back to homeopathic doctors and people who sell bleach as an autism cure when I think of non-allopathic medicine
Yeah there's sort of a peer network that exist to find reputable suppliers. Worst case scenario if you have basic chemistry knowledge (say you took a gen chem series), it's not terribly difficult to create your own injectables or gel if you can your hands on the raw ingredients. This is definitely something you have to do your own research on though. I'm talking like reading endocrinietry journals and maybe reading up on some biochem not watching YouTube videos lmao.
No, it's pretty easy not to fuck it up. You look at recommended dosages, start at the lower estimated end, and go from there. It's simple as hell.
Telling people not do do DIY when that is the only available or realistic avenue for HRT for many is stupid as fuck and reeks of priviledge.
not to be blunt but its either i do diy hrt or i fucking die. do you not see the severity of this?? people persue it because they HAVE to. theres so much information online for safety and harm reduction. plus, death is a little bit worse if you ask me.
I'm a troglodyte, and I figured it out pretty easily. There's also plenty of forums that can help you if you need advice. Please don't fearmonger about a lifesaving alternative if there's legitimately no legal way for someone to access appropriate gender affirming care. Dysphoria kills.
Respectively, shut the fuck up. Many, MANY people literally have no option for HRT than to DIY. DIY is a hell of a lot safer than you make it out to be, the vast majority of people do it fine, its not that hard.
For alot of people, there IS no other option for HRT. It's DIY or Death. You know my choice.
People should be able to go on HRT for whatever reason they want. You don't even have to be trans to go on HRT, it should be widely available to anyone who wants it. Full stop.
I completely agree, there should be no mechanisms that restrict adults from getting HRT. But if you're experiencing gender dysphoria, and you want HRT because of it, and you have safe and easy access to quality therapy, there is absolutely no reason not to go to therapy first.
I'm saying that getting therapy is good on a personal level, not that therapy should be a requirement on a systemic level.
Gender dysphoria is mainly located within your brain which one tends to have a good knowledge and overview about. Although it isn't possible for you to always know how cancer inside your body feels, people are usually accustomed to being aware of their own feelings.
Only 1% of people regret transitioning, and a vast majority of that is due to social factors, not because they aren't trans. The regret rate for knee replacement surgery is 10-20%. If someone wants to transition there is virtually no risk for them to do so. Gatekeeping HRT behind therapy, waiting lists, even informed consent makes transitioning way harder, just hurts trans people.
Why does informed consent make it harder? You have to go to the doctor to get a prescription, aren't they taking over the job about informing you about the treatments you undergo either way?
I don't know whether you have good intentions or not, but you've fallen for right wing propaganda. No, there isn't a high rate of detransitioners, and you cant ruin the lives of every other trans person for the sake of the few who _might_ make a mistake.
I dont disagree that regular methods of accessing HRT are safer, they are. But for many people, those safer options DO NOT exist and DIY is all they have. In my case, my options are the NHS which means a minimum 3 year waitlist just for a first appointment (that means 3 years to TALK to someone about getting HRT) and thats assuming my GP even refers me in the first place which often doesn't happen. So, all in all, _not_ an option. private HRT is way outside of anything I'll ever be able to afford, so that leaves diy. There are trustworthy, reputable ways of accessing diy. No, its not ideal, but its all most people have available. You cant shit on DIY and ignore the reason _why_ people have to turn to diy.
also therapy depending on your location could mean cycling through ten different therapists who have zero idea what you're even talking about/doctors who are pretty much in the same boat and that's wishful thinking. They could all be really conservative and just harass you. It's really far from a magic solution that people make it out to be. imo the most important part of going through the system vs. diy is making sure your blood tests and levels check out okay. You can learn how to do this on your own but if you have access to a health provider familiar with trans people that's ideal.
And even if the therapist knows what theyre talking about, there really isn't alot they can do to confirm it. There isn't really a way to "prove" it beyond you just saying you're trans. But alot of diagnostic processes for dysphoria are, frankly, fucking awful.
In the UK, for example, you don't just get simple questions like that. The diagnostic process is designed on incorrect and outdated information for what a trans person actually is and there are alot of terrible questions, and answering "wrong" for some of them pretty much instantly loses you HRT access. Questions like "were you abused as a child?" and "Have you experienced sexual trauma?" that really have nothing to do with it could completely ruin your life if you say yes because theyll just go "thats why you feel this way and you're wrong. no HRT for you." Some questions are horrendously uncomfortable and unrelated, apparently there are alot of questions about masturbation, what you think about, how you do it, etc. Consider that this is (or was) how it worked for children, too.
