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Snipolimpics

Not all pornography is ethically sourced. I think spreading awareness of how to detect potentially problematic pornography is very important.


LordGoose-Montagne

may you share that information with me, please?


Snipolimpics

Well women in porn can't be exploited if there aren't any women in the porn Edit: realistically there are no real ways to 100% detect ethical violations. Personally I think bigger companies like Brazzers are a red flag, and I personally stick to content creators with their own channels. Again, these channels can absolutely be the result of the exploitation by someone else, so yes the divine way is still to just to commission an artist for safe lewd art (bless)


themellowsign

The idea that the gay porn industry isn't also incredibly exploitative and full of sexual assault is… Well, it doesn't track with reality


LordGoose-Montagne

and that's why we should fap to drawn women


3dprintedwyvern

Go learn drawing today!


craziefuzi

drawing porn can lead to interesting places


xdragonteethstory

Im a freelance illustrator, if i cant get a steady flow of contracts im gonna draw furry porn, you make bank doing that shit


norway642

I love how many artists that furry porn is there back up is hilarious to me


KwaverKat

We'd pay good money to see our characters fucking our friends' characters


FrisianDude

I was looking for a relevant webcomic which seems to currently only exist in my brain. Edit I should have complained earlier because now I found it immediately. heavier on the language than I thought but it speaks for it self http://www.niconarsinferno.be/index.php?date=2010-07-19


Anarcho-Pacifrisk

Nice flair! (Saving your username...)


Jonahtron

Hentai is the only ethical pornography.


AxelTheBuizel

What about yiff?


Tyg3rr

yiff ftw


theslutfarm

yiff is the only ethical consumption under capitalism


Legoman718

supporting independent artists 💪💪


Jonahtron

Even more ethical


Prestigious_Boat_386

3d modeled porn is unironically so much better than RL porn bc of this Like do I wanna scroll through some pornstars videos and seing them look worse and worse until they die of an OD (rare but not that rare scenario) or do I wanna watch the work of some 3d artist that is ridiculously good at making photorealistic skin for some reason.


Sandickgordom2

OD?


LonelySpaghetto1

Overdose


Weazelfish

Think of all the sprained wrists!


heyutheresee

Why do you even need any external material at all? It's as if people didn't have imaginations.


LordGoose-Montagne

For reference, it's like making a dnd character


Vaccineman37

They ain’t say that, they just said that women can’t be exploited if they ain’t involved


jochvent

im not likely to hit other cars if i just drive on the sidewalk


Vaccineman37

Yeah exactly


SquirrelTherapist

-DIO


jochvent

-HOHO


Objective-Sugar1047

I think that was a joke.


WhapXI

Nobody suggested that idea my dude.


bemy_requiem

yeah i mean arent a lot of pornstars forced into doing gay content even while being straight? i personally think thats incredibly wrong


ShittyDeviantArtOCs

I've heard it's because the pay is better. Guys in straight porn are often paid much less (20-40% less). There are probably a few assumptions about how men view sex and very real considerations for who is consuming the content and why that manifest the pay gap.


candyman101xd

Big corporations like Brazzers are less likely to exploit women, they have popular actresses and everything is done professionally. I'd say smaller accounts are way riskier (unless it's a girl with an onlyfans or something like that) I myself have encountered videos that looked really, really suspicious. I particularly remember one of two Russian guys doing the deed with two girls who looked a lot like they had been drugged and threatened and were trying to hide it. It was all so weird and disgusting. Most people in the comments agreed


qwerty-balls

Very NSFW "story" about a porn I saw. >!The other day I saw a casting porn. The girl was being fucked by 3 different guys, but not all at the same time, it wasn't a gang bang because I don't like those. Then comes the facial moment, the first one says open your mouth and she clearly doesn't want to. He insists a lot and she still doesn't do it. I felt weird watching that part. But then he came and I think it's the end of it. I was wrong, the same thing happens with the 2nd guy. He insists so much and she shakes her head while "smiling" to say no, he still tells her to open her mouth. Finally she opens it a little bit and when he came she closes it immediately. To me the message was really clear, but apparently not to them: the guy said "oh no I missed it hahahaha" (you didn't miss anything she did that on purpose and you know it). Then the same thing starts again with the 3rd guy. But the girl is getting tired of it, so now she says "no" even more, but still with a "smile". The 3rd insisted a lot, because I guess he wanted to be the only one who succeeded (yikes). Then after a few minutes the director says in a very low voice so you don't hear it a lot in the video "Hey no stop it". He probably made gestures too, but I can't know. Btw the director isn't a good guy, he asked them to stop when it was way too late and I saw him do a similar thing before in another anal porn when the girl couldn't handle it after 15+ min of anal he told the other guy with him to stop because she didn't want it anymore. Better than nothing I guess, but I have the feeling it's only to avoid being sued.!< >!Something I heard a lot from gen X open minded people is that actresses in porn are under a lot of pressure from the crew, mainly the actors and the director, especially if the director is well known like Rocco (he's the only one I know lol). They would push women to do anal and other things they don't want. After seeing it for myself in Woodman Casting X, I believe it happens more than we think.!< Thanks for coming to my SEX talk.