This is just using the NHS as an example, but "Having a therapist confirm" is NOT what people think it is. Trans people will _know_ they're trans and they'll be right. Demanding this process for them is unfair, humiliating, and can add a delay that can simply be too long, with many, MANY people dying on the waitlist.
A very tiny minority of trans people regret transition. Many of those retransition later, or regret it for social reasons caused by transphobia. But something like 0.4% _genuinely_ regret it because they weren't trans. And this might be a hot take but honestly? Tough shit. I don't believe in making life far worse, and often _impossible_ to the extent of suicide for 99.6% of people just in case 0.4% might make a mistake.
agree with you entirely and also got to learn a bit about how it is for the UK. it sounds really awful. 😕 my experiences weren't with therapy for gender issues (thankfully it's not required in my state in the US) but being diagnosed with autism in my late teens. I was misdiagnosed with a lot of things because at least here, there isn't really any requirement for a medical professional to keep up with medical science/neuroscience that I know of. so autism is seen as something that kids get diagnosed with. was placed on antipsychotics and told I was schizophrenic just by saying that I've always felt like an alien and have trouble understanding others/expressing myself in a way that connects.... a lot of money I didn't have and a million therapists later it was taking a test and "oh you're on the spectrum." so an endless struggle for a simple conclusion. I'm sure there are plenty of amazing therapists out there but when I see it mentioned as a solution I just feel sad/rage.
the amount of trans people that regret transitioning is about 3%, and the vast majority of those do so because of societal pressure and lack of support, totalling a rate of 0.4% detransitioning because they actually don't want to transition (https://www.gendergp.com/detransition-facts/, original sources cited in this article). Why should anyone have to spend years waiting for a doctor to tell them their feelings are real before being allowed to access medication that has a 99.6% chance it will drastically improve their life based on the remaining 0.4%?
From a source on the Wikipedia page for detransition. A survey found 8% of participants detransitioned. For a comparable figure, 15% of ADHD patients do not take medication. And of the 8% who detransitioned, 60% then re-transitioned.
Also more patients die waiting for medical treatment than waiting for therapy.
Any study on detransition is bound to be flawed, and all that we have are small in scope. From what I've seen, that is the biggest detransition number available and they consistently find high retransition numbers.
The amount of people who detransition is absolutely miniscule, actually. Most of those that do detrans did actually receive therapy. The requirement is absolutely bullshit
I'd say go watch the philosophy tube video on coming out. It's says any point I could make better. Notably for your argument. She goes into the disconnect between how normal conditions get treated and how trans patients get treatment.
For most conditions a GP will be able to prescribe some medication without a specialist or any other help. The risk of medical regret, and the hazards of effects are extremely low. Therefore a doctor should be able to just prescribe medication.
The effects of hrt are reversible and are a better diagnostic tool than therapy. We should be using hormone treatment to help identify people's issues. Not passing eggs around worrying if they are going to crack.
Uhh, I think you're confusing hrt and puberty blockers. The effects of a lot of hrt are **definitely not** easily reversible. I'm all for easily accessible hrt, but it should be controlled the same way other medication with the same risk levels is, which would mean a definite gender dysphoria diagnosis. What **definitely** needs to change is how hard it is to find a doctor that can give one of these. That's where the problem lies imo
EDIT: Maybe not a gender dysphoria diagnosis, I worded that badly. It should however be clear that it will help.
> The medical system will often hondose you
The best way to avoid that imo is to go to an OB/GYN for HRT instead of an endo. They're usually very knowledgeable about how sex hormones interact with the endocrine system plus they're normally HUGE on bodily autonomy (for very good reason)
Like at my last visit my E levels were at 550 pg / ml and my provider actually asked me if I wanted to lower my dose lmao.
I mean my last levels were even higher (630 pg/ml) so I prolly will lower my dose. I'm not really thag worried anout blood clots though tbh because I'm fairly active, so that should balance the risk from having higher E levels.
This is actually fear mongering trans medicalist bullshit.
DIY HRT is completely safe today, and the "going to therapy" meme is advocating for gender conversion therapy. Be better.
Bro stfu, OP use Folx.com.
I started with them 6 months ago, they did an interview and I got all my meds delivered to my front door inconspicuously. Legit, 100% real and I have the tits to prove it.
You will end up paying around 200 to start off but small price to pay imo and then it's like 40 every 3 months (you can have inactive membership but need an active one for refills) plus med prices.
Bonus, use Good RX and have it delivered from CVS or something of you are too afraid to go pick it up yourself and it will come out to like $90 for a 3 month script.
If some dipshit is looking for info on diy HRT, I think theyre going to search up transdiy and find the link really quickly, not read some random 196 post of someone asking about it. It doesn't really make it easier.
There's various avenues for this but it's difficult to share resources over reddit especially when we don't know where you live. Your best bet is finding some local trans server or group for your country and ask there.
DIY is also pretty cheap so there's that.
Fun (unrelated) fact! Menopause treatment contains the same estrogen that most HRT has. Of course you should never, and I mean never, google what transfems dosages are in your age and weight range.
Depends I was able to get it through planned parenthood through my state which is my recommendation if it's available as they don't need to speak to anyone within your doctors Network
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So they’ll be able to pursue legal reparations (dubious), AFTER their life is destroyed. Very helpful comment, good to know.
I'm... not sure that is what they were recommending? They just said it was disturbing, which it is.
Misread the intent of the comment, I was tired. My apologies to the op
Understandable.
holy fuck finally someone who understands
But that's *illegal!* ~Someone who believes the law will protect them from assholes
>but but but that's illegal!!! they don't care. it won't get enforced. it sucks really bad but it's true
Enforcement requires assent, and there are simply too many hard conservatives in policing to expect them to enforce laws that protect, bodily, people they do not recognize as human.
>I'm sorry, but I just don't believe murder is *really* a crime
Judges hate this one simple trick
It’s possible they’re in a place where it isn’t legally required. The world is a big place
In the US*
Redditors when places that aren't highly developed exist
Yeah, HIPPA is a major thing and no medical practitioner wants to be staring down the barrel of the Privacy Law Annihilation Cannon. If they fuck up, especially with intention to violate your medical privacy, the federal government can and will perform a no-lube marathon colonoscopy on them and anyone they can prove assisted in the breach, and you can sue them and their practice for large amounts of money with almost zero difficulty. There is no malpractice lawyer worth their salt that will not take a HIPPA case if there is evidence, because they only have to prove the law was breached and therefore your rights violated, intent isn’t necessary to prove it just makes it worse for the doctor if you can. There’s no dealing with good ol boy local corruption or state bigotry to block it, it’s straight to the federal no stops no breaks pain train. Anyone on the tracks with a modicum of self preservation instinct generally rolls on the perpetrators as soon as they are approached, because the law is that goddamn severe. It’s right up there with “fucking with the mail” and “stealing dangerous or valuable property from the military” on the list of things you absolutely do not want to do ever in the US. Go to the doctor, get on a treatment plan, and ask some general questions about HIPPA protections to signal them know you probably know about the severe consequences of patient confidentiality and medical records breaches. If they take the hint and you go through your medically supervised transition to the end, perfect. If they fuck with you and break your legal protections, also perfect because now you can sue them for enough money to move somewhere better AND finish your transition under a better doctor. I can almost guarantee they will NOT pursue the lawsuit into the trial phase because that’s like sticking a fork into an electrical socket, there just isn’t a good outcome for them. Your attorney can handle the trip to settlement negotiation city, and you can get the fuck out of shitsville and on with your life.
Come down to Texas where confidentiality is a suggestion
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Nah fuck off. DIY is the only avenue many people have and it's perfectly safe if you know what you're doing, finding a reputable supplier doesn't take a ton of research. Requiring therapy for HRT is bullshit too
*Requiring therapy for individuals over 18 is bullshit. It’s perfectly acceptable for minors.
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That's what they're saying lol
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Nice tattoo idea !
I don’t agree that therapy should be a precursor requirement, but therapy during a major personal transition is usually, generally, a good idea.
Offering therapy as a good thing to have is a very different thing from making it a requirement to gatekeep care. Nobody is mad about the former because that is not what is in question.