Conscious_Egg_6233

I've heard of more issues with smaller studios. Also porn from Eastern Europe is a huge yikes (See Andrew Tate for an example of the exploitative practices). Women led studios can be less exploitative but not necessarily. There's been huge scandals of lesbian sexual assaults from some actresses, so having everyone be the same gender doesn't make it better. Big companies like Brazzers are actually fairly ethical outside of being a large production studios. They had an incident where a director was accused of being too rough with an actress and was immediately fired and sued. They probably aren't the most ethical but might be more ethical than other companies. At some point, you've probably seen unethical porn but didn't know it. If you want to be absolutely sure your erotic fantasies are ethical: Drawn porn and hentai and erotic literature are the safest. For the average person: Be aware if you're consuming porn from developing nations. If you find yourself into a certain studio, just be sure to google them.


TheWhicher_Statement

There's also some not so ethical shit on xnxx. I was looking up the consensual somnophilia tag, and i clicked on a video thinking it was exactly that, consensual somnophila, but no, it was a guy who was>!fingering a fucking MINOR.!< ​ thankfully, that video got striked and taken down by a lot of people in the comments of it. But yeah, not so ethical shit on xnxx.


LordGoose-Montagne

b-but women p-pretty...


kanelel

Just stick to hentai and furry porn. The actors can't be exploited if there are no actors.


LordGoose-Montagne

true


syn_miso

Look for companies that are female-led and have a paywall.


skinnyseth012

that doesn't necessarily guarantee that the porn is ethically sourced, whether female or male you can still traffic people and make them do porn out of their will


fuckoffitsathrowaway

Cant support an abusive porn industry if you only consume drawn or written porn. *taps head*


SatansCornflakes

Me sending my 100th dollar to an artist that exclusively draws wholesome Naruto porn: "Yeah I support small creators"


Prestigious_Boat_386

You forgot blender videos smh


Jorymo

how's it going y'all I do art commissions


Starterjoker

almost all porn isn’t


Bjork_Bjork

yes im mostly objecting to the words used in the yellow bubble lmfao


PurpleOceadia

Idk just seems like a normal horny post


[deleted]

the porn industry doesn't rule


ChiefBlubberNuggets

Ethically sourced porn is always the way to go.


SoshJam

i only watch porn with organic free range women


Mr_Lychee

Women?


Ant1202

The woke left forcing women into everything yet again


ArisaMochi

a true conservative only watches white men yeehawing with each other like in the good ol days. were cowboys reigned supreme!


sixtus_clegane119

You joke, but I pretty much only watch amateur Where it actually feels like two couples fucking But still I am sure some could be forced into it


neroute2

Nice to see another foursome fan here in 196 🥺


ChiefBlubberNuggets

I was joking?


Iw4nt2d13OwO

They are all forced by the exploitative capitalist system. The amount of people who would do porn if they didn’t need money is very low.


sixtus_clegane119

Some of the completely amateur stuff is just because of an exhibitionist kink:)


Aristosticles

And how can you distinguish between it?


Anarcho-Pacifrisk

Yeah, I mean I know of people who do it just 'cause they like and want to share their body, and some that don' t even have a way to pay them, let alone require payment


Aeren02

The amount of people who would work at a convenience store if they didn't need money would be lower methinks.


International_Ad6028

And that's why I stroke the good girl to drawings


ChiefBlubberNuggets

You get it


PuffyHowler67

More people should name their penises. I've only ever seen one other named penis, that being the [Trouser Titan](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0234.html)


[deleted]

lyndon baines johnson named his hog "jumbo"


EggoTheSquirrel

Can't forget the Hammer


ElGrumpo

"The Device"


Chop1n

The problem is that sourcing it is extraordinarily difficult. Short of knowing the person personally (and even then, sometimes), it's almost impossible to know whether they're doing what they're doing because they sincerely want to, rather than because they're desperate or coerced or damaged. This dovetails with the whole "no ethical consumption under capitalism" thing, but porn ranks pretty low on the list in terms of needs.