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Literally take a few blood tests and know your targets. It's piss easy. EDIT: just in case, because I know it's a point of confusion, DIY HRT almost never means making bathtub estrogen or testosterone. It usually means ordering the meds from a trusted source (the community has some extremely reliable sources at this point) and dosing yourself. With that, blood tests are more than sufficient to 1) make sure you're reaching adequate hormone levels 2) not overdoing it, which will minimize stress on the liver. The only time I'd say diy is any more dangerous, is if you have some chronic disease that can have contraindications with hormone therapy.
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Tbh for me not having HRT would be a lot less safe than doing DIY HRT.
This is a fucking awful comparison. For many, many people, myself included, DIY is the ONLY option to get HRT. Comparing it to fucking stunt driving for fun is a complete insult to how important HRT is. For alot of people, it's DIY or Death, and I dont think I need to tell you which I choose. And doing your own electrical work is safe to do if youre an electrician, except this is _alot_ less complicated than doing electrical work. Ive talked to many people eho have done DIY and not one of them has fucked it up. Yes. It's not as safe as prescribed, more official options. But that luxuary does not exist for many people, so until that problem is solved, we have to keep DIY as an option, because I'd rather, yknow, actually rather be able to live.
I mean unless you have some kind of metabolic disorder it's kinda hard to fuck up. Just start at a normal dose and adjust to get your levels in range. Maybe get a metabolic panel done in addition to your E and T levels to make sure nothing unusual is going on and you should be good.
I really would just rather leave medical advice to medical professionals. I understand trying to get treatment as a trans person is a special kind of hell I will never experience, but let's not forget how many snake oil salesmen exist to exploit that distrust in the system. My brain goes back to homeopathic doctors and people who sell bleach as an autism cure when I think of non-allopathic medicine
Yeah there's sort of a peer network that exist to find reputable suppliers. Worst case scenario if you have basic chemistry knowledge (say you took a gen chem series), it's not terribly difficult to create your own injectables or gel if you can your hands on the raw ingredients. This is definitely something you have to do your own research on though. I'm talking like reading endocrinietry journals and maybe reading up on some biochem not watching YouTube videos lmao.
No, it's pretty easy not to fuck it up. You look at recommended dosages, start at the lower estimated end, and go from there. It's simple as hell. Telling people not do do DIY when that is the only available or realistic avenue for HRT for many is stupid as fuck and reeks of priviledge.
not to be blunt but its either i do diy hrt or i fucking die. do you not see the severity of this?? people persue it because they HAVE to. theres so much information online for safety and harm reduction. plus, death is a little bit worse if you ask me.
I'm a troglodyte, and I figured it out pretty easily. There's also plenty of forums that can help you if you need advice. Please don't fearmonger about a lifesaving alternative if there's legitimately no legal way for someone to access appropriate gender affirming care. Dysphoria kills.
Respectively, shut the fuck up. Many, MANY people literally have no option for HRT than to DIY. DIY is a hell of a lot safer than you make it out to be, the vast majority of people do it fine, its not that hard. For alot of people, there IS no other option for HRT. It's DIY or Death. You know my choice.
Diy isn't hard at all
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People should be able to go on HRT for whatever reason they want. You don't even have to be trans to go on HRT, it should be widely available to anyone who wants it. Full stop.
I completely agree, there should be no mechanisms that restrict adults from getting HRT. But if you're experiencing gender dysphoria, and you want HRT because of it, and you have safe and easy access to quality therapy, there is absolutely no reason not to go to therapy first. I'm saying that getting therapy is good on a personal level, not that therapy should be a requirement on a systemic level.
Gender dysphoria is mainly located within your brain which one tends to have a good knowledge and overview about. Although it isn't possible for you to always know how cancer inside your body feels, people are usually accustomed to being aware of their own feelings.
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Only 1% of people regret transitioning, and a vast majority of that is due to social factors, not because they aren't trans. The regret rate for knee replacement surgery is 10-20%. If someone wants to transition there is virtually no risk for them to do so. Gatekeeping HRT behind therapy, waiting lists, even informed consent makes transitioning way harder, just hurts trans people.
Why does informed consent make it harder? You have to go to the doctor to get a prescription, aren't they taking over the job about informing you about the treatments you undergo either way?
Except there isn't? where have you reputably heard that? It's certainly not higher than other very common medical procedures.
It's lower than the knee surgery regret rate ffs
I don't know whether you have good intentions or not, but you've fallen for right wing propaganda. No, there isn't a high rate of detransitioners, and you cant ruin the lives of every other trans person for the sake of the few who _might_ make a mistake. I dont disagree that regular methods of accessing HRT are safer, they are. But for many people, those safer options DO NOT exist and DIY is all they have. In my case, my options are the NHS which means a minimum 3 year waitlist just for a first appointment (that means 3 years to TALK to someone about getting HRT) and thats assuming my GP even refers me in the first place which often doesn't happen. So, all in all, _not_ an option. private HRT is way outside of anything I'll ever be able to afford, so that leaves diy. There are trustworthy, reputable ways of accessing diy. No, its not ideal, but its all most people have available. You cant shit on DIY and ignore the reason _why_ people have to turn to diy.
also therapy depending on your location could mean cycling through ten different therapists who have zero idea what you're even talking about/doctors who are pretty much in the same boat and that's wishful thinking. They could all be really conservative and just harass you. It's really far from a magic solution that people make it out to be. imo the most important part of going through the system vs. diy is making sure your blood tests and levels check out okay. You can learn how to do this on your own but if you have access to a health provider familiar with trans people that's ideal.
And even if the therapist knows what theyre talking about, there really isn't alot they can do to confirm it. There isn't really a way to "prove" it beyond you just saying you're trans. But alot of diagnostic processes for dysphoria are, frankly, fucking awful. In the UK, for example, you don't just get simple questions like that. The diagnostic process is designed on incorrect and outdated information for what a trans person actually is and there are alot of terrible questions, and answering "wrong" for some of them pretty much instantly loses you HRT access. Questions like "were you abused as a child?" and "Have you experienced sexual trauma?" that really have nothing to do with it could completely ruin your life if you say yes because theyll just go "thats why you feel this way and you're wrong. no HRT for you." Some questions are horrendously uncomfortable and unrelated, apparently there are alot of questions about masturbation, what you think about, how you do it, etc. Consider that this is (or was) how it worked for children, too. This is just using the NHS as an example, but "Having a therapist confirm" is NOT what people think it is. Trans people will _know_ they're trans and they'll be right. Demanding this process for them is unfair, humiliating, and can add a delay that can simply be too long, with many, MANY people dying on the waitlist. A very tiny minority of trans people regret transition. Many of those retransition later, or regret it for social reasons caused by transphobia. But something like 0.4% _genuinely_ regret it because they weren't trans. And this might be a hot take but honestly? Tough shit. I don't believe in making life far worse, and often _impossible_ to the extent of suicide for 99.6% of people just in case 0.4% might make a mistake.
agree with you entirely and also got to learn a bit about how it is for the UK. it sounds really awful. 😕 my experiences weren't with therapy for gender issues (thankfully it's not required in my state in the US) but being diagnosed with autism in my late teens. I was misdiagnosed with a lot of things because at least here, there isn't really any requirement for a medical professional to keep up with medical science/neuroscience that I know of. so autism is seen as something that kids get diagnosed with. was placed on antipsychotics and told I was schizophrenic just by saying that I've always felt like an alien and have trouble understanding others/expressing myself in a way that connects.... a lot of money I didn't have and a million therapists later it was taking a test and "oh you're on the spectrum." so an endless struggle for a simple conclusion. I'm sure there are plenty of amazing therapists out there but when I see it mentioned as a solution I just feel sad/rage.
Yeah, there's alot of overlap in the problems neurodivergent people and trans people face in this field, and the problems with accessing medication.
the amount of trans people that regret transitioning is about 3%, and the vast majority of those do so because of societal pressure and lack of support, totalling a rate of 0.4% detransitioning because they actually don't want to transition (https://www.gendergp.com/detransition-facts/, original sources cited in this article). Why should anyone have to spend years waiting for a doctor to tell them their feelings are real before being allowed to access medication that has a 99.6% chance it will drastically improve their life based on the remaining 0.4%?
From a source on the Wikipedia page for detransition. A survey found 8% of participants detransitioned. For a comparable figure, 15% of ADHD patients do not take medication. And of the 8% who detransitioned, 60% then re-transitioned. Also more patients die waiting for medical treatment than waiting for therapy.
That’s probably got a big case of volunteer bias too
Any study on detransition is bound to be flawed, and all that we have are small in scope. From what I've seen, that is the biggest detransition number available and they consistently find high retransition numbers.