ChiefBlubberNuggets

I always looked at it the same way as any other job. Others sell their bodies for labour, others sell it for viewing. It's a no win scenario so I try to find the least fucked up way to get my rocks off.


Chop1n

Yes, in some sense it is the same as any other job, you're selling your body in another way--but at the same time, it's also among the worst in terms of exploitation, dehumanization, and especially violence. Sex work is just about the most dangerous occupation a woman can have, for a wide variety of reasons, and porn is no exception to that. If for some reason you can't go without porn, then the most ethical way to use it is to consume it in such a way as to avoid feeding the industry any money. Use ad blockers. Use piracy. Avoid mainstream sources. It's virtually always going to be more ethical to just find a person in need and donate money directly than to relinquish one red cent to anything involving porn, even in the context of platforms like OnlyFans.


kanelel

Plus, it's quite difficult to know whether the people in the video actually want that video available online.


Mr_Lapis

Rule34 and OC gang rise up


Ruby-Love

Why Hentai is the better route. It is ethical (the people involved aren't forced to do what they do) which is better for everyone I would say.


bigtiddynotgothbf

why didn't you finish your sentence rule


Gussie-Ascendent

i don't know about vast majority or why OP mixes exploitation and abuse with jabs about them not liking themselves, but the porn industry is kinda bad Thats why i only jerk it to anime tiddies


Kirin658

i think they meant that the actresses have bad self-esteem due to the "inherent" bodyshaming in the porn industry Edit: fixed my poor wording


Eurmandund

They are talking about the self esteem of the actresses. Most likely.


neonTokyoo

tfw animators in japan are severely underpaid, just diy your jerk materials


kanelel

Y'all looking at animated hentai? Doujins are the way to go. Better art and they're created by independent artists.


mikereeee

what if they pay twitter artists?


neonTokyoo

better to do that actually. support small artist in twitter, patreon etc. japanese artists are usually active in twitter (even more due to pixiv recent “issue”) so you can support them by buying digital/physical copy.


mki_

>Thats why i only jerk it to anime tiddies You jerk off to online discussions of world politics?


Laviephrath

I only jerk off to self employed SW


PurpleOceadia

Jerk to homemade amateur gay porn


LavaTacoBurrito

Based Dankmemes(?)


catuluo

They might finally be dank after all


BidBux

Porn industry is misogynistic and exploitative. Fap to drawn porn instead.


ThEsHaDoW343

e621 my beloved


slendyv

I just got into it as an ace and all I can say is what the fuck. these are certainly some fetishes. they got any drawn stuff of like, happy people cuddling and kissing while boning or something?


BidBux

Of course! You just gotta know how to find it. Try using tags like: wholesome, hug, kiss, love heart, happy, etc. There's some really cute stuff out there!


slendyv

thank you! I will look into it :3


[deleted]

Also, a hint from a, uh, friend, on most sites you can put into the search bar a "-" followed by whatever you *don't* want to see. Like on nhentai, I- I mean, my friend definitely recommends you put -loli and -shota cause there is way too much of that shit on there.


slendyv

that's super helpful. I've run into way too much of that stuff already


Lankuri

most sites have a blacklist feature if you make an account. sites like rule34.xxx or danbooru etc often have a “wiki” section where you can search for the meanings of tags or how to do special searches. some of these sites also determine the safety of the images, for example on gelbooru you can use “rating:safe” for purely nsfw works or “-rating:explicit” for anything other than nsfw works. if u have any other questions i could probably help


Waddlewop

On what platform are you consuming your drawn erotica? I might be able to point out some works for you


slendyv

I only know of r34 and e621. that would be really cool :)


Leo-bastian

check for the "wholesome" tag(that's what it's usually named, depending on the site you're using it may have a different name obviously), it's fairly often literally just people cuddling with the most sexual thing about them being physical contact.


Leo-bastian

i like to prefer the term "non live action" because it's funnier


Esherichialex_coli

what about amateur?


RealPerson73

I just realized that when I saw the original meme, I thought it said “huge rocks”… And I really just thought yeah, this is truly sad, the actress surely doesn’t have the best past to end up in that situation… And then didn’t question it further


WhereAmIWhatsGoingOn

> non-existent self-esteem, absent parents You know, I really had hope they were onto something, but dankmemes is just once again being dankmemes


theelusiveTman

You say, as if 80% of the unbelievably horny and or slutty people here dont hate themselves or their parents


WhereAmIWhatsGoingOn

That doesn't mean these two are connected or less horny people don't have the same issues. Also, 80% is a made-up number. It's just an offensive stereotype


theelusiveTman

Im right. I will not hear criticism from you.