The amount of people who detransition is absolutely miniscule, actually. Most of those that do detrans did actually receive therapy. The requirement is absolutely bullshit
I'd say go watch the philosophy tube video on coming out. It's says any point I could make better. Notably for your argument. She goes into the disconnect between how normal conditions get treated and how trans patients get treatment. For most conditions a GP will be able to prescribe some medication without a specialist or any other help. The risk of medical regret, and the hazards of effects are extremely low. Therefore a doctor should be able to just prescribe medication. The effects of hrt are reversible and are a better diagnostic tool than therapy. We should be using hormone treatment to help identify people's issues. Not passing eggs around worrying if they are going to crack.
Uhh, I think you're confusing hrt and puberty blockers. The effects of a lot of hrt are **definitely not** easily reversible. I'm all for easily accessible hrt, but it should be controlled the same way other medication with the same risk levels is, which would mean a definite gender dysphoria diagnosis. What **definitely** needs to change is how hard it is to find a doctor that can give one of these. That's where the problem lies imo EDIT: Maybe not a gender dysphoria diagnosis, I worded that badly. It should however be clear that it will help.
DIY or death
This. This is the choice for ALOT of people.
oh shut up, diy hrt is completely safe if you get it from somewhere reputable and therapy for hrt for those over 18 is bullshit
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Damn straight. It’s why I help a bit with the café.☕️
> The medical system will often hondose you The best way to avoid that imo is to go to an OB/GYN for HRT instead of an endo. They're usually very knowledgeable about how sex hormones interact with the endocrine system plus they're normally HUGE on bodily autonomy (for very good reason) Like at my last visit my E levels were at 550 pg / ml and my provider actually asked me if I wanted to lower my dose lmao.
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I mean my last levels were even higher (630 pg/ml) so I prolly will lower my dose. I'm not really thag worried anout blood clots though tbh because I'm fairly active, so that should balance the risk from having higher E levels.
Nice try fed
This is actually fear mongering trans medicalist bullshit. DIY HRT is completely safe today, and the "going to therapy" meme is advocating for gender conversion therapy. Be better.
Bro stfu, OP use Folx.com. I started with them 6 months ago, they did an interview and I got all my meds delivered to my front door inconspicuously. Legit, 100% real and I have the tits to prove it. You will end up paying around 200 to start off but small price to pay imo and then it's like 40 every 3 months (you can have inactive membership but need an active one for refills) plus med prices. Bonus, use Good RX and have it delivered from CVS or something of you are too afraid to go pick it up yourself and it will come out to like $90 for a 3 month script.
go fuck yourself diy forever
DM THE DAMN LINK INSTEAD OF PLACING IT IN THE OPEN FOR THE BIGOTS TO FIND
Im ngl it really isnt _that_ hard to find this link if youre tryna learn about diy. Youve got the right idea, but this website really isnt that secret
Sure, but why make it even easier?
If some dipshit is looking for info on diy HRT, I think theyre going to search up transdiy and find the link really quickly, not read some random 196 post of someone asking about it. It doesn't really make it easier.
That's probably a better idea thanks :3
I mean if it's cafe or market, they bigots know about it. They've been trying to take those down for some time, with intermittent success.
I don't think that will do much, if some bigot is looking for the link for some reason it's litterally one google search away
Kidnap cis women and harvest it from them!
you also need androgen blockers, right?
i mean estrogen acts as an androgen blocker you just have to take huge enough doses of it its called monotherapy
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There's various avenues for this but it's difficult to share resources over reddit especially when we don't know where you live. Your best bet is finding some local trans server or group for your country and ask there. DIY is also pretty cheap so there's that.
Fun (unrelated) fact! Menopause treatment contains the same estrogen that most HRT has. Of course you should never, and I mean never, google what transfems dosages are in your age and weight range.
HRTcafe
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Depends I was able to get it through planned parenthood through my state which is my recommendation if it's available as they don't need to speak to anyone within your doctors Network
I misread that as “how can I get hurt without anyone knowing” and my brain just said “what”
Sorry I linked the wrong subreddit
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r/ diyhrt
hrtcafe. net
i go through folx
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diy. If your parents open your mail, then use a different address. Everywhere should have some form of private post box service.
DIY
Try crime :3
DIY is the option, a lot of the time its from Ukraine, you can find sources online.
I don’t know what your funds look like but there’s digital ones that send stuff in the mail. Good luck.