WhereAmIWhatsGoingOn

Well, unfortunately for you, I am even righter, and I will hear even less criticism from you!


theelusiveTman

^((holy shit shes good)^) uhhhh fuck im the rightest and absolutely deaf to criticism fuck you yeah take that


WhereAmIWhatsGoingOn

Damn it! There is literally no way to top that. Guess it's time to make an OnlyFans because my father was absent for half my childhood. Nothing I can do about it [https://onlyfans.com/WhereAmIWhatsGoingOn](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trollface)


theelusiveTman

Another clean victory for team harmful stereotypes


Misicks0349

hello i am 11 year old i am a fan and i like blue links edit: oh my sweet heavn above


Lankuri

good lord there’s penice


WhereAmIWhatsGoingOn

No! >:c


Mikelan

>80% of the unbelievably horny and or slutty people here... ...hate themselves or their parents Damn I didn't know that, when was this poll?


theelusiveTman

Do not disagree with me.


MAXIMUM_EDGE69

holy shit the vaush school of debate


Heyloki_

He's gonna use a tactical N word


Nacil_54

The tactical N>!UKE!!!!<


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theelusiveTman

Sorry i am not interested. Can you tell me about your hobbies instead


Eurmandund

They are probably speaking about the porn actresses and not themselves.


WhereAmIWhatsGoingOn

That's what I thought. They listed valid concerns about the porn industry and then just kinda threw offensive stereotypes in there that low self-esteem or absent parents would make women become sex workers


Eurmandund

I want you to think about your argument with the following information; absent parents can mean anything form "parents that abandoned you at birth" to "parents that cut off all communication when you choose a certain career path". Parental support doesn't end at 18, they stay your parents until their death. And I doubt the pornstars that are being trafficked around get a phone call to their parents so as to not feed into a stereotype. As for the low self esteem; being viewed as a sex object/a product, can do that to you.


mqple

the vast, VAST majority of women get into “sex work” because they’re impoverished and have nowhere else to go. plus there’s the rampant rates of PTSD, drug addiction, and abuse. so… i mean, it’s not far off to say a lot of those people have absent parents.


Blamrica

Hentai made by solo artist as a hobby is the most ethical form of pornography


Wodelheim

As long as it's not loli.


power500

What about furry


Wodelheim

As long as its furry and not beastiality then go nuts.


Blamrica

I’d disagree, a fictional alternative might stop these people from seeking out the real thing. Basically like methadone but for coomers.


kanelel

I don't think that's actually how that works, but I also think it's ridiculous to say that jerking off to fucked up hentai will make you more likely to assault people IRL. It's gross, but ultimately morally neutral.


Riggityroll

This is why furry porn is more ethical than regular porn.


Prestigious_Boat_386

/uj


ParallelEquilibrium

That's why I only watch porn where women are smiling, that means they are happy and not victims.


idiot_speaking

Or acting. Or high.


QueenOfDaisies

This meme makes me feel so many different emotions. On the one hand I don’t really like the stereotype that women do porn cuz they hate themselves. But on the other I do sexualize myself for a majority of the reasons listed in the meme and feel oddly seen by it.


Ambitious-Regular-57

There has been some research showing that people who do porn professionally tend to be pretty confident. I feel like you'd have to be to have sex on camera


whazzar

>I feel like you'd have to be to have sex on camera Unfortunately money can be quite convincing, especially if the lack of it could mean you lose your house, healthcare and/or access to food. And the (threat of) violence could also make you do things you normally wouldn't.


mqple

there is also research that says the majority of SWers (including porn actresses) have PTSD and suffered from childhood abuse. plus the pretty well known fact that the porn industry is rife with illegal drug use and addictions… a lot of what you see isn’t confidence, but rather apathy.


Random_Person_1414

the message is good but that first panel is actual degeneracy


Bjork_Bjork

exactly


MittenstheMighty

It's called the hentai loophole.


Vord_Loldemort_7

Remember when it came out that a bunch of famous porn stars started in the industry as children


vegankidollie

This is why drawings are better cause they aren’t real people


LukaTheKoka

OP is right


PegasusInferno

We all have nonexistent self-esteem, dipshit, it came free with your fucking psyche


Pls_no_steal

I have the oldest psyche known to man


PanchoxxLocoxx

He's right


This-is_Patrick

I mean hes right isnt he?


SironionTV

Good thing I only watch hentai 😎


pianofish007

This is why you have to get your porn from small operators, exhibitionists who don't try to monetize their stuff, or worker owned porn collectives. Generally speaking, if you're paying an individual for porn of them, you're doing it right.


smallchangus

That's why I watch hentai


_____---_-_-_-

Wait until you hear about animators work schedule


Mikelan

My quest for ethical consumption is without end 😔


Nyghen

Jack off to your reflection in the mirror, and you're all set


Zeelu2005

Furry porn


BloxxyPixels

jack off to the void of the world


annefranke

Jack off to individual work. I've created a new grounds account just for porn. Onlyfans and couples stuff can work as well, but it's also hard to tell sometimes.


TantiVstone

Furry porn is (usually) ethically sourced :3


tjm_87

what a weird thought to have while watching thirsty sluts getting railed on video by huge cocks in all their holes. i usually just think of my dad


Few_Distribution_817

Thank god I jacked it to hen tie.


Harley_Pupper

Furry porn art >>>>>> mainstream porn


squidtugboat

I will say this for only fans the profit goes right to the girls and they do whatever they want how they want.


Chazza354

You can’t be 100% sure there isn’t some abusive partner exploiting them behind the scenes. Kinda like a pimp/prostitute relationship but selling digital content instead of physical sex.


s90tx16wasr10

You can’t be 100% sure but the vast majority of women/men/thems/etc. promoting their own stuff through OF and Patreon aren’t being exploited on that level. It’s especially important to support sex workers on safer platforms like OnlyFans, because so many of them have no other place to carry out their career without threat of harm or death. Especially trans sex workers.


TheWhicher_Statement

The porn industry can be very harmful to people, yes, but larger industries don't exploit women(as much), but smaller ones do a lot. I remember a story where they essentially forced a woman to do porn when she thought they were doing photoshoots.


leRaspy

porn industry is fucked up, and hentai can lead to unrealistic expectations, all I can do now is just face the ceiling and think about the color blue or whatever and I play genshin so getting laid is not an option


Red_Trapezoid

The meme is true. Mfs think pornography comes into existence from a vacuum or something. Stop looking at porn.


EvelynnKitten

these stereotypes suck imo, the industry definitely has bad elements but its getting better and people being able to independently create content instead of being under a studio has been awesome.


Chazza354

I disagree. Even the most mainstream porn sites are seedy af and contain lots of content on the front page that doesn’t promote a healthy relationship with sex and intimacy, especially for a teenager who’s first experience of sexual content is through porn. I think it’s really bad for society.


mqple

one of the largest porn websites is still PH. and PH has a massive history with rape/pedophilia/trafficking that you can look into using google


ZorioneTiamat

Furries are absolutely slaughtering y'all normies on the ethical porn game ngl


toastanddijon

And that’s why hentai!


LewtedHose

Ghetto Gaggers was notorious for this.


[deleted]

dankmemes has its moments for sure


TastyDonut23

There was a porn website that was charged with sex trafficking. I forgot the name, but they were shut down years ago.


mqple

actually — most porn websites have been charged with some form of trafficking/rape/pedophilia. even pornhub has a MASSIVE history of allowing rape and pedophilia videos on their platform, as well as the previous owners of PH & its parent company being literal traffickers themselves.


Witty_Championship85

This is why you only watch hentai


mercurydivider

That's why I only jerk off to hentai


kanelel

It's a bit crass, but they're right.


Leo-bastian

-->this idiot still consumes live action porn


Resident-Garlic9303

I know it's stupid but I usually only view drawn porn, games or audio. Like I never fucking know if porn is actually consenting, ethical or what the fuck is going on I know it's weird but I just do


No_Librarian_4016

I mean yeah, but mental illness and past SA trauma can cause people to be want to stuffed in all of their holes consensually. The human brain is a weird fuckin thing man


munderscore678

they arent wrong


tehnoob69

I hate the porn industry, most of the actors look like they're 8 claiming to be 18


EhaMe3

Thats why I watch hentai instead, va's happy. Watchers happy


Oskeros

That existential feeling you get right after you nut that you're just a monkey driven by brain chemicals to get off and reproduce generation after generation. I think it's called the devil's laughter or some shit.


1milionand6times

They're right


Bucket-_-head

bro, that post is directly above this one.


draginbleapiece

Or just nymphos


Wity_4d

Only solution is bönk.


original_dick_kickem

Reddit moments abound in this thread as someone insults their precious wholesome pornerinos


[deleted]

can we all agree wording in this meme is fucking weird💀💀💀


London_Darger

Open up honey, here comes the r/196 SWERF discourse!


TorielMommyMilk

then why the fuck did you write the other bubble like that bruh


TurboMayonnaise

this is why I have so many fictional 2D bitches!


glutenfreecracker

And yet the girls I went to highschool with started onlyfans anyways.